I really really don't know what to say...it is was offensive, then an easy target, then quite funny, now its just sad.
He's inviting it all on himself.
Oh absolutely, but it is turning into a bit like Timmykins on here who ended 16+ hrs a day, then last seen spamming 1000s of tweets. It was like get a life man, you aren't changing anybodies mind and just repeating the same stuff over and over again.
If any enterprising journalists are reading this could you please ask Ken for his views about the Kennedy assassination, moon landings, and 9/11, as I'm very curious to find out what he thinks about those events.
If any enterprising journalists are reading this could you please ask Ken for his views about the Kennedy assassination, moon landings, and 9/11, as I'm very curious to find out what he thinks about those events.
I think they're just enjoying seeing if they can get Ken to go over 60 hph.
Reports tonight Mark Reckless in bid to rejoin the conservative party
Would anybody really want Reckless in the Tories? He has always been hard to manage. I can only think that allowing Reckless and Carswell back might offer a unifying of right of centre opinion at the ballot box.
If any enterprising journalists are reading this could you please ask Ken for his views about the Kennedy assassination, moon landings, and 9/11, as I'm very curious to find out what he thinks about those events.
I bet he has read some books on those ;-)
I believe the go to academic on 9/11 is called Joy Karega...
Reports tonight Mark Reckless in bid to rejoin the conservative party
Maybe he'll be offered a ministerial post.
In order to do that in the Sennedd, he'd have to defect to Labour, who govern with the support of the lone Liberal Democrat.
Admittedly he would considerably raise the average ability and integrity of the Sennedd Labour Party while slightly reducing the average waistline, but I somehow don't see Carwyn Jones welcoming him in.
Reports tonight Mark Reckless in bid to rejoin the conservative party
Would anybody really want Reckless in the Tories? He has always been hard to manage. I can only think that allowing Reckless and Carswell back might offer a unifying of right of centre opinion at the ballot box.
The report says that the conservatives are not agreeing to his request at present
I really really don't know what to say...it is was offensive, then an easy target, then quite funny, now its just sad.
He's inviting it all on himself.
Oh absolutely, but it is turning into a bit like Timmykins on here who ended 16+ hrs a day, then last seen spamming 1000s of tweets. It was like get a life man, you aren't changing anybodies mind and just repeating the same stuff over and over again.
Thank goodness your 19,820 posts are of infinite variety and changing minds everywhere.
Interesting to hear about Reckless. Apparently he's been demanding Single Market access for Wales, so that throws into doubt his commitment to Kipperism. I suspect that like Carswell and most Tory/UKIP defectors, it was all just a glorified flounce over Dave's leadership style. If I were the Tories I'd avoid future entanglements with this obvious flake.
I'd be very surprised if the Tories actually get 31% in the projected national share. 35%+ seems more likely IMO, particularly with UKIP failing to put up candidates in so many places where they did relatively well last time.
Reckless timed his defection to UKIP to cause maximum damage to the Tory party conference.
If he wants back in, then he must do the Walk of Shame into conference, naked from Wales through to the streets of Manchester.
Then conference can vote on whether he has shown enough penitence. I'm hoping not.
Do I get the feeling that he isn't terribly popular in his former party?
There is a delicious irony: just when we thought the Floggers and Hangers in the Tory Party had all defected to UKIP, it takes Mark Reckless to rediscover them....
Reckless timed his defection to UKIP to cause maximum damage to the Tory party conference.
If he wants back in, then he must do the Walk of Shame into conference, naked from Wales through to the streets of Manchester.
Then conference can vote on whether he has shown enough penitence. I'm hoping not.
Do I get the feeling that he isn't terribly popular in his former party?
There's a lot of Leavers MPs and members in the Tory Party who would like to castrate Mark Reckless with a rusty saw.
It was the timing of his defection that caused so much anger.
Contrast the restraint and sadness shown at Douglas Carswell defecting to UKIP
Churchill's various rattings and re-rattings were discretely conducted behind the oak doors of clubland, but I presume Mr Reckless holds him in high regard.
