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Ladbrokes report a surge in bets over recent days on TMay being replaced as PM this year and make it evens that she won’t survive. There’s 4/1 on offer that a General Election is called this year, or it’s a 9/4 chance the next one happens in 2019.
A tax on those that use self service checkouts ? Genius.
More "thinking" along the same lines as Corbyn's robot tax. Never mind the 1970s, they will be taking us back to the early 19th century.
the manifesto had it that it would be a legal requirement to have a “driver” on the docklands light rail. I personally think we need to bring lift attendents back, I don’t think the public can be trusted to press the correct buttons.
Corbyn's young fans will be in for a hell of shock if he is ever PM.
A tax on those that use self service checkouts ? Genius.
More "thinking" along the same lines as Corbyn's robot tax. Never mind the 1970s, they will be taking us back to the early 19th century.
the manifesto had it that it would be a legal requirement to have a “driver” on the docklands light rail. I personally think we need to bring lift attendents back, I don’t think the public can be trusted to press the correct buttons.
Corbyn's young fans will be in for a hell of shock if he is ever PM.
It won't just be Uber that is gone. With his anti-tech / anti ZHC / high tax, there going to be a lot of businesses that millennials love which won't have a profitable business model.
Devotees of the television series Dr Who will be familiar with the sonic screwdriver — a pocket sized piece of technology that has helped the eponymous hero out of any number of tight spots.
Initially the sonic screwdriver was used mainly to pick locks, but over time it acquired new and remarkable uses. Later Doctors deployed it to hack into computers, disable enemy weaponry and even to destroy a Dalek. No matter how devilish their situation seemed, the sonic screwdriver offered an all-purpose get out of jail free card for scriptwriters.
I do not know if Boris Johnson, Michael Gove and other leading Brexiters are big fans of Dr Who, but there is much evidence of sonic screwdriver strategy in their thinking. Their mystical faith is most obvious in discussions about the Irish border.
Following the discussion from the last thread, as people grow older their lives become smaller, and is complimented by fear of life...change, personal decay, losing capital. And that is what underpins the inexorable shift to right wing philosophies with age more than anything else.
Right wing politics has nothing positive at all to say about anything. It preys on fear and thrives on negativity. That is why something like immigration is a gift that just keeps on giving to the right.
A tax on those that use self service checkouts ? Genius.
More "thinking" along the same lines as Corbyn's robot tax. Never mind the 1970s, they will be taking us back to the early 19th century.
the manifesto had it that it would be a legal requirement to have a “driver” on the docklands light rail. I personally think we need to bring lift attendents back, I don’t think the public can be trusted to press the correct buttons.
Corbyn's young fans will be in for a hell of shock if he is ever PM.
It won't just be Uber that is gone. With his anti-tech / anti ZHC / high tax, there going to be a lot of businesses that millennials love which won't have a profitable business model.
A Corbyn government will be great for manhole cover manufacturers though!
Following the discussion from the last thread, as people grow older their lives become smaller, and is complimented by fear of life...change, personal decay, losing capital. And that is what underpins the inexorable shift to right wing philosophies with age more than anything else.
Right wing politics has nothing positive at all to say about anything. It preys on fear and thrives on negativity. That is why something like immigration is a gift that just keeps on giving to the right.
Tradition, patriotism, family, opportunity, wealth creation, security, law and order, self reliance and responsibility.
9 positive right wing values in less than 30 seconds
A tax on those that use self service checkouts ? Genius.
More "thinking" along the same lines as Corbyn's robot tax. Never mind the 1970s, they will be taking us back to the early 19th century.
the manifesto had it that it would be a legal requirement to have a “driver” on the docklands light rail. I personally think we need to bring lift attendents back, I don’t think the public can be trusted to press the correct buttons.
Corbyn's young fans will be in for a hell of shock if he is ever PM.
Deliveroo is one business I don't get. It seems a very expensive way to get a takeaway from a crap chain restaurant, but then I wasn't effected by the KFC closures nor care if Nando runs out of chicken / Jamie Italian chain goes bust (other than obviously people losing work).
Following the discussion from the last thread, as people grow older their lives become smaller, and is complimented by fear of life...change, personal decay, losing capital. And that is what underpins the inexorable shift to right wing philosophies with age more than anything else.
Right wing politics has nothing positive at all to say about anything. It preys on fear and thrives on negativity. That is why something like immigration is a gift that just keeps on giving to the right.
oh Tyson
Which party had a politician that set out to "scare the white man" to win re-election?
Some of the most racist people I have ever known thought themselves as "progressives" and would never have voted tory in their life.
I don't see a need to get into the anti semitism on the left and the failure of Labour to get to grips with it
Following the discussion from the last thread, as people grow older their lives become smaller, and is complimented by fear of life...change, personal decay, losing capital. And that is what underpins the inexorable shift to right wing philosophies with age more than anything else.
Right wing politics has nothing positive at all to say about anything. It preys on fear and thrives on negativity. That is why something like immigration is a gift that just keeps on giving to the right.
Tradition, patriotism, family, opportunity, wealth creation, security, law and order, self reliance and responsibility.
9 positive right wing values in less than 30 seconds
Deliveroo is one business I don't get. It seems a very expensive way to get a takeaway from a crap chain restaurant, but then I wasn't effected by the KFC closures nor care if Nando runs out of chicken.
Near me the pubs have taken to letting people order food as take out. We've at least five properly good pubs, great food and lovely old school pub buildings.
A tax on those that use self service checkouts ? Genius.
More "thinking" along the same lines as Corbyn's robot tax. Never mind the 1970s, they will be taking us back to the early 19th century.
the manifesto had it that it would be a legal requirement to have a “driver” on the docklands light rail. I personally think we need to bring lift attendents back, I don’t think the public can be trusted to press the correct buttons.
Corbyn's young fans will be in for a hell of shock if he is ever PM.
It won't just be Uber that is gone. With his anti-tech / anti ZHC / high tax, there going to be a lot of businesses that millennials love which won't have a profitable business model.
