Yep - that's just about spot on. Corbyn's loss of support in London is stunning; and that's where the largest concentration of the membership is. The PLP's wait and see strategy means a lit more short-term pain, but it is clearly the correct one to be following.
Assuming a 2020 general election - do you think there is any electoral difference between a scenario where Corbyn goes this year or next?
I have it on good authority from City Hall, that Sadiq Khan will serve only one term as London Mayor. In 2019, he will find a safe London seat and get elected. He will stand to be LOTO in 2020 after Labour's electoral defeat. His competition is likely to be Starmer and one of Balls or Cooper. if Jezza goes before 2020, then he may re-stand as Mayor. He is the best liar and will appeal to all current Labour voters.
Not being a betting man, what the Sadiq Khan odds versus Starmer and Balls/Cooper?
I would have Sadiq Khan as about a 5/2 favourite overall in the circumstance you describe - Corbyn making it to 2020, Khan standing down, Khan finding and winning a seat (not necessarily so easy).
If he was up against the other two he'd win handily. But there'll be at least one more left-wing contender too.
He plays a good, "I am a left winger to lefties and right winger to righties." He will find a safe seat, no doubt; he's got great contacts in London. If Corbyn makes it to 2020, then Khan is very likely to do this. He will want to keep Corbyn in place until then. I think he is unbeatable.
Why would Khan not prefer for someone else to play Kinnock to his Blair, while he wins a second term?
He wants to be Prime Minister. Mayor of London is about Police, Fire Brigade and Transport. Nothing else. And all 3 organisations have very powerful senior management. The Mayoralty is nothing like a Mayor in many big cities. Boris got bored. I'm told Khan is already bored too.
If you want to be Prime Minister you don't want to start with 150 MPs.
But where do you start? He is mid-40s. He will be mid-fifties in 2025.
Richmond Park was an exceptionally awful by-election for Labour. Less votes than members ffake !
I wonder if the +40 for Corbyn to -1 in London amongst members challenges the previous assumption that Labour will hold up better in London than elsewhere. They did so in 2015 (Ilford North was a nice Labour winner for me), but the London 2020 results may not be so different to the general hammering Labour will get outside the capital as a result of Corbyn's stance on Brexit !
Time to rethink London exceptionalism ?
Bigger Lab -> Lib Dem, and smaller upward Tory swings than provincial E&W, but leading to similiar net Lab -> Tory perhaps..
Tory figures in London by-elections since 2015 GE are simply terrible. I can't see any upside for the blues, and no down side for the red peril. Hope I am wrong.
According to Yougov crossbreaks the Tories have a 16% lead in London now - equivalent to a 12.5% swing!
Christ. That's wonderful. This must be recent. Some senior tory chaps I met were talking about the blues winning back some London boroughs, but I took it with a pinch of salt. Thank you.
I have just checked . The poll I was referring to was Yougov's poll of 2 weeks ago. Their most recent poll shows a 7% Tory lead in London - still equivalent to a swing of 8%.
Very interesting thread header, Kieran, thank you - oh, and thanks to @Election-Data for his public-spirited funding of the poll. Really interesting information.
She's cutting it fine if she wants a May 4th general election, she'd has less than three weeks to prorogue/dissolve Parliament, even before we get to the FTPA.
Agreed. It's a tragedy, of course, that we won't get all the Star Wars jokes or the once-in-a-lifetime "Vote 4 May on 4 May".
You don't think she'll still be Tory leader at an election in 2023?
On topic, I am in the approx 3% of Labour Party members who voted Leave and disapprove of Jezza. Plenty of spare seats on our battle bus.
I guess "Corbynites for Hilary" is an even more select group.
I think Lewis is actually playing a good game, potentially picking up support from across the party to come through the middle. Remember that 'soft left' is our natural 'home'.
Richmond Park was an exceptionally awful by-election for Labour. Less votes than members ffake !
I wonder if the +40 for Corbyn to -1 in London amongst members challenges the previous assumption that Labour will hold up better in London than elsewhere. They did so in 2015 (Ilford North was a nice Labour winner for me), but the London 2020 results may not be so different to the general hammering Labour will get outside the capital as a result of Corbyn's stance on Brexit !
