'It's still a good a idea to start to destabilise Labour on it, you don't know when the "Ratner" tipping point will come, and Labour destroy their own brand image on the NHS.'
It's funny watching PB's finest lefties explode with hatred when NHS patients get asked for their opinions.
Most improper of Lord Howell to say something which might be construed as suggesting that the benefits of fracking should be disproportionately concentrated in his son-in-law's constituency.
The "who's best for the NHS" will take a while to turn around.
It's still a good a idea to start to destabilise Labour on it, you don't know when the "Ratner" tipping point will come, and Labour destroy their own brand image on the NHS.
Anyway, if the Tories don't go on the attack, you can bet Labour will try and blame them for Labour's own mistakes.
You can't turn it around for these reasons: 1. A lot of people fundamentally mistrust the Tories on the NHS because a lot of Tories are on record as wanting to get rid of it. 2. Even those that don't want to get rid of it, don't see a problem with privatising it. 3. Most of the public don't like points 1 & 2. 4. You can only dissuade them of that by making it better at the point of delivery (whilst still free). Even if the changes you are doing now were a good thing (and I don't think they are), the disruption caused by change will make the NHS worse (arguably in the short term if you believe in the changes). 5. The disruption means that that the NHS is a toxic issue for the Tories still and will be at the time of the next election.
But by all means give it a go. As a Labour supporter I'd much rather the Tories were talking about the NHS than something that is harmful to Labour .
For most sane people, the NHS is neither a religion, nor the shambles that posters on here want it to be. Danny Boyle's gala was a little over the top, but so were many of the reactions against it. The trouble with the NHS, is our politicians get involved with it far to much, sanctifying it, or vilifying it according to their political agenda. Normal people just want whatever system that is in place to work , and be accessible, timely, and not too traumatic. On the whole, the NHS manages that, despite of, not because of, our political masters. On the whole, I don't trust any of our parties to "save" the NHS. It actually just wants saving from politicians, both internal, and Westminster based.
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'It's still a good a idea to start to destabilise Labour on it, you don't know when the "Ratner" tipping point will come, and Labour destroy their own brand image on the NHS.'
It's funny watching PB's finest lefties explode with hatred when NHS patients get asked for their opinions.
Cheeky ;-)
My summary of Lord Howell words on #fracking (he's Osborne's father in law too): Frack the North East-no one cares but leave the South alone
RichardDodd,and this guy reports the news.
1. A lot of people fundamentally mistrust the Tories on the NHS because a lot of Tories are on record as wanting to get rid of it.
2. Even those that don't want to get rid of it, don't see a problem with privatising it.
3. Most of the public don't like points 1 & 2.
4. You can only dissuade them of that by making it better at the point of delivery (whilst still free). Even if the changes you are doing now were a good thing (and I don't think they are), the disruption caused by change will make the NHS worse (arguably in the short term if you believe in the changes).
5. The disruption means that that the NHS is a toxic issue for the Tories still and will be at the time of the next election.
But by all means give it a go. As a Labour supporter I'd much rather the Tories were talking about the NHS than something that is harmful to Labour .
Not sure Lord Howell read the "How-Not-To-Sound-Out-Of-Touch" Manual before he suggested #fracking the "desolate" North East
http://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/article-1356395993885/
'The rugged, desolate moors in Marsden and North Yorkshire are an intrinsic part of this landscape'
The trouble with the NHS, is our politicians get involved with it far to much, sanctifying it, or vilifying it according to their political agenda.
Normal people just want whatever system that is in place to work , and be accessible, timely, and not too traumatic. On the whole, the NHS manages that, despite of, not because of, our political masters.
On the whole, I don't trust any of our parties to "save" the NHS. It actually just wants saving from politicians, both internal, and Westminster based.
Fracking OK for 'desolate' North East, says Tory peer
Fracking should be carried out in the North East of England, where there are large, "desolate" areas, a former energy secretary has said.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23505723#