politicalbetting.com » Blog Archive » Some numbers that could help TMay’s survival. Another poll, YouGov, has her & the Tories edging back a touch
Given how close it is to the last election it is hardly surprsisng that there are so few voting intention polls coming out. Today’s from YouGov is only the second since Mrs. May lost her majority on June 8th and has the gap down just a touch.
Nice to see leave still leading. The fundementals have not changed and other than a couple of million floaters in the middle it would be hard to understand why anyone leave or remain would have switched sides. Clearly Mr Blair and Mr Cable need to try much harder!
These numbers completely back up what I have been saying. Theresa May is now starting to recover because people admire her getting on with the job and leaving politicking to the election campaign. Yet the leaks and sniping by the egos in the party hurt the party and could let in Corbyn.
"But she cannot airbrush out of history the fact that she called the election to increase her majority and ended without one at all. In earlier times she would have been toppled within days. "
The Tory party nowadays don't have the ba**s to do it.
"But she cannot airbrush out of history the fact that she called the election to increase her majority and ended without one at all. In earlier times she would have been toppled within days. "
The Tory party nowadays don't have the ba**s to do it.
The Conservative Party, thankfully, is sober-minded and doesn't particularly respond to childish taunts.
I was going to suggest that given how long large public projects take in the UK, these words would probably appear on his tombstone: Mr Grayling told the BBC's Today programme that the high-speed rail network will be "on time, on budget" and the government has "a clear idea of what it will cost".
Then I checked his Wikipedia entry and realised Chris Grayling was only 55, and not in his mid sixties, as his appearance and demeanour suggest...
"But she cannot airbrush out of history the fact that she called the election to increase her majority and ended without one at all. In earlier times she would have been toppled within days. "
The Tory party nowadays don't have the ba**s to do it.
The Conservative Party, thankfully, is sober-minded and doesn't particularly respond to childish taunts.
Why is that a childish taunt? If you don't like coming here then you don't have to.
"But she cannot airbrush out of history the fact that she called the election to increase her majority and ended without one at all. In earlier times she would have been toppled within days. "
The Tory party nowadays don't have the ba**s to do it.
The Conservative Party, thankfully, is sober-minded and doesn't particularly respond to childish taunts.
Why is that a childish taunt? If you don't like coming here then you don't have to.
I haven't heard "you haven't got the ba**s to do it" since I was in school. Do you hear it more regularly in your line of work?
Nice to see leave still leading. The fundementals have not changed and other than a couple of million floaters in the middle it would be hard to understand why anyone leave or remain would have switched sides. Clearly Mr Blair and Mr Cable need to try much harder!
Which survey shows leave still leading? The most recent Survation has remain well ahead.
"The BBC will offer protection to stars who receive online abuse and threats when their salaries are published this week.
The corporation’s bosses are braced for attacks on presenters and other high paid ‘talent’ when the list of stars earning £150,000 or more is made public.
A BBC source said: “People are extremely worried about safety, not only for themselves but also their families. There is a worry they will receive a torrent of abuse online.”
Despite the media barrage, a majority still think Brexit is the right thing to do.
It's much like Project Fear. Because the barrage of negativity from selective media sources (Channel 4 News, Sky News, Guardian and Evening Standard) people are failing to believe what they are reading and hearing. Perhaps if there was more objectivity and focus on believable stories rather than making MAJOR HEADLINES from thin gruel such as made-up leaks or someone on our negotiating team not tweeting enough then perhaps voters would be more likely to accept any shortcomings from the situation we find ourselves in.
Either way I doubt the position of voters will change too much, views are largely entrenched which is why the June 23rd vote is irreversible from the point Article 50 was enacted.
"The BBC will offer protection to stars who receive online abuse and threats when their salaries are published this week.
The corporation’s bosses are braced for attacks on presenters and other high paid ‘talent’ when the list of stars earning £150,000 or more is made public.
A BBC source said: “People are extremely worried about safety, not only for themselves but also their families. There is a worry they will receive a torrent of abuse online.”
Nice to see leave still leading. The fundementals have not changed and other than a couple of million floaters in the middle it would be hard to understand why anyone leave or remain would have switched sides. Clearly Mr Blair and Mr Cable need to try much harder!
Which survey shows leave still leading? The most recent Survation has remain well ahead.
The UK needs to prepare itself for weaker economic performance, two major forecasting groups have said, in the latest studies predicting the downsides of the Brexit vote.
Fragile business sentiment linked to Brexit-related anxiety, domestic political uncertainty and squeezed consumer budgets have caused UK business confidence to drop to its lowest point for almost six years, the economic consultancy IHS Markit reports.
