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edited September 2013 in General

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Natalie Gumede was installed as the favourite for Strictly, because she has some training as a dancer in the past, the same type of experience helped Denise Van Outen finish third last year and Kara Tointon win in 2010. Previous dance experience helps in this show.

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  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 33,912
    edited September 2013
    Two new Australian polls (might have been reported earlier):

    Newspoll: Coalition 54%-46%

    Nielsen: Coalition 53.5%-46.5%

    http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2013/09/07/newspoll-and-nielsen-54-46-morgan-53-5-46-5/
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,305
    Ed Miliband "It was right that he went as he was becoming a distraction." Ed spells out why Watson stepped down.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23186851

    Must be a case of follow the money. POEMWAS. Will he be rehiring Watson? Looks like utter horlicks c. Jack Straw.
  • NextNext Posts: 826
    tim said:

    Can't think why you liked that freeze frame
    Almost like Daves face when he's urging Barack to stay firm.

    The freeze frame is usually automatically chosen by the video hosting. Don't think you can blame TSE for that one.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    dr_spyn said:

    Will he be rehiring Watson? Looks like utter horlicks c. Jack Straw.

    It's hard to imagine a way in which Ed's handling of this affair could be worse, but rehiring Tom Watson might just be the magic ticket.

    It's nearly as bad as his Syria cockup.
  • NextNext Posts: 826
    Scott_P said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Will he be rehiring Watson? Looks like utter horlicks c. Jack Straw.

    It's hard to imagine a way in which Ed's handling of this affair could be worse, but rehiring Tom Watson might just be the magic ticket.

    It's nearly as bad as his Syria cockup.
    Ed's preparing his blank sheet of paper.

    It's now titled "How to win enemies and annoy people".
  • stodgestodge Posts: 14,292
    Evening all :)

    I wish I had a view on Strictly Come Dancing but it's up there with Scottish Independence and the minutiae of internal Labour party politics.

    It may interest others but I really couldn't give a proverbial...

    I thought the Faeroes might nick a draw against Kazakhstan and got on at 7/2 but no joy. I'll stick to the horses from now on.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Next said:


    Ed's preparing his blank sheet of paper.

    It's now titled "How to win enemies and annoy people".

    @TelePolitics Blog: Evening Briefing: Putin stands by Assad http://tgr.ph/17WimrL

    And Ed stands by Putin...
  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071
    @stodge I also have no interest whatsoever in it and have never watched it. I do however strongly approve of TSE's ingenious and unexpected betting threads. Long may they continue.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 14,292
    GeoffM said:

    @stodge I also have no interest whatsoever in it and have never watched it. I do however strongly approve of TSE's ingenious and unexpected betting threads. Long may they continue.

    Well said, Geoff, and very true. I'm afraid even TSE has failed to engender an interest but, as you say, full marks for effort.

  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,207
    edited September 2013
    stodge said:

    GeoffM said:

    @stodge I also have no interest whatsoever in it and have never watched it. I do however strongly approve of TSE's ingenious and unexpected betting threads. Long may they continue.

    Well said, Geoff, and very true. I'm afraid even TSE has failed to engender an interest but, as you say, full marks for effort.

    Click on the video and watch it the whole way through, and you may change your mind.
  • Northern Ireland leading Portugal 2-1
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Ed has swiftly and decisively shut down the Falkirk non-story. No lingering resentment. No festering sores threatening to burst.

    @tom_watson
    After the decision over Falkirk, I'm sure @jimmurphymp would wish to retract his comments about the role of @unitetheunion.
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207
    Just when you thought Ed couldn't look any more out of his depth .......

    He surprises to the downside yet again.

    Awesome!
  • Won't be betting on this, but she could wrap her legs around my neck any time!
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207
    valleyboy said:

    Won't be betting on this, but she could wrap her legs around my neck any time!

    Ok, that got my attention
  • And I apologise to any Welsh Rugby fans I've upset with this thread

    ::Innocent face::
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,756
    Scott_P said:

    Ed has swiftly and decisively shut down the Falkirk non-story. No lingering resentment. No festering sores threatening to burst.

    @tom_watson
    After the decision over Falkirk, I'm sure @jimmurphymp would wish to retract his comments about the role of @unitetheunion.

    Just to cheer you up the Bus manufacturer where Eck launched his economic manifesto for Scotland has just voted to go on strike.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-23987526

    Unite's the union taking action. In Falkirk.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453


    Just to cheer you up the Bus manufacturer where Eck launched his economic manifesto for Scotland has just voted to go on strike.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-23987526

    Unite's the union taking action. In Falkirk.

