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RobD

2015 was the best.

nunu

RobD said:

2015 was the best.

and 2017 the worst.

RobD

nunu said:

RobD said:

2015 was the best.

and 2017 the worst.

Swings and roundabouts.

nunu

1992 exit poll range: Con short by 10 or Lab short by 13....right clear as mud then.

tlg86

FPT:

tlg86 said:

SandyRentool said:

Just catching up on the news. Did UEFA really think Linfield v Celtic on the 12th of July was a good idea?

Also, Loathsome wants to take control of the media. How very Putinesque.

Apparently Celtic won't be taking any tickets for the game in Belfast which is a bit of a shame. There are suggestions that if Linfield can't guarantee the safety of the away fans, then the game should be moved to a neutral venue.

Scrapheap_as_was

RobD said:

nunu said:

RobD said:

2015 was the best.

and 2017 the worst.

Swings and roundabouts.

No wonder I'm feeling a little sick.

RobD

Scrapheap_as_was said:

RobD said:

nunu said:

RobD said:

2015 was the best.

and 2017 the worst.

Swings and roundabouts.

No wonder I'm feeling a little sick.

I keep the 2015 election on repeat.. it's the only thing that keeps me going....*twitch*

Scrapheap_as_was

BBC news website - FFS

"Corbyn draws crowds at Glastonbury"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news

Jonathan

2015 the ultimate phyrric victory.

Scrapheap_as_was

Jonathan said:

2015 the ultimate phyrric victory.

Yup.... but the expletives reaction to it was epic and lasted a year.... not great since then.

2017 at least has Scotland and 'those' 2 Tory wins but little else.

glw

I was listening to 5 Live this morning and there was a chap on who was asked "what are the government doing about Grenfell?" and he talked authoritatively about all the things the government has been doing for several minutes, without any waffle or "politics". He did such a good job there were no further questions and he was simply thanked for his comprehensive answer.

Based upon what he said I think the government's response to the fire is about as good as can be expected. I was genuinely impressed.

I didn't catch who he was but he sure as hell was on top of his brief. If he was an MP he needs promotion.

Morris_Dancer

F1: currently tempted to just leave it until tomorrow and see if the group markets emerge. Nothing really grabs my eye.

I'll wait a little longer, see how I feel. But if the pre-race article isn't up this evening, it's by choice, rather than me being decapitated by a low-flying flamingo.

Jonathan

Scrapheap_as_was said:

Jonathan said:

2015 the ultimate phyrric victory.

Yup.... but the expletives reaction to it was epic and lasted a year.... not great since then.

2017 at least has Scotland and 'those' 2 Tory wins but little else.

2015 is much more enjoyable now. It's like a what happened next video clip.

Morris_Dancer

Mr. Jonathan, Pyrrhic*.

Poor Pyrrhus. A very capable general best known amongst the masses for winning victories not worth having.

RobD

Scrapheap_as_was said:

BBC news website - FFS

"Corbyn draws crowds at Glastonbury"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news

Radio 1 have already had to delete a Corbyn tweet.

Scrapheap_as_was

RobD said:

Scrapheap_as_was said:

BBC news website - FFS

"Corbyn draws crowds at Glastonbury"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news

Radio 1 have already had to delete a Corbyn tweet.

this one?

https://twitter.com/MediaGuido/status/878662349200216065

nrs3079

Scrapheap_as_was said:

BBC news website - FFS

"Corbyn draws crowds at Glastonbury"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news

Yes another example of their balanced reporting. They're covering his trip to Tesco tomorrow while he does his weekly shop! I see Armed forces day is not even in their headlines section.

RobD

Scrapheap_as_was said:

Jonathan said:

2015 the ultimate phyrric victory.

Yup.... but the expletives reaction to it was epic and lasted a year.... not great since then.

2017 at least has Scotland and 'those' 2 Tory wins but little else.

Did we ever work out what the technical term for "multiplying by thirteen" was?

justin124

The vote shares given re-actual results are UK figures - rather than the GB figures provided by the pollsters.

Scrapheap_as_was

RobD said:

Scrapheap_as_was said:

Jonathan said:

2015 the ultimate phyrric victory.

Yup.... but the expletives reaction to it was epic and lasted a year.... not great since then.

2017 at least has Scotland and 'those' 2 Tory wins but little else.

Did we ever work out what the technical term for "multiplying by thirteen" was?

pandanth

RobD

Is @Sunil_Prasannan around? I'm now longing for the heady days of PB Tory chortling and tittering.

ThomasNashe

nrs3079 said:

Scrapheap_as_was said:

BBC news website - FFS

"Corbyn draws crowds at Glastonbury"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news

Yes another example of their balanced reporting. They're covering his trip to Tesco tomorrow while he does his weekly shop! I see Armed forces day is not even in their headlines section.

