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This morning alongside Matthew Shaddick (Shadsy) of Ladbrokes I’ll be giving evidence before the Lords Committee that’s investigating political polling particularly in view of what happened at GE17.
Apologies for the negativity but.... I really don't think polling/election predictions/psephology is something the lords should consider official business. Leave it to the electoral commission/BPC etc.
There's an insane amount of really difficult, dull but essential brexit scrutiny for the lords to be getting on with. They should be working overtime on economic impact assessments and whatnot.
Hope the day goes well, anyway. I don't blame you for accepting the invitation!
The couple of times I've seen you on TV you came across pretty well.
There's an insane amount of really difficult, dull but essential brexit scrutiny for the lords to be getting on with. They should be working overtime on economic impact assessments and whatnot.
Are you sure about that, Mr Pong? There ought to be, of course, but I have the impression that Mrs May`s government doesn`t have a clue, has made no progress, so there is nothing about Brexit for the Lords to be scrutinising.
Apologies for the negativity but.... I really don't think polling/election predictions/psephology is something the lords should consider official business. Leave it to the electoral commission/BPC etc.
There's an insane amount of really difficult, dull but essential brexit scrutiny for the lords to be getting on with. They should be working overtime on economic impact assessments and whatnot.
Hope the day goes well, anyway. I don't blame you for accepting the invitation!
The couple of times I've seen you on TV you came across pretty well.
I tend to agree. Unless there's a view that polling is being used to manipulate elections - and I don't - then it really is none of their concern.
The Lords committees are exceptionally polite -they will not give you a difficult time. I'm told that typically a third of the committee is exceptionally bright and well-informed, a third somnolent or even distracted, and a third somewhere in between. But I'd expect you to enjoy it.
Apologies for the negativity but.... I really don't think polling/election predictions/psephology is something the lords should consider official business. Leave it to the electoral commission/BPC etc.
There's an insane amount of really difficult, dull but essential brexit scrutiny for the lords to be getting on with. They should be working overtime on economic impact assessments and whatnot.
Hope the day goes well, anyway. I don't blame you for accepting the invitation!
The couple of times I've seen you on TV you came across pretty well.
It's of political interest because of the view that polls should be banned in the final week(s), as in many other countries.
Apologies for the negativity but.... I really don't think polling/election predictions/psephology is something the lords should consider official business. Leave it to the electoral commission/BPC etc.
There's an insane amount of really difficult, dull but essential brexit scrutiny for the lords to be getting on with. They should be working overtime on economic impact assessments and whatnot.
Hope the day goes well, anyway. I don't blame you for accepting the invitation!
The couple of times I've seen you on TV you came across pretty well.
It's of political interest because of the view that polls should be banned in the final week(s), as in many other countries.
Apologies for the negativity but.... I really don't think polling/election predictions/psephology is something the lords should consider official business. Leave it to the electoral commission/BPC etc.
There's an insane amount of really difficult, dull but essential brexit scrutiny for the lords to be getting on with. They should be working overtime on economic impact assessments and whatnot.
Hope the day goes well, anyway. I don't blame you for accepting the invitation!
The couple of times I've seen you on TV you came across pretty well.
It's of political interest because of the view that polls should be banned in the final week(s), as in many other countries.
Apologies for the negativity but.... I really don't think polling/election predictions/psephology is something the lords should consider official business. Leave it to the electoral commission/BPC etc.
There's an insane amount of really difficult, dull but essential brexit scrutiny for the lords to be getting on with. They should be working overtime on economic impact assessments and whatnot.
Hope the day goes well, anyway. I don't blame you for accepting the invitation!
The couple of times I've seen you on TV you came across pretty well.
It's of political interest because of the view that polls should be banned in the final week(s), as in many other countries.
Apologies for the negativity but.... I really don't think polling/election predictions/psephology is something the lords should consider official business. Leave it to the electoral commission/BPC etc.
There's an insane amount of really difficult, dull but essential brexit scrutiny for the lords to be getting on with. They should be working overtime on economic impact assessments and whatnot.
Hope the day goes well, anyway. I don't blame you for accepting the invitation!
The couple of times I've seen you on TV you came across pretty well.
The useless bunch of farts have little to do for their £300 a day plus free scoff and bevvy, hotels etc. They need to find something to do till the bars open.
Apologies for the negativity but.... I really don't think polling/election predictions/psephology is something the lords should consider official business. Leave it to the electoral commission/BPC etc.
There's an insane amount of really difficult, dull but essential brexit scrutiny for the lords to be getting on with. They should be working overtime on economic impact assessments and whatnot.
Hope the day goes well, anyway. I don't blame you for accepting the invitation!
The couple of times I've seen you on TV you came across pretty well.
