Well, I'm switching off then. It may well be appropriate and a worthy topic for the modern historical politically inclined, but I tend to glaze over when shouty people start talking past one another, delving the depths of political hyperbole, when 'debating' Thatcher's legacy when I have no experience of it.
I tend to either get worked up on things that happened while I was politically aware, or like to debate older historical politics in a reasoned fashion, so I tend to get left behind when people get all passionate about Thatcher and her policies.
On the 2011 Darlington result posted in the leader, I think it must be pointed out that Labour had 2 candidates (599 + 544) while the Tory just 1 (polling 277).
Adding the 2 Labour candidate together makes it look like Labour had more support than actually had IMO.
It's pretty clear that the great majority Tory voters didn't use their second vote in 2011.
What was the matter with her? I didn't notice anything unusual in her words, and she actually sounded like a normal person, not a blandified party apparatchik.
I've got a new Telegraph blog to write. Anyone got any burning ideas? Something they want to get off their chest?
Perhaps tim has an opinion on the political and electoral merits of Geo Osborne which I could relay.
Maybe you could link your recent trip to the Maldives with Global Warming? The islands are supposed to be about to be inundated, aren't they? Supposed to...
Sunil, what is the line that runs underneath a bridge on the District line between West Ham and Bromley-by-bow? It's near Limehouse on the c2c and runs between north and South. Is it the East London Line?
It's not the East London, that runs under the District line further west at Whitechapel. Do you mean the DLR at Bow? There's nothing between West Ham and Bromley by Bow except the River Lea!
It could well be, I've been looking at the tube maps and that seems most likely, thanks
I've got a new Telegraph blog to write. Anyone got any burning ideas? Something they want to get off their chest?
Perhaps tim has an opinion on the political and electoral merits of Geo Osborne which I could relay.
If you want something topical, how about doing a different angle on MMR and the Swansea measles epidemic? Every commentator and their dog are going on about how the Wakefield controversy has led to this situation.
Instead, write something on how hard it is for anyone, even highly educated people, to know who to trust when it comes to important decisions such as MMR. Such decisions are so specialist that people who are not intimately involved with that speciality have to follow whoever they trust.
Throw in a media who (with one or two honourable exceptions) do not understand it either, and snake-oil salesmen, and we have a situation where it is all too easy for people to make the wrong decisions with the best of intentions. MMR threw in another couple of factors: fear, and the understandable desire of parents wanting to find *something* to blame for their child's autism.
Also mention that it will happen again. And again.
(AGW is another area which is outside of most people's understanding at a deep level. People just follow their instincts, and read the blogs, and use the data, that backs up those instincts).
However, for a rather off-piste topic, how about a blog on the way that 98.347% of people could not tell an invented statistic if it bit them on the backside?
Ah, bollox. At least it was a good enough idea, then. Hitchens comes at it from an unusual angle, if only because he was peripheral to the controversy.
Hitchens has one of his conclusions wrong - he still somewhat amazingly believes that Wakefield did not set out to deceive. I thought that was well proven by now, and his motives for the deception clear.
The German language is awesome, as Schadenfreude is the greatest word in the history of mankind.
But Latin is so elegant.
I have to confess, swearing in French is the best, it's like wiping your arse with silk.
Mr Eagles I can and do swear frequently in french. It hasn't a patch on English.
I have to say that germanic languages seem more appropriate for it to me. Sure, using French to wipe one's own arse with silk sounds cool and all, but sweating should be harsh, guttural, rough.
No real shock in Lascelles then. I'm really hoping for an exciting May elections, but sadly I'm assisting with the count in my area so won't be able to keep a full eye on things.
What was the matter with her? I didn't notice anything unusual in her words, and she actually sounded like a normal person, not a blandified party apparatchik.
Oh it was nothing to do with the candidate, kle4.
I had just spilt my coffee on the keyboard.
Think what your coffee could have done if Rowena was the speaking candidate!
What was the matter with her? I didn't notice anything unusual in her words, and she actually sounded like a normal person, not a blandified party apparatchik.
Oh it was nothing to do with the candidate, kle4.
I had just spilt my coffee on the keyboard.
Think what your coffee could have done if Rowena was the speaking candidate!
It would have been champagne, Andrea.
Or at least, at this time of night, a very fine Brandy del Marchesato.
It wasn't hard to know what to trust in the MMR case. There was never any research linking MMR to autism.
