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  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,587
    As for Square Root it's simply a fact that the most widely-read local non-party paper can't find a local Tory willing to write an article once a month - they have UKIP and Lab and Lib and sometimes Green, but the Tories can't be arsed.

    You don't have to believe me, though - not complaining at all. I was just illustrating Ashcroft's point that the local Tory parties are dying out. They can still put on a show with central direct mail and paid-for calls, but anything that needs local effort is hard.
  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071

    I've tried replying "Actually I do think pensions should be an entitlement - do you not agree?" but never had a reply that addresses it.

    It's likely that's because you've got a fixed mindset in favour of entitlement, therefore people with an opposite view won't waste the time and effort debating the point with you. What are they going to gain out of it? What are the odds of you changing your mind?

  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 33,090
    edited August 2013
    At this moment I'm using Google Chrome for the first time. It's just become available for iPad (unless I've missed something).

    My main computer is almost ten years old, uses PowerPC chips rather than Intel, and so won't run it.

    Just mentioning it in case it's useful for others.
  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,320
    edited August 2013
    NickP, after very quickly and easily debunking your last claims about Soubry, her newsletter and the local rag. Will take this latest attempt to undermine YOUR opponents with a pinch of salt! Having seen a sample of the abuse that Anna Soubry gets on the Beestonia Blog thanks to another PBeer linking to it, this kind of snide nonsense undermines your claim of delivering 'positive politics from Nick Palmer! If the Labour party was brimming with great alternative policies and a credible Leader right now, you wouldn't be left digging around in this kind of crap.

    As for Square Root it's simply a fact that the most widely-read local non-party paper can't find a local Tory willing to write an article once a month - they have UKIP and Lab and Lib and sometimes Green, but the Tories can't be arsed.

    You don't have to believe me, though - not complaining at all. I was just illustrating Ashcroft's point that the local Tory parties are dying out. They can still put on a show with central direct mail and paid-for calls, but anything that needs local effort is hard.

  • RobD said:

    Mick_Pork said:



    "Deserving" is very much in the eye of the beholder but you would have to be pretty far gone not to appreciate that most charities aims and giving selflessly to them is something to be applauded. Cammie tried to make it a centrepoint of his "Big Society" after all. It is not the fault of charities that his PR around it was so inept.

    Some charities are more deserving than other... for example.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/lord-lawsons-climatechange-think-tank-risks-being-dismantled-after-complaint-it-persistently-misled-public-8659314.html

    Surely you couldn't disagree with that ;-)
    LOL. Given that the Grantham Institute's predictions have consistently turned out to be garbage, they are hardly in a position to moan about anyone who contradicts their false claims. Mind you, hardly surprising that the Independent should be fooled by this sort of grandstanding since they will believe anything that backs up their own misconceptions.
  • john_zimsjohn_zims Posts: 3,399
    @Tim

    'Re the Burnham story.
    Miliband is going to wait until September to go on a full scale attack against Cameron's character and his priorities, obviously.'

    Obviously,Burnham is desperately trying to cling onto his job,has Ed got the balls to dump him?

    I don't think Ed should wait that long,voters will have completely forgotten who the non entity is. .
  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,320
    edited August 2013
    Alas, so many of your misogynistic personalised attacks towards me or others have been so quickly moderated on this site that it saves you and your supporters the need to apologise for your behaviour. You just cannot help yourself, even if it means undermining Carola's attempt to deflect attention away from this kind of crap from the usual suspects on this site. A while ago, I realised that the more I ignored you, the more obsessively desperate you became to try and troll a reaction out of me whether I was around or not on PB.com. Its not healthy behaviour on your part, but its your problem not mine, I just tend to skim past your posts now, or ignore the often moderated or disappeared posts that vanilla flags up.

    This is a classic post of that genre. Likewise Carola's attempt to step in again when someone challenged the flow of IOS on his very similar behaviour, and she accused me of passive/aggressive behaviour. Your attempt to focus on a poster's intelligence is but a mere smoke screen. The last couple of days have been a brilliant example of partisan Labour politics, and that now infamous motto, do as I say, not as I do. Go take some time out of PB, refresh your batteries and spend time with your family. Don't keep trying to re-ignite old flame wars, learn that treating others as you would like to be treated can still end up delivering excellent political debates that inform rather than close down the arguments that still need to be aired. I am passionate about politics and good old debate, too much so that I don't need to obsessively target my opponents in the way you do to shut the debates that feed that really interesting exchanges.


