If you think the "As a Father" bereaved relative Claire Perry porn filterathon was stomach churning wait until Date Night Dave gets stuck into the marriage tax break
Got to give you credit lad,the way you defend the pi$$ poor two that are at the top of the labour party.
I've always made it clear that I'd have Alistair Darling as Labour leader every day of the week. But Cameron's As a father routine makes me want to throw up - I thought his milking of Brooke Kinsella two weeks before the election was sick but the bereaved relatives on the Downing Street sofa-child murder-Claire Perry porn stuff plumbs new depths.
It was a compliment ;-) Maybe Cameron is a concerned father but gets the wrong advice and he is to Quick to jump on it without the think through,like giving Claire perry a job in Government.
But the way you defend labour day after day tim,you must get paid by them,you can tell me ;-)
There's not much evidence the UK is swinging to the right. England, or parts of it, might be; but Scotland and Wales show little sign of following suit.
That's an interesting detail, if it weren't for the fact that England comprises 85% of the UK by population.
Tedious, wilful stupidity. AGAIN. What's the f*cking point? Stop it.
You think London is swinging to the right, or the Tories have to put up a candidate who moves left to get elected?
Housing benefit cuts and caps are moving sofa bound benefit scroungers out of the capital.
The bedroom tax will do more to liberate London from socialism than the spitfire pilots achieved in the Battle of Britain.
I am wondering if Cetishwayo who led troops in the Anglo Zulu war would count (1879) or perhaps Ibn Saud, but am not sure how much actual fighting he did.
There's not much evidence the UK is swinging to the right. England, or parts of it, might be; but Scotland and Wales show little sign of following suit.
That's an interesting detail, if it weren't for the fact that England comprises 85% of the UK by population.
Tedious, wilful stupidity. AGAIN. What's the f*cking point? Stop it.
No wilful stupidity at all. I did not get your point. Now you have clarified I do. I'd say the misunderstanding was down to a lack of precision in your use of language. But if you want to believe it's because I'm stupid so be it. Maybe I am. If so, I am also exceptionally lucky!
FoxinsoxUK/AsisJohnstone - George II last British monarch, Napoleon certainly led his troops later, although the last incident I can find is the Battle of Sedan in 1870 when Prussian King Wilhelm I accompanied his troops in their victory over the French army of Napoleon III, who also accompanied his troops and was captured http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Sedan_(1870)
I am wondering if Cetishwayo who led troops in the Anglo Zulu war would count (1879) or perhaps Ibn Saud, but am not sure how much actual fighting he did.
FoxinSoxUK - George II was also the last monarch to lead his troops into battle at the battle of Dettingen!
Napoleon at Waterloo is an obvious starting point.
My My
From 2003
Bhutan has launched a military campaign against thousands of Indian rebels who have been sheltering in the Himalayan kingdom for more than a decade.
King Jigme Singye Wangchuk has led his troops into battle in the first military conflict fought by the small nation since the British left the subcontinent more than half a century ago.
FoxinsoxUK/AsisJohnstone - George II last British monarch, Napoleon certainly led his troops later, although the last incident I can find is the Battle of Sedan in 1870 when Prussian King Wilhelm I accompanied his troops in their victory over the French army of Napoleon III, who also accompanied his troops and was captured http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Sedan_(1870)
If Napoleon is permitted so too surely is the Mahdi ( Khartoum 1885).
Their opposition to AV may well turn out to be one of the stupidest moves in modern British politics.
Oh, I don't think so. Choosing Gordon Brown as leader must be number one by a country mile, failing to call an election in early 2009 when Labour could have won a majority number two, and Labour choosing Ed Miliband as leader number three. Of course the full disaster of the last of those won't be be completely obvious unless and until he actually becomes PM. As I've said before, I remain astonished that Labour supporters aren't terrified of that risk, although I imagine experienced senior Labour politicians aren't fooling themselves.
Yep, I'd say the Tory opposition to AV may well tun out to be as self-defeating as all of that. And from a Tory perspective even worse. Labour choosing Brown, then failing to call an early election helped put Dave in Downing Street. So that must get a blue tick. Opposing AV could well see him being turfed out again, despite the very real possibility of the Tory/UKIP vote being way higher than the Labour one.
I am wondering if Cetishwayo who led troops in the Anglo Zulu war would count (1879) or perhaps Ibn Saud, but am not sure how much actual fighting he did.