Meanwhile, Britain’s economic growth will continue to weaken this year due to a Brexit-related consumer-spending squeeze and muted earnings growth, the EY Item Club said in the latest downgrading of its forecasts.
"The BBC will offer protection to stars who receive online abuse and threats when their salaries are published this week.
The corporation’s bosses are braced for attacks on presenters and other high paid ‘talent’ when the list of stars earning £150,000 or more is made public.
A BBC source said: “People are extremely worried about safety, not only for themselves but also their families. There is a worry they will receive a torrent of abuse online.”
"The BBC will offer protection to stars who receive online abuse and threats when their salaries are published this week.
The corporation’s bosses are braced for attacks on presenters and other high paid ‘talent’ when the list of stars earning £150,000 or more is made public.
A BBC source said: “People are extremely worried about safety, not only for themselves but also their families. There is a worry they will receive a torrent of abuse online.”
Nice to see leave still leading. The fundementals have not changed and other than a couple of million floaters in the middle it would be hard to understand why anyone leave or remain would have switched sides. Clearly Mr Blair and Mr Cable need to try much harder!
Which survey shows leave still leading? The most recent Survation has remain well ahead.
"The BBC will offer protection to stars who receive online abuse and threats when their salaries are published this week.
The corporation’s bosses are braced for attacks on presenters and other high paid ‘talent’ when the list of stars earning £150,000 or more is made public.
A BBC source said: “People are extremely worried about safety, not only for themselves but also their families. There is a worry they will receive a torrent of abuse online.”
They could always choose to take a lower salary...
Nobody forces them to read twitter or facebook. But my taxpayer cash is going to be used to give stress counselling to the precious snowflakes when we give impotently rage at them on a computer screen? Meh.
"The BBC will offer protection to stars who receive online abuse and threats when their salaries are published this week.
The corporation’s bosses are braced for attacks on presenters and other high paid ‘talent’ when the list of stars earning £150,000 or more is made public.
A BBC source said: “People are extremely worried about safety, not only for themselves but also their families. There is a worry they will receive a torrent of abuse online.”
"The BBC will offer protection to stars who receive online abuse and threats when their salaries are published this week.
The corporation’s bosses are braced for attacks on presenters and other high paid ‘talent’ when the list of stars earning £150,000 or more is made public.
A BBC source said: “People are extremely worried about safety, not only for themselves but also their families. There is a worry they will receive a torrent of abuse online.”
They could always choose to take a lower salary...
Nobody forces them to read twitter or facebook. But my taxpayer cash is going to be used to give stress counselling to the precious snowflakes when we give impotently rage at them on a computer screen? Meh.
I'm so happy to be no longer paying the tax to fund these egos!
"The BBC will offer protection to stars who receive online abuse and threats when their salaries are published this week.
The corporation’s bosses are braced for attacks on presenters and other high paid ‘talent’ when the list of stars earning £150,000 or more is made public.
A BBC source said: “People are extremely worried about safety, not only for themselves but also their families. There is a worry they will receive a torrent of abuse online.”
Britain Elects @britainelects 22h22 hours ago Westminster voting intention: LAB: 43% (-2) CON: 41% (+2) LDEM: 5% (-) UKIP: 5% (-) GRN: 2% (-) (via @OpiniumResearch, 11 - 14 Jul Britain Elects @britainelects Jul 15 On who would make best Prime Minister: T. May: 43% J. Corbyn: 35% (via @Survation, 14 - 15 Jul) Britain Elects @britainelects Jul 15 Westminster voting intention: LAB: 41% (-4) CON: 39% (-) LDEM: 8% (+1) UKIP: 6% (+2) (via @Survation, 14 - 15 Jul)
So YG is the third poll showing Labour falling since the election.
Yes, I think Labour is suffering a bit from being out of the limelight, though there are worse things than being ahead in every poll less than two months after an election. The Tory chaos is embarrassing, but it does tend to remind people that the Tories are in power and thus more or less the only game in town at the moment. I wouldn't invest too much hope or despair in this pattern, though.
Nice to see leave still leading. The fundementals have not changed and other than a couple of million floaters in the middle it would be hard to understand why anyone leave or remain would have switched sides. Clearly Mr Blair and Mr Cable need to try much harder!
Which survey shows leave still leading? The most recent Survation has remain well ahead.
"The BBC will offer protection to stars who receive online abuse and threats when their salaries are published this week.