Oh lordy, you're off on this again. We now know there is no link. What matters to people is what is reported by the media; and at the time parts of the media were hyping up the possibility of a link massively. Witness the TV interviews where Blair was asked whether Leo had had the single jab.
Even Private Eye got in on the act, enough to cause my scepticism to waver for a couple of weeks.
You cannot expect people to trawl through the literature on every possible subject. The media (TV as well as various commentators and newspapers) have a responsibility to report such matters responsibly. Instead they often go for the dramatic headlines, ignoring important things like probabilities.
ISTR the same thing happened in 1996 or 1997 with a pill that was rumoured to be dangerous to take. A GF of mine at the time freaked out about it; I just told her to go to see her doctor to ask his advice.
Though why the Daily Mail is upset that tax-avoiding multinationals are raking it in in honour of Maggie eludes me....
They also think that Kinnock going to the funeral of Cllr Olga instead of Maggie's is a snub. Not sure why though.
If you are unfortunate enough as a family to be due to bury a relative on the same day as the holding of a very, very rare Royal Ceremonial Funeral and you hoped for a national political figure to attend, then the simple course of action would be to reschedule the funeral by a day.
7 uncontested wards also in Shropshire (+ 1 further guaranteed Tory seat in a undercontested ward). Durham wards will be all contested but 6-7 are underconsted (for ex 3 to be elected: 3 Lab candidate, 2 others. So 1 Lab is elected by default)
Though why the Daily Mail is upset that tax-avoiding multinationals are raking it in in honour of Maggie eludes me....
They also think that Kinnock going to the funeral of Cllr Olga instead of Maggie's is a snub. Not sure why though.
If you are unfortunate enough as a family to be due to bury a relative on the same day as the holding of a very, very rare Royal Ceremonial Funeral and you hoped for a national political figure to attend, then the simple course of action would be to reschedule the funeral by a day.
"Dr Andrew Wakefield is in front of the General Medical Council on charges of serious professional misconduct, his paper on 12 children with autism and bowel problems is described as “debunked” – although it never supported the conclusions ascribed to it – and journalists have convinced themselves that his £435,643 fee from legal aid proves that his research was flawed.
I will now defend the heretic Dr Andrew Wakefield.
The media are fingering the wrong man, and they know who should really take the blame: in MMR, journalists and editors have constructed their greatest hoax to date, and finally demonstrated that they can pose a serious risk to public health. But there are also many unexpected twists to learn from: the health journalists themselves were not at fault, the scale of the bias in the coverage was greater than anybody realised at the time, Leo Blair was a bigger player than Wakefield, and it all happened much later than you think."
@SeanT: re your blog. Since your first Telegraph post was about the old and drugs (and you made the point that you knew about drugs) why don't you make the second about the old and sex (since you know so much about ..... etc). You get the idea.
Though why the Daily Mail is upset that tax-avoiding multinationals are raking it in in honour of Maggie eludes me....
They also think that Kinnock going to the funeral of Cllr Olga instead of Maggie's is a snub. Not sure why though.
If you are unfortunate enough as a family to be due to bury a relative on the same day as the holding of a very, very rare Royal Ceremonial Funeral and you hoped for a national political figure to attend, then the simple course of action would be to reschedule the funeral by a day.
Kinnock is avoiding St. Paul's by choice.
yes, it's a choice. A sensible choice! Every sensible man would go to the funeral of a friend rather than to the one of a person you encountered during your professional life but you weren't particularly friendly with just because said person happened to be a PM.
yes, it's a choice. A sensible choice! Every sensible man would go to the funeral of a friend rather than to the one of a person you encountered during your professional life but you weren't particularly friendly with just because said person happened to be a PM.
Agree - Kinnock's presence will be valued in the Valleys and his absence of no consequence to anyone in St Paul's...
Though why the Daily Mail is upset that tax-avoiding multinationals are raking it in in honour of Maggie eludes me....
They also think that Kinnock going to the funeral of Cllr Olga instead of Maggie's is a snub. Not sure why though.
If you are unfortunate enough as a family to be due to bury a relative on the same day as the holding of a very, very rare Royal Ceremonial Funeral and you hoped for a national political figure to attend, then the simple course of action would be to reschedule the funeral by a day.
Kinnock is avoiding St. Paul's by choice.
So?