Was it only last month that it was the Corbynistas who were moaning about BBC bias? Now, it seems normality is restored, and were back to the usual Tory drones on the subject.

RobD

ThomasNashe said:

nrs3079 said:

Scrapheap_as_was said:

BBC news website - FFS

"Corbyn draws crowds at Glastonbury"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news

Yes another example of their balanced reporting. They're covering his trip to Tesco tomorrow while he does his weekly shop! I see Armed forces day is not even in their headlines section.

Was it only last month that it was the Corbynistas who were moaning about BBC bias? Now, it seems normality is restored, and were back to the usual Tory drones on the subject.

The Radio 1 one was a bit over the top though.

ThomasNashe

RobD said:

ThomasNashe said:

nrs3079 said:

Scrapheap_as_was said:

BBC news website - FFS

"Corbyn draws crowds at Glastonbury"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news

Yes another example of their balanced reporting. They're covering his trip to Tesco tomorrow while he does his weekly shop! I see Armed forces day is not even in their headlines section.

Was it only last month that it was the Corbynistas who were moaning about BBC bias? Now, it seems normality is restored, and were back to the usual Tory drones on the subject.

The Radio 1 one was a bit over the top though.

Having thought about it, the BBC probably realised that themselves. Hence its deletion.

isam

https://twitter.com/nickmotown/status/878670450599112709

JonnyJimmy

RobD said:

Scrapheap_as_was said:

Jonathan said:

2015 the ultimate phyrric victory.

Yup.... but the expletives reaction to it was epic and lasted a year.... not great since then.

2017 at least has Scotland and 'those' 2 Tory wins but little else.

Did we ever work out what the technical term for "multiplying by thirteen" was?

Tredecuple?

Essexit

nrs3079 said:

Scrapheap_as_was said:

BBC news website - FFS

"Corbyn draws crowds at Glastonbury"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news

Yes another example of their balanced reporting. They're covering his trip to Tesco tomorrow while he does his weekly shop! I see Armed forces day is not even in their headlines section.

Also inaccurate reporting - Mr Corbyn also commented on the recent election, which saw Prime Minister Theresa May's majority cut in the House of Commons...

glw

ThomasNashe said:

Having thought about it, the BBC probably realised that themselves. Hence its deletion.

What's the difference between Fox lauding Trump and the BBC lauding Corbyn? Not a lot.

rottenborough

ThomasNashe said:

nrs3079 said:

Scrapheap_as_was said:

BBC news website - FFS

"Corbyn draws crowds at Glastonbury"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news

Yes another example of their balanced reporting. They're covering his trip to Tesco tomorrow while he does his weekly shop! I see Armed forces day is not even in their headlines section.

Was it only last month that it was the Corbynistas who were moaning about BBC bias? Now, it seems normality is restored, and were back to the usual Tory drones on the subject.

Arguably from a journos perspective the story is a Glastonbury story, not a Corbyn story and this weekend the news and press want Glasto stories.

RobD

ThomasNashe said:

RobD said:

ThomasNashe said:

nrs3079 said:

Scrapheap_as_was said:

BBC news website - FFS

"Corbyn draws crowds at Glastonbury"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news

Yes another example of their balanced reporting. They're covering his trip to Tesco tomorrow while he does his weekly shop! I see Armed forces day is not even in their headlines section.

Was it only last month that it was the Corbynistas who were moaning about BBC bias? Now, it seems normality is restored, and were back to the usual Tory drones on the subject.

The Radio 1 one was a bit over the top though.

Having thought about it, the BBC probably realised that themselves. Hence its deletion.

Should never have been posted in the first place.

DecrepitJohnL

nrs3079 said:

Scrapheap_as_was said:

BBC news website - FFS

"Corbyn draws crowds at Glastonbury"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news

Yes another example of their balanced reporting. They're covering his trip to Tesco tomorrow while he does his weekly shop! I see Armed forces day is not even in their headlines section.

Armed forces day is on the news homepage, linked to
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40383981

RobD

glw said:

ThomasNashe said:

Having thought about it, the BBC probably realised that themselves. Hence its deletion.

What's the difference between Fox lauding Trump and the BBC lauding Corbyn? Not a lot.

One isn't a public broadcaster that is required to be neutral.

Chris

Trying to be serious for a moment, "Leader of the Opposition appears at Glastonbury" is objectively a more newsworthy story than "Prime Minister attends Armed Forces Day".

"Prime Minister appears at Glastonbury" would have been more newsworthy still. Though not necessarily in a good way.

Morris_Dancer

F1: irksome as it is, I'm going to look again tomorrow and see if the group/match markets are up. I quite liked them last time.

Hard to see anything I like much from what's there.

Anyway, I'm off.