The corporation’s bosses are braced for attacks on presenters and other high paid ‘talent’ when the list of stars earning £150,000 or more is made public.
A BBC source said: “People are extremely worried about safety, not only for themselves but also their families. There is a worry they will receive a torrent of abuse online.”
"The BBC will offer protection to stars who receive online abuse and threats when their salaries are published this week.
The corporation’s bosses are braced for attacks on presenters and other high paid ‘talent’ when the list of stars earning £150,000 or more is made public.
A BBC source said: “People are extremely worried about safety, not only for themselves but also their families. There is a worry they will receive a torrent of abuse online.”
"The BBC will offer protection to stars who receive online abuse and threats when their salaries are published this week.
The corporation’s bosses are braced for attacks on presenters and other high paid ‘talent’ when the list of stars earning £150,000 or more is made public.
A BBC source said: “People are extremely worried about safety, not only for themselves but also their families. There is a worry they will receive a torrent of abuse online.”
Britain Elects @britainelects 22h22 hours ago Westminster voting intention: LAB: 43% (-2) CON: 41% (+2) LDEM: 5% (-) UKIP: 5% (-) GRN: 2% (-) (via @OpiniumResearch, 11 - 14 Jul Britain Elects @britainelects Jul 15 On who would make best Prime Minister: T. May: 43% J. Corbyn: 35% (via @Survation, 14 - 15 Jul) Britain Elects @britainelects Jul 15 Westminster voting intention: LAB: 41% (-4) CON: 39% (-) LDEM: 8% (+1) UKIP: 6% (+2) (via @Survation, 14 - 15 Jul)
So YG is the third poll showing Labour falling since the election.
Yes, I think Labour is suffering a bit from being out of the limelight, though there are worse things than being ahead in every poll less than two months after an election. The Tory chaos is embarrassing, but it does tend to remind people that the Tories are in power and thus more or less the only game in town at the moment. I wouldn't invest too much hope or despair in this pattern, though.
This time next year the Conservatives will be in the low 30s in the polls .
Google "how brexit should be done" to see it outside the paywall.
It is a good article that I in particular recommend Leavers should read, who think things aren't turning out the way they hoped.
I think the EU are doing as a good as job as they can on their immediate objectives (orderly exit and the inevitable damage of Brexit to fall on the UK rather than them). The UK hasn't articulated its objective, but the main one should be continuity. We want things to carry on in the same way out of membership as we obtained through membership. Out of membership arrangements for the UK are a hard sell to make to the EU, given they need to shore up their operation and so boost the value of membership. However it is something the EU need to address given we are not going back into the EU and they will want us on their side. It's coming up with carefully calibrated offer to the UK that is sufficiently costly and poor value that membership is always the better option, but not such bad value no-one would take it.
Britain Elects @britainelects 22h22 hours ago Westminster voting intention: LAB: 43% (-2) CON: 41% (+2) LDEM: 5% (-) UKIP: 5% (-) GRN: 2% (-) (via @OpiniumResearch, 11 - 14 Jul Britain Elects @britainelects Jul 15 On who would make best Prime Minister: T. May: 43% J. Corbyn: 35% (via @Survation, 14 - 15 Jul) Britain Elects @britainelects Jul 15 Westminster voting intention: LAB: 41% (-4) CON: 39% (-) LDEM: 8% (+1) UKIP: 6% (+2) (via @Survation, 14 - 15 Jul)
So YG is the third poll showing Labour falling since the election.
Yes, I think Labour is suffering a bit from being out of the limelight, though there are worse things than being ahead in every poll less than two months after an election. The Tory chaos is embarrassing, but it does tend to remind people that the Tories are in power and thus more or less the only game in town at the moment. I wouldn't invest too much hope or despair in this pattern, though.
Agreed - early days but to me astonishing, given the headlines and media narrative - not least on here - and a reminder of how out of touch the village continues to be.
Just so I understand: what you are saying is that we can insert ourselves into deals even if parties to those deals say that we can't? Are you Owen Paterson?
Is what Patterson is saying so unreasonable? It might be unachievable but it seems to be the agricultural equivalent of the BMW argument -- that the EU should give us free access because otherwise tariffs will harm BMW French farmers.
Read it again.
I have done twice. It is true that proportionally the UK exchequer would receive more in tariffs than the EU would. Not sure which part you're objecting to.
The importer pays the tariffs, not the exporter.
Not exactly.
Technically that's true but then that's like saying that the consumer pays VAT or duties etc. While that may again technically be true, the reality is that companies have spent a fortune on lawyers and lobbyists to get their products either VAT-free or having a lower duty etc
Because VAT/duty/tariffs hurt the supplier. Even if technically the consumer pays.
