I know this is stating the bleeding obvious, but Hitler and his coterie of mindless zealots were really such a bunch of arseholes on every conceivable level. I despise nationalism and jingoistic, numbing patriotism....the likes you see with the pathetic barmy army and Ingerlund, and stupid morons who equate Remainers to traitors.
I'm having a bad day and reading the pbCOM thread isn't helping me...
Well we have both lost a lot of respect for each other today, then. If my aversion to anti-Semitism is juvenile, so be it. I’ll live with that.
An aversion to anti-Semitism is certainly not juvenile. Trying to smear people with the accusation of anti-Semitism when there is absolutely no evidence to support the claim certainly is. You really do need to grow up.
If you do not like the evidence, Richard, that is your problem not mine. Depicting Jews as borderless, secretive bankers acting in the shadows as manipulative puppet masters to subvert democracy are well-established, oft-used anti-Semitic tropes. It’s as simple as that.
I'm with SO on this.
If you (I mean that impersonally) are not anti-Semitic you would do well not to do as anti-Semites do.
I think I'm on the side of SO and yourself, with one caveat: not everyone can know every old trops that anti-Semites use (although I'd expect some, such as the puppeteer ones, to be better known).
However this was an article in a newspaper, written and edited by intelligent people. If they did not realise the ground they were going on, then they're probably not in the right jobs.
Or they probably thought that his religion didn't matter. It is those who are seeking to make political capital out of this who seem to be fixated with his religion.
Urrrm, no. Just no.
The media have power. It's a declining power in this Internet age, but it's still a lot of power. With that power goes responsibility, and that's what this article - I think through mistake rather than malice - lacks.
You might think that reasonable people would in no way make the connection others have. And you are probably correct. But there will be a small percentage for whom it will resonate, and who will take a little comfort from the fact that it's in a respectable newspaper.
It's made much worse by the fact that Soros is well known to have suffered such attacks in the past, so it's feeding into a rich vein of ant-Semitism. It's irresponsible by the Telegraph.
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Garden...can you not just say that it is a really good post instead of the symbol which is on par with grown adults sending little yellow cartoon faces at each other.....
Well we have both lost a lot of respect for each other today, then. If my aversion to anti-Semitism is juvenile, so be it. I’ll live with that.
An aversion to anti-Semitism is certainly not juvenile. Trying to smear people with the accusation of anti-Semitism when there is absolutely no evidence to support the claim certainly is. You really do need to grow up.
If you do not like the evidence, Richard, that is your problem not mine. Depicting Jews as borderless, secretive bankers acting in the shadows as manipulative puppet masters to subvert democracy are well-established, oft-used anti-Semitic tropes. It’s as simple as that.
I'm with SO on this.
If you (I mean that impersonally) are not anti-Semitic you would do well not to do as anti-Semites do.
I think I'm on the side of SO and yourself, with one caveat: not everyone can know every old trops that anti-Semites use (although I'd expect some, such as the puppeteer ones, to be better known).
However this was an article in a newspaper, written and edited by intelligent people. If they did not realise the ground they were going on, then they're probably not in the right jobs.
Or they probably thought that his religion didn't matter. It is those who are seeking to make political capital out of this who seem to be fixated with his religion.
Urrrm, no. Just no.
The media have power. It's a declining power in this Internet age, but it's still a lot of power. With that power goes responsibility, and that's what this article - I think through mistake rather than malice - lacks.
You might think that reasonable people would in no way make the connection others have. And you are probably correct. But there will be a small percentage for whom it will resonate, and who will take a little comfort from the fact that it's in a respectable newspaper.
It's made much worse by the fact that Soros is well known to have suffered such attacks in the past, so it's feeding into a rich vein of ant-Semitism. It's irresponsible by the Telegraph.
+ 1
Garden...can you not just say that it is a really good post instead of the symbol which is on par with grown adults sending little yellow cartoon faces at each other.....
Well we have both lost a lot of respect for each other today, then. If my aversion to anti-Semitism is juvenile, so be it. I’ll live with that.