Kinnock is quite entitled to decline the invitation to attend. He should just be honest about it and not try to hide behind a prior engagement.
Bizarrely, in a tab open on a site about a certain popular tv show based off a famous book series, I'm getting ads for something claiming to be 'Queen's Honours Experts: Significantly increase your chances of MBE, OBE, CBE, Knighthood. Learn more'
I guess I'll have to be awarded the KCMG on my own then.
Though why the Daily Mail is upset that tax-avoiding multinationals are raking it in in honour of Maggie eludes me....
They also think that Kinnock going to the funeral of Cllr Olga instead of Maggie's is a snub. Not sure why though.
If you are unfortunate enough as a family to be due to bury a relative on the same day as the holding of a very, very rare Royal Ceremonial Funeral and you hoped for a national political figure to attend, then the simple course of action would be to reschedule the funeral by a day.
Kinnock is avoiding St. Paul's by choice.
So?
Kinnock is quite entitled to decline the invitation to attend. He should just be honest about it and not try to hide behind a prior engagement.
Doesn't seem like hiding if the reason is perfectly reasonable.
By the way, "Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead" is No4 in the charts and heading for top spot on Sunday. Should the BBC play it in the chart rundown? Personally I think not.
Though why the Daily Mail is upset that tax-avoiding multinationals are raking it in in honour of Maggie eludes me....
They also think that Kinnock going to the funeral of Cllr Olga instead of Maggie's is a snub. Not sure why though.
If you are unfortunate enough as a family to be due to bury a relative on the same day as the holding of a very, very rare Royal Ceremonial Funeral and you hoped for a national political figure to attend, then the simple course of action would be to reschedule the funeral by a day.
Kinnock is avoiding St. Paul's by choice.
yes, it's a choice. A sensible choice! Every sensible man would go to the funeral of a friend rather than to the one of a person you encountered during your professional life but you weren't particularly friendly with just because said person happened to be a PM.
Andrea, you are avoiding my point that a private funeral can easily be rescheduled.
Though why the Daily Mail is upset that tax-avoiding multinationals are raking it in in honour of Maggie eludes me....
They also think that Kinnock going to the funeral of Cllr Olga instead of Maggie's is a snub. Not sure why though.
If you are unfortunate enough as a family to be due to bury a relative on the same day as the holding of a very, very rare Royal Ceremonial Funeral and you hoped for a national political figure to attend, then the simple course of action would be to reschedule the funeral by a day.
Kinnock is avoiding St. Paul's by choice.
yes, it's a choice. A sensible choice! Every sensible man would go to the funeral of a friend rather than to the one of a person you encountered during your professional life but you weren't particularly friendly with just because said person happened to be a PM.
Andrea, you are avoiding my point that a private funeral can easily be rescheduled.
Why the hell should it be? It's a point all right, but I regret to say only barely.
ETA: Also, let's go one step further: if you want people to mourn you properly, with full attention, try not to die on the same day a a famous person, otherwise you're causing great inconvenience for people.
"So, former Foreign Minister, what do you think of your former opponent of many years, who passed away?" "Well, to tell you the truth I'm a bit teary because an old friend of decades passed away today after a long illness" "...You heartless b*stard. Stop lying and just admit you don't want to talk about them."
Oh gods, I think I've turned into someone else for a minute there.
By the way, "Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead" is No4 in the charts and heading for top spot on Sunday. Should the BBC play it in the chart rundown? Personally I think not.
That a lot of saddo-lefties are funnelling money to tax-avoiding multinationals?
Why should it be rescheduled? If a number of people wanted to go to two funerals, then it could be. I can't imagine many at the funeral in Wales want to be at the one in London. Perhaps Mr Kinnock would have attended St Pauls if he was free. He isn't. So shouldn't be criticised. I don't think Mrs Thatcher would approve. She was entirely about looking after your own family and friends rather than some nationalised mourning incident.
Though why the Daily Mail is upset that tax-avoiding multinationals are raking it in in honour of Maggie eludes me....
They also think that Kinnock going to the funeral of Cllr Olga instead of Maggie's is a snub. Not sure why though.
If you are unfortunate enough as a family to be due to bury a relative on the same day as the holding of a very, very rare Royal Ceremonial Funeral and you hoped for a national political figure to attend, then the simple course of action would be to reschedule the funeral by a day.