    Unite are also threatening a strike hitting beer deliveries. Sandwiches only at the next Labour conference...
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 33,912
    Australian polls open in less than two hours...
  • Interesting piece, Mr. Eagles. Must admit to being pissed with Strictly as back when Snowdon was a contestant I stood to make (for me, with £2 stakes) quite a lot. But then they fiddled their own system so Tom Chambers, who should've been eliminated, got through to the final, and I made a small sum rather than a large one (for me).

    May back the top girl you mention, though I've never heard of her.
  • “Who enjoys Strictly Come Dancing as much as he enjoys The Eurovision Song Contest,”

    Me – can’t stand either of them. ;-)
  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,320
    Definitely a worthy debate that will challenge the UKIP orthodoxy in the UK in particular.

    Tomorrow's Telegraph Leader - Britain must remain an outward-looking nation

    "Yet the taunt hit home because we fear its element of truth. Doubtless there are people who would like to retreat behind the walls of our island fastness; but that has never been the British way. We have always been an outward-looking nation and must remain so. Mr Cameron’s task on his return is to rise above the self-referential navel-gazing that has become a hallmark of our modern political discourse and articulate that global vision. An American politician once said we had lost an empire but had yet to find a role. It would seem that is still true today."
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    I have had a punt on Susanna Reid

    N.B. This is a bet. Not a prediction. This is not the start of a BBC Breakfast surge. Smart readers will understand this.
  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,320
    edited September 2013
    LOL Will they have to hold a ballot and a whip around to see who will be in charge of the booze run this time. Be far quicker than asking Ed Miliband to produce a decision or position on this any time soon. And when he finally did make a decision, no doubt someone in the Shadow Cabinet would come along and over ride him by threatening to resign if he didn't go back on it. :)
    Scott_P said:


    Just to cheer you up the Bus manufacturer where Eck launched his economic manifesto for Scotland has just voted to go on strike.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-23987526

    Unite's the union taking action. In Falkirk.

    Unite are also threatening a strike hitting beer deliveries. Sandwiches only at the next Labour conference...
  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071


    May back the top girl you mention, though I've never heard of her.

    Mr Dancer, you intend to bet on something you have no idea about in order to offset your bad F1 season ... a topic on which ....hmmm [strokes beard] :)

  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    fitalass said:

    LOL Will they have to hold a ballot and a whip around to see who will be in charge of the booze run this time.

    No, Len will tell Ed to go. And pay for it.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,305
    edited September 2013
    Mr. M, you bounder, you cad, your scurrilous rogue of dubious moral probity!

    It is a bad season so far. Worth stating that (not counting 2009 as that was incomplete) I was behind in 2010 as well (should've been flat, but I increased my stakes and then started getting bets wrong).

    Ahead on tennis, though.
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    edited September 2013
    Great Britons, Great Speeches

    When the French Ambassador stated that the Dauphin rejected Henry V's claims on French territory and titles as the misdirected folly of youth and presented Henry with a gift of tennis balls so that he may indulge his thirst for competition in harmless games, Henry V (with Shakespeare's assistance) replied:

    We are glad the Dauphin is so pleasant with us;
    His present and your pains we thank you for:
    When we have march'd our rackets to these balls,
    We will, in France, by God's grace, play a set
    Shall strike his father's crown into the hazard.
    ...
    And tell the pleasant prince this mock of his
    Hath turn'd his balls to gun-stones; and his soul
    Shall stand sore charged for the wasteful vengeance
    That shall fly with them: for many a thousand widows
    Shall this his mock mock out of their dear husbands;
    Mock mothers from their sons, mock castles down;
    And some are yet ungotten and unborn
    That shall have cause to curse the Dauphin's scorn.


    When Queen Elizabeth I was counselled against taking on the Spanish Armada in 1588, she reviewed and addressed the Earl of Leicester's troops at Tilbury:

    My loving people, we have been persuaded by some that are careful of our safety, to take heed how we commit ourself to armed multitudes for fear of treachery; but I assure you, I do not desire to live to distrust my faithful and loving people ... I know I have the body but of a weak and feeble woman, but I have the heart and stomach of a king, and of a King of England too, and think foul scorn that Parma or Spain, or any Prince of Europe should dare to invade the borders of my realm.

