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I have a soft spot for John Bercow, located somewhere around my wallet. Over the years he has been a steady source of income for me as he has survived in office as Speaker, despite the noises off that regularly come from Conservative backwoodsmen harrumphing about his supposed rudeness and perceived unConservativeness. Despite abundant evidence that only a small minority were willing to put their heads above the parapet, enough Bercowphobes were regularly willing to put money on the proposition that he would be ejected from the Speaker’s chair by given dates to enable me to make a decent income.
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It will always be difficult finding someone "neutral" on any big issue, given that the candidate has to be drawn from a group of people all of whom got there through fighting a party political contest. The best they can do is pick someone who has generally stayed above the fray, whicn might once upon a time have stretched to JRM, but not today. It would however be a great way to get him out of the way.
Thanks Alistair. Time for Speaker Vince Cable to arise...
(Joke)
I agree that it’s probably time for him to step down, he’s been a reasonably good referee but has increasingly become the story - not a good thing for someone who is supposed to be impartial, and more importantly be seen to be impartial.
I can see him wanting to stay on until we leave the EU and all the associated legislation passes. I think he wants to see himself at the centre of it. There is also the issue that it will be difficult to find any MP without a strong view on the subject (Jeremy Corbyn excepted!) so it might be better to appoint a new Speaker once Brexit is no longer a live political issue.
The Commons also needs to think carefully about how they police themselves. That an investigation into the Speaker for personal abuse can be blocked by a committee he chairs and consisting of people appointed by him is out of order.
Alas, I cannot see the incumbent stepping down.
Good thread - but fear Bercow is too fond of the limelight to step aside. How could he resist one, final, heroic role in Brexit? What did Powell say about political careers?
Good article, Mr. Meeks. There's also the matter of Bercow saying he would've stepped down by now.
F1: will see if I can find any bets. And must check the weather forecast.
Being traded outside the US they were withholding tax free
There should be around 22-25 of main markets, with another 10 matches and perhaps a couple of specials.
There is also the small matter of the 40-odd NDAs (which for obvious reasons is yet to be fully explored). To have any chance of salvaging his reputation, Bercow should take the opportunity to go now, but I expect his arrogance to get the better of him. He might yet cling on into next year.
Had he stepped down last week, as originally promised, he’d likely be remembered as an excellent Speaker.
FPT, this is a very comprehensive and informative article on the history of the Euro Dollar market, though the prose is a little stilted:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/278303751_The_History_of_the_Euro-Dollar_Market_-_a_Chronological_Account_of_the_1960s
That being said, I doubt Airbus could move wing production rapidly, so I'd be surprised if they actually did anything.
MPs decide, don’t they? If they want Bercow to stay, I guess he will. Given the decision he has to make on the meaningful vote that in and of itself would be very significant.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44571120
Mr. B, true, though lots of the warnings are coming from those who, in the past, supported eurozone membership. I suspect (people not being prone to persuasion when they have a firm opinion) it just sounds like General Melchitt's pronouncement: "Doing precisely what we've done 17 times before is precisely the last thing they'll expect us to do this time."
permanently. He may have been a great Speaker in terms of his giving power back to backbenchers, but I can no longer bear to listen to his over verbose pontifications.
It’s quite possible that Bercow will stay for some time.
I suspect Hoyle would never have done that.
The focus has been on Chope but John Stevenson and Kate Green also voted against investigating Bercow. This vote did not split along party lines.
One wonders if the outcome would have been different had the lay members of the Committee been able to vote. Personally I think the allegations should have been investigated and that all three MPs who voted against investigation were badly wrong. It may turn out that there is no truth in the allegations but simply brushing them under the carpet without investigation is wrong.
They’ve said in plain terms that the transition timescale of two years is far too short to make substantial changes to the existing supply chain, so they are hardly using scaremongering threats. What is at stake is plans for future production.
The consideration is rather whether MPs want the contest and all its complications should he go. Will either side want an ‘impartial’ Speaker on this particular issue, whatever impartial might mean in this context ?
The Speaker can make an MP’s life in the Chamber much harder. You can’t have a situation like that if you want an independent judgement
#mcafee2024
Mr. Ace, maybe. That's fairly old, but he doesn't seem in ill health or doddery.