"The BBC will offer protection to stars who receive online abuse and threats when their salaries are published this week.
The corporation’s bosses are braced for attacks on presenters and other high paid ‘talent’ when the list of stars earning £150,000 or more is made public.
A BBC source said: “People are extremely worried about safety, not only for themselves but also their families. There is a worry they will receive a torrent of abuse online.”
They could always choose to take a lower salary...
When Spreadsheet Phil talked about overpaid public sector workers, these ones are definitely top of the list!
May and her cabinet including Hammond are all public sector workers and definitely top of the list for being overpaid .
Ah, but we can sack them (notice we chose not to last month). Unfortunately the same does not apply to BBC "talent".
58% of voters chose to sack them last month but that majority was ignored .
I guess it's asking too much for a Liberal Democrat to understand how the electoral system works - just think how they've struggled with the EU referendum result.
Britain Elects @britainelects 22h22 hours ago Westminster voting intention: LAB: 43% (-2) CON: 41% (+2) LDEM: 5% (-) UKIP: 5% (-) GRN: 2% (-) (via @OpiniumResearch, 11 - 14 Jul Britain Elects @britainelects Jul 15 On who would make best Prime Minister: T. May: 43% J. Corbyn: 35% (via @Survation, 14 - 15 Jul) Britain Elects @britainelects Jul 15 Westminster voting intention: LAB: 41% (-4) CON: 39% (-) LDEM: 8% (+1) UKIP: 6% (+2) (via @Survation, 14 - 15 Jul)
So YG is the third poll showing Labour falling since the election.
Yes, I think Labour is suffering a bit from being out of the limelight, though there are worse things than being ahead in every poll less than two months after an election. The Tory chaos is embarrassing, but it does tend to remind people that the Tories are in power and thus more or less the only game in town at the moment. I wouldn't invest too much hope or despair in this pattern, though.
This time next year the Conservatives will be in the low 30s in the polls .
And Devon and Cornwall will go LD en masse just as they did in 2015 and 2017
Despite the media barrage, a majority still think Brexit is the right thing to do.
Due to the media barrage, 73% also think the final Brexit bill will be a maximum of £10 billion. When that is revised upwards attitudes will (regrettably) harden.
Britain Elects @britainelects 22h22 hours ago Westminster voting intention: LAB: 43% (-2) CON: 41% (+2) LDEM: 5% (-) UKIP: 5% (-) GRN: 2% (-) (via @OpiniumResearch, 11 - 14 Jul Britain Elects @britainelects Jul 15 On who would make best Prime Minister: T. May: 43% J. Corbyn: 35% (via @Survation, 14 - 15 Jul) Britain Elects @britainelects Jul 15 Westminster voting intention: LAB: 41% (-4) CON: 39% (-) LDEM: 8% (+1) UKIP: 6% (+2) (via @Survation, 14 - 15 Jul)
So YG is the third poll showing Labour falling since the election.
Yes, I think Labour is suffering a bit from being out of the limelight, though there are worse things than being ahead in every poll less than two months after an election. The Tory chaos is embarrassing, but it does tend to remind people that the Tories are in power and thus more or less the only game in town at the moment. I wouldn't invest too much hope or despair in this pattern, though.
The collapse of the UKIP and LibDem votes, as well as the comeback in Scotland, mean Labour has a much higher floor than it did just a few months ago. But given the strength of the anti-Labour vote, that probably means the days of 20, maybe even 10, point opinion poll leads for either party are behind us for a while.
In earlier times she would not have been toppled within days. There have only been two previous occasions with similar circumstances; 1). 1923 Stanley Baldwin needlessly lost his majority but survived to win the following election. 2). 1974. Heath did even worse -lost his majority and made Tories second biggest party but was allowed to lose again and still survive for a year. There is no precedent at all for a PM being forced to resign after having stayed in office after a general election. Indeed, May's replacement after having been voted back as PM could be seen as deeply undemocratic.
Britain Elects @britainelects 22h22 hours ago Westminster voting intention: LAB: 43% (-2) CON: 41% (+2) LDEM: 5% (-) UKIP: 5% (-) GRN: 2% (-) (via @OpiniumResearch, 11 - 14 Jul Britain Elects @britainelects Jul 15 On who would make best Prime Minister: T. May: 43% J. Corbyn: 35% (via @Survation, 14 - 15 Jul) Britain Elects @britainelects Jul 15 Westminster voting intention: LAB: 41% (-4) CON: 39% (-) LDEM: 8% (+1) UKIP: 6% (+2) (via @Survation, 14 - 15 Jul)
So YG is the third poll showing Labour falling since the election.