DecrepitJohnL

Fire in Bethnal Green flats.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-40392587

ReggieCide

ThomasNashe said:

nrs3079 said:

Scrapheap_as_was said:

BBC news website - FFS

"Corbyn draws crowds at Glastonbury"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news

Yes another example of their balanced reporting. They're covering his trip to Tesco tomorrow while he does his weekly shop! I see Armed forces day is not even in their headlines section.

Was it only last month that it was the Corbynistas who were moaning about BBC bias? Now, it seems normality is restored, and were back to the usual Tory drones on the subject.

Now even the drones are Tory

alex.

glw said:

I was listening to 5 Live this morning and there was a chap on who was asked "what are the government doing about Grenfell?" and he talked authoritatively about all the things the government has been doing for several minutes, without any waffle or "politics". He did such a good job there were no further questions and he was simply thanked for his comprehensive answer.

Based upon what he said I think the government's response to the fire is about as good as can be expected. I was genuinely impressed.

I didn't catch who he was but he sure as hell was on top of his brief. If he was an MP he needs promotion.

Sajid Javid?

williamglenn

https://twitter.com/telegraph/status/878670368977948672

nunu

DecrepitJohnL said:

Fire in Bethnal Green flats.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-40392587

phew....it's not a high rise.

ReggieCide

isam said:

https://twitter.com/nickmotown/status/878670450599112709

I see Corbyn has dressed to hide his erection

RobD

nunu said:

DecrepitJohnL said:

Fire in Bethnal Green flats.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-40392587

phew....it's not a high rise.

How many years was it since a big fire in a high rise at the time of Grenfell?

nunu

williamglenn said:

https://twitter.com/telegraph/status/878670368977948672

is that BoJo exiting left?!

ReggieCide

Essexit said:

nrs3079 said:

Scrapheap_as_was said:

BBC news website - FFS

"Corbyn draws crowds at Glastonbury"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news

Yes another example of their balanced reporting. They're covering his trip to Tesco tomorrow while he does his weekly shop! I see Armed forces day is not even in their headlines section.

Also inaccurate reporting - Mr Corbyn also commented on the recent election, which saw Prime Minister Theresa May's majority cut in the House of Commons...

That must have been its economy editor showing off his knowledge about cuts.

MikeSmithson

RobD said:

glw said:

ThomasNashe said:

Having thought about it, the BBC probably realised that themselves. Hence its deletion.

What's the difference between Fox lauding Trump and the BBC lauding Corbyn? Not a lot.

One isn't a public broadcaster that is required to be neutral.

Not the Tory BBC-haters again. Saddos

glw

alex. said:

Sajid Javid?

I think it was him, he really seemed to know about all the things being done across the country.

Essexit

MikeSmithson said:

RobD said:

glw said:

ThomasNashe said:

Having thought about it, the BBC probably realised that themselves. Hence its deletion.

What's the difference between Fox lauding Trump and the BBC lauding Corbyn? Not a lot.

One isn't a public broadcaster that is required to be neutral.

Not the Tory BBC-haters again. Saddos

I don't hate the BBC, they make a lot of good stuff. They also make some questionable decisions on their news and current affairs balance, for instance having a QT panel on Thursday with 4 Remainers on a panel of 5.

DecrepitJohnL

glw said:

alex. said:

Sajid Javid?

I think it was him, he really seemed to know about all the things being done across the country.

Good. Some of us said here on day one that the steps to be taken were reasonably obvious -- rehousing, nationwide inspections and so on -- and the Prime Minister should just announce them from Downing Street rather than pointlessly visit Grenfell. The PM needs to be Theresa May, resolute and in control, not a pale imitation of David Cameron shaking hands with firefighters and families.

tlg86

MikeSmithson said:

RobD said:

glw said:

ThomasNashe said:

Having thought about it, the BBC probably realised that themselves. Hence its deletion.

What's the difference between Fox lauding Trump and the BBC lauding Corbyn? Not a lot.

One isn't a public broadcaster that is required to be neutral.

Not the Tory BBC-haters again. Saddos

Lol! The BBC have just had to delete a Tweet because it broke impartiality rules. Earlier this week the BBC had to apologise for allowing an Islamist to slander Maajid Nawaz and Douglas Murray.

The BBC doesn't do itself any favours.

williamglenn

Essexit said:

MikeSmithson said:

RobD said:

glw said:

ThomasNashe said:

Having thought about it, the BBC probably realised that themselves. Hence its deletion.

What's the difference between Fox lauding Trump and the BBC lauding Corbyn? Not a lot.

One isn't a public broadcaster that is required to be neutral.

Not the Tory BBC-haters again. Saddos

I don't hate the BBC, they make a lot of good stuff. They also make some questionable decisions on their news and current affairs balance, for instance having a QT panel on Thursday with 4 Remainers on a panel of 5.