Interesting to hear about Reckless. Apparently he's been demanding Single Market access for Wales, so that throws into doubt his commitment to Kipperism. I suspect that like Carswell and most Tory/UKIP defectors, it was all just a glorified flounce over Dave's leadership style. If I were the Tories I'd avoid future entanglements with this obvious flake.
Carswell certainly wasn't a flounce given that he had been a strong critic of Tory party policy on the EU for many years. I must admit that until he jumped ship I had never even heard of Reckless and, unlike Carswell and Hannan, he certainly wasn't well known in the Eurosceptic community.
I really really don't know what to say...it is was offensive, then an easy target, then quite funny, now its just sad.
He's inviting it all on himself.
Oh absolutely, but it is turning into a bit like Timmykins on here who ended 16+ hrs a day, then last seen spamming 1000s of tweets. It was like get a life man, you aren't changing anybodies mind and just repeating the same stuff over and over again.
Thank goodness your 19,820 posts are of infinite variety and changing minds everywhere.
Bring back Tim AND James Kelly. Justice for the PB Two - golden greats of this forum from days when PB Lefties were PB Lefties, PB Tories were PB Tories and PB Nats were PB Nats - none of this fancy Brexit shite to muddy the lines. Bring them back.
I really really don't know what to say...it is was offensive, then an easy target, then quite funny, now its just sad.
He's inviting it all on himself.
Oh absolutely, but it is turning into a bit like Timmykins on here who ended 16+ hrs a day, then last seen spamming 1000s of tweets. It was like get a life man, you aren't changing anybodies mind and just repeating the same stuff over and over again.
Thank goodness your 19,820 posts are of infinite variety and changing minds everywhere.
Bring back Tim AND James Kelly. Justice for the PB Two - golden greats of this forum from days when PB Lefties were PB Lefties, PB Tories were PB Tories and PB Nats were PB Nats - none of this fancy Brexit shite to muddy the lines. Bring them back.
Reckless timed his defection to UKIP to cause maximum damage to the Tory party conference.
If he wants back in, then he must do the Walk of Shame into conference, naked from Wales through to the streets of Manchester.
Then conference can vote on whether he has shown enough penitence. I'm hoping not.
Do I get the feeling that he isn't terribly popular in his former party?
There's a lot of Leavers MPs and members in the Tory Party who would like to castrate Mark Reckless with a rusty saw.
It was the timing of his defection that caused so much anger.
Contrast the restraint and sadness shown at Douglas Carswell defecting to UKIP
Churchill's various rattings and re-rattings were discretely conducted behind the oak doors of clubland, but I presume Mr Reckless holds him in high regard.
Not a very good equivalent:
1) Churchill spent several years in coalition with the Conservatives under Lloyd George, in senior cabinet posts;
2) When re-ratting to the Conservatives, he had effectively left the Liberals in 1917 and after 1922 spent a couple of years as an independent before being brought in at Cabinet level by Baldwin on the advice of Neville Chamberlain (who had refused the post of Chancellor) over the angry protests of the ordinary party;
3) He was a talented figure with a proven track record in government (such figures were quite scarce in the Tory party of the 1920s - witness that the Home Secretary of the time, Joynson-Hicks, had only been in cabinet a year and Baldwin himself had been a backbencher less than six years before) and was well-connected politically - a definite catch.
I really really don't know what to say...it is was offensive, then an easy target, then quite funny, now its just sad.
He's inviting it all on himself.
Oh absolutely, but it is turning into a bit like Timmykins on here who ended 16+ hrs a day, then last seen spamming 1000s of tweets. It was like get a life man, you aren't changing anybodies mind and just repeating the same stuff over and over again.
Thank goodness your 19,820 posts are of infinite variety and changing minds everywhere.
Bring back Tim AND James Kelly. Justice for the PB Two - golden greats of this forum from days when PB Lefties were PB Lefties, PB Tories were PB Tories and PB Nats were PB Nats - none of this fancy Brexit shite to muddy the lines. Bring them back.
Reckless timed his defection to UKIP to cause maximum damage to the Tory party conference.
If he wants back in, then he must do the Walk of Shame into conference, naked from Wales through to the streets of Manchester.
Then conference can vote on whether he has shown enough penitence. I'm hoping not.
Do I get the feeling that he isn't terribly popular in his former party?
