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https://twitter.com/ProfTimBale/status/915490364802437120
F1: rumour on the BBC that Verstappen's halfway to signing for Mercedes in 2019.
Heath and the latter day Wilson wasn't a great choice in 74 but it was better than this. An increasingly demented Thatcher or Kinnock in 87 wasn't great either. But its not easy to think of a time when our leadership choices were so totally inadequate.
Sensible Tories need to find candidates that can win the MP ballot and be acceptable to their dwindling members.
funny old world
Wasn't bad in the sense it tried to put parsecs between May and her rabid 9 months between " Citizens of Nowhere " and *that* campaign. It's a largely sunny, Cameroonian speech from someone who was a Cameron before Cameron. Books will be written for decades on how an arch moderniser destroyed her Premiership with the sort of rabid culture war lurch she'd spent her previous career fighting against. It's ok inexplicable to date.
Also worth noting the only serving political name checked in the text. Ruth Davidson. Just as she was the only one name checked by Blair in his latest magisterial piece. Davidson really is the Designated Survivor of centrism fated to emerge from the bunker after all this is over in 5 years or so.
Also note the two odd mentions of Osborne in the speech. Was she planning on bringing him back Mandelson style ? Too late now. Though her endorsement to be the Maidenhead Byelection candidate may still carry some weight.
But the text of the speech doesn't matter. The frankly Jungian physical manifestations of the inner chaos put paid to that. What an absolute national disaster were facing. Leavened only with it being hilarious.
Curse of new thread!
The sad thing about all the shit that went down during the speech is that it has detracted from analysis of what she actually said.
Which was channelling Miliband policies that were ruthlessly attacked by the Tories previously and a load of hooey about opportunity that entirely sat at odds with her relentlessly nasty and authoritarian speech of 2016. In other words loaded with layer on layer of hypocrisy. That's what the papers should be exposing.
As for Boris, the guy has repeatedly shown himself unfit to run a whelk stall. He's derided by virtually the whole world. If he gets the top job, we'll be ostracised, a global laughing stock.
We need a proper deal now, to rise above the bullshit, the fantasy and the party politics, and it's a deal only a remainer can make.
If we really are going to go down the route of regulating the general prices of a privately provided product the Water Regulation regime is the obvious and sensible model. It had uniform political buy in until Comrade Corbyn and in terms of the long term cost of Water it worked.
https://mobile.twitter.com/JamesWillby/status/915608219099258880
I tipped him at 100/1 and he’ll pay for a long weekend in Monaco.
That was in the 4th century.
On a serious note, Labour not as youth and London-dominated as you might think.
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May lost power in June. She is soon to lose office. Destined to be one of the more tragic figures of British politics.
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Spot on, I'd say.
And for those who cite May's unnecessarily harsh treatment of him: nobody forced him out of the Commons. Osborne left of his own accord.
It's a bit like writing an Amnesty International letter for a hideous murderer on the grounds of principle of the Death Penalty. She may utterly deserve what's coming too her and it will be hilarious. But nevertheless human beings deserve a core of compassion that escaped me yesterday. I will ask Our Lady of Lewisham to watch over her.
Gone by the autumn: that was the conventional wisdom when Theresa May failed to win her election majority last summer. She was a dead woman walking. She would not even make it to her party conference, let alone survive it.
She is still there, and shows no signs of leaving. So much for the conventional wisdom, biased always to apocalypse and bored by continuity......
I suspect May will emerge from this debacle curiously strengthened. Her enemies will inevitably see it as a coded sign of female weakness, but her greatest lack so far has been of humanity. In Manchester, she was compelled to convey humour, vulnerability and a degree of emotion. I doubt if it will do her much harm. She may be unpopular but survive she will, for the time being. The Tories elected her a year ago. They know they must live with her.
Conferences are a distorting lens of political fortune. British party leaders are in a phenomenally strong position, provided they hold their nerve. The bizarre events in Manchester suggest May’s nerve, if not her voice, remains steady.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/oct/04/manchester-theresa-may-voice-speech
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-41509085
Austria’s centre-left chancellor is battling allegations that his party paid for a group of websites churning out xenophobic and antisemitic conspiracy theories in order to discredit his main challenger in the eyes of far-right supporters.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/oct/05/negative-campaign-sites-scandal-shakes-up-austrian-election-race
Those last three words must resonate widely and I would agree that I cannot recall a time when both the government and the opposition were so devoid of talent and at the same time facing the most important issue for decades.