F1: still no more markets. It's rather odd.
Two specific example I can immediately think of undermine his effectiveness. One was the business about not inviting Trump. Not because it was not something the Commons would approve of - they would - but because apparently it was a decision that us not his alone and he should have discussed it with the others first, it was very arrogant not to. The second was his decision to try to appoint a clerk who was not qualified for half the role, his defence being he wanted to split the role but had been blocked. The splitting probably made sense but it's not right to make a bad decision in protest. It shows his stubborness.
So should he go? The bullying accusations have to be a concern, there is no need to treat people in the alleged manner, but given he'll not admit it or be found guilty of it even if he should go due to needing to be above reproach how does it happen?
9 years is plenty of time to be Speaker, but I think it's right he won't be going this year.
After a majority voted to leave, a government that didn't have majority backing taking us out would be politically courageous.
It could be done, but it'd be very bold. I feel like the manifesto woukd need to be clear rejoining would be done without a referendum.
https://twitter.com/JWoodcockMP/status/1010790556044353536
A plan with no drawbacks. (Half joke)
You simply don't want one because you fear you'd lose it.
How about they appoint a Labour MP who I'd LINO as a compromise?
Whenever they hear "where's Jeremy Corbyn?" chanted on such a march it smears the pro-EU cause with socialism, and other leftist causes, leading them to steer well clear.
The idea Bercow is above such EU bias (one way or the other) is not credible.
It's usually by people who've never developed the full suite of people skills that'd be essential to any normal career in the private sector, but, instead, have had their adolescent tendencies buttressed by the immense egoism and sense of entitlement that success in the political sphere can often bring.
I can see a coalition of the left/soft-left trying to force that down our throats in Parliament, some time in the late 2020s by relying on some loaded opinion polls.
For the race, much depends on the start. If Hamilton keeps his nose in front, I think he’ll just drive off into the distance. If either Bottas or Vettel get the drop on him, it could be much more interesting.
Leclerc and Grosjean’s odds worth a look for top 6 ?
Granted rumours have done the rounds before, but it's another of those 'this cannot go on' scenarios.
Question is would he stick around as an indy or just resign?
Okay NHS clearly doing it, but how can we also blame the government?
How can it be going on for so long without the ministry, and the longest servicing health secretary, aware?
Leclerc's had brake problems at recent races and the top 6 are in a league of their own (although DNFs are possible). Grosjean starts only 10th, or lower if he gets a penalty.
Leclerc is a talented chap, though, and Grosjean was performing very well until his crash.
I’m also not as sure I’m going to be here for another ten years as I did when i was 70!
1. They get 100% of their news from social media. They never watch television or read newspapers.
2. They don't really understand the ins and outs of Brexit but think it's "stupid". My impression is they associate it with old people who live in places like Hull and think it of it as uncool as smoking cigarettes or having a caravan.
3. Corbyn was so 2016. He is "boring".
4. Neither of them intend to vote, ever, unless it's "something to do with animals". Animal rights or something, I dunno, they both fucking hate fox hunting and are convinced it's still legal.
5. They like Macron but not his wife.
6. They despise Trump and his wife.
7. I think the country might be utterly fucked.
https://twitter.com/dcbmep/status/1010122002378747905?s=21
As to your dig about me not wanting a referendum because I fear it wouldn't have the outcome I desire, well yes you are right. I have no idea what the outcome of a new referendum would be. Neither do you. The last one defied the predictions of the most experienced politicians, the most assiduous pundits and the most diligent pollsters. Nigel Farage even conceded defeat on the evening of the count. We are still arguing over what the result means. The answer to a binary question seems a crazy way to make an important and complex policy decision. I'd much rather choose between two programmes proposed by a team of people committed to implementing them if they win the most support.
Liam Fox says extending the transition period is fine.
https://tech.slashdot.org/story/18/06/22/1914225/uber-driver-was-streaming-hulu-just-before-fatal-self-driving-car-crash-says-police
The most astonishing story, they employed a “safety driver” who was a felon on minimum wage and with minimal training, to watch over a self driving car that had a bunch of critical safety systems disabled that the driver didn’t know about, and the driver was watching TV on her phone rather than watching the road.