It's of political interest because of the view that polls should be banned in the final week(s), as in many other countries.
Apologies for the negativity but.... I really don't think polling/election predictions/psephology is something the lords should consider official business. Leave it to the electoral commission/BPC etc.
There's an insane amount of really difficult, dull but essential brexit scrutiny for the lords to be getting on with. They should be working overtime on economic impact assessments and whatnot.
Hope the day goes well, anyway. I don't blame you for accepting the invitation!
The couple of times I've seen you on TV you came across pretty well.
It's of political interest because of the view that polls should be banned in the final week(s), as in many other countries.
Apologies for the negativity but.... I really don't think polling/election predictions/psephology is something the lords should consider official business. Leave it to the electoral commission/BPC etc.
There's an insane amount of really difficult, dull but essential brexit scrutiny for the lords to be getting on with. They should be working overtime on economic impact assessments and whatnot.
Hope the day goes well, anyway. I don't blame you for accepting the invitation!
The couple of times I've seen you on TV you came across pretty well.
It's of political interest because of the view that polls should be banned in the final week(s), as in many other countries.
I note that the boundary commission revised proposals are good for the LibDems in St Albans. Removing London Colney and adding Woodside from Watford borough.
Personally I see no problem. I've had friends who were everything from BNP to Trots: what counts is that one thinks they are primarily well-intentioned, even if they've come to strange and even unpleasant conclusions. PB works on much the same assumption, doesn't it?
Apologies for the negativity but.... I really don't think polling/election predictions/psephology is something the lords should consider official business. Leave it to the electoral commission/BPC etc.
There's an insane amount of really difficult, dull but essential brexit scrutiny for the lords to be getting on with. They should be working overtime on economic impact assessments and whatnot.
Hope the day goes well, anyway. I don't blame you for accepting the invitation!
The couple of times I've seen you on TV you came across pretty well.
It's of political interest because of the view that polls should be banned in the final week(s), as in many other countries.
There is also the view, often expressed here, that bad polls misled voters into believing that protest votes for Labour were safe, thus robbing the Conservative Party of the landslide victory it so thoroughly deserved.
Apologies for the negativity but.... I really don't think polling/election predictions/psephology is something the lords should consider official business. Leave it to the electoral commission/BPC etc.
There's an insane amount of really difficult, dull but essential brexit scrutiny for the lords to be getting on with. They should be working overtime on economic impact assessments and whatnot.
Hope the day goes well, anyway. I don't blame you for accepting the invitation!
The couple of times I've seen you on TV you came across pretty well.
It's of political interest because of the view that polls should be banned in the final week(s), as in many other countries.
Apologies for the negativity but.... I really don't think polling/election predictions/psephology is something the lords should consider official business. Leave it to the electoral commission/BPC etc.
There's an insane amount of really difficult, dull but essential brexit scrutiny for the lords to be getting on with. They should be working overtime on economic impact assessments and whatnot.
Hope the day goes well, anyway. I don't blame you for accepting the invitation!
The couple of times I've seen you on TV you came across pretty well.
The useless bunch of farts have little to do for their £300 a day plus free scoff and bevvy, hotels etc. They need to find something to do till the bars open.
They could try, ooh, I don't know - examing tax legislation to fill in the loopholes? Save a few billions and they will have less problems with getting the £300 a day....
Personally I see no problem. I've had friends who were everything from BNP to Trots: what counts is that one thinks they are primarily well-intentioned, even if they've come to strange and even unpleasant conclusions. PB works on much the same assumption, doesn't it?
Indeed, not every MP is like Laura Pidcock. I’m sure most politicians start from the premise that they’d like to make the country a better place, and even if they may disagree on the methodology they have more in common than divides them.
Apologies for the negativity but.... I really don't think polling/election predictions/psephology is something the lords should consider official business. Leave it to the electoral commission/BPC etc.
There's an insane amount of really difficult, dull but essential brexit scrutiny for the lords to be getting on with. They should be working overtime on economic impact assessments and whatnot.
Hope the day goes well, anyway. I don't blame you for accepting the invitation!
The couple of times I've seen you on TV you came across pretty well.
The useless bunch of farts have little to do for their £300 a day plus free scoff and bevvy, hotels etc. They need to find something to do till the bars open.
They could try, ooh, I don't know - examing tax legislation to fill in the loopholes? Save a few billions and they will have less problems with getting the £300 a day....
Apologies for the negativity but.... I really don't think polling/election predictions/psephology is something the lords should consider official business. Leave it to the electoral commission/BPC etc.
There's an insane amount of really difficult, dull but essential brexit scrutiny for the lords to be getting on with. They should be working overtime on economic impact assessments and whatnot.
Hope the day goes well, anyway. I don't blame you for accepting the invitation!