You can't have it both ways. If you want to argue that 80% of people have just voted for Brexit then you must consider that there were 3 Brexiteers on that panel of 5, not 1, since you obviously put both Lidington and Ashworth in the Brexit camp.

FrancisUrquhart

Scrapheap_as_was said:

RobD said:

Scrapheap_as_was said:

BBC news website - FFS

"Corbyn draws crowds at Glastonbury"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news

Radio 1 have already had to delete a Corbyn tweet.

this one?

twitter.com/MediaGuido/status/878662349200216065

Too many tweets make a.....

surbiton

RobD said:

ThomasNashe said:

RobD said:

ThomasNashe said:

nrs3079 said:

Scrapheap_as_was said:

BBC news website - FFS

"Corbyn draws crowds at Glastonbury"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news

Yes another example of their balanced reporting. They're covering his trip to Tesco tomorrow while he does his weekly shop! I see Armed forces day is not even in their headlines section.

Was it only last month that it was the Corbynistas who were moaning about BBC bias? Now, it seems normality is restored, and were back to the usual Tory drones on the subject.

The Radio 1 one was a bit over the top though.

Having thought about it, the BBC probably realised that themselves. Hence its deletion.

Should never have been posted in the first place.

Disagree. The BBC should not have an opinion but it should provide news. Corbyn speaking to vast crowds in Glastonbury is indeed news as is May's regimented appearance in Liverpool.

MikeSmithson

tlg86 said:

MikeSmithson said:

RobD said:

glw said:

ThomasNashe said:

Having thought about it, the BBC probably realised that themselves. Hence its deletion.

What's the difference between Fox lauding Trump and the BBC lauding Corbyn? Not a lot.

One isn't a public broadcaster that is required to be neutral.

Not the Tory BBC-haters again. Saddos

Lol! The BBC have just had to delete a Tweet because it broke impartiality rules. Earlier this week the BBC had to apologise for allowing an Islamist to slander Maajid Nawaz and Douglas Murray.

The BBC doesn't do itself any favours.

Another saddo.

MaxPB

Just had a great bit of stilton and a decent NZ white. Life is good.

GeoffM

MikeSmithson said:

RobD said:

glw said:

ThomasNashe said:

Having thought about it, the BBC probably realised that themselves. Hence its deletion.

What's the difference between Fox lauding Trump and the BBC lauding Corbyn? Not a lot.

One isn't a public broadcaster that is required to be neutral.

Not the Tory BBC-haters again. Saddos

Not just Tories. BBC bashing is non-denominational.

biasedbbc.org

FrancisUrquhart

MikeSmithson said:

tlg86 said:

MikeSmithson said:

RobD said:

glw said:

ThomasNashe said:

Having thought about it, the BBC probably realised that themselves. Hence its deletion.

What's the difference between Fox lauding Trump and the BBC lauding Corbyn? Not a lot.

One isn't a public broadcaster that is required to be neutral.

Not the Tory BBC-haters again. Saddos

Lol! The BBC have just had to delete a Tweet because it broke impartiality rules. Earlier this week the BBC had to apologise for allowing an Islamist to slander Maajid Nawaz and Douglas Murray.

The BBC doesn't do itself any favours.

Another saddo.

Somebodies in a bad mood.

Casino_Royale

nunu said:

RobD said:

2015 was the best.

and 2017 the worst.

+1

Essexit

MikeSmithson said:

tlg86 said:

MikeSmithson said:

RobD said:

glw said:

ThomasNashe said:

Having thought about it, the BBC probably realised that themselves. Hence its deletion.

What's the difference between Fox lauding Trump and the BBC lauding Corbyn? Not a lot.

One isn't a public broadcaster that is required to be neutral.

Not the Tory BBC-haters again. Saddos

Lol! The BBC have just had to delete a Tweet because it broke impartiality rules. Earlier this week the BBC had to apologise for allowing an Islamist to slander Maajid Nawaz and Douglas Murray.

The BBC doesn't do itself any favours.

Another saddo.

An odd response to @tlg86 pointing out salient facts that contradict your view.

tlg86

surbiton said:

RobD said:

ThomasNashe said:

RobD said:

ThomasNashe said:

nrs3079 said:

Scrapheap_as_was said:

BBC news website - FFS

"Corbyn draws crowds at Glastonbury"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news

Yes another example of their balanced reporting. They're covering his trip to Tesco tomorrow while he does his weekly shop! I see Armed forces day is not even in their headlines section.

Was it only last month that it was the Corbynistas who were moaning about BBC bias? Now, it seems normality is restored, and were back to the usual Tory drones on the subject.

The Radio 1 one was a bit over the top though.

Having thought about it, the BBC probably realised that themselves. Hence its deletion.

Should never have been posted in the first place.