Kinnock is avoiding St. Paul's by choice.
yes, it's a choice. A sensible choice! Every sensible man would go to the funeral of a friend rather than to the one of a person you encountered during your professional life but you weren't particularly friendly with just because said person happened to be a PM.
Andrea, you are avoiding my point that a private funeral can easily be rescheduled.
It is not Neil Kinnocks prerogative to reschedule a private funeral. He will not be missed at St Paul's, whether he wants to be there or not.
Though why the Daily Mail is upset that tax-avoiding multinationals are raking it in in honour of Maggie eludes me....
They also think that Kinnock going to the funeral of Cllr Olga instead of Maggie's is a snub. Not sure why though.
If you are unfortunate enough as a family to be due to bury a relative on the same day as the holding of a very, very rare Royal Ceremonial Funeral and you hoped for a national political figure to attend, then the simple course of action would be to reschedule the funeral by a day.
Kinnock is avoiding St. Paul's by choice.
yes, it's a choice. A sensible choice! Every sensible man would go to the funeral of a friend rather than to the one of a person you encountered during your professional life but you weren't particularly friendly with just because said person happened to be a PM.
Andrea, you are avoiding my point that a private funeral can easily be rescheduled.
I can't see why it should be.
And anyway, really?! In Italy it's usually the priest who decideds when a funeral takes place accordingly to his committments.
By the way, "Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead" is No4 in the charts and heading for top spot on Sunday. Should the BBC play it in the chart rundown? Personally I think not.
Though why the Daily Mail is upset that tax-avoiding multinationals are raking it in in honour of Maggie eludes me....
They also think that Kinnock going to the funeral of Cllr Olga instead of Maggie's is a snub. Not sure why though.
If you are unfortunate enough as a family to be due to bury a relative on the same day as the holding of a very, very rare Royal Ceremonial Funeral and you hoped for a national political figure to attend, then the simple course of action would be to reschedule the funeral by a day.
Kinnock is avoiding St. Paul's by choice.
yes, it's a choice. A sensible choice! Every sensible man would go to the funeral of a friend rather than to the one of a person you encountered during your professional life but you weren't particularly friendly with just because said person happened to be a PM.
Andrea, you are avoiding my point that a private funeral can easily be rescheduled.
I can't see why it should be.
And anyway, really?! In Italy it's usually the priest who decideds when a funeral takes place accordingly to his committments.
It is much more flexible in England and Wales, Andrea. And, although we will never know for sure, I am sure that Kinnock would have been offered this option if his friendship with Olga had been very close. He could easily have declined with a "but I would far prefer to be at Olga's funeral than that of the old witch in St Paul's".
Though why the Daily Mail is upset that tax-avoiding multinationals are raking it in in honour of Maggie eludes me....
They also think that Kinnock going to the funeral of Cllr Olga instead of Maggie's is a snub. Not sure why though.
If you are unfortunate enough as a family to be due to bury a relative on the same day as the holding of a very, very rare Royal Ceremonial Funeral and you hoped for a national political figure to attend, then the simple course of action would be to reschedule the funeral by a day.
Kinnock is avoiding St. Paul's by choice.
yes, it's a choice. A sensible choice! Every sensible man would go to the funeral of a friend rather than to the one of a person you encountered during your professional life but you weren't particularly friendly with just because said person happened to be a PM.
Andrea, you are avoiding my point that a private funeral can easily be rescheduled.
It is not Neil Kinnocks prerogative to reschedule a private funeral. He will not be missed at St Paul's, whether he wants to be there or not.
I am uncertain that my point warrants pressing, and I agree that he will not be missed at St. Paul's, but families in grief organising a funeral tend to be extraordinarily flexible in meeting the requirements of mourners. Funerals are often delayed to allow family from overseas to return and most next of kin check out the availability of key attendees before arranging a final date.
"The Margaret Thatcher protesters too young to remember her One is a middle class politics student, another is a Left-wing activist and the third came from Sweden to study in Britain."
Reading the tweets it appears Blunkett did not have a happy outing on QT - quoting the Spitting Image 'vegetables will have the same' sketch as fact then 'wishing she hadn't died in the run up to the council elections....'
But get this. In Ireland, where the government refused to fund the vaccine, the Daily Mail are campaigning – vigorously – for the jab. Apparently it’s lifesaving: “Join the Irish Daily Mail’s cervical cancer vaccination campaign today”
That's because the Irish Daily Mail is operating under the vicious jackboot of Leveson style regulation and has to resort to such depraved reasons as 'science'. As the tea party tories will tell you.