The couple of times I've seen you on TV you came across pretty well.
It's of political interest because of the view that polls should be banned in the final week(s), as in many other countries.
Personally I see no problem. I've had friends who were everything from BNP to Trots: what counts is that one thinks they are primarily well-intentioned, even if they've come to strange and even unpleasant conclusions. PB works on much the same assumption, doesn't it?
Indeed, not every MP is like Laura Pidcock. I’m sure most politicians start from the premise that they’d like to make the country a better place, and even if they may disagree on the methodology they have more in common than divides them.
Certain MPs say certain things to promote themselves. What I don't understand is why there are so many people willing to help them by dialing up the outrageometer.
Apologies for the negativity but.... I really don't think polling/election predictions/psephology is something the lords should consider official business. Leave it to the electoral commission/BPC etc.
There's an insane amount of really difficult, dull but essential brexit scrutiny for the lords to be getting on with. They should be working overtime on economic impact assessments and whatnot.
Hope the day goes well, anyway. I don't blame you for accepting the invitation!
The couple of times I've seen you on TV you came across pretty well.
It's of political interest because of the view that polls should be banned in the final week(s), as in many other countries.
Personally I see no problem. I've had friends who were everything from BNP to Trots: what counts is that one thinks they are primarily well-intentioned, even if they've come to strange and even unpleasant conclusions. PB works on much the same assumption, doesn't it?
I'm afraid I could not have a friend who backed the BNP. I'd be civil to such a person, but they are not getting any bit of me beyond that.
OT Re Iran. Now that Trump has been effectively isolated in what seems no more than another vindictive attack on an Obama success isn't it a shame that when the EU are finally acting as a cohesive world power Britain is just an isolated enfeebled waste of space.
Leaving the EU is much more damaging than just impoverishing the population
Apologies for the negativity but.... I really don't think polling/election predictions/psephology is something the lords should consider official business. Leave it to the electoral commission/BPC etc.
There's an insane amount of really difficult, dull but essential brexit scrutiny for the lords to be getting on with. They should be working overtime on economic impact assessments and whatnot.
Hope the day goes well, anyway. I don't blame you for accepting the invitation!
The couple of times I've seen you on TV you came across pretty well.
It's of political interest because of the view that polls should be banned in the final week(s), as in many other countries.
Apologies for the negativity but.... I really don't think polling/election predictions/psephology is something the lords should consider official business. Leave it to the electoral commission/BPC etc.
There's an insane amount of really difficult, dull but essential brexit scrutiny for the lords to be getting on with. They should be working overtime on economic impact assessments and whatnot.
Hope the day goes well, anyway. I don't blame you for accepting the invitation!
The couple of times I've seen you on TV you came across pretty well.
It's of political interest because of the view that polls should be banned in the final week(s), as in many other countries.
OT Re Iran. Now that Trump has been effectively isolated in what seems no more than another vindictive attack on an Obama success isn't it a shame that when the EU are finally acting as a cohesive world power Britain is just an isolated enfeebled waste of space.
Leaving the EU is much more damaging than just impoverishing the population
The problem that many of us have with the EU is that it is too cohesive, too centralised, too bureaucratically dominated...and entirely alien to our national democratic traditions.
Personally I see no problem. I've had friends who were everything from BNP to Trots: what counts is that one thinks they are primarily well-intentioned, even if they've come to strange and even unpleasant conclusions. PB works on much the same assumption, doesn't it?
Indeed, not every MP is like Laura Pidcock. I’m sure most politicians start from the premise that they’d like to make the country a better place, and even if they may disagree on the methodology they have more in common than divides them.
I believe this is absolutely the case. My business partner is so left wing I think Momentum might have trouble accepting him. But having known him for more years than I care to remember I know that his view of people and his desire to make the world a better place is absolutely one I agree with and support. We simply differ (radically) on how we think we should best go about it.
I must admit I would have (and have had) trouble with a BNP or NF member.
OT Re Iran. Now that Trump has been effectively isolated in what seems no more than another vindictive attack on an Obama success isn't it a shame that when the EU are finally acting as a cohesive world power Britain is just an isolated enfeebled waste of space.
Leaving the EU is much more damaging than just impoverishing the population
I've got it. The reason surely for the GE2017 polling problems was inconsistent voting patterns by different segments of the electorate. You can't blame the pollsters for that
Personally I see no problem. I've had friends who were everything from BNP to Trots: what counts is that one thinks they are primarily well-intentioned, even if they've come to strange and even unpleasant conclusions. PB works on much the same assumption, doesn't it?
I'm afraid I could not have a friend who backed the BNP. I'd be civil to such a person, but they are not getting any bit of me beyond that.
Its entirely possible you may have one already and don't know it. People who don't talk about these issues can hold very surprising views.