Yes, I think Labour is suffering a bit from being out of the limelight, though there are worse things than being ahead in every poll less than two months after an election. The Tory chaos is embarrassing, but it does tend to remind people that the Tories are in power and thus more or less the only game in town at the moment. I wouldn't invest too much hope or despair in this pattern, though.
The collapse of the UKIP and LibDem votes, as well as the comeback in Scotland, mean Labour has a much higher floor than it did just a few months ago. But given the strength of the anti-Labour vote, that probably means the days of 20, maybe even 10, point opinion poll leads for either party are behind us for a while.
Given the recent polling shambles that would be no bad thing. The nation remains hopelessly divided.
David Davis has returned to London, leaving the negotiations in the hands of the professionals, while he gets back for other activities:
Is Davis more interested in negotiating his takeover of Downing Street?
It seems the obvious conclusion. Why else would the Brexit minister abandon the talks immediately after the photoshoot?
Surely the explanation is that Davis knows what is going to happen and does not need to be there. It's just a matter of when the EU caves and gives the UK all that it wants. Once that occurs he can be back in Brussels in no time at all.
The Tories don't have to panic too much until there is consistent polling of,within MOE, 36% or under for them.The sense of paralysis,a zombie government,and cabinet disunity won't help but the thing that will really cut into the Tory's lead is food inflation and inflation of prices in other essential areas of household spending.This isn't Project Fear.Being a sad old git,I monitor my weekly shopping spend and my 250gm own brand block butter has gone from 96p to £1.18p in a matter on months.,a rise of 13.5%.This whole question then leads to the low-pay virus that is affecting the UK and the stagnation of incomes.I think these fundamental economic reasons will be the ones to take the Tory % down.The other danger for them is when voters can see Ulster with its A&Es flourishing A&E is closing in England and the same for schools,libraries,childrens' centres etc.
Boris is the only one who could sell a sellout. He's been able to pivot his opinions non stop, no one views him as principled, and yet they don't seem to mind. He is probably the individual who most impacted on the vote (Farage being more influential in getting the vote than winning it), and could carry over more wavering brexiteers if he was to abandon the cause. Boris giveth the brexit, Boris taketh away.
Google "how brexit should be done" to see it outside the paywall.
It is a good article that I in particular recommend Leavers should read, who think things aren't turning out the way they hoped.
I think the EU are doing as a good as job as they can on their immediate objectives (orderly exit and the inevitable damage of Brexit to fall on the UK rather than them). The UK hasn't articulated its objective, but the main one should be continuity. We want things to carry on in the same way out of membership as we obtained through membership. Out of membership arrangements for the UK are a hard sell to make to the EU, given they need to shore up their operation and so boost the value of membership. However it is something the EU need to address given we are not going back into the EU and they will want us on their side. It's coming up with carefully calibrated offer to the UK that is sufficiently costly and poor value that membership is always the better option, but not such bad value no-one would take it.
It is very good indeed. The grown-up approach it proposes would bring on board a lot of very worried Remain voters who recognise the result and the fact that it must be respected, but who see a government making a complete hash of the departure process.
I'd also add one other point: we should make clear that there is no demand that the EU27 could make that would lead to us to quit the negotiating table. We reserve the right to reject proposals, but we are absolutely committed to finding solutions to all impasses at every stage. If the EU27 wish to walk away that is a matter for them and something that each member state government will then have to justify to its voters.
May and her cabinet including Hammond are all public sector workers and definitely top of the list for being overpaid .
Ah, but we can sack them (notice we chose not to last month). Unfortunately the same does not apply to BBC "talent".
58% of voters chose to sack them last month but that majority was ignored .
Another reminder of our failing electoral system. Alas!
Fortunately the voters got the LD totals right except in Westmorland by a few handfuls of votes.
We ended up with the result we did, because the Tories cheated, as they always do.
What the tories cheated themselves out of a majority? What are you on?
What is it about you overseas Tories that you always try to insinuate that people you disagree with are consuming hard drugs? Just asking.....
No. the victims of the cheating on the part of the Conservatives are firstly the electorate, and secondly the fairness of the electoral system. And thirdly, of course, the legitimacy of the Conservative government.
These numbers completely back up what I have been saying. Theresa May is now starting to recover because people admire her getting on with the job and leaving politicking to the election campaign. Yet the leaks and sniping by the egos in the party hurt the party and could let in Corbyn.