"Reading the tweets it appears Blunkett did not have a happy outing on QT"
Shows how misleading tweets can be - for the first time in about a billion years he came across rather well, and actually sounded like a Labour politician.
By the way, "Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead" is No4 in the charts and heading for top spot on Sunday. Should the BBC play it in the chart rundown? Personally I think not.
Play it and be damned. It shows who the real nasty party is.
What kind of song should not be played on the BBC? Should they just be impartial and reflect the record sales? If the BNP made a racist hit record should it be played?
"Reading the tweets it appears Blunkett did not have a happy outing on QT"
Shows how misleading tweets can be - for the first time in about a billion years he came across rather well, and actually sounded like a Labour politician.
Perhaps for those doing the tweeting, 'sounding like a Labour politician' is itself the qualifier for not having a happy outing? And as such not very reliable as an indicator of actual quality or lack thereof from DB.
I'm sure you would try to spin his imaginary tenure as PM just as hard and just as incompetently if your prediction of Lansley becoming PM wasn't complete lunacy, Seth O Logue.
By the way, "Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead" is No4 in the charts and heading for top spot on Sunday. Should the BBC play it in the chart rundown? Personally I think not.
Play it and be damned. It shows who the real nasty party is.
What kind of song should not be played on the BBC? Should they just be impartial and reflect the record sales? If the BNP made a racist hit record should it be played?
The BBC would not play the sex pistols "God save the Queen' and FGTH's "Relax'. It just gave them more publicity. Let the munchkins sing "the Witch is Dead", it just shows how spiteful and powerless the left is nowadays.
Carlotta, even by your standards, it's rather desperate to criticise a politician for his performance on a programme that you didn't actually watch.
James, even by your standards, it's rather desperate to defend a goof with a non- denial denial!
Care to comment on the Yes/No split from the Scottish Green's PanelBase poll - or has it still not yet been published (unlike the rest of the results)?
Let the munchkins sing "the Witch is Dead", it just shows how spiteful and powerless the left is nowadays.
And how they love giving money to tax-avoiding multinationals!
Thatcher would enjoy it enormously! (Except for the tax avoidance - and despite the efforts of the current govt, in contrast to the last, still much work to be done)
"Care to comment on the Yes/No split from the Scottish Green's PanelBase poll - or has it still not yet been published (unlike the rest of the results)?"
To the best of my knowledge it hasn't been published, which means you misrepresented your own back-of-the-envelope calculations as fact.
Apologies are good for the soul, Carlotta. The floor's all yours.
"Care to comment on the Yes/No split from the Scottish Green's PanelBase poll - or has it still not yet been published (unlike the rest of the results)?"
To the best of my knowledge it hasn't been published, which means you misrepresented your own back-of-the-envelope calculations as fact.
Apologies are good for the soul, Carlotta. The floor's all yours.
Feel free to correct my maths James. It was based on their data.
It's not your maths that are the problem. It's your wild assumption that those figures have been properly weighted, when neither you nor I have the faintest idea whether that's the case.
On your second point, the responses to only one question have been published, and as that question is referred to as "Question 13a", that does not really support the view that the independence question alone was held back.
@SeanT Congrats on blogging for the Telegraph. Why do eminent women in fields such as politics and acting have male heirs who are such f*cktards? Maybe you could do a joint piece with one of your distinguished colleagues at Telegraph Towers.
Just catching up on the earlier threads. There was an implication that somehow Edward, Lord Carson KC was less deserving of a state funeral than Margaret, Baroness Thatcher LG OM notwithstanding the fact that the latter will not, of course, receive a state funeral. It should be noted that Carson destroyed the cosy stitch up between Asquith and Redmond that Ulster would be subjected to Rome Rule from Dublin, contrary to the wishes of the people of Ulster. Had that stitch up been allowed to proceed and the Government of Ireland Act 1914 taken effect as passed, there would have undoubtedly been all out war. Carson made London wake up to that fact. He subsequently served Crown and country as HM Attorney General and Lord of Appeal in Ordinary. There could be no man more deserving of a state funeral than Carson.
Olga apparently died on March 29...frankly, it's about time to do the funeral!