I've got it. The reason surely for the GE2017 polling problems was inconsistent voting patterns by different segments of the electorate. You can't blame the pollsters for that
I think turnout was just about ideal for Labour. Had it matched the 2015 election, or the 2016 referendum, the Tories would either just have held on to a handful of Southern marginals, or else just got those extra votes in Northern and Midlands seats which Labour saved by a whisker.
Personally I see no problem. I've had friends who were everything from BNP to Trots: what counts is that one thinks they are primarily well-intentioned, even if they've come to strange and even unpleasant conclusions. PB works on much the same assumption, doesn't it?
I'm afraid I could not have a friend who backed the BNP. I'd be civil to such a person, but they are not getting any bit of me beyond that.
Its entirely possible you may have one already and don't know it. People who don't talk about these issues can hold very surprising views.
Another oddity is that sometimes, peoples' voting behaviour bears no relation to their opinions.
I've got it. The reason surely for the GE2017 polling problems was inconsistent voting patterns by different segments of the electorate. You can't blame the pollsters for that
Yes you can. Pollsters try to make up for poor sampling by weighting, where the weights are heavily adjusted after each polling failure (or election, as they are often known). Your explanation is basically that they have not correctly identified subsamples before weighting them.
And you can also blame pollsters for not noticing their subsamples had become internally inconsistent.
Personally I see no problem. I've had friends who were everything from BNP to Trots: what counts is that one thinks they are primarily well-intentioned, even if they've come to strange and even unpleasant conclusions. PB works on much the same assumption, doesn't it?
I'm afraid I could not have a friend who backed the BNP. I'd be civil to such a person, but they are not getting any bit of me beyond that.
Its entirely possible you may have one already and don't know it. People who don't talk about these issues can hold very surprising views.
The GE2017 polling failure was basically because some firms discounted previous non-voters when they should not have done. Those of us who backed NOM on the basis of Prosser(?) and BES and Yougov and Survation) and have aftertimed about it ever since are not even sure there was a polling failure.
Edit: non-voters who do not vote probably don't take part in polls either.
Personally I see no problem. I've had friends who were everything from BNP to Trots: what counts is that one thinks they are primarily well-intentioned, even if they've come to strange and even unpleasant conclusions. PB works on much the same assumption, doesn't it?
I'm afraid I could not have a friend who backed the BNP. I'd be civil to such a person, but they are not getting any bit of me beyond that.
Its entirely possible you may have one already and don't know it. People who don't talk about these issues can hold very surprising views.
Couple of people I once thought highly of came out with surprising statements during the Referendum, and not just about the EU.
Either aggressively means test pensions, or keep as/is & tax property/inheritance properly.
The bit of the triple lock the Tories want to ditch is the minimum 2.5% rise when inflation is below that. If inflation is at 3% then that clause does not matter.
From the Conservative Party manifesto: maintain the Triple Lock until 2020, and when it expires we will introduce a new Double Lock, meaning that pensions will rise in line with the earnings that pay for them, or in line with inflation –- whichever is highest.
I've got it. The reason surely for the GE2017 polling problems was inconsistent voting patterns by different segments of the electorate. You can't blame the pollsters for that
"inconsistent voting patterns by different segments of the electorate"?
Huh? I mean isn't that what pollsters are supposed to analyse?
It's a bit above target. Not hugely. Certainly not at a bed-wetting stage, particularly when we've ample scope to increase interest rates to a more normal level.
Still, panic, woe doom, Armageddon, climate change, Brexit, time for socialism, foam-flecked fantastical fear-mongering terror, apocalypse! Etc.
Either aggressively means test pensions, or keep as/is & tax property/inheritance properly.
The bit of the triple lock the Tories want to ditch is the minimum 2.5% rise when inflation is below that. If inflation is at 3% then that clause does not matter.
From the Conservative Party manifesto: maintain the Triple Lock until 2020, and when it expires we will introduce a new Double Lock, meaning that pensions will rise in line with the earnings that pay for them, or in line with inflation –- whichever is highest.
It should be a single lock, linked to average earnings.
Right now, workers are getting 0.9% poorer every year.
Pensioners aren't.
The workers are paying the pensioners overgenerous pensions that they won't receive themselves.
Either aggressively means test pensions, or keep as/is & tax property/inheritance properly.
The bit of the triple lock the Tories want to ditch is the minimum 2.5% rise when inflation is below that. If inflation is at 3% then that clause does not matter.
From the Conservative Party manifesto: maintain the Triple Lock until 2020, and when it expires we will introduce a new Double Lock, meaning that pensions will rise in line with the earnings that pay for them, or in line with inflation –- whichever is highest.
Linking to inflation seems fair to me. Topping up 2.5% anyway if inflation is low doesn't particularly. Nice to have if we can afford it.