Time to rethink London exceptionalism ?
Bigger Lab -> Lib Dem, and smaller upward Tory swings than provincial E&W, but leading to similiar net Lab -> Tory perhaps..
Tory figures in London by-elections since 2015 GE are simply terrible. I can't see any upside for the blues, and no down side for the red peril. Hope I am wrong.
According to Yougov crossbreaks the Tories have a 16% lead in London now - equivalent to a 12.5% swing!
Christ. That's wonderful. This must be recent. Some senior tory chaps I met were talking about the blues winning back some London boroughs, but I took it with a pinch of salt. Thank you.
I have just checked . The poll I was referring to was Yougov's poll of 2 weeks ago. Their most recent poll shows a 7% Tory lead in London - still equivalent to a swing of 8%.
In most seats we need bigger swing. Labour hold quite a few boroughs with almost 100% of cllrs. Lewisham, Dagenham, that place with West Ham in it etc. Most red MPs have big majorities, not all.
Yep - that's just about spot on. Corbyn's loss of support in London is stunning; and that's where the largest concentration of the membership is. The PLP's wait and see strategy means a lit more short-term pain, but it is clearly the correct one to be following.
Assuming a 2020 general election - do you think there is any electoral difference between a scenario where Corbyn goes this year or next?
You wonder if losses in the 2018 London locals could be the blow that finishes Corbyn off It's very hard to see how Labour can do better considering how many councillors they already have e.g:
Yep - that's just about spot on. Corbyn's loss of support in London is stunning; and that's where the largest concentration of the membership is. The PLP's wait and see strategy means a lit more short-term pain, but it is clearly the correct one to be following.
Assuming a 2020 general election - do you think there is any electoral difference between a scenario where Corbyn goes this year or next?
You wonder if losses in the 2018 London locals could be the blow that finishes Corbyn off It's very hard to see how Labour can do better considering how many councillors they already have e.g:
You can add Lambeth - 59/63 to that list. Would be astonished if the Lib Dems didn't make some kind of comeback from the 0 Councillors they currently have given how strong a 'Remain' vote Lambeth produced.
It'd be a pretty shocking outcome for those on the left of Labour if Umunna ended up winning the leadership. The Blairite candidate in the 2015 got 4%, there was no danger of Labour going in that directon whatsoever. Yet Labour's performance in the last year or two under Corbyn may well have pushed Labour's anti-Corbyn members to the right.
Jeremy Corbyn's opponents need a plausible cause on which to act, to convert that wish to see Jeremy Corbyn stand down into a vote against him in a leadership election. Given the membership's Europhilia, something Brexit-related looks like a good bet.
They should make sure he gets put on the spot about Brexit putting Vauxhall's Luton plant at risk.
It's at risk because GM Europe consistently loses money and had to sell GMAC. Why do you think that Brexit is the reason?
Die-hard Remainers will blame anything and everything on Brexit.
You mean like you guys used to blame everything on the EU? Boot firmly on the other foot from here on in.
If one side acted poorly before, it shouldn't be emulated now the other side is in the ascendency.
It'd be a pretty shocking outcome for those on the left of Labour if Umunna ended up winning the leadership. The Blairite candidate in the 2015 got 4%, there was no danger of Labour going in that directon whatsoever. Yet Labour's performance in the last year or two under Corbyn may well have pushed Labour's anti-Corbyn members to the right.
I think, beyond the nutters of the far left, most Labour members are fairly flexible and pretty sane. They are also keen on winning elections (not a priority of the far left). Remember that Chuka would have won fairly easily last time, had he not stood down from the contest.
The issues behind that withdrawal still remains for him – he would need to overcome his own resistance to having his past laid out before him. I don't think most potential Labour voters would give a toss that he partied quite hard when a DJ in Manchester in the 1990s, not in this day and age. He can leave the curtain-twitchery to the Tory right.
(I must declare an interest – I have a longstanding bet at 27/1 on him)
Jeremy Corbyn's opponents need a plausible cause on which to act, to convert that wish to see Jeremy Corbyn stand down into a vote against him in a leadership election. Given the membership's Europhilia, something Brexit-related looks like a good bet.
Wasn't that essentially what they did last year though?
