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https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/991576965072277509?s=19
Is that de - gringo - lade of Sajid Javid?
The way he took Corbyn apart over hard left labour members calling him 'coconut' or 'Uncle Tom' was electrifying. He had Corbyn and Abbott on the ropes
How long must we pretend this is what we want or need?
Even if it is a safe Labour ward this leaflet is poor. But then I am not sure there is much that can be done anyway for Ilford town.
Going through the motions?
Sajid is not shy.
It's too slow to stop Brexit by itself, of course. But one does detect a collapse of intellectual morale on the Leave side at present. The tweeting is quite forlorn just now.
Our international reputation has taken a battering, and whatever happens that is damage done.
Who is your avatar BTW?
Of course who needs to bother actually voting - we can just change tack on the basis of a poll?!
If some people don't seem to respect actual votes why should others accept polls?
Additionally, while there is a clear trend, what if in 1 year the number changes back to more thinking it was right?
Nevertheless, the trend is not insignificant, even though it is not a signal of inevitability.
I do love these threads as they give false hope to all those who follow the EU line of 'if you get the wrong answer keep asking the question until you get the right one.'
The more I see people trying to reverse the decision the more I look forward to the day you finally realise you have failed and the pain that will bring.
No doubt an even smaller minority support the garbled mess we are going to end up with.
Did the EU steal your girlfriend or something?
There are Remainers out there - and plenty on here - who are unhappy about the original result but have accepted it. They deserve empathy and understanding. There are others like you who scorn democracy and deserve nothing but scorn in return.
https://twitter.com/ian_a_jones/status/991721400623824896
https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/991725422642712576
On parliamentary support certainly some people react too strongly to any stumbling blocks, and start advocating silly, major constitutional changes out of anger, but heated rhetoric being angry at parliamentary ping pong is not exactly the same thing as dispensing with parliamentary support, nor even would be defending separate roles of executive and legislature.
Good evening all.
It is only people like you who want to overturn democratic decisions when you don't agree with them. You really are a shameful character.
On that point Richard we can agree! I find the excitement baffling on here when new polls come out. I was like that once. Not any more.
There is a certain amount of truth in Lord Carswell's words.
If I am wrong I will admit it.
Having studied economics at degree level, I suspect the impact on our economy will be substantial and painful in the event of a no deal. If a deal can be found that encompasses financial services, traded goods and like plus an acceptable compromise on Northern Ireland. Then great, however I worry for the impact on peoples lives if nothing is agreed. I refer to "populism" with disdain because it is easy promise something it is harder to deliver on it as we witness week in and week out with Brexit. The end point will come and the question is will we economically be better staying in or leaving. I don't think it will be the latter.
I don’t welcome any angry constitutional-wrecking rhetoric, thanks. Not in this age of politics via social media.
As for the recent elections, no one and nothing won a mandate and it seems a goodly chunk of Labour support voted that way *despite* Brexit.
* Subject to the usual caveat that it depends on what our EU friends will agree to.
The one thing Windrush has done is highlight the huge support for a hostile immigration policy as shown in the you gov poll and immigration will continue to a big role in the outcome.
If the UK cannot control its borders or laws and the EU set our trade policies expect opinion to change again.
As far as I am concerned staying in a customs union is fine with me as no one, least of all Fox, has demonstrated how the UK would achieve the 100 or so trade deals presently with the EU in anything like the time that would not cause serious economic damage.
Fox has been an utter disaster
The key metric is the view of Conservative supporters. Only if they turn against Brexit will there be any change, and I believe they're still solid in favour.
The only way out of this shitshow is to reverse course via another referendum, I accept that.
I also accept that a policy that determines the geopolitical and economic future of the country needs to rest on more than a narrow vote now two years in the past. A vote not carried in several constituent nations of this United Kingdom. A vote which disenfranchised long term expatriates. A vote of which there is good evidence of interference by a hostile power. And a vote which no longer - according to poll after poll - carries the support of the public.
I assume Shadsy will take his markets down before?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_United_Kingdom_European_Union_membership_referendum
Too late to stop Brexit, but... awkward for whoever is in charge then.
Of course you will look for reasons to undermine the legitimacy of the vote. As I say, you only seem to like the concept of democracy when your side wins.
https://twitter.com/mrjamesob/status/991582291997745152?s=21
Last Yougov had a remain lead of +4, Pop +10, Ipsos +3, Opinium -1, Comres +8, TNS -2, Survation +1, Orb +7. Average of +3.75
Today's Yougov: wrong to leave is +3.
It's not the same question of course, but it's the closest we'll get.