If Corbyn actually got to be PM, and actually started implementing this stuff, the brain drain would be epic.
Following the discussion from the last thread, as people grow older their lives become smaller, and is complimented by fear of life...change, personal decay, losing capital. And that is what underpins the inexorable shift to right wing philosophies with age more than anything else.
Right wing politics has nothing positive at all to say about anything. It preys on fear and thrives on negativity. That is why something like immigration is a gift that just keeps on giving to the right.
Tradition, patriotism, family, opportunity, wealth creation, security, law and order, self reliance and responsibility.
9 positive right wing values in less than 30 seconds
A tax on those that use self service checkouts ? Genius.
More "thinking" along the same lines as Corbyn's robot tax. Never mind the 1970s, they will be taking us back to the early 19th century.
the manifesto had it that it would be a legal requirement to have a “driver” on the docklands light rail. I personally think we need to bring lift attendents back, I don’t think the public can be trusted to press the correct buttons.
Corbyn's young fans will be in for a hell of shock if he is ever PM.
It won't just be Uber that is gone. With his anti-tech / anti ZHC / high tax, there going to be a lot of businesses that millennials love which won't have a profitable business model.
If Corbyn actually go to be PM, and actually started implementing this stuff, the brain drain would be epic.
His total lack of understanding of business is scary as hell. His crush the city to help the genuine economy reteroic was absolutely bonkers. How am I suppose to gain funding for a new startup if he does that?
Following the discussion from the last thread, as people grow older their lives become smaller, and is complimented by fear of life...change, personal decay, losing capital. And that is what underpins the inexorable shift to right wing philosophies with age more than anything else.
Right wing politics has nothing positive at all to say about anything. It preys on fear and thrives on negativity. That is why something like immigration is a gift that just keeps on giving to the right.
Complemented by fear of death, do you mean?
And what bollocks. The part of the right which thrives on immigration is so fringe it's virtually invisible in the UK and I am sick to death of sneery, purse proud snobs with highly advertised presences in genuinely racist shitholes like France, Italy and Hungary sniping at this country and ignoring what goes on in their own because they are, just like the Kippers with their villas in Spain, Englishmen abroad making a really interesting lifestyle statement, insulated by their UK passports and sterling Visa cards from taking any interest in what "the locals" get up to.
Following the discussion from the last thread, as people grow older their lives become smaller, and is complimented by fear of life...change, personal decay, losing capital. And that is what underpins the inexorable shift to right wing philosophies with age more than anything else.
Right wing politics has nothing positive at all to say about anything. It preys on fear and thrives on negativity. That is why something like immigration is a gift that just keeps on giving to the right.
oh Tyson
Which party had a politician that set out to "scare the white man" to win re-election?
Some of the most racist people I have ever known thought themselves as "progressives" and would never have voted tory in their life.
I don't see a need to get into the anti semitism on the left and the failure of Labour to get to grips with it
Brexit won on immigration. Trump won on immigration. Italy 2018...that’s all they talk about, and why the country is lurching to the right next week.
Immigration is a gift horse to right wing populists.
Deliveroo is one business I don't get. It seems a very expensive way to get a takeaway from a crap chain restaurant, but then I wasn't effected by the KFC closures nor care if Nando runs out of chicken / Jamie Italian chain goes bust (other than obviously people losing work).
KFC being closed has got to be a net good for the nation.
His total lack of understanding of business is scary as hell. His crush the city to help the genuine economy reteroic was absolutely bonkers. How am I suppose to gain funding for a new startup if he does that?
It's merely the next step in Miliband's good business/bad business nonsense.
His total lack of understanding of business is scary as hell. His crush the city to help the genuine economy reteroic was absolutely bonkers. How am I suppose to gain funding for a new startup if he does that?
It's merely the next step in Miliband's good business/bad business nonsense.
Milibands thumb on the scale stuff was based on a now debunked book, it was nonsense but I didn't really believe with Eddie spheroids as chancellor we would see that much. Instead we have a self confessed marxist as potential chancellor.
Following the discussion from the last thread, as people grow older their lives become smaller, and is complimented by fear of life...change, personal decay, losing capital. And that is what underpins the inexorable shift to right wing philosophies with age more than anything else.
Right wing politics has nothing positive at all to say about anything. It preys on fear and thrives on negativity. That is why something like immigration is a gift that just keeps on giving to the right.
Tradition, patriotism, family, opportunity, wealth creation, security, law and order, self reliance and responsibility.
9 positive right wing values in less than 30 seconds
The right uses pretty much all those values in a highly destructive way....tradition, patriotism, family...can all be easily conflated with racism. Security and law and order..enough said. Self reliance, responsibility and wealth creation.....all are generally used devisively to attack people who rely on welfare.
Opportunity.......possibly I’ll give you that, Thatcher had an intuitive understanding of using the concept of opportunity to lure traditional Labour types....
Following the discussion from the last thread, as people grow older their lives become smaller, and is complimented by fear of life...change, personal decay, losing capital. And that is what underpins the inexorable shift to right wing philosophies with age more than anything else.
Right wing politics has nothing positive at all to say about anything. It preys on fear and thrives on negativity. That is why something like immigration is a gift that just keeps on giving to the right.
And yet, for someone who identifies very strongly with the Left, you seemed consumed by darkness yourself, whilst most right-wing posters of your age on here are filled with joie de vivre.
Following the discussion from the last thread, as people grow older their lives become smaller, and is complimented by fear of life...change, personal decay, losing capital. And that is what underpins the inexorable shift to right wing philosophies with age more than anything else.
Right wing politics has nothing positive at all to say about anything. It preys on fear and thrives on negativity. That is why something like immigration is a gift that just keeps on giving to the right.
oh Tyson
Which party had a politician that set out to "scare the white man" to win re-election?
Some of the most racist people I have ever known thought themselves as "progressives" and would never have voted tory in their life.
I don't see a need to get into the anti semitism on the left and the failure of Labour to get to grips with it
Brexit won on immigration. Trump won on immigration. Italy 2018...that’s all they talk about, and why the country is lurching to the right next week.