The strategy now for the PLP and Labour is simple. Give only lukewarm support for Corbyn for the next 12 months then see him fall in the spring of 2018. He has probably a year, at most, before the unions pull the plug.
Yep - that's just about spot on. Corbyn's loss of support in London is stunning; and that's where the largest concentration of the membership is. The PLP's wait and see strategy means a lit more short-term pain, but it is clearly the correct one to be following.
Assuming a 2020 general election - do you think there is any electoral difference between a scenario where Corbyn goes this year or next?
You wonder if losses in the 2018 London locals could be the blow that finishes Corbyn off It's very hard to see how Labour can do better considering how many councillors they already have e.g:
Richmond Park was an exceptionally awful by-election for Labour. Less votes than members ffake !
I wonder if the +40 for Corbyn to -1 in London amongst members challenges the previous assumption that Labour will hold up better in London than elsewhere. They did so in 2015 (Ilford North was a nice Labour winner for me), but the London 2020 results may not be so different to the general hammering Labour will get outside the capital as a result of Corbyn's stance on Brexit !
Time to rethink London exceptionalism ?
Bigger Lab -> Lib Dem, and smaller upward Tory swings than provincial E&W, but leading to similiar net Lab -> Tory perhaps..
Tory figures in London by-elections since 2015 GE are simply terrible. I can't see any upside for the blues, and no down side for the red peril. Hope I am wrong.
There has only been Tooting, right? 7.3% wasn't terrible for an incumbent government, I wouldn't have thought?
Yep - that's just about spot on. Corbyn's loss of support in London is stunning; and that's where the largest concentration of the membership is. The PLP's wait and see strategy means a lit more short-term pain, but it is clearly the correct one to be following.
Assuming a 2020 general election - do you think there is any electoral difference between a scenario where Corbyn goes this year or next?
You wonder if losses in the 2018 London locals could be the blow that finishes Corbyn off It's very hard to see how Labour can do better considering how many councillors they already have e.g:
You can add Lambeth - 59/63 to that list. Would be astonished if the Lib Dems didn't make some kind of comeback from the 0 Councillors they currently have given how strong a 'Remain' vote Lambeth produced.
Libdems suffered big losses across London in 2014, being wiped out altogether in a fair few Boroughs. Some level of gains in many of them looks very likely, most of it at Labour's expense. The challenge they will face, particularly given some of the spectacular local by-election results recently even in Leave-leaning areas, is how many to aim for; go for a few and be certain, or aim higher but risk spreading activity too thinly.
Richmond Park was an exceptionally awful by-election for Labour. Less votes than members ffake !
I wonder if the +40 for Corbyn to -1 in London amongst members challenges the previous assumption that Labour will hold up better in London than elsewhere. They did so in 2015 (Ilford North was a nice Labour winner for me), but the London 2020 results may not be so different to the general hammering Labour will get outside the capital as a result of Corbyn's stance on Brexit !
Time to rethink London exceptionalism ?
Bigger Lab -> Lib Dem, and smaller upward Tory swings than provincial E&W, but leading to similiar net Lab -> Tory perhaps..
Tory figures in London by-elections since 2015 GE are simply terrible. I can't see any upside for the blues, and no down side for the red peril. Hope I am wrong.
There has only been Tooting, right? 7.3% wasn't terrible for an incumbent government, I wouldn't have thought?
It'd be a pretty shocking outcome for those on the left of Labour if Umunna ended up winning the leadership. The Blairite candidate in the 2015 got 4%, there was no danger of Labour going in that directon whatsoever. Yet Labour's performance in the last year or two under Corbyn may well have pushed Labour's anti-Corbyn members to the right.
I think, beyond the nutters of the far left, most Labour members are fairly flexible and pretty sane. They are also keen on winning elections (not a priority of the far left). Remember that Chuka would have won fairly easily last time, had he not stood down from the contest.
The issues behind that withdrawal still remains for him – he would need to overcome his own resistance to having his past laid out before him. I don't think most potential Labour voters would give a toss that he partied quite hard when a DJ in Manchester in the 1990s, not in this day and age. He can leave the curtain-twitchery to the Tory right.