Disagree. The BBC should not have an opinion but it should provide news. Corbyn speaking to vast crowds in Glastonbury is indeed news as is May's regimented appearance in Liverpool.

The Tweet wasn't from the News feed reporting in a neutral way with something like "Corbyn addresses crowds at Glastonbury."

Casino_Royale

MikeSmithson said:

tlg86 said:

MikeSmithson said:

RobD said:

glw said:

ThomasNashe said:

Having thought about it, the BBC probably realised that themselves. Hence its deletion.

What's the difference between Fox lauding Trump and the BBC lauding Corbyn? Not a lot.

One isn't a public broadcaster that is required to be neutral.

Not the Tory BBC-haters again. Saddos

Lol! The BBC have just had to delete a Tweet because it broke impartiality rules. Earlier this week the BBC had to apologise for allowing an Islamist to slander Maajid Nawaz and Douglas Murray.

The BBC doesn't do itself any favours.

Another saddo.

Malcolm, is that you?

Casino_Royale

Exit polls: funny in hindsight; absolutely bloody terrifying at the time.

I almost had a heart attack this GE.

Pulpstar

Casino_Royale said:

Exit polls: funny in hindsight; absolutely bloody terrifying at the time.

I almost had a heart attack this GE.

You're not the only one !

Essexit

williamglenn said:

Essexit said:

MikeSmithson said:

RobD said:

glw said:

ThomasNashe said:

Having thought about it, the BBC probably realised that themselves. Hence its deletion.

What's the difference between Fox lauding Trump and the BBC lauding Corbyn? Not a lot.

One isn't a public broadcaster that is required to be neutral.

Not the Tory BBC-haters again. Saddos

I don't hate the BBC, they make a lot of good stuff. They also make some questionable decisions on their news and current affairs balance, for instance having a QT panel on Thursday with 4 Remainers on a panel of 5.

You can't have it both ways. If you want to argue that 80% of people have just voted for Brexit then you must consider that there were 3 Brexiteers on that panel of 5, not 1, since you obviously put both Lidington and Ashworth in the Brexit camp.

Alright, a fair point. Then again, one year on from the referendum would it be too much to have a politician (rather than just a journalist) who actually backed Leave at the time?

foxinsoxuk

nrs3079 said:

Scrapheap_as_was said:

BBC news website - FFS

"Corbyn draws crowds at Glastonbury"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news

Yes another example of their balanced reporting. They're covering his trip to Tesco tomorrow while he does his weekly shop! I see Armed forces day is not even in their headlines section.

Fear not! the blessed Jezziah has raised awareness of AFD:

https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/878493139618586625

JonnyJimmy

Word for remainers who support Labour because they believe that JC must be one as well really because he's a good person; Corb-IN-ites (with a definite pause after the corb), or Jeremainers?

Essexit

JonnyJimmy said:

Word for remainers who support Labour because they believe that JC must be one as well really because he's a good person; Corb-IN-ites (with a definite pause after the corb), or Jeremainers?

Pillocks.

foxinsoxuk

JonnyJimmy said:

Word for remainers who support Labour because they believe that JC must be one as well really because he's a good person; Corb-IN-ites (with a definite pause after the corb), or Jeremainers?

While Jezza is probably a Leaver at heart, he is at least a Leaver who doesn't see Brexit as a slash and burn attack on workers rights and environmental protections. Indeed he wants to strengthen these beyond the EU position, and also not engage in a race to the bottom by beggaring our neighbours. He is also much more positive about immigration.

As a former Remainer, I would strongly support Jezza's Brexit policy over the vultures in the Tory party. It is a very different way of Brexit with Corbyn and Starmer in charge.

GIN1138

Scrapheap_as_was said:

BBC news website - FFS

"Corbyn draws crowds at Glastonbury"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news

LOL! Yeah, all those thousands of people at Glastonbury just to party with Jezza!

Hertsmere_Pubgoer

foxinsoxuk said:

nrs3079 said:

Scrapheap_as_was said:

BBC news website - FFS

"Corbyn draws crowds at Glastonbury"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news

Yes another example of their balanced reporting. They're covering his trip to Tesco tomorrow while he does his weekly shop! I see Armed forces day is not even in their headlines section.

Fear not! the blessed Jezziah has raised awareness of AFD:

https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/878493139618586625

Isn't that pic from November 2015?

stodge

Evening all

Not sure why anyone should carp the exit polls - they were no worse than the halfwits and nitwits who were making vacuous predictions on here three weeks ago.

I know some have had the cojones to come back and admit they were wrong - kudos to you. We all make mistakes and part of being human is accepting our own many and manifest limitations.

One or two have claimed they were right and the voters were wrong - interesting. I'll try that one on Mr Paddy Power when my horse loses at Hexham tomorrow.

One or two others have slunk into the darkness - fair enough. If you can't take the heat, go and live in Greenland.