There's a lot of Leavers MPs and members in the Tory Party who would like to castrate Mark Reckless with a rusty saw.
It was the timing of his defection that caused so much anger.
Contrast the restraint and sadness shown at Douglas Carswell defecting to UKIP
I'll take that as a 'yes'.
But really, Mr Eagles, everyone knows that a rusty saw is the wrong implement. Two bricks. That's the way to go. Small ones so you have to have a couple of tries.
I really really don't know what to say...it is was offensive, then an easy target, then quite funny, now its just sad.
He's inviting it all on himself.
Oh absolutely, but it is turning into a bit like Timmykins on here who ended 16+ hrs a day, then last seen spamming 1000s of tweets. It was like get a life man, you aren't changing anybodies mind and just repeating the same stuff over and over again.
Thank goodness your 19,820 posts are of infinite variety and changing minds everywhere.
Bring back Tim AND James Kelly. Justice for the PB Two - golden greats of this forum from days when PB Lefties were PB Lefties, PB Tories were PB Tories and PB Nats were PB Nats - none of this fancy Brexit shite to muddy the lines. Bring them back.
And back when Steve McClaren was Forest manag......noooooooooooooooo!
OT. Sad news in the Eurosceptic movement today with news of the death of Helen Szamuely, one of the brightest and best informed of all in the movement.
Her fight against the EU began long before UKIP was even thought of and she was one of the irreplaceable experts whose in depth knowledge of the workings of the EU informed the whole movement. I believe she was of Hungarian descent and alongside her Euroscepticism she was a staunch opponent of Russian expansionism both in its Soviet and more recently its Putinesque forms.
I am glad she lived long enough to see the Brexit vote and Article 50 enacted but greatly saddened that her voice of intelligence and moderation will no longer be heard.
I kind of hope Keiran asks Professor Ralling what he thinks of noted deputy editors referring to other psephologists as the Primus Inter Pares of their field rather than him.
Sturgeon's marketing of Scotland to California students 'The first is that if any of you are uncertain what to do after you leave Stanford, you are very welcome to come to Scotland! We offer a warm welcome and a fantastic quality of life. And our weather is much more interesting than the boring sunshine you get here in California…' https://www.snp.org/nicola_sturgeon_address_at_stanford_university_scotland_s_place_in_the_world
Sturgeon's marketing of Scotland to California students 'The first is that if any of you are uncertain what to do after you leave Stanford, you are very welcome to come to Scotland! We offer a warm welcome and a fantastic quality of life. And our weather is much more interesting than the boring sunshine you get here in California…' https://www.snp.org/nicola_sturgeon_address_at_stanford_university_scotland_s_place_in_the_world
The Anglosphere will be blessed indeed to gain a head of government of her calibre.
Sturgeon's marketing of Scotland to California students 'The first is that if any of you are uncertain what to do after you leave Stanford, you are very welcome to come to Scotland! We offer a warm welcome and a fantastic quality of life. And our weather is much more interesting than the boring sunshine you get here in California…' https://www.snp.org/nicola_sturgeon_address_at_stanford_university_scotland_s_place_in_the_world
Brilliant. Saw the end of the session yesterday - excellent as usual from Nicola.
Reckless timed his defection to UKIP to cause maximum damage to the Tory party conference.
If he wants back in, then he must do the Walk of Shame into conference, naked from Wales through to the streets of Manchester.
Then conference can vote on whether he has shown enough penitence. I'm hoping not.
Do I get the feeling that he isn't terribly popular in his former party?
There's a lot of Leavers MPs and members in the Tory Party who would like to castrate Mark Reckless with a rusty saw.
It was the timing of his defection that caused so much anger.
Contrast the restraint and sadness shown at Douglas Carswell defecting to UKIP
Churchill's various rattings and re-rattings were discretely conducted behind the oak doors of clubland, but I presume Mr Reckless holds him in high regard.