FoxinSoxUK - George II was also the last monarch to lead his troops into battle at the battle of Dettingen!
Napoleon at Waterloo is an obvious starting point.
My My
From 2003
Bhutan has launched a military campaign against thousands of Indian rebels who have been sheltering in the Himalayan kingdom for more than a decade.
King Jigme Singye Wangchuk has led his troops into battle in the first military conflict fought by the small nation since the British left the subcontinent more than half a century ago.
There's not much evidence the UK is swinging to the right. England, or parts of it, might be; but Scotland and Wales show little sign of following suit.
That's an interesting detail, if it weren't for the fact that England comprises 85% of the UK by population.
Tedious, wilful stupidity. AGAIN. What's the f*cking point? Stop it.
You think London is swinging to the right, or the Tories have to put up a candidate who moves left to get elected?
Housing benefit cuts and caps are moving sofa bound benefit scroungers out of the capital.
The bedroom tax will do more to liberate London from socialism than the spitfire pilots achieved in the Battle of Britain.
Aren't all those Tory councils near the white cliffs of Dover going to object to London being cleansed and dumped in their back yard while George's mortgage subsidies pay for nice Romanian familes to get on the housing ladder in the capital?
Nice Romanian families sharing equity in their house purchase with the government will be voting Tory. They will remember the 'council houses' built by Ceaucescu in Bucharest.
The white cliffs of Dover have been colonised by kippers. The coast is lost to both Labour and Tories. The relocation from London is Cameron's punishment for their mutiny.
I am wondering if Cetishwayo who led troops in the Anglo Zulu war would count (1879) or perhaps Ibn Saud, but am not sure how much actual fighting he did.
FoxinSoxUK - George II was also the last monarch to lead his troops into battle at the battle of Dettingen!
Napoleon at Waterloo is an obvious starting point.
My My
From 2003
Bhutan has launched a military campaign against thousands of Indian rebels who have been sheltering in the Himalayan kingdom for more than a decade.
King Jigme Singye Wangchuk has led his troops into battle in the first military conflict fought by the small nation since the British left the subcontinent more than half a century ago.
AsJohnstone - If the Tories get 42/43% of the vote they will either have a majority or be very close to it no matter how the votes pile up in their safe seats
I am wondering if Cetishwayo who led troops in the Anglo Zulu war would count (1879) or perhaps Ibn Saud, but am not sure how much actual fighting he did.
FoxinSoxUK - George II was also the last monarch to lead his troops into battle at the battle of Dettingen!
Napoleon at Waterloo is an obvious starting point.
My My
From 2003
Bhutan has launched a military campaign against thousands of Indian rebels who have been sheltering in the Himalayan kingdom for more than a decade.
King Jigme Singye Wangchuk has led his troops into battle in the first military conflict fought by the small nation since the British left the subcontinent more than half a century ago.
Spanish press reporting 50 dead, 100 injured. No indication of terrorism at this stage. It seems to be an horrific accident. Given the economy you have to hope it was not caused by money-saving short-cuts or procedural relaxations.
SeanT - Agree in general, but they are not really libertarian, more centre/centre-right on economics, and liberal on social issues (though they do not yet support full legalisation of drugs and there is some evidence they are concerned about abortion, while remaining pro-choice). While the odd poll has shown the Tories leading with Gen Y, most still show Labour ahead with the age group, but someone like Boris would clearly make big gains
Tim - No, but Hague and Pickles could do, and Ed M, Balls and Harman are hardly white van man's wet dream either. As I said, Cameron to win but with a majority of about 8, so still less than Thatcher and Major got!
Tim - No, but Hague and Pickles could do, and Ed M, Balls and Harman are hardly white van man's wet dream either. As I said, Cameron to win but with a majority of about 8, so still less than Thatcher and Major got!
So Cam gets a majority of 8, then what the hell happens?
I'm sure Cam would much, much sooner have a coalition with the Lib-Dems than a Con majority of 8! :O
GIN1138 - He remains the PM until the Euro referendum, where he also narrowly scrapes a win, about 52%-48%, then steps down and Chuka Umunna wins a clear victory over George Osborne/David Davis in 2020
GIN1138 - He remains the PM until the Euro referendum, where he also narrowly scrapes a win, about 52%-48%, then steps down and Chuka Umunna wins a clear victory over George Osborne/David Davis in 2020
GIN1138 - He got back to the Commons only to find Cameron re-elected, ran for a third time as Mayor, but lost a close election to Alan Sugar, who ran as a surprise independent candidate
In the aftermath of The Great Retreat and the loss of the Kingdom of Poland, Nicholas assumed the role of commander-in-chief after dismissing his cousin, Nikolay Nikolayevich, in September 1915.
