Has something happened tonight? Just finished watching The Death Of Stalin.
What did you think of that? It was bleak, with some comic moments. Thought Simon Russel Beale's Beria helped carry the film. Was surprised to read that some critics claimed it was too serious a topic for a comedy.
It is rather disturbing, even for a black comedy, because of the underlying facts.
All the major characters were well played, Beria in particular though Zhukov too.
Not sure Defence Sec would be new member of Cabinet.
Remember Cameron statement that Defence Sec must always be a senior member of the Cabinet - he criticised Labour for passing Defence Sec around too much and giving it to people too junior.
OK, May is not Cameron - but suspect she will be conscious of above thinking.
So more likely current Cabinet Minister gets promoted and then new person comes in at more junior level.
Has something happened tonight? Just finished watching The Death Of Stalin.
What did you think of that? It was bleak, with some comic moments. Thought Simon Russel Beale's Beria helped carry the film. Was surprised to read that some critics claimed it was too serious a topic for a comedy.
It is rather disturbing, even for a black comedy, because of the underlying facts.
All the major characters were well played, Beria in particular though Zhukov too.
The whole subject seemed ripe for farce to me
Indeed - that that whole area is so serious and dark makes it even more so, it sounds like.
Has something happened tonight? Just finished watching The Death Of Stalin.
What did you think of that? It was bleak, with some comic moments. Thought Simon Russel Beale's Beria helped carry the film. Was surprised to read that some critics claimed it was too serious a topic for a comedy.
Agreed about Simon Russel Beale. It was a bit like the Tory cabinet - but with guns.
Not sure Defence Sec would be new member of Cabinet.
Remember Cameron statement that Defence Sec must always be a senior member of the Cabinet - he criticised Labour for passing Defence Sec around too much and giving it to people too junior.
OK, May is not Cameron - but suspect she will be conscious of above thinking.
So more likely current Cabinet Minister gets promoted and then new person comes in at more junior level.
Dave's biggest issue was that whilst the UK was fighting two wars, the Defence Secretary was also concurrently Scotland Secretary.
So more likely current Cabinet Minister gets promoted and then new person comes in at more junior level.
Thta's a reshuffle, which they have already denied.
one in, one out
When is a reshuffle not a reshuffle I wonder. I think you're right how it'llplay out, but it would be possible to say 'no wider reshuffle' but still end up moving a few cabinet ministers around in musical chairs, as you would only be moving those directly related to filling the post you had to replace eg say Transport to Defence, Local government to transport, and newby at local government.
Yes, that is a reshuffle, but it isn't as much of one as widescale moves.
I would be careful of making this party political. Because from what various people have been saying, harrassment doesn't restrict itself to particular political beliefs. Nor is it unique to politics.
I think that's right. FWIW, Labour has urged the police to investigate and instituted its own investigation by an independent non-party member into the official alleged to have urged a cover-up. Not sure what else they can reasonably do at this stage: it certainly doesn't feel like an attempt to bury it, since both investigations will lead to a result. But I'm also not claiming that Labour is better - in any party you get a few people who behave atrociously plus a good many more who behave dubiously. All you can really do is jump on it when it happens.
As opposed to several years later, after initially trying to cover it up ?
Bit early to say the Tories have plunged into new sleaze crisis though - so far there's been, what, 2 confirmed instances? I'll grant the resignation gives it weight, but let's save the sleaze crisis talk until we've heard something a bit more substantive.
As opposed to several years later, after initially trying to cover it up ?
Quite. I'm including the official who is said to have urged her not to raise it when I say that some people in every party behave atrociously. It's not currently alleged that more than one person urged her to keep it quiet - but let's see what the investigations produce.
45% of UK trade is not covered by trade with the EU/EEA or any EU trade deal, indeed the EU does not have a trade deal with the UK's largest national trading partner, the USA, or the world's second largest economy, China.
On Defence Sec, surely it's got to be Mordaunt - she's vaguely capable (not that it seems to matter these days), has the respect of forces having served and the optics are too good. Another woman breaking up the boys club, and one that's relatively well known having done reality TV.
The interesting question is who's next? Depending on what he has actually done or not done beyond what we know, Fallon may have unintentionally lowered the bar for resignation. It was a problem for Blair in that in the earlier 'whiter than white' phase he and Alastair Campbell fired people for the merest hint of impropriety - which haunted Labour later when any mishap was leapt on as grounds for dismissal and became a huge ongoing story.
45% of UK trade is not covered by trade with the EU/EEA or any EU trade deal, indeed the EU does not have a trade deal with the UK's largest national trading partner, the USA, or the world's second largest economy, China.
Five-sixths of UK trade is with the UK, of course. Only a sixth is exports.
As opposed to several years later, after initially trying to cover it up ?
Quite. I'm including the official who is said to have urged her not to raise it when I say that some people in every party behave atrociously. It's not currently alleged that more than one person urged her to keep it quiet - but let's see what the investigations produce.
Fair enough. It does seem that the systems for dealing with complaints, such as they are, for all of our political parties, are an incoherent mess.