Of course for the next little while it looks like inflation will be higher than target - so probably a moot point.
My suspicion is Carney will tolerate higher inflation in the hope of propping up growth.
F1: the ultrasofts, normally, purple, will be pink at the US race to raise awareness of breast cancer.
The yellows will remain yellow because increasing awareness of pancreatic cancer isn't as fashionable.
[I did wonder about posting the second sentence, but it pisses me off that people are literally dying because research into pancreatic cancer (as a 'non-sexy/trendy' disease) is so much more underfunded. If/when I actually have enough cash to splash around, pancreatic cancer research will be near the top of the list].
RPI 3.9%. That's the benchmark still applicable for the likes of business rates, rail fares and student loans (+ another 3% above RPI). The "inflation" rate the Government uses when it's receiving revenue, rather than paying it out.
State pensioners should be feeling hard done to as well. Under Blair and Brown, pensions increased by the higher of RPI or 2.5%. The link to CPI was brought in after 2011 by Osborne. The additional link to average earnings was brought in by Osborne over a period of engineered austerity when he knew earnings would be falling well behind 2.5%, such that the extra link to earnings has proved useless to state pensioners.
It's a bit above target. Not hugely. Certainly not at a bed-wetting stage, particularly when we've ample scope to increase interest rates to a more normal level.
Still, panic, woe doom, Armageddon, climate change, Brexit, time for socialism, foam-flecked fantastical fear-mongering terror, apocalypse! Etc.
Run away inflation isn't the worry and to be honest never was. The concern for me is continued real wage decline - and that is actually happening.
Mr. rkrkrk, with inflation over the desired target and interest rates just 0.25%, there seems a rather obvious move for the MPC to make.
Seems weak wage growth (and current decline) is the price we've paid as a nation for strong employment statistics.
Oh certainly they can raise rates - but Carney/MPC are reluctant because they don't think the economy is strong fundamentally. Looking at the growth rates - they're hardly brilliant... and Brexit is just around the corner.
F1: the ultrasofts, normally, purple, will be pink at the US race to raise awareness of breast cancer.
The yellows will remain yellow because increasing awareness of pancreatic cancer isn't as fashionable.
[I did wonder about posting the second sentence, but it pisses me off that people are literally dying because research into pancreatic cancer (as a 'non-sexy/trendy' disease) is so much more underfunded. If/when I actually have enough cash to splash around, pancreatic cancer research will be near the top of the list].
Given the comments below, then Pars antequam patria it is, although I enjoyed FF43's Dulce et decorum est.... but I suspect that Wilfred Owen might have a thing or two to say if he could see us all now.
Either aggressively means test pensions, or keep as/is & tax property/inheritance properly.
The bit of the triple lock the Tories want to ditch is the minimum 2.5% rise when inflation is below that. If inflation is at 3% then that clause does not matter.
From the Conservative Party manifesto: maintain the Triple Lock until 2020, and when it expires we will introduce a new Double Lock, meaning that pensions will rise in line with the earnings that pay for them, or in line with inflation –- whichever is highest.
It should be a single lock, linked to average earnings.
Right now, workers are getting 0.9% poorer every year.
Pensioners aren't.
The workers are paying the pensioners overgenerous pensions that they won't receive themselves.
That's not fair.
Rubbish. The state pension takes just 5% of GDP. The US pays a higher state pension than we do, i.e. FDR's legacy was less easily privatised / destroyed than that of Beveridge/Attlee.
Blame past politicians, like Thatcher. Don't blame the workers for Thatcher's actions.
Right now, workers are getting 0.9% poorer every year.
Pensioners aren't.
The workers are paying the pensioners overgenerous pensions that they won't receive themselves.
That's not fair.
Fair? What has that got to do with it whenever the majority of pensioners in the country vote Tory?
Party before Country (can someone translate that into Latin so CCHQ can adopt it officially as the motto?)
[Edit: Google translate says: Pars antequam terra - Yes? No? Maybe?]
lol
I have a (not very novel) theory for what has gone so wrong in the tory party in recent years.
It's fundamentally caused by a decline in newspaper readership. The powerbrokers in the party think that the editors are more powerful than they actually are.
The editors are desperately pandering to their declining readership, which is getting older and older.
This all funneled into a manifesto which had dotted every i & crossed every t so far as the editors were concerned, but got torn apart in the socialmediasphere that normal, non-newspaper readers inhabit.
Given the comments below, then Pars antequam patria it is, although I enjoyed FF43's Dulce et decorum est.... but I suspect that Wilfred Owen might have a thing or two to say if he could see us all now.
Given the comments below, then Pars antequam patria it is, although I enjoyed FF43's Dulce et decorum est.... but I suspect that Wilfred Owen might have a thing or two to say if he could see us all now.