An aversion to anti-Semitism is certainly not juvenile. Trying to smear people with the accusation of anti-Semitism when there is absolutely no evidence to support the claim certainly is. You really do need to grow up.
If you do not like the evidence, Richard, that is your problem not mine. Depicting Jews as borderless, secretive bankers acting in the shadows as manipulative puppet masters to subvert democracy are well-established, oft-used anti-Semitic tropes. It’s as simple as that.
I'm with SO on this.
If you (I mean that impersonally) are not anti-Semitic you would do well not to do as anti-Semites do.
I think I'm on the side of SO and yourself, with one caveat: not everyone can know every old trops that anti-Semites use (although I'd expect some, such as the puppeteer ones, to be better known).
However this was an article in a newspaper, written and edited by intelligent people. If they did not realise the ground they were going on, then they're probably not in the right jobs.
Or they probably thought that his religion didn't matter. It is those who are seeking to make political capital out of this who seem to be fixated with his religion.
Urrrm, no. Just no.
The media have power. It's a declining power in this Internet age, but it's still a lot of power. With that power goes responsibility, and that's what this article - I think through mistake rather than malice - lacks.
You might think that reasonable people would in no way make the connection others have. And you are probably correct. But there will be a small percentage for whom it will resonate, and who will take a little comfort from the fact that it's in a respectable newspaper.
It's made much worse by the fact that Soros is well known to have suffered such attacks in the past, so it's feeding into a rich vein of ant-Semitism. It's irresponsible by the Telegraph.
+ 1
Garden...can you not just say that it is a really good post instead of the symbol which is on par with grown adults sending little yellow cartoon faces at each other.....
Yes. It was a fantastic post, which articulated my thoughts better than I could.
Well we have both lost a lot of respect for each other today, then. If my aversion to anti-Semitism is juvenile, so be it. I’ll live with that.
An aversion to anti-Semitism is certainly not juvenile. Trying to smear people with the accusation of anti-Semitism when there is absolutely no evidence to support the claim certainly is. You really do need to grow up.
If you do not like the evidence, Richard, that is your problem not mine. Depicting Jews as borderless, secretive bankers acting in the shadows as manipulative puppet masters to subvert democracy are well-established, oft-used anti-Semitic tropes. It’s as simple as that.
I'm with SO on this.
If you (I mean that impersonally) are not anti-Semitic you would do well not to do as anti-Semites do.
I think I'm on the side of SO and yourself, with one caveat: not everyone can know every old trops that anti-Semites use (although I'd expect some, such as the puppeteer ones, to be better known).
However this was an article in a newspaper, written and edited by intelligent people. If they did not realise the ground they were going on, then they're probably not in the right jobs.
Or they probably thought that his religion didn't matter. It is those who are seeking to make political capital out of this who seem to be fixated with his religion.
Urrrm, no. Just no.
The media have power. It's a declining power in this Internet age, but it's still a lot of power. With that power goes responsibility, and that's what this article - I think through mistake rather than malice - lacks.
You might think that reasonable people would in no way make the connection others have. And you are probably correct. But there will be a small percentage for whom it will resonate, and who will take a little comfort from the fact that it's in a respectable newspaper.
It's made much worse by the fact that Soros is well known to have suffered such attacks in the past, so it's feeding into a rich vein of ant-Semitism. It's irresponsible by the Telegraph.
+ 1
Garden...can you not just say that it is a really good post instead of the symbol which is on par with grown adults sending little yellow cartoon faces at each other.....
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I know this is stating the bleeding obvious, but Hitler and his coterie of mindless zealots were really such a bunch of arseholes on every conceivable level. I despise nationalism and jingoistic, numbing patriotism....the likes you see with the pathetic barmy army and Ingerlund, and stupid morons who equate Remainers to traitors.
I'm having a bad day and reading the pbCOM thread isn't helping me...
Garden...can you not just say that it is a really good post instead of the symbol which is on par with grown adults sending little yellow cartoon faces at each other.....
Including the mistake rather than malice point.
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Do you remember when it was just mad mullahs calling for the death of their ideological enemies?