    When French Marshal Philippe Pétain, future leader of the collaborationist Vichy French government who was convinced that Germany would successfully invade Britain as it had done France, sneered to Winston Churchill that in three weeks Britain would "have its neck wrung like a chicken", Churchill later replied:

    "When I warned them that Britain would fight on alone whatever they did, their generals told their Prime Minister and his divided Cabinet, 'In three weeks England will have her neck wrung like a chicken.' Some chicken! Some neck!" [Ottawa, Dec. 30, 1941]

    When Vladimir Putin's spokesman, Dmitri Peskov, mocked Britain by saying it was “just a small island … no one pays any attention to them”, David Cameron responded:

    "Britain is an island that has helped to clear the European continent of fascism and was resolute in doing that throughout the Second World War.

    Britain is an island that helped to abolish slavery, that has invented most of the things worth inventing, including every sport currently played around the world, that still today is responsible for art, literature and music that delights the entire world.

    We are very proud of everything we do as a small island - a small island that has the sixth-largest economy, the fourth best-funded military, some of the most effective diplomats, the proudest history, one of the best records for art and literature and contribution to philosophy and world civilisation.
  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071

    Ahead on tennis, though.

    Glad to hear it! I jest, as you well know, and greatly enjoy your F1 blog.

    Anyway, your betting is safe from cruel mocking eyes as @Scott_P (for it is he) has made a bet prediction on this thread which will be thrown back at him by his creepy stalker for years to come.

    Us humble punters (and I did very nicely on the Kempton donkeys today, as it happens) luckily have him as a shield :)
  • Jest, you say? Each wicked word is a malicious barb in my soul, Mr. M!

    Whilst displeased with how things are going, I had a pretty good 2011 and even better 2012, and, as Miyamoto Musashi observed, in nature all things entail rising and falling.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,756
    tim said:

    Have Belgium got more world class players in one squad than England have produced in 30 years?

    @phil_strickley: Jesus!! #Belgium http://t.co/g1ACdTRtUE

    Proper fans too.

    Good to see you follow the Villa just like Cameron. Did you go to school with him ?
  • Scott_P said:

    I have had a punt on Susanna Reid

    N.B. This is a bet. Not a prediction. This is not the start of a BBC Breakfast surge. Smart readers will understand this.

    Not a betting man myself, but I also fancy Susanna Reid. I always watch Breakfast when she's on :)
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,756
    tim said:

    tim said:

    Have Belgium got more world class players in one squad than England have produced in 30 years?

    @phil_strickley: Jesus!! #Belgium http://t.co/g1ACdTRtUE

    Proper fans too.

    Good to see you follow the Villa just like Cameron. Did you go to school with him ?
    Not a Villa fan, and my knowledge of history isn't as poor as Daves so no.
    Sorry too busy laughing at Cameron's speech being set to music.
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 6,483
    edited September 2013
    SeanT said:


    It was a fumbling "speech" by Cameron. Silly and embarrassing. He should have dismissed Russia with one short, nasty quip.

    "Britain is a small island, maybe that explains why we've never found space for Gulags. Next question?"

    Instead, we built concentration camps in South Africa.

  • Eagles - that's a bit of a cop-out, backing 5 "horses" in the Strictly field, which of course reduces your would-be winning odds alarmingly.

    I'm going for just the very fragrant Rachel Riley, not only because she happens to be the best looking, but she's also the brightest of the bunch.

    What do these qualities have to do with her dancing skills?

    Pass.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Ed has swiftly and decisively buried the Falkirk bad news

    @Markfergusonuk: After this, the clamour for the Labour Party to reveal the #falkirk report is going to get louder http://t.co/CBeMestiG5
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    SeanT said:

    This whole Syria f*ck-up is a glimpse of what the end-of-the-American century will look like.

    American hegemony is over. It is palpable.

    and if it's a Russia,china and iran century,it must be on the cards a third world war.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,751
    This thread is about a TV program isn't it?

    Laters.
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    edited September 2013
    tim said:

    @Avery

    You're going to post the One Direction speech by the castrato porpoise aren't you, in response to an unknown official.

    Your wish is my command. Here is one for TSE too.

    Caesar has defeated Pompey in Egypt and is with his troops on the banks of the Nile. Pompey has survived and his wife and son plead to Caesar for clemency and his life. Caesar agrees provided Pompey presents himself in person.

    Ptolemy, co-ruler of Egypt with Cleopatra, seeking to ingratiate himself with Caesar and to save his kingdom, orders his general, Achilla, to find and apprehend Pompey.

    Achilla arrives carrying a casket enclosing Pompey's head which he presents to Caesar as a gift from Ptolemy and Cleopatra.

    Caesar being a ruler in the Great British tradition is not amused.