For the current crop of politicians, I think that one is the wrong way round.
To be honest, I think there might be a lot less trouble if people were prepared to live for their country rather than die for it. Think what would have happened in WW1 if all those young men had said "We have a whole life ahead of us - go fight your own wars"
Tragic, this book, alongside LOTR, had the most profound effect on me as a child*
The Biloxi School District got complaints about the wording in “To Kill A Mockingbird” — an American classic being taught in 8th grade English Language Arts classes — and pulled it from the curriculum.
To be honest, I hated reading it. Probably down to my teacher, to be honest. All I really learnt was that dressing as a giant ham makes you impervious to knife attacks.
The GE2017 polling failure was basically because some firms discounted previous non-voters when they should not have done. Those of us who backed NOM on the basis of Prosser(?) and BES and Yougov and Survation) and have aftertimed about it ever since are not even sure there was a polling failure.
Edit: non-voters who do not vote probably don't take part in polls either.
Indeed. The final YouGov poll was actually quite close, if you take the weighted data before applying any further adjustments filtering turnout or reallocating "don't knows" adjustment. It had the Tories about 2% ahead of Labour. That happens to be the method YouGov used in all their published GE polls up to about March 2015 before the short campaign started. After 2015 they tightened up their turnout filter and also started to reallocate don't knows.
I don't think that the basic sampling was that bad. What happened was that a generation which always said it would do one thing (vote) and do another (not vote), and which had become steadily more prone to that behaviour as time went on, suddenly decided to do what they were saying they would do. Not unreasonably, the pollsters took the view that they were still crying wolf.
Pollsters are always fighting the last war, not the current one. Any change in established patterns of behaviour can catch them out.
I'm afraid I could not have a friend who backed the BNP. I'd be civil to such a person, but they are not getting any bit of me beyond that.
Well, we've been friends for nearly 50 years, so it's not easily discarded. Normally he votes Tory or UKIP, but in one London election a few years back wanted to send a message that he felt immigration was too high. He has a Chinese partner and is not very racialist, but sees voting as a matter of message-sending since it's unlikely to change the result.
I think I'd have more trouble with a regular BNP voter, or one who I hadn't previously been friends with. But in the end the acid test for me is whether I believe that they mean well, not what conclusions that leads them to take.
F1: the ultrasofts, normally, purple, will be pink at the US race to raise awareness of breast cancer.
The yellows will remain yellow because increasing awareness of pancreatic cancer isn't as fashionable.
[I did wonder about posting the second sentence, but it pisses me off that people are literally dying because research into pancreatic cancer (as a 'non-sexy/trendy' disease) is so much more underfunded. If/when I actually have enough cash to splash around, pancreatic cancer research will be near the top of the list].
From the prostate cancer website (the ‘ribbon’ is a liittle silver man) 'Plans to rollout mpMRI scans before a first biopsy for all UK men suspected of prostate cancer are under threat, as long-term vacancies and increasing demand put a strain on the NHS's radiology services.'
As men live longer prostate cancer will become an increasing problem. One of the problems, for me anyway, is that one at least of the treatments is depressing. God knows how much the unit where I had radiotherapy cost.
To be honest, I hated reading it. Probably down to my teacher, to be honest. All I really learnt was that dressing as a giant ham makes you impervious to knife attacks.
It does seem a stupid decision.
I understand what you mean Mr Dancer, but looking back at stuff from (say) mid-1970s or earlier, some of it does make me cringe these days. I love Fawlty Towers but there is one episode where the old Major goes off on one about foreigners and it is pure cringe TV. The audience was laughing away merrily... As for programs like "Love Thy Neighbour"....
I had the unusual experience of giving evidence yesterday in Court. It was recorded but not, thankfully, on the TV. I must say I very much prefer asking the questions than answering them.
The inflation figure is bad news for the government and for Hammond's budget (if indeed he is the one giving it). It means both pensions and benefits are going to be increasing faster than was anticipated making the sums even harder to balance. It also threatens to undermine any argument that the budget is designed to help the young even if it is a matter somewhat beyond the Chancellor's control at the moment. Higher inflation means a longer period until wages start to grow again in real terms. Not great for the government either.
Given the comments below, then Pars antequam patria it is, although I enjoyed FF43's Dulce et decorum est.... but I suspect that Wilfred Owen might have a thing or two to say if he could see us all now.
For the current crop of politicians, I think that one is the wrong way round.
To be honest, I think there might be a lot less trouble if people were prepared to live for their country rather than die for it. Think what would have happened in WW1 if all those young men had said "We have a whole life ahead of us - go fight your own wars"
Kipling (I think) wrote 'If any question why we died, Tell them, because our fathers lied.'
