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Labour sources now say three frontbenchers sacked for defying whip – Ruth Cadbury, Catherine West and Andy Slaughter
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Politics is as unpredictable as ever these days
"Facking splitters." Copyright Monty Python.
https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/880482967570829313
All the Labour MPs stood on that manifesto - they can't say they weren't warned.
BBC4's run of Top of the Pops episodes has reached 2nd February 1984:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/live/bbcfour
51 Labour rebels + un-declared Labour rebels + Lib Dems + breakaway Tories = new centrist party?
Interesting marker
Hotels near the O2 Arena and Brixton Academy-Help!
My middle lad has got some unpaid work next Monday and Tuesday at gigs at the above places in that there London. He needs a cheap hotel to stay somewhere with access to both. We're not talking the usual PB standard of hotel, the venues that serve diamond dusted swan poached in Siberian tiger semen, just somewhere where he's not going to get mugged for his camera and video equipment. I don't expect you to give me names, just any ideas of an area he should be looking at that is handy for both, and areas he definitely shouldn't be looking at!
Ta very muchly!
Has Jon "**** the Tories" Snow given his view on Jezza coming out for hard Brexit?
That is why he sacked the rebels. Three months back, he couldn't.
@Paristonda It's why I've always liked Stella more than I have Chuka. While I still do like Chuka, he is a careerist - much more than Stella is, who has actually done some genuinely good work in the past as a backbencher - like with Payday loans for example.
IMO, the "softest" possible Brexit that can both be negotiated and be accepted by the Great British Public, is one where there's considerably tighter controls on and reductions in levels of EU migration, in exchange for less broad access to the Single Market, even if it's still more privileged access than most non-EU countries.
[Personally, I do think staying in the Customs Union would be politically doable, because I really don't think a lot of Leave voters cared that much about "signing trade deals around the world", nor do I think it's seen as such a big part of "respecting the result" in the way that immigration is.]
Whatever happens, his position inside and outside the party is a lot stronger. I am not sure why he and the hard left are against the EU. In that respect how are they different from the hard right Tories ?
Blocking Brexit is a fringe view supported by only 30% of the public. Such a party would be extremist.
I can only see that coming about through a separate trade deal - years and years away. But I can also see why the EU - understandably, from their point of view - cannot be seen to be giving favourable terms to a Leaver. Would Hungary and other racist East Europeans countries not follow then ?
As it happens, I take the view that if we're going over Niagara in a barrel, we're going to have to do it to the extreme, but there are legitimately other views. Brexit isn't just what headbanging Leavers declare it to be.
It should not be forgotten that the Labour party is still primarily a pro-Remain party as are their voters.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40446102
What would be your headbangers vs deniers ratio on here? Are there any headbangers demanding hard brexit?
https://twitter.com/standardnews/status/880504265478897664
I said blocking it (altogether) is a minority view.....which it is.....
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2017/05/12/forget-52-rise-re-leavers-mean-pro-brexit-electora/
The country voted 85% for manifesto's that stated we will be leaving the single market but whether the public want that or not (and therefore seen as extreme) is another matter.
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2017/05/12/forget-52-rise-re-leavers-mean-pro-brexit-electora/
They surveyed 1,200 EU and non-EU nationals living in the UK and asked them if Brexit would make any difference to their willingness to stay in the UK.
The bit that was most concerning was that Brexit appeared to be discouraging exactly those people we wish to stay, with 47% of highly skilled workers from other EU countries now expecting to leave in the next five years. A far smaller proportion of low skilled workers planned on leaving.
My guess - and this is just a guess - that perceptions matter. The UK is seen as a less attractive place to emigrate to, and therefore our immigration levels will continue the fall seen from the middle of last year.
They say, 'the older, the wiser'.
Certainly it rings true in the Smithson family.
Which is pretty much what the polling showed.
It really doesn't matter what the Tories do. Labour will always be a shambles under their current leadership. I was told a year ago by someone who would know that Corbyn had the leadership qualities of a grasshopper. Theresa's thin majority is giving us all a laugh but it will never be exploited under Labour's current leadership.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3913814/jeremy-corbyn-forced-to-sack-six-frontbenchers-after-they-rebel-against-him-in-bid-to-keep-uk-in-single-market/
http://www.open-britain.co.uk/ge2017_key_seats
Whilst it would of course be a waste of his slot, since the government has to bring forward something on boundaries in due course anyway, it does (assuming true) indicate sufficient dissatisfaction with the 600 review amongst Tories to make it as good as dead, as yesterday's thread discussion concluded was probably the case.
I remain confident in that forecast.
(Note: falling population, plus massive quantity of new homes built = lower prices.)
"I reckon Corbo Glasto super fans won't actually care about this Brexit vote too much tbh. Suspect their adoration is bigger than Brexit."
Didn't she know that 'Corbo Glasto super fans' were just enjoying a nutty eccentric as the English have always done. They were just taking the piss in a nice way
Queens Speech passed =
Corbyn =
5 more years!!!
Were they genuinely abstaining - ie they didn't want to vote with Govt?
Or were they absent due to illness or some other reason?
If my suspicions of what went on in that tragedy are right, we will need a root-and-branch rethink of how we go about building in this country. Unfortunately any measures to 'fix' the system will make building more, not less, expensive. In some cases it may even increase the ongoing cost of ownership, especially for properties that are shared or leasehold.