I have supported Theresa much because I do not see a successor but the person who is key in all this is her husband. If he feels she needs to stand down he will hopefully guide her.
I know the anti conservative supporters on here are desperate for her to stand down in the hope of an election, but judging by the mood of the Country they do not want an election and neither is Corbyn a shoe in, as he contributes in a big way to the public's perception that they are all inadequate.
I hope that her husband quietly tells her that she has done more than enough now and that she should make way.
They'd question him, maybe, if he were alive, that's it. That is them spinning that he's guilt but they are able to prove it.
The report will be interesting - if the Guardian are right about how the investigation was conducted, which essentially biases investigators from the off and places the burden on the accused to prove innocence, then it truly was a colossal waste. For their sake I hope there was more to it.
https://twitter.com/GuyVerhofstadt/status/915606106667352064
Had he not lost his seat 1992 I reckon he might have replaced John Major in 1997.
https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/liberal-democrats/news/89565/join-labour-stop-brexit-nick-clegg-says
i) The Tories are pensioners - average ages are within 10% of each other across the Parties
ii) No Tories in Scotland - proportionately more than Labour or the Lib Dems
iii) Labour is a 'London/M25' Party - its the least represented in London/South East of the national parties.
iv) The Tories are the London/South East Party - not when the Lib Dems have 60% of their members there.
v) Labour is the Party of the young - really, with 16% of their members under 34 while the Tories have 14% and the LD's 20%?
Mr. kle/Mr. F, quite. But old white guys don't benefit from investigations being culturally insensitive.
I agree with you, this is the worst Government and Opposition I can remember. A dim, hard- left Trot with an inflexible mind, and a woman lacking confidence, political ability or judgement.
BTW, yesterday at Conference was irrelevant. She had a cough, a nutter in the crowd made a childish gesture, and a set misbehaved. Which ones were her fault? None of them.
Catalonia receives sympathy for holding an illegal referendum and wishing for freedom from the larger state. The LDs demand we stay in the EU despite a legal referendum voting to leave. And they call themselves Democrats.
Vote for NOTA!
If Gordon Brown could manage it with Peter Mandelson then so can Mrs May, but we all know she’s a vindicative person whose programming doesn’t allow such magnanimity.
She’s more comfortable with Nick Timothy and Fiona Hill at her side.
Isn't it the same mocking that Ed Miliband suffered ? Wasn't it Justine who protected him at the end and played the 'Philip May' role?
Or the same ridiculing laughter that Ming Campbell faced (remember 'Grandpa')?
In fact, Jeremy was on the receiving end of it for almost the first year or so as Leader of the Opposition. I think his time will come again.
It is often orchestrated by the press, but the rival party supporters join in all too enthusiastically.
And, then we wonder why there are few people of any talent to lead the country?
Savile's dead. They can't chase his ghost, and police trying to pin blame on other dead white guys or putting old men through investigation based on spurious claims is adding to failure, not redeeming themselves.
Right now there are large numbers of rape gangs targeting young girls and boys. That should be the police focus.
Ruth Davidson and the Scons has an excellent campaign as they ran their own campaign
But the claims need to be substantive, there needs to be corroboration, and most vitally the investigation needs to be properly conducted. The unacceptability of an approach which presumes guilt and biases investigators as detailed by the Henriques report really stuck with me. The automatically believing alleged victims and making people, who are in this case dead, needing to prove innocence, is abhorrent to the very idea of proper procedure, and the Guardian report, though not negative, indicated by detail they used that approach.
That 'grounds to suspect' is such a low barrier but will be taken as proof of guilt is very sad.
That's factually incorrect.
As I understand it they want a new referendum on the deal once it has been agreed between the UK and EU. You can disagree with that, but they are asking for MORE democracy.
As soon as you gave unqualified backing to the EU Commission for the Spanish Government’s dreadful repression in Catalonia, you could sink no lower.
So roughly where we’re headed for now.
If thats what the referendum is of course.
Could be:
Do you
a) Accept the deal negotiated by HMG and the EU. (Alternatively do you want to crash out to WTO rules)
b) Instruct HMG to withdraw A50.
A ) Remain on our current terms
B ) Leave on the proposed deal
C ) Leave no matter what, replete with WTO Brexit
Conducted under AV of course.