She is just blundering about wondering what to do, no clue and no just getting on with the job, she has reverted to her previous do nothing and hope you don't get found out model.
May and her cabinet including Hammond are all public sector workers and definitely top of the list for being overpaid .
Ah, but we can sack them (notice we chose not to last month). Unfortunately the same does not apply to BBC "talent".
58% of voters chose to sack them last month but that majority was ignored .
Another reminder of our failing electoral system. Alas!
Fortunately the voters got the LD totals right except in Westmorland by a few handfuls of votes.
We ended up with the result we did, because the Tories cheated, as they always do.
What the tories cheated themselves out of a majority? What are you on?
What is it about you overseas Tories that you always try to insinuate that people you disagree with are consuming hard drugs? Just asking.....
No. the victims of the cheating on the part of the Conservatives are firstly the electorate, and secondly the fairness of the electoral system. And thirdly, of course, the legitimacy of the Conservative government.
What is it with LDs and their hostility to Brits in Europe? You said the Tories cheated - they LOST their majority! Apparently you are drug free which leaves only one conclusion to be drawn.
May and her cabinet including Hammond are all public sector workers and definitely top of the list for being overpaid .
Ah, but we can sack them (notice we chose not to last month). Unfortunately the same does not apply to BBC "talent".
58% of voters chose to sack them last month but that majority was ignored .
Another reminder of our failing electoral system. Alas!
Fortunately the voters got the LD totals right except in Westmorland by a few handfuls of votes.
We ended up with the result we did, because the Tories cheated, as they always do.
What the tories cheated themselves out of a majority? What are you on?
What is it about you overseas Tories that you always try to insinuate that people you disagree with are consuming hard drugs? Just asking.....
No. the victims of the cheating on the part of the Conservatives are firstly the electorate, and secondly the fairness of the electoral system. And thirdly, of course, the legitimacy of the Conservative government.
What is it with LDs and their hostility to Brits in Europe? You said the Tories cheated - they LOST their majority! Apparently you are drug free which leaves only one conclusion to be drawn.
No hostility towards Brits in Europe. Only towards gloating Tory knaves, wherever they may be found.
Yes, drug free.... I don`t know just what negative conclusion you would wish to draw from that....
For me, Brexit will not determine the next GE. Whatever the impact on the country, leavers will claim it would have been worse had we stayed in, and remainers will claim it would have been better. Both sides will say they have been vidicated; net result: broadly neutral.
Rather, I believe that unless there is a sea-change in government policy (unlikely), rising inequality will make it difficult for the Tories to win next time.
Today's Guardian opinion provides a very clear summary of how the very richest in our country have protected and ehanced their position at the expense of the rest since the crash.
"While the rest of society have shared in an equality of misery following the crash, the top 1% – households with incomes of £275,000 – have now recovered all the ground they lost during the world’s worst post-second world war slump. The share of income going to the very richest is now 8.5%. That’s double their share in 1985. The question has to be asked: has the value of the 1% in society doubled in the last 20 years? "
"The BBC will offer protection to stars who receive online abuse and threats when their salaries are published this week.
The corporation’s bosses are braced for attacks on presenters and other high paid ‘talent’ when the list of stars earning £150,000 or more is made public.
A BBC source said: “People are extremely worried about safety, not only for themselves but also their families. There is a worry they will receive a torrent of abuse online.”
Why would anyone abuse them unless they were being grossly overpaid? Ahh I see now. Time to raise the licence tax anyone?
I notice a trend like fake news...Now it is all about "abuse". While it is undoubted that abuse of politicians happens, what they really mean is harsh criticism, like diane abbott performance during the GE campaign.
trump won due to fake news, now get caught with a PR nightmare and cry potential for being abused.
Davis committed his own Brexit blunder the day Article 50 was triggered in March, according to EU and British officials, when he placed a call to Timo Soini, Finland’s foreign minister and a critic of the EU. Having been told he was speaking to Soini, Davis announced down the phone in enthusiastic terms that Brexit had begun, and that he needed the Finn’s support to secure a good deal from the EU. Only when he heard the voice at the other end of the line did Davis realize he was in fact speaking to Michel Barnier, the EU’s chief negotiator. It was the second time the two men had spoken since Davis was given the job.
On topic, it's tough but May needs to re-exert her authority and reign in her Cabinet if she wants to stay.
Clearly she has a confidence problem, but she needs to clear that up over the Summer. Electoral disaster or not she still has a chance of going down in the history books if she works hard over the next 2 years to get it right.