Immigration is a gift horse to right wing populists.
And yet, the Left can't help themselves opening all the borders to "rub the Right's nose in diversity" - and then losing elections. There's surely a simple answer here.....
Following the discussion from the last thread, as people grow older their lives become smaller, and is complimented by fear of life...change, personal decay, losing capital. And that is what underpins the inexorable shift to right wing philosophies with age more than anything else.
Right wing politics has nothing positive at all to say about anything. It preys on fear and thrives on negativity. That is why something like immigration is a gift that just keeps on giving to the right.
Tradition, patriotism, family, opportunity, wealth creation, security, law and order, self reliance and responsibility.
9 positive right wing values in less than 30 seconds
The right uses pretty much all those values in a highly destructive way....tradition, patriotism, family...can all be easily conflated with racism. Security and law and order..enough said. Self reliance, responsibility and wealth creation.....all are generally used devisively to attack people who rely on welfare.
Opportunity.......possibly I’ll give you that, Thatcher had an intuitive understanding of using the concept of opportunity to lure traditional Labour types....
What a load of guff.
Though, I suppose at least you've conceded that socialism doesn't promise any sort of opportunity.
Deliveroo is one business I don't get. It seems a very expensive way to get a takeaway from a crap chain restaurant, but then I wasn't effected by the KFC closures nor care if Nando runs out of chicken / Jamie Italian chain goes bust (other than obviously people losing work).
When I get fish and chips on a Sunday, I walk one and a half miles to the shop, then either walk or get a minicab back. Deliveroo would save me the walk there and cost me the same as the cab back. Whether there is enough demand to sustain them and their various rivals is open to doubt but I can see the attraction. I'd use them myself but walking to the fish and chip shop is the only exercise I get.
Following the discussion from the last thread, as people grow older their lives become smaller, and is complimented by fear of life...change, personal decay, losing capital. And that is what underpins the inexorable shift to right wing philosophies with age more than anything else.
Right wing politics has nothing positive at all to say about anything. It preys on fear and thrives on negativity. That is why something like immigration is a gift that just keeps on giving to the right.
oh Tyson
Which party had a politician that set out to "scare the white man" to win re-election?
Some of the most racist people I have ever known thought themselves as "progressives" and would never have voted tory in their life.
I don't see a need to get into the anti semitism on the left and the failure of Labour to get to grips with it
Brexit won on immigration. Trump won on immigration. Italy 2018...that’s all they talk about, and why the country is lurching to the right next week.
Immigration is a gift horse to right wing populists.
And yet, the left can't help themselves opening all the borders to "rub the Right's nose in diversity" - and then losing elections. There's surely a simple answer here.....
205 000 non EU migrants to the UK last year suggests right wing governments are notngood at controlling it either. Merkel is Centre Right too...
Following the discussion from the last thread, as people grow older their lives become smaller, and is complimented by fear of life...change, personal decay, losing capital. And that is what underpins the inexorable shift to right wing philosophies with age more than anything else.
Right wing politics has nothing positive at all to say about anything. It preys on fear and thrives on negativity. That is why something like immigration is a gift that just keeps on giving to the right.
Complemented by fear of death, do you mean?
And what bollocks. The part of the right which thrives on immigration is so fringe it's virtually invisible in the UK and I am sick to death of sneery, purse proud snobs with highly advertised presences in genuinely racist shitholes like France, Italy and Hungary sniping at this country and ignoring what goes on in their own because they are, just like the Kippers with their villas in Spain, Englishmen abroad making a really interesting lifestyle statement, insulated by their UK passports and sterling Visa cards from taking any interest in what "the locals" get up to.
No offence.
Good point. Like a non-trivial number of PB Brexiters.
Deliveroo is one business I don't get. It seems a very expensive way to get a takeaway from a crap chain restaurant, but then I wasn't effected by the KFC closures nor care if Nando runs out of chicken / Jamie Italian chain goes bust (other than obviously people losing work).
When I get fish and chips on a Sunday, I walk one and a half miles to the shop, then either walk or get a minicab back. Deliveroo would save me the walk there and cost me the same as the cab back. Whether there is enough demand to sustain them and their various rivals is open to doubt but I can see the attraction. I'd use them myself but walking to the fish and chip shop is the only exercise I get.
My understanding though is deliveroo isn't for random takeways, justEat is the system that connects those to the customer. Deliveroo business model is about getting food from chain restaurants, that don't do takeaway, to consumers at home.
I don't really get this. If I want a good takeaway there are plenty of options and vice versa for restaurants, but then I dont really see what is so attractive of the likes of about nandos.
But then I also don't get Snapchat, fornite or fidget spinners...
Following the discussion from the last thread, as people grow older their lives become smaller, and is complimented by fear of life...change, personal decay, losing capital. And that is what underpins the inexorable shift to right wing philosophies with age more than anything else.
Right wing politics has nothing positive at all to say about anything. It preys on fear and thrives on negativity. That is why something like immigration is a gift that just keeps on giving to the right.
oh Tyson
Which party had a politician that set out to "scare the white man" to win re-election?
Some of the most racist people I have ever known thought themselves as "progressives" and would never have voted tory in their life.
I don't see a need to get into the anti semitism on the left and the failure of Labour to get to grips with it
Brexit won on immigration. Trump won on immigration. Italy 2018...that’s all they talk about, and why the country is lurching to the right next week.
Immigration is a gift horse to right wing populists.
And yet, the left can't help themselves opening all the borders to "rub the Right's nose in diversity" - and then losing elections. There's surely a simple answer here.....
205 000 non EU migrants to the UK last year suggests right wing governments are notngood at controlling it either. Merkel is Centre Right too...
They're all useless at it, yes. Personally I don't mind open borders but most people don't like them.
Deliveroo is one business I don't get. It seems a very expensive way to get a takeaway from a crap chain restaurant, but then I wasn't effected by the KFC closures nor care if Nando runs out of chicken / Jamie Italian chain goes bust (other than obviously people losing work).