Not a very good equivalent:
1) Churchill spent several years in coalition with the Conservatives under Lloyd George, in senior cabinet posts;
2) When re-ratting to the Conservatives, he had effectively left the Liberals in 1917 and after 1922 spent a couple of years as an independent before being brought in at Cabinet level by Baldwin on the advice of Neville Chamberlain (who had refused the post of Chancellor) over the angry protests of the ordinary party;
3) He was a talented figure with a proven track record in government (such figures were quite scarce in the Tory party of the 1920s - witness that the Home Secretary of the time, Joynson-Hicks, had only been in cabinet a year and Baldwin himself had been a backbencher less than six years before) and was well-connected politically - a definite catch.
Churchill was a Liberal candidate in Leicester for the 1923 election!
I really really don't know what to say...it is was offensive, then an easy target, then quite funny, now its just sad.
He's inviting it all on himself.
Oh absolutely, but it is turning into a bit like Timmykins on here who ended 16+ hrs a day, then last seen spamming 1000s of tweets. It was like get a life man, you aren't changing anybodies mind and just repeating the same stuff over and over again.
Thank goodness your 19,820 posts are of infinite variety and changing minds everywhere.
Bring back Tim AND James Kelly. Justice for the PB Two - golden greats of this forum from days when PB Lefties were PB Lefties, PB Tories were PB Tories and PB Nats were PB Nats - none of this fancy Brexit shite to muddy the lines. Bring them back.
I often agree with you but you have a real blind spot when it comes to Nicola. She is class above the rest of the comics we have 'leading' our parties nowadays.
Sturgeon's marketing of Scotland to California students 'The first is that if any of you are uncertain what to do after you leave Stanford, you are very welcome to come to Scotland! We offer a warm welcome and a fantastic quality of life. And our weather is much more interesting than the boring sunshine you get here in California…' https://www.snp.org/nicola_sturgeon_address_at_stanford_university_scotland_s_place_in_the_world
I consider persuading my wife to move from California to the UK one of my more successful (albeit expensive) negotiations
Sturgeon's marketing of Scotland to California students 'The first is that if any of you are uncertain what to do after you leave Stanford, you are very welcome to come to Scotland! We offer a warm welcome and a fantastic quality of life. And our weather is much more interesting than the boring sunshine you get here in California…' https://www.snp.org/nicola_sturgeon_address_at_stanford_university_scotland_s_place_in_the_world
I consider persuading my wife to move from California to the UK one of my more successful (albeit expensive) negotiations
Professor Rallings saying UKIP were not a party from the grassroots up, which is one reason they are struggling now the national debate is less relevant for them. Surely not - why, wasn't their leave campaign group called GrassrootsOut?
Edit: Sh*t, it wasn't.
Damn it, it may not have looked it but I worked hard on that joke.
Apparently 30 or so of the 130 plus of the UKIP seats won last time by which the predictions of losses are to be judged by, are already gone, to by-elections and defections.
Hell of a quote for Labour to hear right now, putting where people reasonably expect them to be in context (that is, the options are bad, but at best not as bad as it could be) - if admittedly on a set of elections not very conducive for them anyway.
Reckless timed his defection to UKIP to cause maximum damage to the Tory party conference.
If he wants back in, then he must do the Walk of Shame into conference, naked from Wales through to the streets of Manchester.
Then conference can vote on whether he has shown enough penitence. I'm hoping not.
Do I get the feeling that he isn't terribly popular in his former party?
There's a lot of Leavers MPs and members in the Tory Party who would like to castrate Mark Reckless with a rusty saw.
It was the timing of his defection that caused so much anger.
Contrast the restraint and sadness shown at Douglas Carswell defecting to UKIP
Churchill's various rattings and re-rattings were discretely conducted behind the oak doors of clubland, but I presume Mr Reckless holds him in high regard.
Not a very good equivalent:
1) Churchill spent several years in coalition with the Conservatives under Lloyd George, in senior cabinet posts;
2) When re-ratting to the Conservatives, he had effectively left the Liberals in 1917 and after 1922 spent a couple of years as an independent before being brought in at Cabinet level by Baldwin on the advice of Neville Chamberlain (who had refused the post of Chancellor) over the angry protests of the ordinary party;
3) He was a talented figure with a proven track record in government (such figures were quite scarce in the Tory party of the 1920s - witness that the Home Secretary of the time, Joynson-Hicks, had only been in cabinet a year and Baldwin himself had been a backbencher less than six years before) and was well-connected politically - a definite catch.