    He sings an aria of anger, "Empio, dirò, tu sei", criticising this breach of humanitarian norms:

    Written for a castrato, here it is in sung in English by one of our finest sopranos, Janet Baker, at the ENO in 1984.

    Britain and Caesar taking their usual stand against the barbarism of the south mediterranean coast.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe0kF1CpAuE


  • SeanT said:

    This whole Syria f*ck-up is a glimpse of what the end-of-the-American century will look like.

    American hegemony is over. It is palpable.

    and if it's a Russia,china and iran century,it must be on the cards a third world war.
    Should there be a 3rd World War it won't be anyone's century!
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362

    SeanT said:

    This whole Syria f*ck-up is a glimpse of what the end-of-the-American century will look like.

    American hegemony is over. It is palpable.

    and if it's a Russia,china and iran century,it must be on the cards a third world war.
    Should there be a 3rd World War it won't be anyone's century!
    True.

  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071


    and if it's a Russia,china and iran century,it must be on the cards a third world war.

    They would be the major players but we'll need the Hun to start it off for old times sake.



  • I'm going for just the very fragrant Rachel Riley, not only because she happens to be the best looking,

    Susanna Reid!
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    Kris Hopkins @khopkinsmp

    @Andrew4Pendle Good to hear that a Labour councillor has joined Pendle Conservatives. Milliband's weak leadership is destroying his party.

  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    The majority who vote in tv talent contests are girlies or gay men. They do not vote for the pretty girls they vote for the pretty boys.

    Apart from sopie ellis bextor who sang a great dance track, i have not heard of any of these people or seen them dance. Nonetheless i would suggest betting on Ben Cohen as hunky boys get the votes of hormonal people with nothing to do on a Saturday night!

    Eagles - that's a bit of a cop-out, backing 5 "horses" in the Strictly field, which of course reduces your would-be winning odds alarmingly.

    I'm going for just the very fragrant Rachel Riley, not only because she happens to be the best looking, but she's also the brightest of the bunch.

    What do these qualities have to do with her dancing skills?

    Pass.

  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Swift. Decisive.

    @PeteWishart: Labour clear Labour of any Labour irregularities in the Labour party in Falkirk. #labour

    Non-story successfully buried.


  • I'm going for just the very fragrant Rachel Riley, not only because she happens to be the best looking,

    Susanna Reid!
    Disagree, but then it's all in the eye of the beholder. I feel sure Ms Reid is on the show only because someone from "Breakfast" gets the nod every year - it enables the Beeb to promote it ad nauseam.
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815

    Kris Hopkins @khopkinsmp

    @Andrew4Pendle Good to hear that a Labour councillor has joined Pendle Conservatives. Milliband's weak leadership is destroying his party.

    It will be IOS and RedRag next.

    Nick Palmer will switch to the Greens.

    tim needs a little more time.

    Southam Observer will go down with the ship.

  • The only conclusion we can take from the whole Syria intervention débâcle and the Falkirk feck up, is that Britain is badly served by it's mainstream politicians. They're only interested in party first.
    Cameron has shown himself to be shallow, impetuous, a headline chaser. Clegg is just invisible and as for Milliband, well, God help us if he gets to number 10.

    As for Strictly, Natalie Lowe is injured, so it's not worth watching.
  • GeoffM said:


    and if it's a Russia,china and iran century,it must be on the cards a third world war.

    They would be the major players but we'll need the Hun to start it off for old times sake.

    Worth remembering that at the start of 1900, all the newspaper editorials were waxing lyrical about how the British century was at a close, and the German century was just beginning!

    Made sense at the time - a populous and very "modern" country (in its new constitutional form, about 30 years of age) with strong economic growth and an industrial lead in several key areas (e.g. dyes and chemicals).

    While it turned out to be the American century after all, it was Germany's attempts at a rise that drove many of the most devastating events of the first half of the century.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 20,105
    @Scott.

    Have you got Tourettes? Seriously? Every time I visit the site you've posted something with the line "Non Story". If it's a non story why don't you stop typing it and find a dark room where your your tics wont bother everyone else....
  • AveryLP said:

    Kris Hopkins @khopkinsmp

    @Andrew4Pendle Good to hear that a Labour councillor has joined Pendle Conservatives. Milliband's weak leadership is destroying his party.

    It will be IOS and RedRag next.

    Nick Palmer will switch to the Greens.

    tim needs a little more time.

    Southam Observer will go down with the ship.