When I get fish and chips on a Sunday, I walk one and a half miles to the shop, then either walk or get a minicab back. Deliveroo would save me the walk there and cost me the same as the cab back. Whether there is enough demand to sustain them and their various rivals is open to doubt but I can see the attraction. I'd use them myself but walking to the fish and chip shop is the only exercise I get.
My understanding though is deliveroo isn't for random takeways, justEat is the system that connects those to the customer. Deliveroo business model is about getting food from chain restaurants, that don't do takeaway, to consumers at home.
Deliveroo around these parts is the only way to get something that isn't Indian/Chinese/Thai/Pizza etc delivered. I sometimes get the local posh chippy deliverooed, or a spaghetti vongole from a nice indy Italian place.
Deliveroo is one business I don't get. It seems a very expensive way to get a takeaway from a crap chain restaurant, but then I wasn't effected by the KFC closures nor care if Nando runs out of chicken / Jamie Italian chain goes bust (other than obviously people losing work).
When I get fish and chips on a Sunday, I walk one and a half miles to the shop, then either walk or get a minicab back. Deliveroo would save me the walk there and cost me the same as the cab back. Whether there is enough demand to sustain them and their various rivals is open to doubt but I can see the attraction. I'd use them myself but walking to the fish and chip shop is the only exercise I get.
My understanding though is deliveroo isn't for random takeways, justEat is the system that connects those to the customer. Deliveroo business model is about getting food from chain restaurants, that don't do takeaway, to consumers at home.
Deliveroo around these parts is the only way to get something that isn't Indian/Chinese/Thai/Pizza etc delivered. I sometimes get the local posh chippy deliverooed, or a spaghetti vongole from a nice indy Italian place.
You better prepare for a lot more walking to the chippy / Italian when jezza becomes PM....
"no" to "vote of no confidence" at 8/11 looks like easy money. Like Mike I think she's a stayer (not the same as saying she's actually good at being PM, but full marks for steady determination to hang on).
There's a good fairly short summary of the implications of a hard(ish) Itrish border for exports of farm animals and some wider implications here - interesting that the port of Dublin is already preparing:
- the forum is a spinoff from an animal welfare group - they're non-partisan and neutral on Brexit. We hope to end UK live exports with an exception for Irish border trade - there is a cross-party agreement that it'd be a good idea, and Gove is currently considering options. Irish live exports, however, are big busibess, so care is needed to avoid evasion.
Deliveroo is one business I don't get. It seems a very expensive way to get a takeaway from a crap chain restaurant, but then I wasn't effected by the KFC closures nor care if Nando runs out of chicken / Jamie Italian chain goes bust (other than obviously people losing work).
When I get fish and chips on a Sunday, I walk one and a half miles to the shop, then either walk or get a minicab back. Deliveroo would save me the walk there and cost me the same as the cab back. Whether there is enough demand to sustain them and their various rivals is open to doubt but I can see the attraction. I'd use them myself but walking to the fish and chip shop is the only exercise I get.
My understanding though is deliveroo isn't for random takeways, justEat is the system that connects those to the customer. Deliveroo business model is about getting food from chain restaurants, that don't do takeaway, to consumers at home.
Deliveroo around these parts is the only way to get something that isn't Indian/Chinese/Thai/Pizza etc delivered. I sometimes get the local posh chippy deliverooed, or a spaghetti vongole from a nice indy Italian place.
You better prepare for a lot more walking to the chippy / Italian when jezza becomes PM....
Cripes.
In London, also, some wine shops are on deliveroo. Very handy when we were Air BnBing in Dulwich.
Sure. His reaction to the Imola tragedies in 1994 have undoubtedly save more lives in F1, as did he and Bernie getting Prof Watkins is as F1 medical officer. (Though I also slightly blame Moseley for the Imola deaths, given the sudden rule changes probably contributed to the crashes).
Following the discussion from the last thread, as people grow older their lives become smaller, and is complimented by fear of life...change, personal decay, losing capital. And that is what underpins the inexorable shift to right wing philosophies with age more than anything else.
Right wing politics has nothing positive at all to say about anything. It preys on fear and thrives on negativity. That is why something like immigration is a gift that just keeps on giving to the right.
And yet, for someone who identifies very strongly with the Left, you seemed consumed by darkness yourself, whilst most right-wing posters of your age on here are filled with joie de vivre.
Mate, I get pretty tired with your personal comments. I’d rather you not please make any personal references about me. Please stick to the point that I make rather than making assumptions about my lifestyle or wot not. Ditto Ishmael above.
I don’t mind robust debate like Floater.....you can call me a dickhead if you want, but I really do not care for people making personal assumptions about me. And if I have ever posted anything on this site that has given the impression that I am happy to engage in personal debate, I really didn’t mean that.
Sure. His reaction to the Imola tragedies in 1994 have undoubtedly save more lives in F1, as did he and Bernie getting Prof Watkins is as F1 medical officer. (Though I also slightly blame Moseley for the Imola deaths, given the sudden rule changes probably contributed to the crashes).
But over the current story? Nah.
I reckon Ron Dennis is chuckling at Mosely's demise.
"When I first came to Japan in 1990, I was astonished that the Statute of Limitations for murder was fifteen years in this country. That meant that if the police didn’t arrest a murderer within that time, it would be impossible to charge him with the crime…even if he publicly confessed."
Following the discussion from the last thread, as people grow older their lives become smaller, and is complimented by fear of life...change, personal decay, losing capital. And that is what underpins the inexorable shift to right wing philosophies with age more than anything else.
Right wing politics has nothing positive at all to say about anything. It preys on fear and thrives on negativity. That is why something like immigration is a gift that just keeps on giving to the right.
oh Tyson
Which party had a politician that set out to "scare the white man" to win re-election?
Some of the most racist people I have ever known thought themselves as "progressives" and would never have voted tory in their life.
I don't see a need to get into the anti semitism on the left and the failure of Labour to get to grips with it
Brexit won on immigration. Trump won on immigration. Italy 2018...that’s all they talk about, and why the country is lurching to the right next week.
Immigration is a gift horse to right wing populists.