(I must declare an interest – I have a longstanding bet at 27/1 on him)
I am not sure even the Tories care that much these days. Cameron did drugs, nobody gave a shit. How many Tory ministers have come out as gay over the past 5 years, even the ones who have wives and kids, they aren't even one day headlines now. Even had a Tory former minister arguing for poppers to remain legal as he likes using them...again you can just hear the wind whistle by.
I doubt stories of partying, some casual drug use and bonking about would really damage him. Could it be something worse / more embarrassing?
It'd be a pretty shocking outcome for those on the left of Labour if Umunna ended up winning the leadership. The Blairite candidate in the 2015 got 4%, there was no danger of Labour going in that directon whatsoever. Yet Labour's performance in the last year or two under Corbyn may well have pushed Labour's anti-Corbyn members to the right.
I think, beyond the nutters of the far left, most Labour members are fairly flexible and pretty sane. They are also keen on winning elections (not a priority of the far left). Remember that Chuka would have won fairly easily last time, had he not stood down from the contest.
The issues behind that withdrawal still remains for him – he would need to overcome his own resistance to having his past laid out before him. I don't think most potential Labour voters would give a toss that he partied quite hard when a DJ in Manchester in the 1990s, not in this day and age. He can leave the curtain-twitchery to the Tory right.
(I must declare an interest – I have a longstanding bet at 27/1 on him)
I am not sure even the Tories care that much these days. Cameron did drugs, nobody gave a shit. How many Tory ministers have come out as gay over the past 5 years, even the ones who have wives and kids, they aren't even one day headlines now. Even had a Tory former minister arguing for poppers to remain legal as he likes using them...again you can just hear the wind whistle by.
I doubt stories of partying, some casual drug use and bonking about would really damage him. Could it be something worse / more embarrassing?
My understanding is that it is the former, and that it is more conservative elements of his African family that concern him. I agree about the Tories – hence my qualification. They still have a very socially conservative right wing (Cornerstones) but their influence has undoubtedly dwindled over the years.
It'd be a pretty shocking outcome for those on the left of Labour if Umunna ended up winning the leadership. The Blairite candidate in the 2015 got 4%, there was no danger of Labour going in that directon whatsoever. Yet Labour's performance in the last year or two under Corbyn may well have pushed Labour's anti-Corbyn members to the right.
I think, beyond the nutters of the far left, most Labour members are fairly flexible and pretty sane. They are also keen on winning elections (not a priority of the far left). Remember that Chuka would have won fairly easily last time, had he not stood down from the contest.
The issues behind that withdrawal still remains for him – he would need to overcome his own resistance to having his past laid out before him. I don't think most potential Labour voters would give a toss that he partied quite hard when a DJ in Manchester in the 1990s, not in this day and age. He can leave the curtain-twitchery to the Tory right.
(I must declare an interest – I have a longstanding bet at 27/1 on him)
I am not sure even the Tories care that much these days. Cameron did drugs, nobody gave a shit. How many Tory ministers have come out as gay over the past 5 years, even the ones who have wives and kids, they aren't even one day headlines now. Even had a Tory former minister arguing for poppers to remain legal as he likes using them...again you can just hear the wind whistle by.
I doubt stories of partying, some casual drug use and bonking about would really damage him. Could it be something worse / more embarrassing?
Obvious joke alert - he's already Labour, what could be more embarrassing?
It'd be a pretty shocking outcome for those on the left of Labour if Umunna ended up winning the leadership. The Blairite candidate in the 2015 got 4%, there was no danger of Labour going in that directon whatsoever. Yet Labour's performance in the last year or two under Corbyn may well have pushed Labour's anti-Corbyn members to the right.
I think, beyond the nutters of the far left, most Labour members are fairly flexible and pretty sane. They are also keen on winning elections (not a priority of the far left). Remember that Chuka would have won fairly easily last time, had he not stood down from the contest.
The issues behind that withdrawal still remains for him – he would need to overcome his own resistance to having his past laid out before him. I don't think most potential Labour voters would give a toss that he partied quite hard when a DJ in Manchester in the 1990s, not in this day and age. He can leave the curtain-twitchery to the Tory right.