For me, Brexit will not determine the next GE. Whatever the impact on the country, leavers will claim it would have been worse had we stayed in, and remainers will claim it would have been better. Both sides will say they have been vidicated; net result: broadly neutral.
Rather, I believe that unless there is a sea-change in government policy (unlikely), rising inequality will make it difficult for the Tories to win next time.
Today's Guardian opinion provides a very clear summary of how the very richest in our country have protected and ehanced their position at the expense of the rest since the crash.
"While the rest of society have shared in an equality of misery following the crash, the top 1% – households with incomes of £275,000 – have now recovered all the ground they lost during the world’s worst post-second world war slump. The share of income going to the very richest is now 8.5%. That’s double their share in 1985. The question has to be asked: has the value of the 1% in society doubled in the last 20 years? "
It's somewhat misleading to portray 99% sharing an "equality of misery". There's a big difference between being in the top 20% or top 40%, and being in the bottom 20%.
For me, Brexit will not determine the next GE. Whatever the impact on the country, leavers will claim it would have been worse had we stayed in, and remainers will claim it would have been better. Both sides will say they have been vidicated; net result: broadly neutral.
Rather, I believe that unless there is a sea-change in government policy (unlikely), rising inequality will make it difficult for the Tories to win next time.
Today's Guardian opinion provides a very clear summary of how the very richest in our country have protected and ehanced their position at the expense of the rest since the crash.
"While the rest of society have shared in an equality of misery following the crash, the top 1% – households with incomes of £275,000 – have now recovered all the ground they lost during the world’s worst post-second world war slump. The share of income going to the very richest is now 8.5%. That’s double their share in 1985. The question has to be asked: has the value of the 1% in society doubled in the last 20 years? "
It's somewhat misleading to portray 99% sharing an "equality of misery". There's a big difference between being in the top 20% or top 40%, and being in the bottom 20%.
Yes, that's a fair point, that comment is somewhat over the top. But I still think the overall thrust of the piece is correct.
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Anyone noticing UKIP gradually going up in the polls ?
The Tory party nowadays don't have the ba**s to do it.
Mr Grayling told the BBC's Today programme that the high-speed rail network will be "on time, on budget" and the government has "a clear idea of what it will cost".
Then I checked his Wikipedia entry and realised Chris Grayling was only 55, and not in his mid sixties, as his appearance and demeanour suggest...
https://twitter.com/odysseanproject/status/886929423861207040
https://twitter.com/davidallengreen/status/886929198954184704
Westminster voting intention: LAB: 43% (-2) CON: 41% (+2) LDEM: 5% (-) UKIP: 5% (-) GRN: 2% (-) (via @OpiniumResearch, 11 - 14 Jul
Britain Elects @britainelects Jul 15
On who would make best Prime Minister: T. May: 43% J. Corbyn: 35% (via @Survation, 14 - 15 Jul)
Britain Elects @britainelects Jul 15
Westminster voting intention: LAB: 41% (-4) CON: 39% (-) LDEM: 8% (+1) UKIP: 6% (+2) (via @Survation, 14 - 15 Jul)
So YG is the third poll showing Labour falling since the election.
http://survation.com/the-eu-referendum-where-the-uk-stands-today-should-the-united-kingdom-remain-a-member-of-the-european-union/
NOT.
"The BBC will offer protection to stars who receive online abuse and threats when their salaries are published this week.
The corporation’s bosses are braced for attacks on presenters and other high paid ‘talent’ when the list of stars earning £150,000 or more is made public.
A BBC source said: “People are extremely worried about safety, not only for themselves but also their families. There is a worry they will receive a torrent of abuse online.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/16/bbc-offers-protect-stars-abuse-gears-publish-150k-plus-salaries/
Perhaps if there was more objectivity and focus on believable stories rather than making MAJOR HEADLINES from thin gruel such as made-up leaks or someone on our negotiating team not tweeting enough then perhaps voters would be more likely to accept any shortcomings from the situation we find ourselves in.
Either way I doubt the position of voters will change too much, views are largely entrenched which is why the June 23rd vote is irreversible from the point Article 50 was enacted.
They could always choose to take a lower salary...
Fragile business sentiment linked to Brexit-related anxiety, domestic political uncertainty and squeezed consumer budgets have caused UK business confidence to drop to its lowest point for almost six years, the economic consultancy IHS Markit reports.