We are a tolerant country Tyson - more so than some of our European neighbours , but even so you can have too much of a good thing.
I know you have ties to Italy so should be aware of what is going on over there.
It is hardly surprising that immigration is an issue in Italy - there have been high profile shocking sex attacks involving immigrants - including the Brindisi one I referenced the other day - and the ongoing crisis in the Med re economic migration.
I see you ignore my examples of left wing views on immigration.
It is hardly to the lefts credit that it tried to shut down debate on large scale immigration by screaming racist
Another thing about the left, distension from their view not acceptable and control, control, control the order of the day.
Devotees of the television series Dr Who will be familiar with the sonic screwdriver — a pocket sized piece of technology that has helped the eponymous hero out of any number of tight spots.
Initially the sonic screwdriver was used mainly to pick locks, but over time it acquired new and remarkable uses. Later Doctors deployed it to hack into computers, disable enemy weaponry and even to destroy a Dalek. No matter how devilish their situation seemed, the sonic screwdriver offered an all-purpose get out of jail free card for scriptwriters.
I do not know if Boris Johnson, Michael Gove and other leading Brexiters are big fans of Dr Who, but there is much evidence of sonic screwdriver strategy in their thinking. Their mystical faith is most obvious in discussions about the Irish border.
Hard to see how he can not be prosecuted for perjury, in light of Archer and Huhne. I suppose he could argue that it's a convention that as election agent he signs everything off, and the fact it's passed over his desk doesn't mean he has read, or agrees with, it.
But probably not important, this was 20+ years before Agent COB was scrupulously protecting our secrets from the Czech Peril, even, and I'm not sure who it would embarrass (other than Max, obv).
Devotees of the television series Dr Who will be familiar with the sonic screwdriver — a pocket sized piece of technology that has helped the eponymous hero out of any number of tight spots.
Initially the sonic screwdriver was used mainly to pick locks, but over time it acquired new and remarkable uses. Later Doctors deployed it to hack into computers, disable enemy weaponry and even to destroy a Dalek. No matter how devilish their situation seemed, the sonic screwdriver offered an all-purpose get out of jail free card for scriptwriters.
I do not know if Boris Johnson, Michael Gove and other leading Brexiters are big fans of Dr Who, but there is much evidence of sonic screwdriver strategy in their thinking. Their mystical faith is most obvious in discussions about the Irish border.
I'm amazed she still wants to do the bloody job. She gets paid rubbish for it. She gets nothing but abuse from her own side. And even if she gets Brexit more or less through she'll be blamed for evermore.
I'd be tempted to say "Stuff you" the next time BoJo or JRM or whoever starts whingeing, hand over the file and say "You sort it. Good luck. You'll need it." and then sod off for a long walking holiday in the Rockies.
Hard to see how he can not be prosecuted for perjury, in light of Archer and Huhne. I suppose he could argue that it's a convention that as election agent he signs everything off, and the fact it's passed over his desk doesn't mean he has read, or agrees with, it.
But probably not important, this was 20+ years before Agent COB was scrupulously protecting our secrets from the Czech Peril, even, and I'm not sure who it would embarrass (other than Max, obv).
What happened to Phil Woolas agent when Phil got prosecuted? I honestly can't remember.
I'm amazed she still wants to do the bloody job. She gets paid rubbish for it. She gets nothing but abuse from her own side. And even if she gets Brexit more or less through she'll be blamed for evermore.
I'd be tempted to say "Stuff you" the next time BoJo or JRM or whoever starts whingeing, hand over the file and say "You sort it. Good luck. You'll need it." and then sod off for a long walking holiday in the Rockies.
I did like her rather pointed comment / joke last night
"“so self-effacing is Matt, that in this centenary year of female suffrage, the year of Time’s Up and Me Too, he has demonstrated just what a stalwart ally he is, by heroically forcing the female Chairman of the Press Gallery to sit in silence and listen to him speak.”
Following the discussion from the last thread, as people grow older their lives become smaller, and is complimented by fear of life...change, personal decay, losing capital. And that is what underpins the inexorable shift to right wing philosophies with age more than anything else.
Right wing politics has nothing positive at all to say about anything. It preys on fear and thrives on negativity. That is why something like immigration is a gift that just keeps on giving to the right.
And yet, for someone who identifies very strongly with the Left, you seemed consumed by darkness yourself, whilst most right-wing posters of your age on here are filled with joie de vivre.
Mate, I get pretty tired with your personal comments. I’d rather you not please make any personal references about me. Please stick to the point that I make rather than making assumptions about my lifestyle or wot not. Ditto Ishmael above.
I don’t mind robust debate like Floater.....you can call me a dickhead if you want, but I really do not care for people making personal assumptions about me. And if I have ever posted anything on this site that has given the impression that I am happy to engage in personal debate, I really didn’t mean that.
You are happy to make personal comments about others, you just don't like it when the tables are turned.
You once compared me to a murderer and a paedophile because I disagreed with you about fox hunting.
Following the discussion from the last thread, as people grow older their lives become smaller, and is complimented by fear of life...change, personal decay, losing capital. And that is what underpins the inexorable shift to right wing philosophies with age more than anything else.
Right wing politics has nothing positive at all to say about anything. It preys on fear and thrives on negativity. That is why something like immigration is a gift that just keeps on giving to the right.
And yet, for someone who identifies very strongly with the Left, you seemed consumed by darkness yourself, whilst most right-wing posters of your age on here are filled with joie de vivre.
Mate, I get pretty tired with your personal comments. I’d rather you not please make any personal references about me. Please stick to the point that I make rather than making assumptions about my lifestyle or wot not. Ditto Ishmael above.
I don’t mind robust debate like Floater.....you can call me a dickhead if you want, but I really do not care for people making personal assumptions about me. And if I have ever posted anything on this site that has given the impression that I am happy to engage in personal debate, I really didn’t mean that.
You are happy to make personal comments about others, you just don't like it when the tables are turned.
You once compared me to a murderer and a paedophile because I disagreed with you about fox hunting.