(I must declare an interest – I have a longstanding bet at 27/1 on him)
I am not sure even the Tories care that much these days. Cameron did drugs, nobody gave a shit. How many Tory ministers have come out as gay over the past 5 years, even the ones who have wives and kids, they aren't even one day headlines now. Even had a Tory former minister arguing for poppers to remain legal as he likes using them...again you can just hear the wind whistle by.
I doubt stories of partying, some casual drug use and bonking about would really damage him. Could it be something worse / more embarrassing?
Obvious joke alert - he's already Labour, what could be more embarrassing?
Well that stunt he tried to pull about going to Swindon to announce was pretty embarrassing.
Like Sion Simon is back in the news...another blast from the past...probably not as embarrassing as when he was exposed as Walter Mitty type ala Paul Nuttall.
He needed a wheelchair!': Kate Garraway reveals her two-week sex challenge with husband Derek resulted in a trip to A&E
I have it on good authority from City Hall, that Sadiq Khan will serve only one term as London Mayor. In 2019, he will find a safe London seat and get elected. He will stand to be LOTO in 2020 after Labour's electoral defeat. His competition is likely to be Starmer and one of Balls or Cooper. if Jezza goes before 2020, then he may re-stand as Mayor. He is the best liar and will appeal to all current Labour voters.
Not being a betting man, what the Sadiq Khan odds versus Starmer and Balls/Cooper?
I don't doubt your intel, but Khan would be a huge loss to London. Another reason to get rid of Corbyn next year to avoid Sadiq having to stand down to save the party.
Rather selfish of you not to want to share him with the rest of the country.
(How many promises has he broken since he was elected?)
Richmond Park was an exceptionally awful by-election for Labour. Less votes than members ffake !
I wonder if the +40 for Corbyn to -1 in London amongst members challenges the previous assumption that Labour will hold up better in London than elsewhere. They did so in 2015 (Ilford North was a nice Labour winner for me), but the London 2020 results may not be so different to the general hammering Labour will get outside the capital as a result of Corbyn's stance on Brexit !
Time to rethink London exceptionalism ?
Bigger Lab -> Lib Dem, and smaller upward Tory swings than provincial E&W, but leading to similiar net Lab -> Tory perhaps..
Tory figures in London by-elections since 2015 GE are simply terrible. I can't see any upside for the blues, and no down side for the red peril. Hope I am wrong.
There has only been Tooting, right? 7.3% wasn't terrible for an incumbent government, I wouldn't have thought?
Like Sion Simon is back in the news...another blast from the past...probably not as embarrassing as when he was exposed as Walter Mitty type ala Paul Nuttall.
He needed a wheelchair!': Kate Garraway reveals her two-week sex challenge with husband Derek resulted in a trip to A&E
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Yep - that's just about spot on. Corbyn's loss of support in London is stunning; and that's where the largest concentration of the membership is. The PLP's wait and see strategy means a lit more short-term pain, but it is clearly the correct one to be following.
Assuming a 2020 general election - do you think there is any electoral difference between a scenario where Corbyn goes this year or next?
You wonder if losses in the 2018 London locals could be the blow that finishes Corbyn off It's very hard to see how Labour can do better considering how many councillors they already have e.g:
Yep - that's just about spot on. Corbyn's loss of support in London is stunning; and that's where the largest concentration of the membership is. The PLP's wait and see strategy means a lit more short-term pain, but it is clearly the correct one to be following.
Assuming a 2020 general election - do you think there is any electoral difference between a scenario where Corbyn goes this year or next?
You wonder if losses in the 2018 London locals could be the blow that finishes Corbyn off It's very hard to see how Labour can do better considering how many councillors they already have e.g:
You can add Lambeth - 59/63 to that list. Would be astonished if the Lib Dems didn't make some kind of comeback from the 0 Councillors they currently have given how strong a 'Remain' vote Lambeth produced.
Libs will pick up a few. And they think they can re-take boroughs of Kingston and maybe Richmond
Like Sion Simon is back in the news...another blast from the past...probably not as embarrassing as when he was exposed as Walter Mitty type ala Paul Nuttall.
He needed a wheelchair!': Kate Garraway reveals her two-week sex challenge with husband Derek resulted in a trip to A&E
Like Sion Simon is back in the news...another blast from the past...probably not as embarrassing as when he was exposed as Walter Mitty type ala Paul Nuttall.
