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#WeAreCorbyn I am proud to stand in absolute solidarity with my comrade and friend, Jeremy Corbyn, who has stood with me and so many others for decades in campaigns for peace, justice and against all forms of oppression and discrimination.
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https://twitter.com/CazDac/status/1025115574156906496
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1025128424090812417
But they won't
But honestly, I'm all Corbyn'd out, and Brexited out, for the summer.
Labour would no longer be the opposition.
Corbyn can be leader of anti-Semitic Labour for as long as he likes...
In a way this story cropping up every few months seems to give his critics the chance to demonstrate, to themselves, that they still are upholding the good name of the party and are taking him to task, and then they can go back to backing him again. (That might be analogous in tactics though not content to the Hard Brexiteers in the Tories, though it remains to be seen if that is the case or not; they might actually follow through)
https://twitter.com/55krissi55/status/1025135662855532544
Here is someone reporting with satisfaction that the consensus in his local is that the Jews control the media. How does this differ from what Berlin in the early 30s must have been like?
Edit - only sort of worked. Tweet from a thread linked to from here yesterday.
In all seriousness, it is scary as hell. No matter what happens, nothing can dent their belief in
TrumpCorbyn.Any party facing these issues should not be able to get away with it just because internal and external opponents will, of course, try to make even more of it. For Corbyn, I truly no longer know if he actually believes there is an issue, because those who defend him the loudest are the ones who insist there is not, and use things like #WeAreCorbyn to act like he is some kind of messiah (cue Life of Brian jokes).
Sean Fear's pub thread was much better
That it could, or should, be easier with someone else won't really make much impression when it appears he;s in with a shout despite all this.
The Trump like nature of Corbyn's following is a fair comparison though I have to say. With May so disliked I don't know if, at present, there is such an equivalent on the other side, as whatever the following of BoJo and JRM or Farage, they are not leaders yet.
Those that claim well I just know anymore all this antisemitism stuff means I can't criticize Israel is the same. If you go around retweeting / posting on Facebook stuff about secret Jewish bankers running the world or comparing Israel to Nazi run Germany it is totally different kettle of fish to stating that Israel's response to stone throwing youths is often overly aggressive.
After the election may be a different matter
In fact only 4 post War Labour leaders have got a higher voteshare at a general election than Corbyn did in 2017, Attlee, Gaitskill, Wilson and Blair and 3 out of 4 became PM
A joke surely?
https://twitter.com/DerbyChrisW/status/1025134193637027840
Tell me the difference between the JC cult and Trump's mad supporters?
Post Chequers Deal the Tories are now back to 2010 and 2015 levels at about 36/37% and UKIP are up to 5 to 8%. So if Corbyn holds that 40% he could win most seats and become PM without winning a single 2017 Tory voter over to Labour if 2017 Tory voters who have defected to UKIP do not return
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/273932/Here-s-a-toast-to-toast-our-favourite-breakfast
(Granted, the story is from 2011)
May is Corbyn's greatest boon - she's alienating her base.
Also I'm pretty sure polling showed that the majority of members do think there is a problem but it has been weaponised. I suspect that some of those who say there isn't a problem either think that it is a very small percentage or not increased from previously, which would both be accurate.
From the BBC to others, there are usually complaints on here that the latest left wing smear isn't being given enough attention.
Also I don't think it's exactly contentious to point out the right wing lean of our press, their power is dying though so it isn't exactly the issue it used to be.
I don't really feel the pull of tribalism, for better and for worse (for there is a good reason we have political tribes to offer semi coherent visions for our country), but I understand and respect it. #WeAreTheLeader stuff goes well beyond such tribalism, focusing on a particular person, and when manifested in a very Trump like fashion one can say it is effective, but I would argue it is still a bad thing.
Indeed some of the biggest swings were in Shire England. Vote share for Labour went up 20% in both Harborough and Huntington.
They'll still do it.
To most people, FAKE NEWS means making stuff up and lies.
Yeh, newspapers have agendas and prioritise one quote over another. That is not lying or making stuff up.
Honestly, the day we give up on the free press is the day we might as well put ourselves in a time machine and set the dial to Germany 1930s.
I can see the argument but for the left, so not just Labour, to have an option has involved rallying around Corbyn. Given that he has been attacked quite harshly by the majority of the press and those in his own party as well as the opposition culminating in the 2016 leadership contest. Corbyn is in some ways a representative of left wing views as much as an individual, which might still be a bad thing in some ways but it has positives as well.
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1025119706498387968
can she provide an actual instance?
and no the editorial comment pages dont count because they are 'comment' and not actual reporting...
Right wing newspapers spin as much as lefty journalists do, anyone with half a brain can spin a good story without lying. It was one of the reasons I was somewhat disappointed in Ben Bradley around the time of the Czech spy saga. I expect obvious lies to be pushed but I also expect my opponents to be intelligent enough to push them without actually lying themselves, just plant the seed and let others make the assumption.