Hard to see how he can not be prosecuted for perjury, in light of Archer and Huhne. I suppose he could argue that it's a convention that as election agent he signs everything off, and the fact it's passed over his desk doesn't mean he has read, or agrees with, it.
But probably not important, this was 20+ years before Agent COB was scrupulously protecting our secrets from the Czech Peril, even, and I'm not sure who it would embarrass (other than Max, obv).
What happened to Phil Woolas agent when Phil got prosecuted? I honestly can't remember.
"Where is the hole, after the doughnut is eaten?" - Wittgenstein.
Deliveroo is one business I don't get. It seems a very expensive way to get a takeaway from a crap chain restaurant, but then I wasn't effected by the KFC closures nor care if Nando runs out of chicken / Jamie Italian chain goes bust (other than obviously people losing work).
In principle you get a better meal from Deliveroo than Just Eat because they deal with fine dining (in relative terms) restaurants who see takeaway as another sales channel and don't want to do the delivery themselves. I believe Deliveroo charge those restaurants a 30% commission.
I'm amazed she still wants to do the bloody job. She gets paid rubbish for it. She gets nothing but abuse from her own side. And even if she gets Brexit more or less through she'll be blamed for evermore.
I'd be tempted to say "Stuff you" the next time BoJo or JRM or whoever starts whingeing, hand over the file and say "You sort it. Good luck. You'll need it." and then sod off for a long walking holiday in the Rockies.
It would be fascinating to watch the aftermath. Popcorn might become scarce....
This is the sort of thing why I argue the licence fee is totally broken. The BBC while wed to the telly tax can't compete with the shifts happening in the modern world of content creation.
Murdoch has seen the tectonic plates shifting, and the Sky under new ownership are in an even better position to adapt with the times.
Hard to see how he can not be prosecuted for perjury, in light of Archer and Huhne. I suppose he could argue that it's a convention that as election agent he signs everything off, and the fact it's passed over his desk doesn't mean he has read, or agrees with, it.
But probably not important, this was 20+ years before Agent COB was scrupulously protecting our secrets from the Czech Peril, even, and I'm not sure who it would embarrass (other than Max, obv).
What happened to Phil Woolas agent when Phil got prosecuted? I honestly can't remember.
It's not an election agent issue.
He said during his trial that there was no such leaflet or he was not involved in it. Now we know that there was such a leaflet and that he was involved in it. Depending on precisely what was asked and what he answered - and what other questions he was asked about - the allegation is that he may have lied on oath about the existence of the leaflet rather than about whether he agreed with its contents.
In order to establish perjury, there will need to be a very careful analysis of his evidence in the witness box and the extent to which this new evidence casts doubt on it to the extent that the offence of perjury can be established. That is the issue for the CPS.
The other issue is one for the newspaper i.e. if he did not tell the truth about this leaflet is there a basis on which it can claim that the court's judgment would have been different in that libel trial so that the verdict can be overturned and the damages recovered. It would obviously be easier to do that if he's found guilty of perjury but even if no prosecution is brought the newspaper might still be able to argue that the libel verdict should be set aside.
Regardless of that there is the fact that his somewhat unsavoury past is now being brought to light which is probably not what he wanted or expected.
This is the sort of thing why I argue the licence fee is totally broken. The BBC while wed to the telly tax can't compete with the shifts happening in the modern world of content creation.
Murdoch has seen the tectonic plates shifting, and the Sky under new ownership are in an even better position to adapt with the times.
Netflix and Amazon are providing some great content.
Deliveroo is one business I don't get. It seems a very expensive way to get a takeaway from a crap chain restaurant, but then I wasn't effected by the KFC closures nor care if Nando runs out of chicken / Jamie Italian chain goes bust (other than obviously people losing work).
In principle you get a better meal from Deliveroo than Just Eat because they deal with fine dining (in relative terms) restaurants who see takeaway as another sales channel and don't want to do the delivery themselves. I believe Deliveroo charge those restaurants a 30% commission.
I understand this, but it is probably just me but if I want a really good meal, I am happy to go to the restaurant (+ I get an "experience" with friends / family etc).
Hard to see how he can not be prosecuted for perjury, in light of Archer and Huhne. I suppose he could argue that it's a convention that as election agent he signs everything off, and the fact it's passed over his desk doesn't mean he has read, or agrees with, it.
But probably not important, this was 20+ years before Agent COB was scrupulously protecting our secrets from the Czech Peril, even, and I'm not sure who it would embarrass (other than Max, obv).
What happened to Phil Woolas agent when Phil got prosecuted? I honestly can't remember.
"Where is the hole, after the doughnut is eaten?" - Wittgenstein.
The hole still exists, waiting for the next doughnut to come along.
Remember that time when we woke up to find that the Conservatives had quietly dumped Ian Duncan Smith? What are the chances they will do the same with Brexit?
Deliveroo is one business I don't get. It seems a very expensive way to get a takeaway from a crap chain restaurant, but then I wasn't effected by the KFC closures nor care if Nando runs out of chicken / Jamie Italian chain goes bust (other than obviously people losing work).
In principle you get a better meal from Deliveroo than Just Eat because they deal with fine dining (in relative terms) restaurants who see takeaway as another sales channel and don't want to do the delivery themselves. I believe Deliveroo charge those restaurants a 30% commission.
Having looked at the price differences on Deliveroo compared to the actual restaurant menu, I think it is the customers who pay the 30%.
This is the sort of thing why I argue the licence fee is totally broken. The BBC while wed to the telly tax can't compete with the shifts happening in the modern world of content creation.
Murdoch has seen the tectonic plates shifting, and the Sky under new ownership are in an even better position to adapt with the times.
Netflix and Amazon are providing some great content.
And of course HBO...in the next few weeks alone we have Westworld Season 2 and Silicon Valley returning...while the BBC big budget show was McMafia, that descended into absolute farce.
I also see today that Amazon has signed a deal to distribute UFC PPV streams, and the theory is they are going to bid for the non-PPV coverage when the current deal with Fox expires shortly.
Remember that time when we woke up to find that the Conservatives had quietly dumped Ian Duncan Smith? What are the chances they will do the same with Brexit?