He needed a wheelchair!': Kate Garraway reveals her two-week sex challenge with husband Derek resulted in a trip to A&E
Stewart Wood @StewartWood 3h3 hours ago Stewart Wood Retweeted Stewart Wood Against general wisdom I still expect a May election. The PM needs a working majority & Brexit negotiating mandate, & currently has neither.
Richmond Park was an exceptionally awful by-election for Labour. Less votes than members ffake !
I wonder if the +40 for Corbyn to -1 in London amongst members challenges the previous assumption that Labour will hold up better in London than elsewhere. They did so in 2015 (Ilford North was a nice Labour winner for me), but the London 2020 results may not be so different to the general hammering Labour will get outside the capital as a result of Corbyn's stance on Brexit !
Time to rethink London exceptionalism ?
Bigger Lab -> Lib Dem, and smaller upward Tory swings than provincial E&W, but leading to similiar net Lab -> Tory perhaps..
Tory figures in London by-elections since 2015 GE are simply terrible. I can't see any upside for the blues, and no down side for the red peril. Hope I am wrong.
There has only been Tooting, right? 7.3% wasn't terrible for an incumbent government, I wouldn't have thought?
Obviously Richmond Park was a London by-election too, but I discount that as no official Tory candidate stood.
The Council by elections and the Mayoralty and the Assembly Member elections. That's about 20 odd elections. Mostly, swings to Labour.
You said "London by-elections since 2015 GE" which is only Tooting and, if you want to count it, Richmond Park. The mayoralty is too personality-driven and has too small a sample size to relate to general election voting, unlike parliamentary by-elections. And it's the relationship that matters, we expect swings to Labour because they're in opposition and it's midterm.
Richmond Park was an exceptionally awful by-election for Labour. Less votes than members ffake !
I wonder if the +40 for Corbyn to -1 in London amongst members challenges the previous assumption that Labour will hold up better in London than elsewhere. They did so in 2015 (Ilford North was a nice Labour winner for me), but the London 2020 results may not be so different to the general hammering Labour will get outside the capital as a result of Corbyn's stance on Brexit !
Time to rethink London exceptionalism ?
Bigger Lab -> Lib Dem, and smaller upward Tory swings than provincial E&W, but leading to similiar net Lab -> Tory perhaps..
Tory figures in London by-elections since 2015 GE are simply terrible. I can't see any upside for the blues, and no down side for the red peril. Hope I am wrong.
There has only been Tooting, right? 7.3% wasn't terrible for an incumbent government, I wouldn't have thought?
Obviously Richmond Park was a London by-election too, but I discount that as no official Tory candidate stood.
The Council by elections and the Mayoralty and the Assembly Member elections. That's about 20 odd elections. Mostly, swings to Labour.
You said "London by-elections since 2015 GE" which is only Tooting and, if you want to count it, Richmond Park. The mayoralty is too personality-driven and has too small a sample size to relate to general election voting, unlike parliamentary by-elections. And it's the relationship that matters, we expect swings to Labour because they're in opposition and it's midterm.
Sorry, I mis-spoke. All elections: council, parliament, assembly, mayoralty
Like Sion Simon is back in the news...another blast from the past...probably not as embarrassing as when he was exposed as Walter Mitty type ala Paul Nuttall.
He needed a wheelchair!': Kate Garraway reveals her two-week sex challenge with husband Derek resulted in a trip to A&E
Like Sion Simon is back in the news...another blast from the past...probably not as embarrassing as when he was exposed as Walter Mitty type ala Paul Nuttall.
He needed a wheelchair!': Kate Garraway reveals her two-week sex challenge with husband Derek resulted in a trip to A&E
It'd be a pretty shocking outcome for those on the left of Labour if Umunna ended up winning the leadership. The Blairite candidate in the 2015 got 4%, there was no danger of Labour going in that directon whatsoever. Yet Labour's performance in the last year or two under Corbyn may well have pushed Labour's anti-Corbyn members to the right.
I think, beyond the nutters of the far left, most Labour members are fairly flexible and pretty sane. They are also keen on winning elections (not a priority of the far left). Remember that Chuka would have won fairly easily last time, had he not stood down from the contest.