I have to admit it's not a very good equivalent. But Mr Reckless might demur.
Sturgeon's marketing of Scotland to California students 'The first is that if any of you are uncertain what to do after you leave Stanford, you are very welcome to come to Scotland! We offer a warm welcome and a fantastic quality of life. And our weather is much more interesting than the boring sunshine you get here in California…' https://www.snp.org/nicola_sturgeon_address_at_stanford_university_scotland_s_place_in_the_world
She's much more interested in making a name for herself on the world stage than dealing with Scotland's domestic problems: if you can't get independence, act as if you're independent anyway.
Listening to the the discussion, I get the impression I would be a terrible negotiator - I'm far more amendable to compromises than most people it seems, perhaps too amenable.
Sturgeon's marketing of Scotland to California students 'The first is that if any of you are uncertain what to do after you leave Stanford, you are very welcome to come to Scotland! We offer a warm welcome and a fantastic quality of life. And our weather is much more interesting than the boring sunshine you get here in California…' https://www.snp.org/nicola_sturgeon_address_at_stanford_university_scotland_s_place_in_the_world
I consider persuading my wife to move from California to the UK one of my more successful (albeit expensive) negotiations
Listening to the the discussion, I get the impression I would be a terrible negotiator - I'm far more amendable to compromises than most people it seems, perhaps too amenable.
You’d be an appalling negotiator, but then most normal people would be.
Sturgeon's marketing of Scotland to California students 'The first is that if any of you are uncertain what to do after you leave Stanford, you are very welcome to come to Scotland! We offer a warm welcome and a fantastic quality of life. And our weather is much more interesting than the boring sunshine you get here in California…' https://www.snp.org/nicola_sturgeon_address_at_stanford_university_scotland_s_place_in_the_world
She is way above that wooden May. Mind you, it is not very difficult!
Investigators found confidential police documents in the National Front's HQ in Nanterre, it was revealed today. That is precisely the building where the NF has been accused of paying staff unlawfully using EU Parliament money,
Sturgeon's marketing of Scotland to California students 'The first is that if any of you are uncertain what to do after you leave Stanford, you are very welcome to come to Scotland! We offer a warm welcome and a fantastic quality of life. And our weather is much more interesting than the boring sunshine you get here in California…' https://www.snp.org/nicola_sturgeon_address_at_stanford_university_scotland_s_place_in_the_world
I consider persuading my wife to move from California to the UK one of my more successful (albeit expensive) negotiations
UKIP polled 23% of the vote in Hastings in 2013, although they didn't win any seats. They have no candidates standing this time.
Sleazy racists on the slide.
To be fair, politics in Hastings has always been a bit weird. Once upon a time it was in the LibDem Top 10 Winnable Seats ... and so they organised, campaigned, and went into third place. Labour won it in the Blair years, the Conservatives got it back, UKIP surged, the Lib Dems evaporated ... no idea how things stand these days. Could be one to watch for amusement value, though.
there may be a transitional deal for after 2019 to ensure that custom controls and barriers on trade are not enforced on day one of Brexit, but that these arrangements should not exceed three years and will be “limited in scope as they can never be a substitute for union membership”.
She has very little choice. FoM will survive until about 2029 even if we have full Brexit.
EU says three year transition/implementation limit so that would be 2022. That's sellable domestically to Leavers and the Tory party I'd say. 2029 is walk away territory.
Reckless timed his defection to UKIP to cause maximum damage to the Tory party conference.
If he wants back in, then he must do the Walk of Shame into conference, naked from Wales through to the streets of Manchester.
Then conference can vote on whether he has shown enough penitence. I'm hoping not.
Do I get the feeling that he isn't terribly popular in his former party?
There's a lot of Leavers MPs and members in the Tory Party who would like to castrate Mark Reckless with a rusty saw.
It was the timing of his defection that caused so much anger.
Contrast the restraint and sadness shown at Douglas Carswell defecting to UKIP
Churchill's various rattings and re-rattings were discretely conducted behind the oak doors of clubland, but I presume Mr Reckless holds him in high regard.