It's a British thing, Andrea, in my experience so far they tend to wait forever to have the funeral. (I think it's because a huge proportion of cases go to the coroner.) If I hear someone in Ireland has died I generally have to book a flight that day or risk missing the funeral.
I've got a new Telegraph blog to write. Anyone got any burning ideas? Something they want to get off their chest?
Perhaps tim has an opinion on the political and electoral merits of Geo Osborne which I could relay.
What age will state retirement age be I'm 2050 and how are we going to adjust society to that? My guess about 75.
Bearing in mind the age of Telegraph readers, I don't expect many will be bothered by the retirement age in 2050. They will have been resident on their fluffy clouds playing harps for decades by then.
I've got a new Telegraph blog to write. Anyone got any burning ideas? Something they want to get off their chest?
Perhaps tim has an opinion on the political and electoral merits of Geo Osborne which I could relay.
How about some observations about the sentimentalization (if that is indeed a word) and our apparent inability (and the media's) to respond proportionately to a famous death. starting with Diana obviously.
something to do with an increasing fear of our own mortality? or what...
Olga apparently died on March 29...frankly, it's about time to do the funeral!
It's a British thing, Andrea, in my experience so far they tend to wait forever to have the funeral. (I think it's because a huge proportion of cases go to the coroner.) If I hear someone in Ireland has died I generally have to book a flight that day or risk missing the funeral.
Thanks Neil
As I said earlier, my grandfather died recently...it was a Thursday morning and the funeral took place on Friday afternoon.
If you have relatives coming from far away, I guess you ask to hold it on Monday.
But we tend to get them out of the way as soon as possible.
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Well, I'm switching off then. It may well be appropriate and a worthy topic for the modern historical politically inclined, but I tend to glaze over when shouty people start talking past one another, delving the depths of political hyperbole, when 'debating' Thatcher's legacy when I have no experience of it.
I tend to either get worked up on things that happened while I was politically aware, or like to debate older historical politics in a reasoned fashion, so I tend to get left behind when people get all passionate about Thatcher and her policies.
Adding the 2 Labour candidate together makes it look like Labour had more support than actually had IMO.
It's pretty clear that the great majority Tory voters didn't use their second vote in 2011.
I had just spilt my coffee on the keyboard.
Hitchens has one of his conclusions wrong - he still somewhat amazingly believes that Wakefield did not set out to deceive. I thought that was well proven by now, and his motives for the deception clear.
No real shock in Lascelles then. I'm really hoping for an exciting May elections, but sadly I'm assisting with the count in my area so won't be able to keep a full eye on things.
Or at least, at this time of night, a very fine Brandy del Marchesato.
https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/322466929631698944/photo/1
Though why the Daily Mail is upset that tax-avoiding multinationals are raking it in in honour of Maggie eludes me....
"Up to 24,000 people in Wiltshire will be unable to vote in next month's local elections due to uncontested seats.
Of the 98 Wiltshire Council seats up for election, six are uncontested and all are Conservative controlled."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-22105512
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/322462254178107392/photo/1
Even Private Eye got in on the act, enough to cause my scepticism to waver for a couple of weeks.
You cannot expect people to trawl through the literature on every possible subject. The media (TV as well as various commentators and newspapers) have a responsibility to report such matters responsibly. Instead they often go for the dramatic headlines, ignoring important things like probabilities.
ISTR the same thing happened in 1996 or 1997 with a pill that was rumoured to be dangerous to take. A GF of mine at the time freaked out about it; I just told her to go to see her doctor to ask his advice.
Never mind whether you agree or disagree with him: the actual wording is superb.
Sean, over to you.
Kinnock is avoiding St. Paul's by choice.
Durham wards will be all contested but 6-7 are underconsted (for ex 3 to be elected: 3 Lab candidate, 2 others. So 1 Lab is elected by default)
"Dr Andrew Wakefield is in front of the General Medical Council on charges of serious professional misconduct, his paper on 12 children with autism and bowel problems is described as “debunked” – although it never supported the conclusions ascribed to it – and journalists have convinced themselves that his £435,643 fee from legal aid proves that his research was flawed.
I will now defend the heretic Dr Andrew Wakefield.
