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Several pollsters are tracking how the public is viewing the Brexit negotiations and the latest, from ORB shows a sharp net decline in approval.
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Michel Barnier: Monsieur Macron... Cameron...
Angela Merkel: Cameron didn't have enough Remainers. The Remain victory didn't take place.
[Macron pauses to take off his glasses]
Macron: The following stay here: Tusk, Merkel, Barnier and Juncker.
[The four named EU bigwigs, along with Hollande and Verhofstadt, remain in the room as the others leave. The door closes behind them]
That was an order! Cameron's attack was an order! How dare you ignore my orders?!
[Macron's ranting is clearly audible outside the room]
Is this what it came to? The Commission, everybody lied to me. Even the LibDems! The Remainers are no more than a bunch of disloyal cowards!
Juncker: Monsieur Macron, I can't permit you to insult the British Remainers-
Macron: They are all cowards, traitors and failures!
Juncker: Monsieur Macron, This is outrageous!
Macron: The Commission are the scum of the European Project!
[flings a pencil onto the table]
NO SENSE OF HONOUR! You call yourself "Commissioner" because you spent years at the academy, where you only learned how to use a knife and fork! For years, the Commission obstructed me. All you ever did is thwart me. What I should have done, is had all the high officers fired, like Donald Trump did!
[pauses]
I never went to the academy. But I conquered all of France on my own. Traitors! I've been betrayed and deceived from the start. Such enormous betrayal of the European people. But all these traitors will pay. They will pay with their own jobs! They will drown in their European Regulations!
Theresa May: [To Anna Soubry, outside the room] Anna, please calm yourself!
Macron: All my orders have been ignored. How can I be a French President under these circumstances? It's over. The war is lost. But if you think this means I'll leave Brussels... you're wrong. I'd rather give Nigel Farage fellatio! [sighs] Do whatever you want.
Glad you're on board.
We already know that most Remainers disapprove of the way May is handling things.
We also know that for almost exactly the opposite reasons most of the hard line Leavers also disapprove of the way she is handling things.
But both these groups would probably disapprove almost no matter what she was doing unless she was either saying we ignore the vote and stay in (hard line Remainers) or leave immediately with no deal (hard line Leavers).
It strikes me that this sort of polling was pretty much inevitable so long as she tries to tread a path anywhere near the centre.
https://www.orb-international.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/October-Brexit-Confidence-ORB.pdf
— Martin Luther King, Jr., The Quest for Peace and Justice (1964)
https://twitter.com/MsHelicat/status/914955802234015745
One of my least favourite places!
Quite awhile I should think. With the Tories not able to portray any strength or stability, Labour will be able to get away with any ambivalence quite effectively, and the Tories struggle to benefit even when there is good news.
I ony went to ensure my companions engaged in high standards of moral hygiene.
Could have saved 3 lives last night
Edit: plus with the tories, the obvious front-runner never gets the role (e.g. Hestletine, Portillo, Osborne, Johnson)
Whoever is the next Conservative leader is going to have to advocate some harsh and unpopular policies.
This, however, should cheer you up
https://twitter.com/MsHelicat/status/914961635550404608
I did point out a few weeks ago it must be frustrating for Boris seeing George Osborne earning £650,00 a year for one day a week.
On the other hand, if the contest doesn't take place until 2019 or later, then Boris is going to look awfully shop-soiled.
A touch of Morton's fork... is Davis a bridge player ?
The only one that looks remotely qualified to run the country from either of the big two right now is Phil Hammond.
https://twitter.com/MsHelicat/status/914965311346102272
(Although a successful leadership bid has been launched from Hastings before of course - it'd be one in the eye for Boris!)
If the LibDems recover a bit, and the Conservatives don't alienate their core vote next time round, she has a good chance of repeating the trick. Still, she's certainly in danger, and that's definitely a problem for any leadership bid.
Next you'll be talking about Al Gore Rhythms
If the Budget earlier this year had been accepted without problem would there have been a GE ?
I rather suspect that May went for the GE because firstly she wanted more leeway for tax and spending changes and secondly she wanted a bigger majority for dealing with rebellions such as the Budget provoked.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-41466281
5 options were presented:
Hammond and Rudd were eliminated first - neither considered remotely leadership potential.
Boris came 3rd.
Final was Davis v Rees-Mogg - which ended in a tie.
However, Davis, R-M and Boris were all considered entirely plausible.
Hammond and Rudd were not.
Rudd widely considered to be a solid number 2, not a leader.
I am sure you are just tetchy, the last 12 months or so have been particularly difficult for you. No Dave... No George... No more chumocracy...
I'm not saying this is nailed on, of course. No-one knows. But it's a perfectly plausible scenario that the stars won't align for Corbyn - let alone any sucessor - as perfectly as they did in 2017.
Clearly it would be a big risk for the Conservatives, and that probably means it won't be Rudd.
The Budget should have been a warning sign about the lack of proper planning and inattention to detail.
But a few loud mouthed pols and journos stopped them.
I wonder if any of the Conservative MPs who were so against the NI changes lost their seats in June.
What made it so special is that Labour activists were so focused on Clegg they effectively handed the Tories several seats in West Yorkshire.
(Note to Special Branch: I am talking about unseating the PM!!!)
Well, I am sure TSE didn't make any rash predictions about the size of the Tory GE2017 majority, in the days before I joined the forum
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b096gjjh
Starts around 22 mins in.
If they pull it off, and the early signs are it's working, kudos of sorts to the government. It's an I retesting triangulation between a PR fiasco and Corbynist Corporate Welfare.
I have heard.