That is remarkable. No non-english soccer team - Real, Barca, Bayern, however brilliant - could get that kind of emotional support abroad. Anywhere.
I see a parallel here: between the global interest in the English royal family and global interest in English soccer. Absent a vibrant local tradition, people adopt the English tradition as their own - because of language and accessibility, and clever branding - thus the English/British loom larger than they should.
Hmm. Blog ahoy?
In Australia they are going to be almost all emigrants or the children of emigrants. Ditto in the US and Canada.
Tim is spot on about Celtic. They'd get a huge turnout in any diaspora country, as well as Ireland.
Fluffy - Indeed, did think about Nicholas II but could not find a specific example, thanks also for the info about King Albert. so thanks for that and to AsJohnstone for the sad tale of Maximilian of Mexico, knew he was killed, not that he led his troops in battle
That is remarkable. No non-english soccer team - Real, Barca, Bayern, however brilliant - could get that kind of emotional support abroad. Anywhere.
I see a parallel here: between the global interest in the English royal family and global interest in English soccer. Absent a vibrant local tradition, people adopt the English tradition as their own - because of language and accessibility, and clever branding - thus the English/British loom larger than they should.
Hmm. Blog ahoy?
In Australia they are going to be almost all emigrants or the children of emigrants. Ditto in the US and Canada.
Tim is spot on about Celtic. They'd get a huge turnout in any diaspora country, as well as Ireland.
Man Utd , Citeh or Liverpool would draw a bigger crowd in Dublin or any Usa city - fact.
Some of the Istanbul teams would get a huge turnout in German cities; and Barcelona would sell-out and more in Perpignan. The difference with English clubs, Rangers and Celtic is that so many of them have huge and long-standing foreign fan bases. You can leave a lot behind when you emigrate, but not your football team.
That is remarkable. No non-english soccer team - Real, Barca, Bayern, however brilliant - could get that kind of emotional support abroad. Anywhere.
I see a parallel here: between the global interest in the English royal family and global interest in English soccer. Absent a vibrant local tradition, people adopt the English tradition as their own - because of language and accessibility, and clever branding - thus the English/British loom larger than they should.
Hmm. Blog ahoy?
In Australia they are going to be almost all emigrants or the children of emigrants. Ditto in the US and Canada.
Tim is spot on about Celtic. They'd get a huge turnout in any diaspora country, as well as Ireland.
lol. Again. Liverpool got 83,000, a few days before, doing exactly the same in, er, Jakarta, Indonesia, that well known home of British emigres.
You are the most wearying kind of moron. Shut the F up, you ridiculous, 30 watt halfwit.
To equate Liverpool's support in Oz with its support in Indonesia is to reveal your profound ignorance. But if you want to make a complete fool of yourself, blog away. Celtic would get a huge crowd in Melbourne. No-one in Jakarta would give a toss about them.
That is remarkable. No non-english soccer team - Real, Barca, Bayern, however brilliant - could get that kind of emotional support abroad. Anywhere.
I see a parallel here: between the global interest in the English royal family and global interest in English soccer. Absent a vibrant local tradition, people adopt the English tradition as their own - because of language and accessibility, and clever branding - thus the English/British loom larger than they should.
Hmm. Blog ahoy?
In Australia they are going to be almost all emigrants or the children of emigrants. Ditto in the US and Canada.
Tim is spot on about Celtic. They'd get a huge turnout in any diaspora country, as well as Ireland.
Man Utd , Citeh or Liverpool would draw a bigger crowd in Dublin or any Usa city - fact.
The fact that you put City in with those two shows you know little about support for English clubs abroad. Spurs and Arsenal are both bigger.
Steady on GIN, that kind of figure would likely send C4 News team into a tailspin as it would make it harder to cover the news tomorrow with a nonchalant but its not really good news angle. If it reaches that figure, they may have to hail the UK shopper and George Osborne miracle workers after their negative excuses last night when they used them as a negative excuse to try and explain steller GDP figure expected tomorrow.