    You arguing that the Tories membership is OK?

    I'll believe that when you apologise for your misogynistic personalised attacks on Carola (just because she's brighter than you and doesn't whine doesn't means she's not a woman)



  • Plato said:

    Greg Dyke is Mr FA? I missed that one.

    Richard Conway @richard_conway
    Greg Dyke says fans and players should be spared summer heat of Qatar 2022. Fifa expected to make switch to winter in October.

    Of course, if Qatar had said in the first place that they were going to hold it in winter, they would not have been awarded the WC at all.
    The World Cup 2022 farce to Qatar showed what soccer authorities thought about Oz. Would have been good, but got 1 vote from memory and Qatar got the lot on a promise of building stadiums and then repositioning them in poor countries. Break the contract then vote again.

  • fitalass said:

    Alas, so many of your misogynistic personalised attacks towards me or others have been so quickly moderated on this site that it saves you and your supporters the need to apologise for your behaviour. You just cannot help yourself, even if it means undermining Carola's attempt to deflect attention away from this kind of crap from the usual suspects on this site. A while ago, I realised that the more I ignored you, the more obsessively desperate you became to try and troll a reaction out of me whether I was around or not on PB.com. Its not healthy behaviour on your part, but its your problem not mine, I just tend to skim past your posts now, or ignore the often moderated or disappeared posts that vanilla flags up.

    This is a classic post of that genre. Likewise Carola's attempt to step in again when someone challenged the flow of IOS on his very similar behaviour, and she accused me of passive/aggressive behaviour. Your attempt to focus on a poster's intelligence is but a mere smoke screen. The last couple of days have been a brilliant example of partisan Labour politics, and that now infamous motto, do as I say, not as I do. Go take some time out of PB, refresh your batteries and spend time with your family. Don't keep trying to re-ignite old flame wars, learn that treating others as you would like to be treated can still end up delivering excellent political debates that inform rather than close down the arguments that still need to be aired. I am passionate about politics and good old debate, too much so that I don't need to obsessively target my opponents in the way you do to shut the debates that feed that really interesting exchanges.



    You arguing that the Tories membership is OK?

    I'll believe that when you apologise for your misogynistic personalised attacks on Carola (just because she's brighter than you and doesn't whine doesn't means she's not a woman)




    I do not always agree with you fitalass but you argue your case cogently and are polite at all times, so you can expect similar.

  • felixfelix Posts: 15,180

    fitalass said:

    Alas, so many of your misogynistic personalised attacks towards me or others have been so quickly moderated on this site that it saves you and your supporters the need to apologise for your behaviour. You just cannot help yourself, even if it means undermining Carola's attempt to deflect attention away from this kind of crap from the usual suspects on this site. A while ago, I realised that the more I ignored you, the more obsessively desperate you became to try and troll a reaction out of me whether I was around or not on PB.com. Its not healthy behaviour on your part, but its your problem not mine, I just tend to skim past your posts now, or ignore the often moderated or disappeared posts that vanilla flags up.

    This is a classic post of that genre. Likewise Carola's attempt to step in again when someone challenged the flow of IOS on his very similar behaviour, and she accused me of passive/aggressive behaviour. Your attempt to focus on a poster's intelligence is but a mere smoke screen. The last couple of days have been a brilliant example of partisan Labour politics, and that now infamous motto, do as I say, not as I do. Go take some time out of PB, refresh your batteries and spend time with your family. Don't keep trying to re-ignite old flame wars, learn that treating others as you would like to be treated can still end up delivering excellent political debates that inform rather than close down the arguments that still need to be aired. I am passionate about politics and good old debate, too much so that I don't need to obsessively target my opponents in the way you do to shut the debates that feed that really interesting exchanges.



    You arguing that the Tories membership is OK?

    I'll believe that when you apologise for your misogynistic personalised attacks on Carola (just because she's brighter than you and doesn't whine doesn't means she's not a woman)


    I do not always agree with you fitalass but you argue your case cogently and are polite at all times, so you can expect similar.



    Agreed!
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