Best way to avoid inflation is to not purchase anything in the basket of good - particularly the new additions:
Half chocolate-coated biscuits Non-dairy milk Flavoured water Gin, bottle Flavoured cider, bottle Apple cider, four-can pack* Men’s base layer top Cycle helmet Average council tax bills in Great Britain Average rates bills in Northern Ireland Cough liquid Child’s scooter Jigsaw (now very popular with adults) Cider
PS @bbcphilipsim is tweeting an entertaining selection of angry letters from Scottish voters to the Boundary Commission. Some angry old blighters out there
Best way to avoid inflation is to not purchase anything in the basket of good - particularly the new additions:
Half chocolate-coated biscuits Non-dairy milk Flavoured water Gin, bottle Flavoured cider, bottle Apple cider, four-can pack* Men’s base layer top Cycle helmet Average council tax bills in Great Britain Average rates bills in Northern Ireland Cough liquid Child’s scooter Jigsaw (now very popular with adults) Cider
Why anyone drinks berry flavoured cider is beyond me; one of the the most unpleasant drinks I’ve ever tasted.
Best way to avoid inflation is to not purchase anything in the basket of good - particularly the new additions:
Half chocolate-coated biscuits Non-dairy milk Flavoured water Gin, bottle Flavoured cider, bottle Apple cider, four-can pack* Men’s base layer top Cycle helmet Average council tax bills in Great Britain Average rates bills in Northern Ireland Cough liquid Child’s scooter Jigsaw (now very popular with adults) Cider
Best way to avoid inflation is to not purchase anything in the basket of good - particularly the new additions:
Half chocolate-coated biscuits Non-dairy milk Flavoured water Gin, bottle Flavoured cider, bottle Apple cider, four-can pack* Men’s base layer top Cycle helmet Average council tax bills in Great Britain Average rates bills in Northern Ireland Cough liquid Child’s scooter Jigsaw (now very popular with adults) Cider
Best way to avoid inflation is to not purchase anything in the basket of good - particularly the new additions:
Half chocolate-coated biscuits Non-dairy milk Flavoured water Gin, bottle Flavoured cider, bottle Apple cider, four-can pack* Men’s base layer top Cycle helmet Average council tax bills in Great Britain Average rates bills in Northern Ireland Cough liquid Child’s scooter Jigsaw (now very popular with adults) Cider
Best way to avoid inflation is to not purchase anything in the basket of good - particularly the new additions:
Rubbish why should things added to the basket be prone to higher than normal inflation? In fact the statisticians would want to actively avoid anything that might be prone to such an effect. The basket is supposed to reflect typical goods not fashion.
Best way to avoid inflation is to not purchase anything in the basket of good - particularly the new additions:
Half chocolate-coated biscuits Non-dairy milk Flavoured water Gin, bottle Flavoured cider, bottle Apple cider, four-can pack* Men’s base layer top Cycle helmet Average council tax bills in Great Britain Average rates bills in Northern Ireland Cough liquid Child’s scooter Jigsaw (now very popular with adults) Cider
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Apologies for the negativity but.... I really don't think polling/election predictions/psephology is something the lords should consider official business. Leave it to the electoral commission/BPC etc.
There's an insane amount of really difficult, dull but essential brexit scrutiny for the lords to be getting on with. They should be working overtime on economic impact assessments and whatnot.
Hope the day goes well, anyway. I don't blame you for accepting the invitation!
The couple of times I've seen you on TV you came across pretty well.
Enjoy the day Mike!
I'm sure you'll do very well.
Latest fruit prices:
Redcurrants 42p/100g
Blueberries 38p/100g
Yellow bananas 7p/100g
Scottish raspberries 4p/100g
Greengages 2p/100g
I am struggling for a suitable fruit to represent the Kippers!
Price of fish for the Kippers?
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/comment/politics-and-friendship-are-a-toxicmixture-qr09swn7x
Personally I see no problem. I've had friends who were everything from BNP to Trots: what counts is that one thinks they are primarily well-intentioned, even if they've come to strange and even unpleasant conclusions. PB works on much the same assumption, doesn't it?
Klaxon. Anyone?
Leaving the EU is much more damaging than just impoverishing the population
I must admit I would have (and have had) trouble with a BNP or NF member.
And you can also blame pollsters for not noticing their subsamples had become internally inconsistent.
Either aggressively means test pensions, or keep as/is & tax property/inheritance properly.
Edit: non-voters who do not vote probably don't take part in polls either.
https://twitter.com/ONS/status/920206176385667074
From the Conservative Party manifesto: maintain the Triple Lock until 2020, and when it expires we will introduce a new Double Lock, meaning that pensions will rise in line with the earnings that pay for them, or in line with inflation –- whichever is highest.