Not a very good equivalent:
1) Churchill spent several years in coalition with the Conservatives under Lloyd George, in senior cabinet posts;
2) When re-ratting to the Conservatives, he had effectively left the Liberals in 1917 and after 1922 spent a couple of years as an independent before being brought in at Cabinet level by Baldwin on the advice of Neville Chamberlain (who had refused the post of Chancellor) over the angry protests of the ordinary party;
3) He was a talented figure with a proven track record in government (such figures were quite scarce in the Tory party of the 1920s - witness that the Home Secretary of the time, Joynson-Hicks, had only been in cabinet a year and Baldwin himself had been a backbencher less than six years before) and was well-connected politically - a definite catch.
Churchill was a Liberal candidate in Leicester for the 1923 election!
You are over-simplifying his position. He was given official Liberal backing but was almost fully divorced from the official leadership (Asquith) and had fallen out with Lloyd George over a number of things, although the final rupture came over putting Labour into power after the election after which he started calling himself an 'anti-Socialist Consitutionalist'. In effect, he had left the Liberals with Lloyd George in 1916 and never really returned. That said, he didn't officially rejoin the Unionists until 1925, after he joined them in government.
So it looks like after Brexit we will have FoM but we will not be in the Single Market.
You couldn't make it up.
If we aren't in the single market, why would we need to continue with freedom of movement? It would only continue if we stayed within the single market during the transitional period.
I often agree with you but you have a real blind spot when it comes to Nicola. She is class above the rest of the comics we have 'leading' our parties nowadays.
Nicola’s speech is fine words. But, like all politicians, her principles are negotiable.
From her speech, she brags about Scotland’s commitment to climate changes.
"Another area Scotland prioritises is tackling climate change.
In 2012 Scotland became the first country to establish a Climate Justice Fund for developing countries. It recognises that the people affected most by climate change are often those who have done the least to cause it.
And in addition to helping countries to mitigate climate change, we also want to be at the forefront of tackling it.”
Fine words, indeed.
But, when it comes to Scotland’s airports, what is her Government doing. Her Government is proposing to reduce green taxes.
The Air Departure Tax (Scotland) Bill, published by her government in December, proposes to reduce aviation tax by 50% by the end of the current parliament, with the levy eventually abolished "when finances allow”.
This hardly squares with being in the forefront of tackling climate change.
She has very little choice. FoM will survive until about 2029 even if we have full Brexit.
EU says three year transition/implementation limit so that would be 2022. That's sellable domestically to Leavers and the Tory party I'd say. 2029 is walk away territory.
Lol. The only people who matter are 'Leavers' and the Tory Party. May really is a shit PM.
UKIP polled 23% of the vote in Hastings in 2013, although they didn't win any seats. They have no candidates standing this time.
Sleazy racists on the slide.
To be fair, politics in Hastings has always been a bit weird. Once upon a time it was in the LibDem Top 10 Winnable Seats ... and so they organised, campaigned, and went into third place. Labour won it in the Blair years, the Conservatives got it back, UKIP surged, the Lib Dems evaporated ... no idea how things stand these days. Could be one to watch for amusement value, though.
The 23% UKIP share in Hastings probably included a lot of Old Labour voters.
there may be a transitional deal for after 2019 to ensure that custom controls and barriers on trade are not enforced on day one of Brexit, but that these arrangements should not exceed three years and will be “limited in scope as they can never be a substitute for union membership”.
She has very little choice. FoM will survive until about 2029 even if we have full Brexit.
EU says three year transition/implementation limit so that would be 2022. That's sellable domestically to Leavers and the Tory party I'd say. 2029 is walk away territory.
Lol. The only people who matter are 'Leavers' and the Tory Party. May really is a shit PM.
Thank god we have a functioning rational opposition to hold them to account.
UKIP polled 23% of the vote in Hastings in 2013, although they didn't win any seats. They have no candidates standing this time.
Sleazy racists on the slide.
To be fair, politics in Hastings has always been a bit weird. Once upon a time it was in the LibDem Top 10 Winnable Seats ... and so they organised, campaigned, and went into third place. Labour won it in the Blair years, the Conservatives got it back, UKIP surged, the Lib Dems evaporated ... no idea how things stand these days. Could be one to watch for amusement value, though.
