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We are just two weeks and two days from the General Election and next week, with the Spring bank holiday, sees large numbers, particularly parents of school age children, going away.
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For ALL the politicians. Labour in particular has had a ridiculously easy ride so far, I expect when the whistle blows to restart the campaign that'll end sharpish.
Roger Moore has popped his clogs...cancer.
Electorally it will of course have an effect. A dramatic one. Obviously some hold or have held positions that the majority will not be able to stomach. It is their right to hold those views, and our right to vote against them should we see fit.
There's a strange bug that creates multiple Vanilla articles.
Logic being that the polls released recently showing a Labour surge showed it coming from non-voters. Also the Tory wobble was coming to an end as the u-turn had happened. If as was predicted by many here before the attack Labour closing the gap was a polling error ... or as has normally happened there was a pro-Labour polling error again anyway ... then there will be a change between the polls last weekend and the final results. Even if not a vote is different due to last night.
But last night's atrocity will be a peg on which to blame any errors, to say it caused a swing. It will also be a peg for the left to blame any eventual defeat on (like many blame Britain winning the Falklands war still for the Tories winning 83).
The campaign will resume before too long, but reserve and contemplation is called for in the immediate aftermath. Many nations would go much further and enter into a formal period of national mourning at a time such as this.
https://twitter.com/Hasselschmuck/status/866982319055409152
Interesting observation from one of the TNS polling team
https://twitter.com/joelwilliams74/status/866984051898535936
https://twitter.com/joelwilliams74/status/866984855082553344
After the terror, the platitudes. And the hashtags. And the candlelit vigils. And they always have the same message: ‘Be unified. Feel love. Don’t give in to hate.’ The banalities roll off the national tongue. Vapidity abounds. A shallow fetishisation of ‘togetherness’ takes the place of any articulation of what we should be together for – and against...
It is becoming clear that the top-down promotion of a hollow ‘togetherness’ in response to terrorism is about cultivating passivity. It is about suppressing strong public feeling. It’s about reducing us to a line of mourners whose only job is to weep for our fellow citizens, not ask why they died, or rage against their dying...
They want us passive, empathetic, upset, not angry, active, questioning. They prefer us as a lonely crowd of dutiful, disconnected mourners rather than a real collective of citizens demanding to know why our fellow citizens died and how we might prevent others from dying. We should stop playing the role they’ve allotted us...
If the massacre of children and their parents on a fun night out doesn’t make you feel rage, nothing will. The terrorist has defeated you. You are dead already.
The Heckler can reveal the PM – noticeably short of cool celebrity fans – left the James Bond star unstirred when she first had aides approach him.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/james-bond-legend-roger-moore-10478459
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/james-bond-legend-roger-moore-10478459
For this scene alone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE1evIbc3mw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaEU_A405zA&t=36s
That seems like the maximum...
- Not contesting even close to every seat: on a par with Greens.
- Truly dismal local election results, which give credence to the polls.
- Zero MPs and little prospect of winning any MPs.
To be treated like a big party, I'd suggest that you need either significant national support, which at the very least means an average of 5% across the whole country, given that that's deposit-losing level, but more probably something like 10%; or the likelihood of returning a parliamentary party which would have a significant presence in the House i.e. at least 10, perhaps 20.
We could argue the detail of both current criteria and relevance of historic record but there has to be a cut-off somewhere and to my mind, UKIP now fall below that level. Why, for example, is UKIP there but the Greens not?
I'm surprised he didn't go for Dalton...
I've always thought Timothy Dalton was very unlucky.
One or two maximum. Then back to normal.
"No, Mr Bond, I expect you to die....."
I laughed non stop for the rest of the movie.
Moore was rubbish as Bond, and the franchise became a joke.
However, whichever actor is playing Bond, I still don't have much of a clue what the plot is all about.
Moore as The Saint, however, was class.
I can't remember which one, but one of the 74 elections wasn't there major attacks of terrorism on polling day?
Brought the Mediterranean glamourous lifestyle to the Britain of the 1970s as we were enjoying our garlic-free dinners of a weekend...
Noone else has spotted anything in the manifesto ...?
I think this article sets out some important points that papers will be too afraid to publish.
http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/after-manchester-its-time-for-anger/19849#.WSQ7LIXTWEd
Of course it was only a few days after the Vote of No Confidence.
After dementia & the massacre of the innocents, we need the national mood to lighten.
Step forward, Noble Laureate Professor Sir Paul Nutall.
The reason that people say that is because they know that if people talked politics now then folk would reach conclusions that the political class don't want us to reach. It why had these 22 been murdered by a gunman in the US they'd be talking politics about gun-control but when a muslim blows up 22 young people we aren't supposed to talk about it.
Our political class have failed us. It's not just politicians like Corbyn and Abbott who have the blood of innocents on his hands; it's the entire lot of you. You were warned this would happen, you were told. Yet you stood by and did nothing. Thanks to your appeasement of Islam we are where we are and 22 young girls and boys are dead. Fuck all you politicians. Fuck you all.
Cyan has being doing some desperate cheerleading for Corbyn. Cyan says the Arndale bomb killed nobody. It killed two people. It was a 3000lb truck bomb - it could have killed dozens.
Cyan says the only people who made a killing were developers. Nasty. In fact the Labour hegemony in Manchester had regularly refused private finance - hence resulting in developments like the Arndale which was known locally as 'the biggest lavatory wall in europe'. The scale of the wider Manchester redevelopment (driven by a desire to be a world city) brought in private finance.
Cyan says let Corbyn speak for himself. Well he has for over 30 years. Now he seeks to rewrite history - both his own and the history of the real facts.
https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/05/jeremy-corbyn-should-not-be-allowed-to-rewrite-the-history-of-his-support-for-the-ira/
'Uncle Joe' Corbyn had a choice if he was genuinely concerned for peace in NI - a choice between the SDLP and the IRA. He chose the IRA and thus stabbed a true democrat and peacemaker, Gerry Fitt, in the back... repeatedly.
Craig, Dalton and Connery are the only ones to have got it right, when given a decent script.
On Corbyn, he will be horrified and sickened to his core by what happened. It will revolt him. But there is no getting away from those he has chosen to associate with in the past. Forget the IRA. Think Stop the War. Remember what they have said after previous atrocities, remember who they have protested against and who they haven't. Remember what they have said about the deaths of British soldiers and civilians, and who they have blamed. Corbyn helped start Stop the War. He was its chair for over a decade. That cannot be brushed under the carpet. It has to be highlighted. Judge a man by the company he keeps. Always.
Apologies if the above upsets anyone; if it seems too raw a time to be bringing it up; if you judge it inappropriate. But I feel it has to be said. I will not argue the point. I'll say no more.
Marxism was an utter failure, Mr O'Neill seems to need a new target for his anger and vitriol.
"On Corbyn, he will be horrified and sickened to his core by what happened. It will revolt him. "
You seem very sure of that, Mr. Observer. Terrorists killing and maiming the young and innocent didn't put him off them in the past. If all the PIRA atrocities didn't weaken his resolve I am not sure how you can say that last night's attack will revolt him and that he will be horrified and sickened to his core.
Every series jumps the shark at some point. Things were going South by the time Moore joined in. The hidden base in a fake volcano in 'You only Live Twice' was the start.
Sad to see Sir Roger go, but he had a good innings. Hope it was peaceful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWr_1uLjqic