Nil. They need to dump the swivel-eyed Brexit loons first. After that they can ask the EU to stop the process whilst they take a realistic look at things and come up with a coherent plan for either IN or OUT.
If a Deliveroo person is prepared to cycle down from Teesside to bring me a Parmo, then I might be interested. However, it might need reheating by then.
Remember that time when we woke up to find that the Conservatives had quietly dumped Ian Duncan Smith? What are the chances they will do the same with Brexit?
Nil. They need to dump the swivel-eyed Brexit loons first. After that they can ask the EU to stop the process whilst they take a realistic look at things and come up with a coherent plan for either IN or OUT.
A press on the PAUSE button would be ideal. Some very hard thinking to get a coherent plan is urgently needed.
Of course they should have done this before pressing the Article 50 button. God only knows why they didn't. The timing of Article 50 was about the only leverage the UK had.
Remember that time when we woke up to find that the Conservatives had quietly dumped Ian Duncan Smith? What are the chances they will do the same with Brexit?
Nil. They need to dump the swivel-eyed Brexit loons first. After that they can ask the EU to stop the process whilst they take a realistic look at things and come up with a coherent plan for either IN or OUT.
Brexit will happen. It is a decision the country made and that decision must be honoured. We could (and do) argue all day about what flavour of Brexit is best, but a-Brexit we will go.
I would not quite die in a ditch to get a Norway-type deal but that is what the Remainers of varying off-putting character should be agitating for. The biggest lie that needs to be exploded is that staying in the SM/CU is "not leaving".
Remember that time when we woke up to find that the Conservatives had quietly dumped Ian Duncan Smith? What are the chances they will do the same with Brexit?
Nil. They need to dump the swivel-eyed Brexit loons first. After that they can ask the EU to stop the process whilst they take a realistic look at things and come up with a coherent plan for either IN or OUT.
A press on the PAUSE button would be ideal. Some very hard thinking to get a coherent plan is urgently needed.
Of course they should have done this before pressing the Article 50 button. God only knows why they didn't. The timing of Article 50 was about the only leverage the UK had.
As I recall, the only justification for the A50 timing was the Euro elections in March 2019. When combined with the 2 year A50 deadline it meant that if triggered in March 2017 then we could avoid having MEPs who would only serve a part term.
Remember that time when we woke up to find that the Conservatives had quietly dumped Ian Duncan Smith? What are the chances they will do the same with Brexit?
Nil. They need to dump the swivel-eyed Brexit loons first. After that they can ask the EU to stop the process whilst they take a realistic look at things and come up with a coherent plan for either IN or OUT.
Brexit will happen. It is a decision the country made and that decision must be honoured. We could (and do) argue all day about what flavour of Brexit is best, but a-Brexit we will go.
I would not quite die in a ditch to get a Norway-type deal but that is what the Remainers of varying off-putting character should be agitating for. The biggest lie that needs to be exploded is that staying in the SM/CU is "not leaving".
That should be the focus.
The problem with that approach is that almost all the politically active people who pushed for Brexit saw it not as a technical matter of policy, but as an existential matter of national strategy. Therefore it needs to be tested, and judged either to pass the test or to fail it.
Remember that time when we woke up to find that the Conservatives had quietly dumped Ian Duncan Smith? What are the chances they will do the same with Brexit?
Nil. They need to dump the swivel-eyed Brexit loons first. After that they can ask the EU to stop the process whilst they take a realistic look at things and come up with a coherent plan for either IN or OUT.
A press on the PAUSE button would be ideal. Some very hard thinking to get a coherent plan is urgently needed.
Of course they should have done this before pressing the Article 50 button. God only knows why they didn't. The timing of Article 50 was about the only leverage the UK had.
The EU conveniently took away the A50 leverage by refusing to have any talks until A50 was enacted.
Then the EU insisted on 3 issues first (including the Ireland one) before discussing trade.
So that's why we're here and there appears to not be a plan, because the EU response to any UK plan is simply "do what you're told". And that attitude is why we voted for Brexit in the first place.
If a Deliveroo person is prepared to cycle down from Teesside to bring me a Parmo, then I might be interested. However, it might need reheating by then.
‘Gotta get that Nandos delivered!': Deliveroo man slides down a steep hill on his stomach with food strapped to his back
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/mar/01/labour-extends-ken-livingstones-suspension-over-antisemitism-claims
Shocked I tell you!
Initially the sonic screwdriver was used mainly to pick locks, but over time it acquired new and remarkable uses. Later Doctors deployed it to hack into computers, disable enemy weaponry and even to destroy a Dalek. No matter how devilish their situation seemed, the sonic screwdriver offered an all-purpose get out of jail free card for scriptwriters.
I do not know if Boris Johnson, Michael Gove and other leading Brexiters are big fans of Dr Who, but there is much evidence of sonic screwdriver strategy in their thinking. Their mystical faith is most obvious in discussions about the Irish border.
https://www.ft.com/content/2b5894ac-1d2f-11e8-aaca-4574d7dabfb6
Right wing politics has nothing positive at all to say about anything. It preys on fear and thrives on negativity. That is why something like immigration is a gift that just keeps on giving to the right.
9 positive right wing values in less than 30 seconds
"well ... quite"
Which party had a politician that set out to "scare the white man" to win re-election?
Some of the most racist people I have ever known thought themselves as "progressives" and would never have voted tory in their life.
I don't see a need to get into the anti semitism on the left and the failure of Labour to get to grips with it
My advice - go to the pub instead.
If Corbyn actually got to be PM, and actually started implementing this stuff, the brain drain would be epic.
And what bollocks. The part of the right which thrives on immigration is so fringe it's virtually invisible in the UK and I am sick to death of sneery, purse proud snobs with highly advertised presences in genuinely racist shitholes like France, Italy and Hungary sniping at this country and ignoring what goes on in their own because they are, just like the Kippers with their villas in Spain, Englishmen abroad making a really interesting lifestyle statement, insulated by their UK passports and sterling Visa cards from taking any interest in what "the locals" get up to.