    Note: The subject Avery continues to have his delusional world manipulated successfully.
  • CarolaCarola Posts: 1,805
    Which old bloke and fat woman are competing this year?
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    tim is the woman spurned by Daves datenights and Georges pasties.Methinks he does protest too much and eventually his dammed up.adoration will be displayed in a tory love fest.

    Either that or I am getting a bit pissed on some left over Malmsey.
    AveryLP said:

    Kris Hopkins @khopkinsmp

    @Andrew4Pendle Good to hear that a Labour councillor has joined Pendle Conservatives. Milliband's weak leadership is destroying his party.

    It will be IOS and RedRag next.

    Nick Palmer will switch to the Greens.

    tim needs a little more time.

    Southam Observer will go down with the ship.

  • SeanT said:

    Can we please not have any more threads on Strictly Come Dancing?

    I thank and honour TSE for his noble stewardship of PB during the absence of our genial host, but, really, many of us come to PB to escape the inanity of mainstream petit bourgeois TV culture.

    Ugh.

    Oh I don't know, it makes a pleasant change from arguing endlessly and pointlessly about Syria.

    As someone once said, you can always reach for the off button if you don't like what's on offer.
  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,320
    Twitter
    Gerry Braiden ‏@GerryBraiden 7m
    Scottish Labour politician charged with attempting to pervert the course of justice. Details @TheHeraldPaper tomorrow
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    I get driven out of the living room by moronic talent contests most Saturdays. Unfortunately the young foxes in soxes are fans.

    Much better to listen to Craig Charles soul and funk show on 6music in the kitchen!
    SeanT said:

    SeanT said:

    Can we please not have any more threads on Strictly Come Dancing?

    I thank and honour TSE for his noble stewardship of PB during the absence of our genial host, but, really, many of us come to PB to escape the inanity of mainstream petit bourgeois TV culture.

    Ugh.

    Oh I don't know, it makes a pleasant change from arguing endlessly and pointlessly about Syria.

    As someone once said, you can always reach for the off button if you don't like what's on offer.
    I like pleasant diversions. Clearly. I like popular culture. But the collision of naff gayness and wanky upper working classness and de haut en bas Pretend We Like This Shit Guardianista crapola that is "Strictly Come Dancing"?

    Emetic.
  • GrandioseGrandiose Posts: 2,323
    tim said:

    Kris Hopkins @khopkinsmp

    @Andrew4Pendle Good to hear that a Labour councillor has joined Pendle Conservatives. Milliband's weak leadership is destroying his party.

    Any details?
    We all know that local defections are usually due to personal differences.
    Cllr Abdul Aziz, apparently. Listed as an independent here which does make local differences seem more likely.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 33,912
    edited September 2013
    The polling stations in Australia have just opened in the east of the country.

    Target list:

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0At91c3wX1Wu5dERmb2NsbmpUNmlyOHplOTNOTE9iZVE#gid=0
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    SeanT said:

    Actually, I've just seen Cameron's speech set to music and I have changed my mind 180 degrees (something hitherto unknown)

    It was quite good. Well done that man.

    *hoists flag*

    It grows on you with repeated listening.

    I expect it will be the cause of many Labour councillor defections.

  • TSE has accurately predicted 4 out of the last 5 winners? Pah! That's nothing. I've predicted 22 out of the last five winners.
  • SeanT said:


    It probably would have been the German century, or at least German half-century, if they hadn't overwhelmingly self-harmed, as a nation, with WW1 and then WW2.

    Of course it looks so "obvious" now, in retrospect, that the USA was sneaking up on the inside lane. At the time, the two country's had quite similar populations (the USA was somewhat larger, and was experiencing mass migration, but there was also migration from Poland to Germany, and some prospect of further German territorial expansion). The USA also had a fair lead economically, both per capita, and to a larger extent, on aggregate. Yet the historical and technological momentum seemed to be with Germany.

    The obsession with prestigious colonial expansion clearly didn't help Germany very much, and it is a bit of a wonder that after the devastation of the two world wars the country remains one of the most advanced and desirably liveable societies in the world, but not a great surprise that its global influence (beyond Europe) is so far reduced.

    It does make me wonder when so many of the pundits talk of the upcoming "Chinese Century" that they might be backing the wrong horse. A century's a long time for things to change, and turning a backwards economy into a successful post-industrial one is pretty hard. I think you've said before that a politically united Europe would be a serious force to be reckoned with. I don't know if the demographics hold out on that, but economically and culturally the European bloc undeniably has some serious potential clout. India has a lot of people, a well-educated and globally-connected elite, 60 years of cultivating alliances around the world, and some positive demographics. I'm sure China is justly the pundits' favourite, but if I'm about in twenty years time it'd be interesting to see which way things are pointing by then.
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    tim said:

    Grandiose said:

    tim said:

    Kris Hopkins @khopkinsmp

    @Andrew4Pendle Good to hear that a Labour councillor has joined Pendle Conservatives. Milliband's weak leadership is destroying his party.