On Defence Sec, surely it's got to be Mordaunt - she's vaguely capable (not that it seems to matter these days), has the respect of forces having served and the optics are too good. Another woman breaking up the boys club, and one that's relatively well known having done reality TV.
Mourdant would change the former Remain/Leave balance on the cabinet committees.
On Defence Sec, surely it's got to be Mordaunt - she's vaguely capable (not that it seems to matter these days), has the respect of forces having served and the optics are too good. Another woman breaking up the boys club, and one that's relatively well known having done reality TV.
The interesting question is who's next? Depending on what he has actually done or not done beyond what we know, Fallon may have unintentionally lowered the bar for resignation. It was a problem for Blair in that in the earlier 'whiter than white' phase he and Alastair Campbell fired people for the merest hint of impropriety - which haunted Labour later when any mishap was leapt on as grounds for dismissal and became a huge ongoing story.
45% of UK trade is not covered by trade with the EU/EEA or any EU trade deal, indeed the EU does not have a trade deal with the UK's largest national trading partner, the USA, or the world's second largest economy, China.
Five-sixths of UK trade is with the UK, of course. Only a sixth is exports.
Making hardcore Remainer wailing even less significant.
The Fallon resignation is undeniably odd - I'm going, because of what I did... but I'm not going to tell you what it was.
"fallen below the high standards that we require of the armed forces..."
??
"a number of allegations are swirling around, and many of them are obviously false..."
???
Most opaque resignation statement ever ?
It also conveys an oddly courtly view of the armed forces - we can reasonably argue that most soldiers are brave, or perhaps daring, but are they noticeably chaste? My father's family were traditionally military. I wouldn't have said that the ones I knew would have been greatly disturbed by the odd knee-pat.
Hopefully women can suss some way of eliminating men in the future...we are just a bunch of useless fuckwits on the whole. Even metro sexual men who eat quinoa, and walk around with babies hanging from them just look odd. And then we have Nigel Farage......
@jimwaterson: I'm sure Twitter will have a great time watching the panel of men discuss how they can't touch women nowadays on BBC2 Newsnight right now.
Hopefully women can suss some way of eliminating men in the future...we are just a bunch of useless fuckwits on the whole. Even metro sexual men who eat quinoa, and walk around with babies hanging from them just look odd. And then we have Nigel Farage......
Now men have pretty much invented everything women could possibly need perhaps they have outlived their usefulness as you say?!
Hopefully women can suss some way of eliminating men in the future...we are just a bunch of useless fuckwits on the whole. Even metro sexual men who eat quinoa, and walk around with babies hanging from them just look odd. And then we have Nigel Farage......
But we are good at putting up shelves. And assembling Ikea furniture?
Newsnight is having a whole debate on 'the trouble with men' on BBC2 now
Predictable
The 'patriarchy' needs to change apparently.
Does anyone else remember Viz's Millie Tant character? 2017 is basically that.
Millie Tant even then was a dinosaur and a joke, just as roger Mellie was a joke, and young boys did not wander the hillsides with their loyal binbag. Her kind of Feminism belongs to a different era. As does the kind of man who likes to "cop a quick feel". Consensual sex, in all its varied forms is "in". Which is why, for all the outrage there are swinging clubs in every City.
Beggars belief that Fallon obviously still thinks that what he did was acceptable 15 years ago and it's just that society has changed and he can no longer get away with it.
Hopefully women can suss some way of eliminating men in the future...we are just a bunch of useless fuckwits on the whole. Even metro sexual men who eat quinoa, and walk around with babies hanging from them just look odd. And then we have Nigel Farage......
Men tend to have the highest and lowest IQs, women tend towards the average, if you eliminate men you would lose a lot of the extremes but also a lot of geniuses too.
Beggars belief that Fallon obviously still thinks that what he did was acceptable 15 years ago and it's just that society has changed and he can no longer get away with it.
Newsnight is having a whole debate on 'the trouble with men' on BBC2 now
Predictable
The 'patriarchy' needs to change apparently.
Does anyone else remember Viz's Millie Tant character? 2017 is basically that.
'She is a caricature of a left-wing militant feminist. She thinks of herself as a champion of "wimmin's" rights but is often self-centred and dismissive of the feelings of others. She rants, raises her fist in the air and foams at the mouth. She often refers to men as "phallocrats" and "potential rapists" or just "rapists", referring to other women as "fellow lesbians" regardless of their sexual orientation. Most of the storylines seem to indicate sexual frustration.' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millie_Tant
Newsnight is having a whole debate on 'the trouble with men' on BBC2 now
Predictable
The 'patriarchy' needs to change apparently.
Does anyone else remember Viz's Millie Tant character? 2017 is basically that.
Millie Tant even then was a dinosaur and a joke, just as roger Mellie was a joke, and young boys did not wander the hillsides with their loyal binbag. Her kind of Feminism belongs to a different era. As does the kind of man who likes to "cop a quick feel". Consensual sex, in all its varied forms is "in". Which is why, for all the outrage there are swinging clubs in every City.
There are simply loads of ways to get laid nowdays which don't involve getting drunk and groping.