Meanwhile, Britain’s economic growth will continue to weaken this year due to a Brexit-related consumer-spending squeeze and muted earnings growth, the EY Item Club said in the latest downgrading of its forecasts.
https://twitter.com/odysseanproject/status/886932445353869312
He's not a fan:
https://twitter.com/odysseanproject/status/886933116371251200
If there were another referendum on the UK’s membership of the EU, how would you vote?
Leave 48%
Remain 47%
Undecided 5%
(With undecided removed)
Leave 50% (+1)
Remain 50% (-1)
https://www.ft.com/content/4278146d-67e9-3430-8711-0d3e6d74c25e
Google "how brexit should be done" to see it outside the paywall.
https://twitter.com/europeelects/status/886938129663483905
I think the EU are doing as a good as job as they can on their immediate objectives (orderly exit and the inevitable damage of Brexit to fall on the UK rather than them). The UK hasn't articulated its objective, but the main one should be continuity. We want things to carry on in the same way out of membership as we obtained through membership. Out of membership arrangements for the UK are a hard sell to make to the EU, given they need to shore up their operation and so boost the value of membership. However it is something the EU need to address given we are not going back into the EU and they will want us on their side. It's coming up with carefully calibrated offer to the UK that is sufficiently costly and poor value that membership is always the better option, but not such bad value no-one would take it.
Technically that's true but then that's like saying that the consumer pays VAT or duties etc. While that may again technically be true, the reality is that companies have spent a fortune on lawyers and lobbyists to get their products either VAT-free or having a lower duty etc
Because VAT/duty/tariffs hurt the supplier. Even if technically the consumer pays.
David Davis has returned from Brussels after two or three hours there
Google "David Davis returns from Brexit talks after lightning Brussels trip" or this link MIGHT work
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:dqrs3qxaAPIJ:https://www.ft.com/content/a11de5ea-6ae5-11e7-b9c7-15af748b60d0?mhq5j=e2+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk
There have only been two previous occasions with similar circumstances; 1). 1923 Stanley Baldwin needlessly lost his majority but survived to win the following election. 2). 1974. Heath did even worse -lost his majority and made Tories second biggest party but was allowed to lose again and still survive for a year. There is no precedent at all for a PM being forced to resign after having stayed in office after a general election. Indeed, May's replacement after having been voted back as PM could be seen as deeply undemocratic.
I'd also add one other point: we should make clear that there is no demand that the EU27 could make that would lead to us to quit the negotiating table. We reserve the right to reject proposals, but we are absolutely committed to finding solutions to all impasses at every stage. If the EU27 wish to walk away that is a matter for them and something that each member state government will then have to justify to its voters.
She won the election.
Labour voters didnt vote twice then?
No. the victims of the cheating on the part of the Conservatives are firstly the electorate, and secondly the fairness of the electoral system. And thirdly, of course, the legitimacy of the Conservative government.
https://www.ft.com/content/b3630088-6ac6-11e7-b9c7-15af748b60d0
"The democratic case for stopping Brexit"
Labour 40%
Tories 42%
Labour 262 seats
Tories 317 seats.
SURVIVAL IS VICTORY!
Yes, drug free.... I don`t know just what negative conclusion you would wish to draw from that....
Q: Who is Prime Minister right now?
A:
Rather, I believe that unless there is a sea-change in government policy (unlikely), rising inequality will make it difficult for the Tories to win next time.
Today's Guardian opinion provides a very clear summary of how the very richest in our country have protected and ehanced their position at the expense of the rest since the crash.
"While the rest of society have shared in an equality of misery following the crash, the top 1% – households with incomes of £275,000 – have now recovered all the ground they lost during the world’s worst post-second world war slump. The share of income going to the very richest is now 8.5%. That’s double their share in 1985. The question has to be asked: has the value of the 1% in society doubled in the last 20 years? "
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jul/16/the-guardian-view-on-the-1-all-gain-no-pain
Well worth a quick read imo.
trump won due to fake news, now get caught with a PR nightmare and cry potential for being abused.
Only when he heard the voice at the other end of the line did Davis realize he was in fact speaking to Michel Barnier, the EU’s chief negotiator. It was the second time the two men had spoken since Davis was given the job.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-14/britain-s-brexit-chaos-leaves-eu-friends-and-foes-bemused
Clearly she has a confidence problem, but she needs to clear that up over the Summer. Electoral disaster or not she still has a chance of going down in the history books if she works hard over the next 2 years to get it right.
How about:
Q: Who increased their number of seats?
A:
Rumours I am to be regenerated into Doris Dancer are grossly inaccurate.
Mr. Observer, that sounds less like a blunder and more like a set up.