    Any details?
    We all know that local defections are usually due to personal differences.
    Cllr Abdul Aziz, apparently. Listed as an independent here which does make local differences seem more likely.
    Sounds like he went from Labour to Independent and has now gone Tory,I'm sure it's a comment on the leadership of one or the other at national level.
    Looks like he could be independent councillor and a labour party member,who left the party.

    Andrew Stephenson MP ✔ @Andrew4Pendle

    Delighted to welcome @PendleBC Cllr Abdul Aziz to @PendleTories joining after leaving @UKLabour pic.twitter.com/per9EBjb9s



  • RogerRoger Posts: 20,105
    edited September 2013
    I think Tony Blair is Ed's secret weapon. I just heard him saying we made a big mistake not invading Syria. He then suggested we move to Iran. You really couldn't make it up. ! thought it was Rory Bremner doing a spoof
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 33,912
    tim said:

    Andy_JS said:

    The polling stations in Australia have just opened in the east of the country.

    Target list:

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0At91c3wX1Wu5dERmb2NsbmpUNmlyOHplOTNOTE9iZVE#gid=0

    That's the most interesting bit,and that bit isn't interesting.

    I love elections because bizarre things sometimes happen.

    I think it was Lynton Crosby who was in charge of a regional election campaign in Australia about 15 years ago where one party was supposed to be winning by miles but somehow the other party managed to pull it out of the bag.
  • MrJonesMrJones Posts: 3,523

    SeanT said:

    This whole Syria f*ck-up is a glimpse of what the end-of-the-American century will look like.

    American hegemony is over. It is palpable.

    and if it's a Russia,china and iran century,it must be on the cards a third world war.
    American power is built on sand because their banksta elite offshored the American industrial base for their own personal financial benefit.

    Now with most of the world lined up against them and most of their own population and that of their few remaining allies against them as well American hegemony will suddenly go pop out of the blue when their bluff is finally called - so a whimper not a bang imo.

    The world afterwards will go back to the way it was with a lot of competing regional powers and lots of small wars.
  • AveryLP said:

    When French Marshal Philippe Pétain, future leader of the collaborationist Vichy French government who was convinced that Germany would successfully invade Britain as it had done France, sneered to Winston Churchill that in three weeks Britain would "have its neck wrung like a chicken", Churchill later replied...

    Not Pétain, but General Weygand, French Commander-in-Chief.

  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    tim said:

    AveryLP said:

    SeanT said:

    Actually, I've just seen Cameron's speech set to music and I have changed my mind 180 degrees (something hitherto unknown)

    It was quite good. Well done that man.

    *hoists flag*

    It grows on you with repeated listening.

    I expect it will be the cause of many Labour councillor defections.

    As Dave claimed Britain had swept fascism from Europe can we assume his history/geography lessons didn't include Spain and Portugal, arguably Greece too.

    Those education misselling cases are stacking up.
    No, he didn't.

    Stick to the facts. You're still usually wrong, but at least it's less embarassing than to fib continually.
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,305
    Thank goodness for SCD, it means that I am able to make a strategic retreat to prepared positions to listen to complete Bruckner Symphonies or what ever piece I want to listen to in silence. Though access to Youtube and itunes does help...

    I used to loathe that programme but it does have some advantages.
  • MrJonesMrJones Posts: 3,523
    Roger said:

    I think Tony Blair is Ed's secret weapon. I just heard him saying we made a big mistake not invading Syria. He then suggested we move to Iran. You really couldn't make it up. ! thought it was Rory Bremner doing a spoof

    The pro-chaos lobby would be a lot better off getting rid of Blair now he's become a liability. In fact, they could do it with Chilcot as that still hasn't completed after what seems like 200 years. There'll be a percentage of non-interveners who are mostly motivated by annoyance over the dodgy dossier so dealing with that would knock maybe 5% off the "strongly against" causing more chaos in the middle-east camp.

    Personal stirring obviously but also true.
  • The next tranche of Conservative selections:

    Bath
    Plymouth Moor View
    Croydon South
    Newark
    Tonbridge and Malling

    So they are now starting to select on safe seats too.
  • Can some techie advise me why I can post here my lap top, but I cannot post on here using my ipad? (not that anyone reads my posts)
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    During the Seventies I thought they were crap. Compared with nineties and noughties they were a golden age. Not as good as the eighties though, the heyday of good music and pre HIV sexual mores. Even had some politics red in tooth and claw rather than todays effete softies. Good times!