Huh? I mean isn't that what pollsters are supposed to analyse?
It's a bit above target. Not hugely. Certainly not at a bed-wetting stage, particularly when we've ample scope to increase interest rates to a more normal level.
Still, panic, woe doom, Armageddon, climate change, Brexit, time for socialism, foam-flecked fantastical fear-mongering terror, apocalypse! Etc.
Right now, workers are getting 0.9% poorer every year.
Pensioners aren't.
The workers are paying the pensioners overgenerous pensions that they won't receive themselves.
That's not fair.
Topping up 2.5% anyway if inflation is low doesn't particularly. Nice to have if we can afford it.
Of course for the next little while it looks like inflation will be higher than target - so probably a moot point.
My suspicion is Carney will tolerate higher inflation in the hope of propping up growth.
The yellows will remain yellow because increasing awareness of pancreatic cancer isn't as fashionable.
[I did wonder about posting the second sentence, but it pisses me off that people are literally dying because research into pancreatic cancer (as a 'non-sexy/trendy' disease) is so much more underfunded. If/when I actually have enough cash to splash around, pancreatic cancer research will be near the top of the list].
State pensioners should be feeling hard done to as well. Under Blair and Brown, pensions increased by the higher of RPI or 2.5%. The link to CPI was brought in after 2011 by Osborne. The additional link to average earnings was brought in by Osborne over a period of engineered austerity when he knew earnings would be falling well behind 2.5%, such that the extra link to earnings has proved useless to state pensioners.
The concern for me is continued real wage decline - and that is actually happening.
Seems weak wage growth (and current decline) is the price we've paid as a nation for strong employment statistics.
Party before Country (can someone translate that into Latin so CCHQ can adopt it officially as the motto?)
[Edit: Google translate says: Pars antequam terra - Yes? No? Maybe?]
Or something....
https://www.choosehope.com/category/by-cancer-color-cancer-type
Blame past politicians, like Thatcher. Don't blame the workers for Thatcher's actions.
I have a (not very novel) theory for what has gone so wrong in the tory party in recent years.
It's fundamentally caused by a decline in newspaper readership. The powerbrokers in the party think that the editors are more powerful than they actually are.
The editors are desperately pandering to their declining readership, which is getting older and older.
This all funneled into a manifesto which had dotted every i & crossed every t so far as the editors were concerned, but got torn apart in the socialmediasphere that normal, non-newspaper readers inhabit.
FPTP doesn't help the pollsters.
I can see that going well
To be honest, I think there might be a lot less trouble if people were prepared to live for their country rather than die for it. Think what would have happened in WW1 if all those young men had said "We have a whole life ahead of us - go fight your own wars"
The Biloxi School District got complaints about the wording in “To Kill A Mockingbird” — an American classic being taught in 8th grade English Language Arts classes — and pulled it from the curriculum.
http://www.sunherald.com/news/local/counties/jackson-county/article178572326.html?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#link_time=1508228905
*So did the film, Gregory Peck was magnificent.
To be honest, I hated reading it. Probably down to my teacher, to be honest. All I really learnt was that dressing as a giant ham makes you impervious to knife attacks.
It does seem a stupid decision.
I don't think that the basic sampling was that bad. What happened was that a generation which always said it would do one thing (vote) and do another (not vote), and which had become steadily more prone to that behaviour as time went on, suddenly decided to do what they were saying they would do. Not unreasonably, the pollsters took the view that they were still crying wolf.
Pollsters are always fighting the last war, not the current one. Any change in established patterns of behaviour can catch them out.
I think I'd have more trouble with a regular BNP voter, or one who I hadn't previously been friends with. But in the end the acid test for me is whether I believe that they mean well, not what conclusions that leads them to take.
As men live longer prostate cancer will become an increasing problem. One of the problems, for me anyway, is that one at least of the treatments is depressing. God knows how much the unit where I had radiotherapy cost.
Although I can still remember inter arma enim silent leges for all the wrong reasons.
The inflation figure is bad news for the government and for Hammond's budget (if indeed he is the one giving it). It means both pensions and benefits are going to be increasing faster than was anticipated making the sums even harder to balance. It also threatens to undermine any argument that the budget is designed to help the young even if it is a matter somewhat beyond the Chancellor's control at the moment. Higher inflation means a longer period until wages start to grow again in real terms. Not great for the government either.
'If any question why we died,
Tell them, because our fathers lied.'
Half chocolate-coated biscuits
Non-dairy milk
Flavoured water
Gin, bottle
Flavoured cider, bottle
Apple cider, four-can pack*
Men’s base layer top
Cycle helmet
Average council tax bills in Great Britain
Average rates bills in Northern Ireland
Cough liquid
Child’s scooter
Jigsaw (now very popular with adults)
Cider