Getting it wrong makes life interesting - if we always got it right, how boring would that be ?

rcs1000

GIN1138 said:

Scrapheap_as_was said:

BBC news website - FFS

"Corbyn draws crowds at Glastonbury"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news

LOL! Yeah, all those thousands of people at Glastonbury just to party with Jezza!

That was exactly what I thought

CarlottaVance

Edith Piaf:

https://twitter.com/MattSingh_/status/878654290331664384

FrancisUrquhart

GIN1138 said:

Scrapheap_as_was said:

BBC news website - FFS

"Corbyn draws crowds at Glastonbury"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news

LOL! Yeah, all those thousands of people at Glastonbury just to party with Jezza!

I am sure he had gone down well there, but anybody who has been to festivals knows the crowds for the main stages will only grow over the day as people try and get their place for the main acts and willing to stand and watch the crap on beforehand unwilling to move for hours on end.

rcs1000

The National on in FOUR MINUTES
Don't miss them.

JonnyJimmy

I don't believe I've ever in my life (39 years) seen such fanatical support for a politician in this country as we're seeing for Chairman Jeremy from much of the left at the moment. It's actually quite worrying when you consider that his right hand man has encouraged direct action to overthrow the government.

GeoffM

foxinsoxuk said:

JonnyJimmy said:

Word for remainers who support Labour because they believe that JC must be one as well really because he's a good person; Corb-IN-ites (with a definite pause after the corb), or Jeremainers?

While Jezza is probably a Leaver at heart, he is at least a Leaver who doesn't see Brexit as a slash and burn attack on workers rights and environmental protections. Indeed he wants to strengthen these beyond the EU position, and also not engage in a race to the bottom by beggaring our neighbours. He is also much more positive about immigration.

As a former Remainer, I would strongly support Jezza's Brexit policy over the vultures in the Tory party. It is a very different way of Brexit with Corbyn and Starmer in charge.

And that's the absolute beauty of Brexit.

Now, free from the restraints of the EU we can, as a country, fully implement any vision that we vote for. Corbyn's, mine, or something in between that's more sensible.

Corbyn should want as hard a Brexit as possible to allow him to do whatever he wants after the next election.

Have just started Episode 1 of Designated Survivor. It looks okay so far at 17 mins in. Anyone know if it gets better/worse?

FrancisUrquhart

rcs1000 said:

The National on in FOUR MINUTES
Don't miss them.

Are they as crap as radiohead? *

* Just joking

GIN1138

CarlottaVance said:

Edith Piaf:

https://twitter.com/MattSingh_/status/878654290331664384

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFtGfyruroU

FrancisUrquhart

JonnyJimmy said:

I don't believe I've ever in my life (39 years) seen such fanatical support for a politician in this country as we're seeing for Chairman Jeremy from much of the left at the moment. It's actually quite worrying when you consider that his right hand man has encouraged direct action to overthrow the government.

Tony Blair?

CarlottaVance

foxinsoxuk said:

JonnyJimmy said:

Word for remainers who support Labour because they believe that JC must be one as well really because he's a good person; Corb-IN-ites (with a definite pause after the corb), or Jeremainers?

a Leaver who doesn't see Brexit as a slash and burn attack on workers rights and environmental protections.

Who, in the government is?

GIN1138

FrancisUrquhart said:

JonnyJimmy said:

I don't believe I've ever in my life (39 years) seen such fanatical support for a politician in this country as we're seeing for Chairman Jeremy from much of the left at the moment. It's actually quite worrying when you consider that his right hand man has encouraged direct action to overthrow the government.

Tony Blair?

Tony Blair's popularity was a lot more all-encompassing than Jezza's but I suppose the difference is that those on the right could live with him because they thought he was essentially a one nation Tory who happened to be Lab leader. Where-as Jezza is a proper leftie revolutionary...

JonnyJimmy

Has anyone polled UK resident EU citizens to find out whether they'd rather have the ECJ, or their permanent residency settled immediately?

FrancisUrquhart

GIN1138 said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

JonnyJimmy said:

I don't believe I've ever in my life (39 years) seen such fanatical support for a politician in this country as we're seeing for Chairman Jeremy from much of the left at the moment. It's actually quite worrying when you consider that his right hand man has encouraged direct action to overthrow the government.

Tony Blair?

Tony Blair's popularity was a lot more all-encompassing than Jezza's but I suppose the difference is that those on the right could live with him because they thought he was essentially a one nation Tory who happened to be Lab leader. Where-as Jezza is a proper leftie revolutionary...

Absolutely. Although I had similar feeling of blair and Obama ie overhyped, they weren't dangerous. Same with macron or Trudeau.

valleyboy

FrancisUrquhart said:

rcs1000 said:

The National on in FOUR MINUTES
Don't miss them.