The 23% UKIP share in Hastings probably included a lot of Old Labour voters.
And, I dare say, quite a few former Lib Dem protest voters as well.
Reckless timed his defection to UKIP to cause maximum damage to the Tory party conference.
If he wants back in, then he must do the Walk of Shame into conference, naked from Wales through to the streets of Manchester.
Then conference can vote on whether he has shown enough penitence. I'm hoping not.
Do I get the feeling that he isn't terribly popular in his former party?
There's a lot of Leavers MPs and members in the Tory Party who would like to castrate Mark Reckless with a rusty saw.
It was the timing of his defection that caused so much anger.
Contrast the restraint and sadness shown at Douglas Carswell defecting to UKIP
Churchill's various rattings and re-rattings were discretely conducted behind the oak doors of clubland, but I presume Mr Reckless holds him in high regard.
Not a very good equivalent: - a definite catch.
Churchill was a Liberal candidate in Leicester for the 1923 election!
You are over-simplifying his position. He was given official Liberal backing but was almost fully divorced from the official leadership (Asquith) and had fallen out with Lloyd George over a number of things, although the final rupture came over putting Labour into power after the election after which he started calling himself an 'anti-Socialist Consitutionalist'. In effect, he had left the Liberals with Lloyd George in 1916 and never really returned. That said, he didn't officially rejoin the Unionists until 1925, after he joined them in government.
Sounds a bit hair splitting, or over complicating matters - clearly he had not 'in effect' left if he was still an official candidate, even if apart from that the relationship was, as you say, virtually non-existent. It's semantic - 'all but left' might be closer if what you say is right than 'in effect' left, since the former would recognise only the name was remaining, while the latter suggests something more formal, at least to me.
She has very little choice. FoM will survive until about 2029 even if we have full Brexit.
EU says three year transition/implementation limit so that would be 2022. That's sellable domestically to Leavers and the Tory party I'd say. 2029 is walk away territory.
By 2029 Labour could be back in power and have returned the UK to the single market
She has very little choice. FoM will survive until about 2029 even if we have full Brexit.
EU says three year transition/implementation limit so that would be 2022. That's sellable domestically to Leavers and the Tory party I'd say. 2029 is walk away territory.
Lol. The only people who matter are 'Leavers' and the Tory Party. May really is a shit PM.
I take your point but in terms of getting reelected in 2020, well yes, pretty much. Cynical I agree, but she ain't going to pander to Tim Farron's national constituency is she?
So whatever is the final agreement, UK leaving the EU will actually take place in 2022.
UK will probably cease to have Commissioners/MEPs in 2019. The guidelines were quite clear that the transitional period would not just be an extension of membership.
I often agree with you but you have a real blind spot when it comes to Nicola. She is class above the rest of the comics we have 'leading' our parties nowadays.
Nicola’s speech is fine words. But, like all politicians, her principles are negotiable.
From her speech, she brags about Scotland’s commitment to climate changes.
"Another area Scotland prioritises is tackling climate change.
In 2012 Scotland became the first country to establish a Climate Justice Fund for developing countries. It recognises that the people affected most by climate change are often those who have done the least to cause it.
And in addition to helping countries to mitigate climate change, we also want to be at the forefront of tackling it.”
Fine words, indeed.
But, when it comes to Scotland’s airports, what is her Government doing. Her Government is proposing to reduce green taxes.
The Air Departure Tax (Scotland) Bill, published by her government in December, proposes to reduce aviation tax by 50% by the end of the current parliament, with the levy eventually abolished "when finances allow”.
This hardly squares with being in the forefront of tackling climate change.
The SNP attitude is "can we get grants out of that?"
She has very little choice. FoM will survive until about 2029 even if we have full Brexit.
EU says three year transition/implementation limit so that would be 2022. That's sellable domestically to Leavers and the Tory party I'd say. 2029 is walk away territory.
By 2029 Labour could be back in power and have returned the UK to the single market
And if pigs could fly, New Scotland Yard would be London's third airport....
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I am one with the force, the force is one with me.
I think they're just enjoying seeing if they can get Ken to go over 60 hph.