I think Southam, your observation that "Barcelona would sell out, AND MORE, in Perpignan" is going to go down as one of my favourite ever sentences on pb. Simultaneously geeky, querulous, absurd, effeminate and flailing.
It's the "AND MORE" that clinches it.
Goodnight.
A poor effort Sean. Sleep well. And take Tim's advice afore ye blog. There is a very big difference between support for English clubs and the Old Firm in the old commonwealth and the US, and for English clubs in those parts of Asia where the British and Irish did not settle in great numbers. Not in numbers, perhaps, but in longevity and sentiment.
I think Southam, your observation that "Barcelona would sell out, AND MORE, in Perpignan" is going to go down as one of my favourite ever sentences on pb. Simultaneously geeky, querulous, absurd, effeminate and flailing.
It's the "AND MORE" that clinches it.
Goodnight.
A poor effort Sean. Sleep well. And take Tim's advice afore ye blog. There is a very big difference between support for English clubs and the Old Firm in the old commonwealth and the US, and for English clubs in those parts of Asia where the British and Irish did not settle in great numbers. Not in numbers, perhaps, but in longevity and sentiment.
"Afore ye blog"
AFORE YE BLOG?
oh. help. lol.
Methinks you are humiliated. Verily.
And if thinking that makes you feel good I rejoice. You've made a bit of a cock of yourself tonight, but it doesn't matter really. It's only an internet message board.
I think Southam, your observation that "Barcelona would sell out, AND MORE, in Perpignan" is going to go down as one of my favourite ever sentences on pb. Simultaneously geeky, querulous, absurd, effeminate and flailing.
It's the "AND MORE" that clinches it.
Goodnight.
A poor effort Sean. Sleep well. And take Tim's advice afore ye blog. There is a very big difference between support for English clubs and the Old Firm in the old commonwealth and the US, and for English clubs in those parts of Asia where the British and Irish did not settle in great numbers. Not in numbers, perhaps, but in longevity and sentiment.
Agreed; In south east asia recently I saw a guy wearing a Man City top; I shrugged. Then I noticed that he had the Real Madrid club crest tattoo'd to his calf.
Odd thing about the commentaries in the Telegraph etc. is that they're implying a falling Labour vote share, but that's not what's happening - what we're seeing is a recovery in the Tory share to GE levels, with no impact at all on the Labour vote. Not too worried yet!
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But the way you defend labour day after day tim,you must get paid by them,you can tell me ;-)
/pedant
The bedroom tax will do more to liberate London from socialism than the spitfire pilots achieved in the Battle of Britain.
FoxinsoxUK/AsisJohnstone - George II last British monarch, Napoleon certainly led his troops later, although the last incident I can find is the Battle of Sedan in 1870 when Prussian King Wilhelm I accompanied his troops in their victory over the French army of Napoleon III, who also accompanied his troops and was captured
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Sedan_(1870)
Bhutan has launched a military campaign against thousands of Indian rebels who have been sheltering in the Himalayan kingdom for more than a decade.
King Jigme Singye Wangchuk has led his troops into battle in the first military conflict fought by the small nation since the British left the subcontinent more than half a century ago.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/dec/20/randeepramesh
http://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/48238/last-king-in-battle
The SWIFTIndex is 'nowcasting' 0.7%. SWIFT got Q1 right: the consensus of forecasters didn't.
0.5% - 0.8% is the range.
Ed Balls Warns ‘Most Families Not Seeing Living Standards Recovery' Despite GDP Growth
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/07/24/ed-balls-gdp-q2_n_3643444.html?1374667694
The white cliffs of Dover have been colonised by kippers. The coast is lost to both Labour and Tories. The relocation from London is Cameron's punishment for their mutiny.
Wow! 95,000 Aussie Liverpool fans sing You'll Never Walk Alone at the MCG
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbqAqVSbdzs&feature=youtu.be
This fantastic July will hopefully take Q3 over 1% (assuming the whole country hasn't died in the sun)
I'm sure Cam would much, much sooner have a coalition with the Lib-Dems than a Con majority of 8! :O
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFN8Wj37WYI&
IIRC, Nicholas II was still commanding his armies up unti the Spring Revolution. History, how much we have to learn hey...?
Tim is spot on about Celtic. They'd get a huge turnout in any diaspora country, as well as Ireland.
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londoners-diary/will-william-and-kate-call-for-the-rabbi-8728367.html?origin=internalSearch
Barca seem to be particularly popular in arab countries.