The media are fingering the wrong man, and they know who should really take the blame: in MMR, journalists and editors have constructed their greatest hoax to date, and finally demonstrated that they can pose a serious risk to public health. But there are also many unexpected twists to learn from: the health journalists themselves were not at fault, the scale of the bias in the coverage was greater than anybody realised at the time, Leo Blair was a bigger player than Wakefield, and it all happened much later than you think."
http://www.badscience.net/2008/08/the-medias-mmr-hoax/
Rob Summons: 291 (Independent Plus)
Robin Wilson 166 (Conservative)
Robin Howells 162 (Labour)
Jon Harvey: 46 (Independent).
"Flattering ‘British Obama’ edit on Wikipedia raises questions for MP Chuka Umunna"
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/politics/article3737364.ece?CMP=OTH-gnws-standard-2013_04_11
Wait, I know...it's in Calderdale! That's where Cherie's father lives.
About 20 miles away from Manchester.
'About 20 miles from Manchester'?
Well now, both those statements cannot possibly be true, surely.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aG_mGYp1VDQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
If I were you, I would pause for a moment and pray an Ave Maria.
I guess I'll have to be awarded the KCMG on my own then.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2306655/Ding-Dong-The-Witch-Is-Dead-BBC-dilemma-playing-song-Margaret-Thatcher-dies.html
ETA: Also, let's go one step further: if you want people to mourn you properly, with full attention, try not to die on the same day a a famous person, otherwise you're causing great inconvenience for people.
"So, former Foreign Minister, what do you think of your former opponent of many years, who passed away?"
"Well, to tell you the truth I'm a bit teary because an old friend of decades passed away today after a long illness"
"...You heartless b*stard. Stop lying and just admit you don't want to talk about them."
Oh gods, I think I've turned into someone else for a minute there.
Rejoice!
And anyway, really?! In Italy it's usually the priest who decideds when a funeral takes place accordingly to his committments.
One is a middle class politics student, another is a Left-wing activist and the third came from Sweden to study in Britain."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/margaret-thatcher/9988538/The-Margaret-Thatcher-protesters-too-young-to-remember-her.html
Reading the tweets it appears Blunkett did not have a happy outing on QT - quoting the Spitting Image 'vegetables will have the same' sketch as fact then 'wishing she hadn't died in the run up to the council elections....'
Shows how misleading tweets can be - for the first time in about a billion years he came across rather well, and actually sounded like a Labour politician.
Just a guess though, could be nonense.
Night all.
Ming on the other hand proved precisely why his tenure as lib dem leader was such a short albeit amusing one.
If Pork had ever had the good fortune to meet her even he would have been tamed.
Carlotta, even by your standards, it's rather desperate to criticise a politician for his performance on a programme that you didn't actually watch.
Hillary Clinton (D) 45% (47%)
•Rand Paul (R) 45% (42%)
•Not sure 10% (11%)
•Hillary Clinton (D) 46% (48%)
•Marco Rubio (R) 40% (40%)
•Not sure 14% (12%)
Care to comment on the Yes/No split from the Scottish Green's PanelBase poll - or has it still not yet been published (unlike the rest of the results)?
Thatcher would enjoy it enormously! (Except for the tax avoidance - and despite the efforts of the current govt, in contrast to the last, still much work to be done)
To the best of my knowledge it hasn't been published, which means you misrepresented your own back-of-the-envelope calculations as fact.
Apologies are good for the soul, Carlotta. The floor's all yours.
Why do you think it has not been published ?
I just discovered that Rowena is actually Rowenna. With double N.
It's not your maths that are the problem. It's your wild assumption that those figures have been properly weighted, when neither you nor I have the faintest idea whether that's the case.
On your second point, the responses to only one question have been published, and as that question is referred to as "Question 13a", that does not really support the view that the independence question alone was held back.
Rowenna trips off the tongue like a ballerina.
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Congrats on blogging for the Telegraph.
Why do eminent women in fields such as politics and acting have male heirs who are such f*cktards?
Maybe you could do a joint piece with one of your distinguished colleagues at Telegraph Towers.
Talk about bitter young men!
something to do with an increasing fear of our own mortality? or what...
As I said earlier, my grandfather died recently...it was a Thursday morning and the funeral took place on Friday afternoon.
If you have relatives coming from far away, I guess you ask to hold it on Monday.
But we tend to get them out of the way as soon as possible.
I missed that, very sorry to hear it.
Oh f*ck
Oh, f*ck, oh f*ck.
Oh f*ck, oh f*ck, oh f*ck.
Thanks. I must admit that "recently" means "2 months ago".
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