    SeanT said:

    I get driven out of the living room by moronic talent contests most Saturdays. Unfortunately the young foxes in soxes are fans.

    Much better to listen to Craig Charles soul and funk show on 6music in the kitchen!


    SeanT said:

    SeanT said:

    Can we please not have any more threads on Strictly Come Dancing?

    I thank and honour TSE for his noble stewardship of PB during the absence of our genial host, but, really, many of us come to PB to escape the inanity of mainstream petit bourgeois TV culture.

    Ugh.

    Oh I don't know, it makes a pleasant change from arguing endlessly and pointlessly about Syria.

    As someone once said, you can always reach for the off button if you don't like what's on offer.
    I like pleasant diversions. Clearly. I like popular culture. But the collision of naff gayness and wanky upper working classness and de haut en bas Pretend We Like This Shit Guardianista crapola that is "Strictly Come Dancing"?

    Emetic.
    I loathe with a homicidal passion ALL of these talent shows. They remind me of the worst aspects of being a child in the boring England of the 1970s, forced to watch shit like this - when all the adults were wife-swapping.

    *cough*

    *maybe some personal issues here*

    Thank F for the multifarious world of the 2010s. The world is so much better than it was, in so many ways.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 33,912
    ABC News live blog on Australian election day:

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-09-07/election-day-live/4942328
  • MrJonesMrJones Posts: 3,523
    valleyboy said:

    Can some techie advise me why I can post here my lap top, but I cannot post on here using my ipad? (not that anyone reads my posts)

    The NSA values every word.

  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 33,912
    edited September 2013
    Maybe SeanT could return to Australia soon to write a piece on the Land Of Abbott.
  • Last time I tried, I was unable to log in using the ipads. I don't think I was entering the wrong password as I tried various times.
    valleyboy said:

    Can some techie advise me why I can post here my lap top, but I cannot post on here using my ipad?

  • tim said:


    As Dave claimed Britain had swept fascism from Europe can we assume his history/geography lessons didn't include Spain and Portugal, arguably Greece too.

    Not sure about "Spain was fascist". At a personal level Franco certainly wasn't, a fact which caused him some problems in the internal politics of the Civil War. I'm sure most PBers are aware of the complexities on the Republican side - the kind of dispute and bloodshed that Orwell recounted - but there were issues among the rebels too, who did not represent a politically homogeneous bloc. Franco's rise to power is indicative of his ability to effectively mange those political difficulties.

    Franco was allied to the fascists both internally and externally, but didn't follow the ideology and was more of a Catholic traditionalist and would-be autocrat himself. After winning the war, he effectively subsumed the Spanish fascists inside his Nationalist coalition and kept a thumb on them. So while fascist politicians took part in the Spanish government, it wasn't a fascist state, didn't throw its lot in with the cause of global fascism during WWII, and the overall political direction was Carlist. Like the Greek colonels, it was a deeply unpleasant regime, but it wasn't "fascist" in the ideological sense.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,207
    edited September 2013
    Re problems with iPads.

    I think there's a vanilla/safari issue.

    Logging in via chrome seems to be ok on an iPad.
  • Roger said:

    I think Tony Blair is Ed's secret weapon. I just heard him saying we made a big mistake not invading Syria. He then suggested we move to Iran. You really couldn't make it up. ! thought it was Rory Bremner doing a spoof


    I actually think Tony Blair is insane. Maybe those devil posters with the red eyes were right on the mark.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 20,105
    @Fitilaas

    "Daily Mail - 'Being nice to Iran is not a policy': Labour heavyweights slam Ed Miliband over Syria with even Tony Blair saying he got it wrong"

    I've just read the article and can't understand a word. Who exactly is supporting what?

    Fitalass?
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,685
    edited September 2013
    PB could be run like Strictly.

    Everyone's posts could be numbered 0-10 in terms of likeability.

    Each week the person with the lowest score could be kicked out of the competition (would be Tim first obviously)

    The winner at the end of the year could get the POTY glitterball!
  • Re problems with iPads.

    I think there's a vanilla/safari issue.

    Logging in via chrome seems to be ok on an iPad.

    Re problems with iPads.

    I think there's a vanilla/safari issue.

    Logging in via chrome seems to be ok on an iPad.

    Re problems with iPads.

    I think there's a vanilla/safari issue.