The issues behind that withdrawal still remains for him – he would need to overcome his own resistance to having his past laid out before him. I don't think most potential Labour voters would give a toss that he partied quite hard when a DJ in Manchester in the 1990s, not in this day and age. He can leave the curtain-twitchery to the Tory right.
(I must declare an interest – I have a longstanding bet at 27/1 on him)
I am not sure even the Tories care that much these days. Cameron did drugs, nobody gave a shit. How many Tory ministers have come out as gay over the past 5 years, even the ones who have wives and kids, they aren't even one day headlines now. Even had a Tory former minister arguing for poppers to remain legal as he likes using them...again you can just hear the wind whistle by.
I doubt stories of partying, some casual drug use and bonking about would really damage him. Could it be something worse / more embarrassing?
What I'd heard at the time was that his past would upset his grandparents (I think strict Catholics?) and he didn't want to do that. That's plausible.
Stewart Wood @StewartWood 3h3 hours ago Stewart Wood Retweeted Stewart Wood Against general wisdom I still expect a May election. The PM needs a working majority & Brexit negotiating mandate, & currently has neither.
That seems to read as him expecting May to call an election purely because he would.
Like Sion Simon is back in the news...another blast from the past...probably not as embarrassing as when he was exposed as Walter Mitty type ala Paul Nuttall.
He needed a wheelchair!': Kate Garraway reveals her two-week sex challenge with husband Derek resulted in a trip to A&E
Stewart Wood @StewartWood 3h3 hours ago Stewart Wood Retweeted Stewart Wood Against general wisdom I still expect a May election. The PM needs a working majority & Brexit negotiating mandate, & currently has neither.
That seems to read as him expecting May to call an election purely because he would.
I'd ignore.
Oh, I agree. I'm not betting against May carrying out what she said she would i.e. no early election. Thought it was of interest though.
Yep - that's just about spot on. Corbyn's loss of support in London is stunning; and that's where the largest concentration of the membership is. The PLP's wait and see strategy means a lit more short-term pain, but it is clearly the correct one to be following.
It seems that the membership doesn't believe he's a Remainer and for a majority of those in London that's a deal breaker and as that's his power base he's surely finished.
Yep - that's just about spot on. Corbyn's loss of support in London is stunning; and that's where the largest concentration of the membership is. The PLP's wait and see strategy means a lit more short-term pain, but it is clearly the correct one to be following.
It seems that the membership doesn't believe he's a Remainer and for a majority of those in London that's a deal breaker and as that's his power base he's surely finished.
If that was a deal-breaker, isn't it a bit late to be having the debate this coming summer? The evidence was there in the 2015 and 2016 contests, when a different leader might have made some difference to the Brexit process.
A builder has been jailed for two years after making more than £1million over the course of a decade by pretending to have a PhD to become chairman of two NHS Trusts.
There is hope for Paul Nuttall of getting a cushy public servant gig after all...
On a serious note, why the f##k aren't people checking at interview stage. It takes one phone call to the university (well in this case, 3, as he claimed all sorts).
Yep - that's just about spot on. Corbyn's loss of support in London is stunning; and that's where the largest concentration of the membership is. The PLP's wait and see strategy means a lit more short-term pain, but it is clearly the correct one to be following.
It seems that the membership doesn't believe he's a Remainer and for a majority of those in London that's a deal breaker and as that's his power base he's surely finished.
If that was a deal-breaker, isn't it a bit late to be having the debate this coming summer? The evidence was there in the 2015 and 2016 contests, when a different leader might have made some difference to the Brexit process.
I don't think it was conclusive. The three line whip was the coup de grace
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A builder has been jailed for two years after making more than £1million over the course of a decade by pretending to have a PhD to become chairman of two NHS Trusts.
There is hope for Paul Nuttall of getting a cushy public servant gig after all...
On a serious note, why the f##k aren't people checking at interview stage. It takes one phone call to the university (well in this case, 3, as he claimed all sorts).
Reminds me of one of my favourite movies, "Paper Mask". A hospital porter gets himself a white coat and a stethoscope and a job as a hospital doctor.
A builder has been jailed for two years after making more than £1million over the course of a decade by pretending to have a PhD to become chairman of two NHS Trusts.