Hopefully women can suss some way of eliminating men in the future...we are just a bunch of useless fuckwits on the whole. Even metro sexual men who eat quinoa, and walk around with babies hanging from them just look odd. And then we have Nigel Farage......
Now men have pretty much invented everything women could possibly need perhaps they have outlived their usefulness as you say?!
I cannot think of any gender that can produce something as revolting as Nigel Farage...that one specimen deserves the rest of it's gender to be eliminated by association.....
FAO Pulpstar...Theresa May has a great set of pins too, and quite a pleasant face for a lass of her age......
Hopefully women can suss some way of eliminating men in the future...we are just a bunch of useless fuckwits on the whole. Even metro sexual men who eat quinoa, and walk around with babies hanging from them just look odd. And then we have Nigel Farage......
But we are good at putting up shelves. And assembling Ikea furniture?
Newsnight is having a whole debate on 'the trouble with men' on BBC2 now
Predictable
The 'patriarchy' needs to change apparently.
Does anyone else remember Viz's Millie Tant character? 2017 is basically that.
Millie Tant even then was a dinosaur and a joke, just as roger Mellie was a joke, and young boys did not wander the hillsides with their loyal binbag. Her kind of Feminism belongs to a different era. As does the kind of man who likes to "cop a quick feel". Consensual sex, in all its varied forms is "in". Which is why, for all the outrage there are swinging clubs in every City.
I witnessed earlier this week, a female "friend" on Facebook savagely berate a man for "hijacking the #metoo campaign" and "making it all about men" - his crime - speaking out for the first time about how he was sexually assaulted by a man when he was younger.
I used to think Millie Tant was a joke. I'm not laughing any more.
I’m a militant feminist by some PBers standards, given that I pretty much agreed with most of what was said in that debate (aside from the old men, whose opinions I strongly disagreed with).
Hopefully women can suss some way of eliminating men in the future...we are just a bunch of useless fuckwits on the whole. Even metro sexual men who eat quinoa, and walk around with babies hanging from them just look odd. And then we have Nigel Farage......
But we are good at putting up shelves. And assembling Ikea furniture?
Hopefully women can suss some way of eliminating men in the future...we are just a bunch of useless fuckwits on the whole. Even metro sexual men who eat quinoa, and walk around with babies hanging from them just look odd. And then we have Nigel Farage......
Now men have pretty much invented everything women could possibly need perhaps they have outlived their usefulness as you say?!
I cannot think of any gender that can produce something as revolting as Nigel Farage...that one specimen deserves the rest of it's gender to be eliminated by association.....
FAO Pulpstar...Theresa May has a great set of pins too, and quite a pleasant face for a lass of her age......
No, Tyson, it doesn't work like that. It takes both genders to produce a Nigel Farage
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Remember Cameron statement that Defence Sec must always be a senior member of the Cabinet - he criticised Labour for passing Defence Sec around too much and giving it to people too junior.
OK, May is not Cameron - but suspect she will be conscious of above thinking.
So more likely current Cabinet Minister gets promoted and then new person comes in at more junior level.
"...sexual harassment, which means (to put it honestly) advances made by an unattractive man"
http://archive.spectator.co.uk/article/16th-april-2005/20/shameless-and-loveless
"fallen below the high standards that we require of the armed forces..."
??
"a number of allegations are swirling around, and many of them are obviously false..."
???
Most opaque resignation statement ever ?
https://www.gov.uk/government/ministers
one in, one out
Yes, that is a reshuffle, but it isn't as much of one as widescale moves.
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/925847346189041664
http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/756237/politics-brexit-liam-fox-free-trade-deals-global-britain
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/761650/Liam-Fox-trade-agreements-Brexit-European-Union
http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/759712/brexit-trade-deals-liam-fox-toronto-canada-speech-britain-us-canada-lead-world-liberty
"Fallon his sword"
The interesting question is who's next? Depending on what he has actually done or not done beyond what we know, Fallon may have unintentionally lowered the bar for resignation. It was a problem for Blair in that in the earlier 'whiter than white' phase he and Alastair Campbell fired people for the merest hint of impropriety - which haunted Labour later when any mishap was leapt on as grounds for dismissal and became a huge ongoing story.
It does seem that the systems for dealing with complaints, such as they are, for all of our political parties, are an incoherent mess.
Which does no one any good.
Are we serious ?!
Sorry for existing guys.
Hopefully women can suss some way of eliminating men in the future...we are just a bunch of useless fuckwits on the whole. Even metro sexual men who eat quinoa, and walk around with babies hanging from them just look odd. And then we have Nigel Farage......
@daisymcandrew: @jimwaterson Watch #afterthenews - entirely female panel!
@jimwaterson: @daisymcandrew Ummmmmmmmmmm.
https://twitter.com/afterthenewsitv/status/925851889731801088
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.136387553
Pretty much every election where my side has lost has clearly been interfered with by Putin and his predecessors....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millie_Tant
FAO Pulpstar...Theresa May has a great set of pins too, and quite a pleasant face for a lass of her age......
I used to think Millie Tant was a joke. I'm not laughing any more.
The person who I think was guilty of mansplaining today though was Michael White. But he’s been a mess for sometime now.