    Logging in via chrome seems to be ok on an iPad.

    Will try using skyfire. Thanks

  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815

    AveryLP said:

    When French Marshal Philippe Pétain, future leader of the collaborationist Vichy French government who was convinced that Germany would successfully invade Britain as it had done France, sneered to Winston Churchill that in three weeks Britain would "have its neck wrung like a chicken", Churchill later replied...

    Not Pétain, but General Weygand, French Commander-in-Chief.

    My apologies, Richard.

    All cheese eating surrender monkeys look the same to me.

    Is this Weygand?

    http://bit.ly/17WKKKz
  • philiphphiliph Posts: 4,705
    GIN1138 said:

    PB could be run like Strictly.

    The winner at the end of the year could get the POTY glitterball!

    Potty, I think by the end of the year.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 20,105
    @Valleyboy

    "(not that anyone reads my posts)"

    Well I do. The Tories on here have a button devised by Edwin which means they don't have to read non Tory posts.

    Sorry I can't answer your question about Ipads
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,685
    I love Australian elections. They always seem much more dramatic than dreary UK one's with even sitting Prime Ministers being at risk of getting thrown out.

    Will Rudd face the same fate he inflicted on John Howard? How ironic that would be.
  • AveryLP said:


    Is this Weygand?

    http://bit.ly/17WKKKz

    No, not enough medals.
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    dr_spyn said:

    Thank goodness for SCD, it means that I am able to make a strategic retreat to prepared positions to listen to complete Bruckner Symphonies or what ever piece I want to listen to in silence. Though access to Youtube and itunes does help...

    I used to loathe that programme but it does have some advantages.

    The great thing about listening to Bruckner is that you can pop out to the kitchen, make yourself a cup of coffee, steal a biscuit or two, come back and you've missed nothing.

  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 33,912
    edited September 2013
    I used to use Safari most of the time but switched to Camino when PB started using Vanilla.

    I still have the problem where the website tries to reload itself every few seconds which means it keeps sending you to the top of the page.
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    Andy_JS said:

    ABC News live blog on Australian election day:

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-09-07/election-day-live/4942328

    Andy

    What are the rules on exit polls and counting?

    Will it all be silent until 11.00 tomorrow (UK time)?

  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 33,912
    Australia's number one election anorak Antony Green asks Australians to send in their election leaflets to libraries so they can be kept for posterity:

    http://blogs.abc.net.au/antonygreen/2013/09/do-your-bit-for-history-at-the-2013-election.html#more
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 33,912
    "Exit poll: Labor leads London Aussie vote but swing is to Liberals":

    http://www.australiantimes.co.uk/feature/labor-leads-australian-london-vote-despite-swing-to-liberals.htm
  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,320
    edited September 2013
    Twitter
    Michael Savage ‏@michaelsavage 1m
    So Labour internal tussle now out in the open, at least. Ed Miliband has some battles on his hands. Starting with big TUC speech next week.

    CCHQ Press Office ‏@RicHolden 7m
    VIDEO: Ed Miliband's weak u-turn is 'a very significant victory for Unite union' says Eric Joyce, MP for Falkirk: http://www.itv.com/news/story/201
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,305
    @averyLP heretic.

    ... good job there is a radio in the kitchen.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 33,912
    edited September 2013
    Julian Assange is hoping to win a seat in the Australian Senate.

    I wonder if he would be allowed to leave the Venezuelan embassy if he were elected?

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/election-2013/julian-assange-confident-of-winning-senate-seat-participating-in-debate/story-fn9qr68y-1226706293203
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    tim said:

    AveryLP said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Thank goodness for SCD, it means that I am able to make a strategic retreat to prepared positions to listen to complete Bruckner Symphonies or what ever piece I want to listen to in silence. Though access to Youtube and itunes does help...

    I used to loathe that programme but it does have some advantages.

    The great thing about listening to Bruckner is that you can pop out to the kitchen, make yourself a cup of coffee, steal a biscuit or two, come back and you've missed nothing.

    You can teach a child to read during a Yes live album
    Surely that can only be done in a spare bedroom?

  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 33,912
    AveryLP said:

    Andy_JS said:

    ABC News live blog on Australian election day:

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-09-07/election-day-live/4942328

    Andy

    What are the rules on exit polls and counting?

    Will it all be silent until 11.00 tomorrow (UK time)?

    I don't know offhand. Had a search but it seems to be surprisingly difficult to find out the answer.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 33,912
    Last time independent Andrew Wilkie came from third place to win in Denison:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_of_Denison#Election_results
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