Safe seat still pretty safe and likely to get safer in a general election and a Corbyn critic replaced with Corbyn supporter in Parliament. A good days (months?) work.
Universal credit sounds a bit like Brexit, a rolling, unstoppable clusterfuck.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-44468437 The Child Poverty Action Group questioned whether the government should push on with a programme that was "demonstrably failing". But the NAO report found that so many changes had been made to job centres and working practices that there was no "alternative but to continue"....
Safe seat still pretty safe and likely to get safer in a general election and a Corbyn critic replaced with Corbyn supporter in Parliament. A good days (months?) work.
That's one take...
My take is that Labour have been put on notice that centre-left Remain voters definitely have somewhere else they can go. Imagine a 19% Labour to Lib Dem swing in every Remain constituency... It might sound far fetched at the moment but sooner or later Labour has to decide whether to please its Remain voters or its Brexit voters. Its Remain voters are certainly getting very twitchy and uncomfortable now aren't they?
The idea that the 2016 referendum was a superior form of democracy to that found in Denmark, France or Ireland.
In the Republic of Ireland if the establishment don't like the result of a referendum, they make people vote again. It's happened twice in EU treaty referenda.
I believe the same thing also happened once in France, dunno about Denmark.
The idea that the 2016 referendum was a superior form of democracy to that found in Denmark, France or Ireland.
Manifestly, Referendums do not work in our system. There is no agreement on what we should aim for, so no result that can unify the country on Brexit. They do seem to work better in Ireland and Switzerland, where they are used frequently enough that voters vote on the issue, rather than to bash the sitting government.
We should have realised that referendums were crap when AV was rejected
The idea that the 2016 referendum was a superior form of democracy to that found in Denmark, France or Ireland.
In the Republic of Ireland if the establishment don't like the result of a referendum, they make people vote again. It's happened twice in EU treaty referenda.
I believe the same thing also happened once in France, dunno about Denmark.
They rejected Euro membership by referendum in 2000 and still have the krone. They also had a second referendum on justice matters in 2015. Although both went against the EU and the government the results were accepted and the referenda haven't been rerun.
The idea that the 2016 referendum was a superior form of democracy to that found in Denmark, France or Ireland.
Manifestly, Referendums do not work in our system. There is no agreement on what we should aim for, so no result that can unify the country on Brexit. They do seem to work better in Ireland and Switzerland, where they are used frequently enough that voters vote on the issue, rather than to bash the sitting government.
We should have realised that referendums were crap when AV was rejected
Even AC Grayling isn’t asking for a re-run of that one.
It was very accurate and suggests that their back office functions have recovered from their mauling three years ago - a sign of progress perhaps.
The fact is however that it wasn't a 'strong' second but even allowing for Labour's drop in support it was a 'distant' second. They got less than half of Labour's share.
Oh and the BBC have messed up. Their report says the Yellw vote is up 20% when it's actually up 20 points!
Dreadful result for Labour particularly in a seat like Lewisham. Probably terminal for Corbyn's chances of being other than an also ran.
If you are a Remainer who would you vote for out of Labour or Tory? Until last week there was sufficient ambiguity to go for Labour. Now I can't see any ambiguity at all and it looks like the voters of Lewisham agree. They have tossed away a priceless USP
I heard John McDonnell saying how difficult it was for Labour to ride two horses without bifurcating itself. For once he was correct and now they're bifurcated.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-44468437
The Child Poverty Action Group questioned whether the government should push on with a programme that was "demonstrably failing".
But the NAO report found that so many changes had been made to job centres and working practices that there was no "alternative but to continue"....
My take is that Labour have been put on notice that centre-left Remain voters definitely have somewhere else they can go. Imagine a 19% Labour to Lib Dem swing in every Remain constituency... It might sound far fetched at the moment but sooner or later Labour has to decide whether to please its Remain voters or its Brexit voters. Its Remain voters are certainly getting very twitchy and uncomfortable now aren't they?
https://twitter.com/bbcthisweek/status/1007399377374048256
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/people-dont-trust-you-tory-12711445
Thanks for sharing.
But given the numbers it's not likely to cause any upheaval. 50% was the benchmark for Corbyn and he has just managed it.
That’s how it is in Britain.
"In canvassing seen by BI, the Lib Dems are set to finish second place with 25% of this vote, up 21 points on last year's election. Labour will retain the seat but with a vote share 19 points down on last year. The Tories will drop 7 points to third."
http://uk.businessinsider.com/lib-dems-expect-strong-second-place-finish-in-lewisham-east-anti-brexit-message-may-and-corbyn-2018-6
Humbug to Labour's horrendous performance. On the plus side, backing Mr. Smithson's LD second tip meant my loss was mitigated.
Further proof that Labour is bad for prosperity.
I believe the same thing also happened once in France, dunno about Denmark.
https://twitter.com/CorbynSuperFan/status/1005750026444910592?s=19
UKIP below Women's Equality Party now.
We should have realised that referendums were crap when AV was rejected
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_opt-outs_from_the_European_Union
The fact is however that it wasn't a 'strong' second but even allowing for Labour's drop in support it was a 'distant' second. They got less than half of Labour's share.
Oh and the BBC have messed up. Their report says the Yellw vote is up 20% when it's actually up 20 points!
https://amp.theguardian.com/society/2018/jun/15/may-poised-to-boost-nhs-budget-by-up-to-6bn-a-year?__twitter_impression=true
Or about £385 million a week....
If you are a Remainer who would you vote for out of Labour or Tory? Until last week there was sufficient ambiguity to go for Labour. Now I can't see any ambiguity at all and it looks like the voters of Lewisham agree. They have tossed away a priceless USP
I heard John McDonnell saying how difficult it was for Labour to ride two horses without bifurcating itself. For once he was correct and now they're bifurcated.