Unfortunately Ben seems to be someone who believes what he reads rather than pushes the story for political benefit. Which is easier to beat but a worry when it comes to him actually governing in any way...
I'm not calling for an end to the free press, my happiness is based on the balancing of the political scales that have been weighed down by our right wing newspapers.
"The most important thing to know about the row engulfing the Labour Party is that it doesn’t matter. I take no particular joy in writing that; it ought to be disqualifying that a political party is incapable of taking decisive action to root out racists from its ranks.
"It’s just that even a cursory glance at the history of democratic politics will tell you that majorities seldom, if ever, vote in the interests of minorities."
Exactly. The vast bulk of the electorate votes in line with three impulses:
1. Laziness - most voters are robots whose sum total interest in governance consists of making an X with a stubby pencil twice per decade, and will pick the same party at every general election, out of habit and so as to avoid the necessity to think
2. Greed - most of the others will back a side based on a calculation of who will give them the most money. If more people are interested in stoking house price inflation than putting up the value of benefits then they will favour Tory over Labour, and vice versa
3. Boredom - most of the remaining voters not deciding in line with criteria 1 or 2 will swap sides every two or three elections because they want a change; whether this change is for the better or worse is not an issue that particularly troubles them
The proportion of the populace that thinks about the issues seriously and takes the time to make complex value judgements, or that backs one side over the others out of genuine ideological conviction, is probably no more than 5%. Or am I being too cynical?
If I'm not then, if Corbyn can simply hold on for long enough (and who's going to dislodge him?), he'll become Prime Minister - but the same logic would apply to anybody. The British electorate would happily put Satan into 10 Downing Street if he gained control of one of the two major parties and was permitted sufficient time to wait for circumstances to move in his favour.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-45053412
Whilst it is certainly the case that running a pub is very hard work I have seen many success stories of licensees working with Pubcos and making money for both parties. Whilst the beer tie may sound unfair on the face of it, the business model is much more akin to a franchise than the freehold market. A Pubco makes money from both rent and tied alcohol sales, therefore it is in the interest of the Pubco that the business is a success as it receives more income. All costs are available and shared prior to the signing of an agreement by the publican including administrative costs common to commercial leases.
The valuation of pub businesses is undertaken by the RICS in guidelines that they set. The large decline in the values of leases has come about from the introduction of the Pubs Code as pub companies have tried to avoid the risks associated with new publicans rights. These rights mean that investment into pubs that previously could be undertaken and secured with a long lease, is now more risky and Pubcos have looked to managed house (running the pubs with managers) as a less risky option.
Over the years I have seen financial support given to lots of publicans, but at the end of the day running a small business is risky. The company I work for tries hard to avoid business failures as it costs us significant amount of money, time and effort for every failure. They can happen for lots of reasons such a change in personal circumstance (illness, marital breakdown), fraud as well as poor business operation. In most of these instances organisations such as CAMRA will blame the Pubco and we have to respect confidentiality and not respond. We also invest significantly to reopen pubs and CAMRA will often fail to acknowledge this
So in summary I think the company I work for is ethical and does its best to support its own interests by supporting pub businesses to make the most money possible through the tie.
Pubs do matter as they are often have key social functions in the community, and they also collect vast sums of taxation. A large part of every pint you drink in a pub will be sent to the taxman for beer duty and VAT. Support your local pub whether it is tied or not.
Lastly the government has already introduced a statutory code to govern the practices of the industry. It would be a good idea to see if that works.
Say for example the Daily Shit decided to run a front-page story that rottenborough wore red with green every day, never phoned his mother, and stuck Meissen figurines up your bottom. And then it decided to do this every day for a year. Sooner or later your life would be a living hell of people calling you a mother-hating fashionless china-fiddler to your face. You complain, but they ignore you. After some pressure they put a correction in a small para on an inside page. Meanwhile they continue...
At this point you have lost your job and your reputation. You scrape up some money for a libel lawyer but they have more money than you and can remain solvent for longer than you can remain sane. You eventually go insane.
I agree that a free press is necessary for a free society. But don't kid yourself that it's a guarantor of it either.
https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1025184637545590785
“Overall, EMA expects a staff loss of about 30 percent, with a high degree of uncertainty regarding mid-term staff retention,”
Brexit will also require a significant redistribution of supervisory work, following the loss of UK experts from the regulatory system.
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-pharmaceuticals-ema/eu-drugs-agency-sees-30-percent-staff-losses-more-cuts-in-brexit-move-idUSKBN1KM53C
Rarely has a mainstream politician captured such a broad swathe of important people! And now he has a bunch of bots supporting him on Twitter! Where Twitter goes, so goes the country, nay, the world!
Truly he is the Messiah!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4874194/Corbyn-s-deputy-John-McDonnell-wants-violent-uprising.html