Are they as crap as radiohead? *

* Just joking

Their version of the old 60s classic Morning Dew is classic. Play it all the time.

Pulpstar

FrancisUrquhart said:

GIN1138 said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

JonnyJimmy said:

I don't believe I've ever in my life (39 years) seen such fanatical support for a politician in this country as we're seeing for Chairman Jeremy from much of the left at the moment. It's actually quite worrying when you consider that his right hand man has encouraged direct action to overthrow the government.

Tony Blair?

Tony Blair's popularity was a lot more all-encompassing than Jezza's but I suppose the difference is that those on the right could live with him because they thought he was essentially a one nation Tory who happened to be Lab leader. Where-as Jezza is a proper leftie revolutionary...

Absolutely. Although I had similar feeling of Blair and Obama ie overhyped, they weren't dangerous. Same with macron or Trudeau.

All those 4 have their faults (Particularly Blair !) but the political philosophy was essentially centrism. Jezz is a very hard and dangerous leftism.

MaxPB

Now onto a bottle of Sicilian red. Politics, what's that?

foxinsoxuk

Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:

foxinsoxuk said:

nrs3079 said:

Scrapheap_as_was said:

BBC news website - FFS

"Corbyn draws crowds at Glastonbury"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news

Yes another example of their balanced reporting. They're covering his trip to Tesco tomorrow while he does his weekly shop! I see Armed forces day is not even in their headlines section.

Fear not! the blessed Jezziah has raised awareness of AFD:

https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/878493139618586625

Isn't that pic from November 2015?

Sure, it is in Whitehall, and poppies are worn. Nonetheless his tweet on AFD is one of the highest retweets.

Those mocking JC at Glasto for his rapturous reception still don't get it. Jezza has struck the Zeitgeist, while Tezza will get fragged by her own troops at conference. It is only going one way.

surbiton

The sweetest was 2017. Since it was so far removed from received opinion.

rcs1000

MaxPB said:

Now onto a bottle of Sicilian red. Politics, what's that?

I can't take any of my wine with me to the US. So I'm currently drinking special occasion only wine* while watching The National.

* Ridge Montebello 2000

surbiton

MaxPB said:

Now onto a bottle of Sicilian red. Politics, what's that?

Are you morphing into SeanT ?

FrancisUrquhart

rcs1000 said:

MaxPB said:

Now onto a bottle of Sicilian red. Politics, what's that?

I can't take any of my wine with me to the US. So I'm currently drinking special occasion only wine* while watching The National.

* Ridge Montebello 2000

How come you can't ship it?

JonnyJimmy

FrancisUrquhart said:

JonnyJimmy said:

I don't believe I've ever in my life (39 years) seen such fanatical support for a politician in this country as we're seeing for Chairman Jeremy from much of the left at the moment. It's actually quite worrying when you consider that his right hand man has encouraged direct action to overthrow the government.

Tony Blair?

FrancisUrquhart said:

JonnyJimmy said:

I don't believe I've ever in my life (39 years) seen such fanatical support for a politician in this country as we're seeing for Chairman Jeremy from much of the left at the moment. It's actually quite worrying when you consider that his right hand man has encouraged direct action to overthrow the government.

Tony Blair?

He was more popular poll wise at his peak, but I don't remember any Tony Blair chanting. This Jeremania is something else..

Hertsmere_Pubgoer

GeoffM said:

foxinsoxuk said:

JonnyJimmy said:

Word for remainers who support Labour because they believe that JC must be one as well really because he's a good person; Corb-IN-ites (with a definite pause after the corb), or Jeremainers?

While Jezza is probably a Leaver at heart, he is at least a Leaver who doesn't see Brexit as a slash and burn attack on workers rights and environmental protections. Indeed he wants to strengthen these beyond the EU position, and also not engage in a race to the bottom by beggaring our neighbours. He is also much more positive about immigration.

As a former Remainer, I would strongly support Jezza's Brexit policy over the vultures in the Tory party. It is a very different way of Brexit with Corbyn and Starmer in charge.

And that's the absolute beauty of Brexit.

Now, free from the restraints of the EU we can, as a country, fully implement any vision that we vote for. Corbyn's, mine, or something in between that's more sensible.

Corbyn should want as hard a Brexit as possible to allow him to do whatever he wants after the next election.

Have just started Episode 1 of Designated Survivor. It looks okay so far at 17 mins in. Anyone know if it gets better/worse?

I quite enjoyed it
Hannah Wells is wonderful.

Sunil_Prasannan

MikeSmithson said:

tlg86 said:

MikeSmithson said:

RobD said:

glw said:

ThomasNashe said:

Having thought about it, the BBC probably realised that themselves. Hence its deletion.

What's the difference between Fox lauding Trump and the BBC lauding Corbyn? Not a lot.