No offence.
Immigration is a gift horse to right wing populists.
Silly odds.
Opportunity.......possibly I’ll give you that, Thatcher had an intuitive understanding of using the concept of opportunity to lure traditional Labour types....
Con 297
Lab 279
LD 14
SNP 37
Lab 40.7%
Con 40.5%
http://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/homepage.html
Though, I suppose at least you've conceded that socialism doesn't promise any sort of opportunity.
I don't really get this. If I want a good takeaway there are plenty of options and vice versa for restaurants, but then I dont really see what is so attractive of the likes of about nandos.
But then I also don't get Snapchat, fornite or fidget spinners...
And he was 21 or 22 when he put his name to that leaflet, published on behalf of his father.
There's a good fairly short summary of the implications of a hard(ish) Itrish border for exports of farm animals and some wider implications here - interesting that the port of Dublin is already preparing:
https://uktradeforum.net/2018/03/01/brexit-and-animal-welfare-threats-and-opportunities/
- the forum is a spinoff from an animal welfare group - they're non-partisan and neutral on Brexit. We hope to end UK live exports with an exception for Irish border trade - there is a cross-party agreement that it'd be a good idea, and Gove is currently considering options. Irish live exports, however, are big busibess, so care is needed to avoid evasion.
In London, also, some wine shops are on deliveroo. Very handy when we were Air BnBing in Dulwich.
But over the current story? Nah.
I don’t mind robust debate like Floater.....you can call me a dickhead if you want, but I really do not care for people making personal assumptions about me. And if I have ever posted anything on this site that has given the impression that I am happy to engage in personal debate, I really didn’t mean that.
Interesting:
"When I first came to Japan in 1990, I was astonished that the Statute of Limitations for murder was fifteen years in this country. That meant that if the police didn’t arrest a murderer within that time, it would be impossible to charge him with the crime…even if he publicly confessed."
https://tokyo5.wordpress.com/tag/statute-of-limitations/
https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/03/jeremy-corbyns-custom-union-fantasy/
I know you have ties to Italy so should be aware of what is going on over there.
It is hardly surprising that immigration is an issue in Italy - there have been high profile shocking sex attacks involving immigrants - including the Brindisi one I referenced the other day - and the ongoing crisis in the Med re economic migration.
I see you ignore my examples of left wing views on immigration.
It is hardly to the lefts credit that it tried to shut down debate on large scale immigration by screaming racist
Another thing about the left, distension from their view not acceptable and control, control, control the order of the day.
Hard to see how he can not be prosecuted for perjury, in light of Archer and Huhne. I suppose he could argue that it's a convention that as election agent he signs everything off, and the fact it's passed over his desk doesn't mean he has read, or agrees with, it.
But probably not important, this was 20+ years before Agent COB was scrupulously protecting our secrets from the Czech Peril, even, and I'm not sure who it would embarrass (other than Max, obv).
I'd be tempted to say "Stuff you" the next time BoJo or JRM or whoever starts whingeing, hand over the file and say "You sort it. Good luck. You'll need it." and then sod off for a long walking holiday in the Rockies.
"“so self-effacing is Matt, that in this centenary year of female suffrage, the year of Time’s Up and Me Too, he has demonstrated just what a stalwart ally he is, by heroically forcing the female Chairman of the Press Gallery to sit in silence and listen to him speak.”
Ouch
Some parts of Brexit have their upside
You once compared me to a murderer and a paedophile because I disagreed with you about fox hunting.
So, fuck off, old boy.
Do you often look back and wish you'd retained all the wisdom and experience you had when you were eighteen?
That may give you a clue as to why people's voting patterns as they get older.
Truth is, JRM and co have become dogmatists. Pure and simple.
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-43242057
This is the sort of thing why I argue the licence fee is totally broken. The BBC while wed to the telly tax can't compete with the shifts happening in the modern world of content creation.
Murdoch has seen the tectonic plates shifting, and the Sky under new ownership are in an even better position to adapt with the times.
He said during his trial that there was no such leaflet or he was not involved in it. Now we know that there was such a leaflet and that he was involved in it. Depending on precisely what was asked and what he answered - and what other questions he was asked about - the allegation is that he may have lied on oath about the existence of the leaflet rather than about whether he agreed with its contents.
In order to establish perjury, there will need to be a very careful analysis of his evidence in the witness box and the extent to which this new evidence casts doubt on it to the extent that the offence of perjury can be established. That is the issue for the CPS.
The other issue is one for the newspaper i.e. if he did not tell the truth about this leaflet is there a basis on which it can claim that the court's judgment would have been different in that libel trial so that the verdict can be overturned and the damages recovered. It would obviously be easier to do that if he's found guilty of perjury but even if no prosecution is brought the newspaper might still be able to argue that the libel verdict should be set aside.
Regardless of that there is the fact that his somewhat unsavoury past is now being brought to light which is probably not what he wanted or expected.
The hole still exists, waiting for the next doughnut to come along.
Having looked at the price differences on Deliveroo compared to the actual restaurant menu, I think it is the customers who pay the 30%.
I also see today that Amazon has signed a deal to distribute UFC PPV streams, and the theory is they are going to bid for the non-PPV coverage when the current deal with Fox expires shortly.
Of course they should have done this before pressing the Article 50 button. God only knows why they didn't. The timing of Article 50 was about the only leverage the UK had.
I would not quite die in a ditch to get a Norway-type deal but that is what the Remainers of varying off-putting character should be agitating for. The biggest lie that needs to be exploded is that staying in the SM/CU is "not leaving".
That should be the focus.
Of course, that doesn't make the EU's proposed judicial imperialism other than contemptible.
Not a brilliant justification, but ...
The EU conveniently took away the A50 leverage by refusing to have any talks until A50 was enacted.
Then the EU insisted on 3 issues first (including the Ireland one) before discussing trade.
So that's why we're here and there appears to not be a plan, because the EU response to any UK plan is simply "do what you're told". And that attitude is why we voted for Brexit in the first place.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5449133/Deliveroo-man-slides-icy-hill-stomach.html