(hph - hitlers per hour).
I believe the go to academic on 9/11 is called Joy Karega...
Admittedly he would considerably raise the average ability and integrity of the Sennedd Labour Party while slightly reducing the average waistline, but I somehow don't see Carwyn Jones welcoming him in.
Is TSE saying anything? I hear he's got his poker face on.
If he wants back in, then he must do the Walk of Shame into conference, naked from Wales through to the streets of Manchester.
Then conference can vote on whether he has shown enough penitence. I'm hoping not.
It was the timing of his defection that caused so much anger.
Contrast the restraint and sadness shown at Douglas Carswell defecting to UKIP
1) Churchill spent several years in coalition with the Conservatives under Lloyd George, in senior cabinet posts;
2) When re-ratting to the Conservatives, he had effectively left the Liberals in 1917 and after 1922 spent a couple of years as an independent before being brought in at Cabinet level by Baldwin on the advice of Neville Chamberlain (who had refused the post of Chancellor) over the angry protests of the ordinary party;
3) He was a talented figure with a proven track record in government (such figures were quite scarce in the Tory party of the 1920s - witness that the Home Secretary of the time, Joynson-Hicks, had only been in cabinet a year and Baldwin himself had been a backbencher less than six years before) and was well-connected politically - a definite catch.
Con 2,256 No Change
Lab 2,179 Plus 5
LDem 1,907 Plus 159
Green 1,266 Plus 395
UKIP 1,121 Minus 633
All Others/Inds 762 Minus 276
But really, Mr Eagles, everyone knows that a rusty saw is the wrong implement. Two bricks. That's the way to go. Small ones so you have to have a couple of tries.
Her fight against the EU began long before UKIP was even thought of and she was one of the irreplaceable experts whose in depth knowledge of the workings of the EU informed the whole movement. I believe she was of Hungarian descent and alongside her Euroscepticism she was a staunch opponent of Russian expansionism both in its Soviet and more recently its Putinesque forms.
I am glad she lived long enough to see the Brexit vote and Article 50 enacted but greatly saddened that her voice of intelligence and moderation will no longer be heard.
https://www.snp.org/nicola_sturgeon_address_at_stanford_university_scotland_s_place_in_the_world
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/849708079545556992
I often agree with you but you have a real blind spot when it comes to Nicola. She is class above the rest of the comics we have 'leading' our parties nowadays.
Edit: Sh*t, it wasn't.
Damn it, it may not have looked it but I worked hard on that joke.
Hell of a quote for Labour to hear right now, putting where people reasonably expect them to be in context (that is, the options are bad, but at best not as bad as it could be) - if admittedly on a set of elections not very conducive for them anyway.
Total number of seats in England 2,370
Also 107 English council by elections , candidates known for 102 of them
Cpn 102
Lab 80
LDem 80
Green 50
UKIP 41
Ind/Others 32
They may come back in some form (as an immigration protest party) if May doesn't deliver meaningful controls in the next 5 years or so.
England: 2,370 seats in 2,190 divisions.
Wales: 1,254 seats in 852 divisions.
Edit: Mark beat me to it as usual.
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/849728679034990594
there may be a transitional deal for after 2019 to ensure that custom controls and barriers on trade are not enforced on day one of Brexit, but that these arrangements should not exceed three years and will be “limited in scope as they can never be a substitute for union membership”.
You couldn't make it up.
From her speech, she brags about Scotland’s commitment to climate changes.
"Another area Scotland prioritises is tackling climate change.
In 2012 Scotland became the first country to establish a Climate Justice Fund for developing countries. It recognises that the people affected most by climate change are often those who have done the least to cause it.
And in addition to helping countries to mitigate climate change, we also want to be at the forefront of tackling it.”
Fine words, indeed.
But, when it comes to Scotland’s airports, what is her Government doing. Her Government is proposing to reduce green taxes.
The Air Departure Tax (Scotland) Bill, published by her government in December, proposes to reduce aviation tax by 50% by the end of the current parliament, with the levy eventually abolished "when finances allow”.
This hardly squares with being in the forefront of tackling climate change.
oh.
Tackling climate change is cock anyway.