One isn't a public broadcaster that is required to be neutral.

Not the Tory BBC-haters again. Saddos

Lol! The BBC have just had to delete a Tweet because it broke impartiality rules. Earlier this week the BBC had to apologise for allowing an Islamist to slander Maajid Nawaz and Douglas Murray.

The BBC doesn't do itself any favours.

Another saddo.

Mike admits to being a saddo

foxinsoxuk

CarlottaVance said:

foxinsoxuk said:

JonnyJimmy said:

Word for remainers who support Labour because they believe that JC must be one as well really because he's a good person; Corb-IN-ites (with a definite pause after the corb), or Jeremainers?

a Leaver who doesn't see Brexit as a slash and burn attack on workers rights and environmental protections.

Who, in the government is?

May, Boris and Davis have allthreatened to undercut the EU, and JRM has advocated Indian style Health and Safety.

Chris

foxinsoxuk said:

Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:

foxinsoxuk said:

nrs3079 said:

Scrapheap_as_was said:

BBC news website - FFS

"Corbyn draws crowds at Glastonbury"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news

Yes another example of their balanced reporting. They're covering his trip to Tesco tomorrow while he does his weekly shop! I see Armed forces day is not even in their headlines section.

Fear not! the blessed Jezziah has raised awareness of AFD:

https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/878493139618586625

Isn't that pic from November 2015?

Sure, it is in Whitehall, and poppies are worn. Nonetheless his tweet on AFD is one of the highest retweets.

Those mocking JC at Glasto for his rapturous reception still don't get it.

He is not the first person with those initials to have been mocked by people who didn't know what they were doing.

Big_G_NorthWales

GIN1138 said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

JonnyJimmy said:

I don't believe I've ever in my life (39 years) seen such fanatical support for a politician in this country as we're seeing for Chairman Jeremy from much of the left at the moment. It's actually quite worrying when you consider that his right hand man has encouraged direct action to overthrow the government.

Tony Blair?

Tony Blair's popularity was a lot more all-encompassing than Jezza's but I suppose the difference is that those on the right could live with him because they thought he was essentially a one nation Tory who happened to be Lab leader. Where-as Jezza is a proper leftie revolutionary...

I voted for Tony twice, never ever will I vote for Corbyn

CarlottaVance

foxinsoxuk said:

CarlottaVance said:

foxinsoxuk said:

JonnyJimmy said:

Word for remainers who support Labour because they believe that JC must be one as well really because he's a good person; Corb-IN-ites (with a definite pause after the corb), or Jeremainers?

a Leaver who doesn't see Brexit as a slash and burn attack on workers rights and environmental protections.

Who, in the government is?

May, Boris and Davis have allthreatened to undercut the EU,

On workers rights?

Citation required.

rcs1000

Just so everyone knows, I've freed the Radiohead one.

GeoffM

Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:

GeoffM said:

foxinsoxuk said:

JonnyJimmy said:

Word for remainers who support Labour because they believe that JC must be one as well really because he's a good person; Corb-IN-ites (with a definite pause after the corb), or Jeremainers?

While Jezza is probably a Leaver at heart, he is at least a Leaver who doesn't see Brexit as a slash and burn attack on workers rights and environmental protections. Indeed he wants to strengthen these beyond the EU position, and also not engage in a race to the bottom by beggaring our neighbours. He is also much more positive about immigration.

As a former Remainer, I would strongly support Jezza's Brexit policy over the vultures in the Tory party. It is a very different way of Brexit with Corbyn and Starmer in charge.

And that's the absolute beauty of Brexit.

Now, free from the restraints of the EU we can, as a country, fully implement any vision that we vote for. Corbyn's, mine, or something in between that's more sensible.

Corbyn should want as hard a Brexit as possible to allow him to do whatever he wants after the next election.

Have just started Episode 1 of Designated Survivor. It looks okay so far at 17 mins in. Anyone know if it gets better/worse?

I quite enjoyed it
Hannah Wells is wonderful.

Thanks Mr Pubgoer. I've just got to the end of Ep1 and I'll definitely be carrying on.

surbiton

Big_G_NorthWales said:

GIN1138 said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

JonnyJimmy said:

I don't believe I've ever in my life (39 years) seen such fanatical support for a politician in this country as we're seeing for Chairman Jeremy from much of the left at the moment. It's actually quite worrying when you consider that his right hand man has encouraged direct action to overthrow the government.

Tony Blair?

Tony Blair's popularity was a lot more all-encompassing than Jezza's but I suppose the difference is that those on the right could live with him because they thought he was essentially a one nation Tory who happened to be Lab leader. Where-as Jezza is a proper leftie revolutionary...

I voted for Tony twice, never ever will I vote for Corbyn

That's OK. I don't think he expects your vote.