There is hope for Paul Nuttall of getting a cushy public servant gig after all...
On a serious note, why the f##k aren't people checking at interview stage. It takes one phone call to the university (well in this case, 3, as he claimed all sorts).
He seems to have done a perfectly job in the posts he obtained; I would have gone with a caution for him and suspended sentences for the numpties who gave him the jobs without checking.
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I guess "Corbynites for Hilary" is an even more select group.
I think Lewis is actually playing a good game, potentially picking up support from across the party to come through the middle. Remember that 'soft left' is our natural 'home'.
Lewisham -53/54
Newham - 59/60
Islington - 47/48
Barking - 50/51
https://twitter.com/renaudpila/status/838753972483678209
But, Fillon might still refuse to step down and Baroin to step up.
The issues behind that withdrawal still remains for him – he would need to overcome his own resistance to having his past laid out before him. I don't think most potential Labour voters would give a toss that he partied quite hard when a DJ in Manchester in the 1990s, not in this day and age. He can leave the curtain-twitchery to the Tory right.
(I must declare an interest – I have a longstanding bet at 27/1 on him)
Vote olives and TAKE BACK CONTROL.
Edited extra bit: F1: Wehrlein fit for the test. Good for him, otherwise he'd be going into the season with 0 miles under his belt in the new car.
It doesn't get any better.
No doubt there is some dodgy kebab joint in Headingley that would offer such a delicacy.
Obviously Richmond Park was a London by-election too, but I discount that as no official Tory candidate stood.
I despise mushrooms. Smell, texture, taste, and their potency, where in even in small amounts they contaminate and ruin food. Ugh.
Cd Twtr + Bxit dstry Eng lang?
I doubt stories of partying, some casual drug use and bonking about would really damage him. Could it be something worse / more embarrassing?
Auto correct and weird capitalisation might though. Mines all over The Place.
Have you somehow ended up putting the wrong species on your tomato base?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psilocybe_semilanceata
I'm very happy with my book at the moment.
Roll on St George's Day.
I really struggle to understand Twenglish sometimes.
EDIT: I see Bobajob makes a similar point.
He needed a wheelchair!': Kate Garraway reveals her two-week sex challenge with husband Derek resulted in a trip to A&E
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4285448/Kate-Garraway-tried-two-week-sex-challenge.html
'Cosmo haggis pizza'
http://tinyurl.com/hzzgnmt
Haggis pakora is very nice, mind.
(How many promises has he broken since he was elected?)
Ms Conway, a senior aide to Mr Trump, told Fox News that Iraq would be left off the list of countries whose citizens will banned from the US.
Citizens of Iran, Libya, Syria, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen, the other six countries on the original list, would once more be subject to a 90-day travel ban.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39183153
So now no Afghanistan or Iraq banned...or obviously Saudi, etc etc etc...hmmm...
atIN Berkeley ...Stewart Wood Retweeted Stewart Wood
Against general wisdom I still expect a May election. The PM needs a working majority & Brexit negotiating mandate, & currently has neither.
I'd ignore.
https://twitter.com/try2shootusdown/status/838224236040708096
It's a Cons-piracy.
Or bottom two as in "Under 15%" and "15-20%"? The bottom two by performance.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/06/donald-trump-does-not-believe-james-comeys-insistence-trump/
"Sarkozy would rather lose with Fillon than win with Juppé" - Juppé ally:
Corbyn Explains Tax Figures 18 Hours Later | Blames Offshore Media Owners https://t.co/BJc1R3vx3l https://t.co/4GETEr8lMh
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4286080/Walter-Mitty-NHS-chief-63-lied-having-PhD.html
There is hope for Paul Nuttall of getting a cushy public servant gig after all...
On a serious note, why the f##k aren't people checking at interview stage. It takes one phone call to the university (well in this case, 3, as he claimed all sorts).
Again it is stonking PR. Making a total tit of oneself then continuing to draw attention to it.
Here's François getting woken up by his dad:
https://www.ina.fr/video/R10183888
I have found one source saying that before he died in a plane crash Michel had presidential ambitions.
I thought they just pull it off the network whoever they want to bug.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100330/?ref_=nv_sr_1