This is next level incompetence from Jeremy Corbyn. If he were really adopting Trumpian tactics he would have junked his relaunch and spent the day tweeting and ranting about the NHS. Not going through fresh iterations of far left economic fantasies and muddled words on immigration with each passing hour.
Just imagine a six week long general election campaign and we get this every day.
Soon Shadsy will be offering odds on Labour polling sub 10%
Naughty but Tory propaganda!
The point is, ladies and gentlemen, that Jezza, for lack of a better word, is good. Jezza is right, Jezza works. Jezza clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the (R)evolutionary spirit. Jezza, in all of his forms; Jezza for life, for money, for love, knowledge has marked the upward surge of mankind. And Jezza, you mark my words, will not only save the Labour Party, but that other malfunctioning corporation called the UK! Thank you very much.
huzzah!
Comrades, this is your Leader. It is an honour to speak to you today, and I am honoured to be sailing with you on the maiden voyage of our motherland's most recent achievement. Once more, we play our dangerous game, a game of chess against our old adversary — The Conservative Party! For a hundred years, your fathers before you and your older brothers played this game and played it well. But today the game is different. We have the advantage! It reminds me of the heady days of 1945 and Clement Attlee when the world trembled at the sound of our Nationalisations. Well, they will tremble again — at the sound of our Immigration Policy. The order is: engage the Corbyn Drive!
Comrades, our own Parliamentary Labour Party don't know our full potential. They will do everything possible to test us; but they will only test their own embarrassment! We will leave our fleet behind, we will pass through the Conservative patrols, past their sonar nets, and lay off their largest constituency, and listen to their braying and tittering... while we conduct Austerity Debates. Then, and when we are finished, the only sound they will hear is our laughter, while we sail to Brighton, where the sun is warm, and so is the comradeship.
This is next level incompetence from Jeremy Corbyn. If he were really adopting Trumpian tactics he would have junked his relaunch and spent the day tweeting and ranting about the NHS. Not going through fresh iterations of far left economic fantasies and muddled words on immigration with each passing hour.
In the space of a day, Corbyn has done the following: 1. Rather than postponing a relaunch, he's thrown a dead cat at himself - much as Labour does need to broaden its agenda beyond the NHS, now was not the time, just as the Government had grounded on the rocks. 2. He's done the rounds in the morning of a major speech billed as changing direction on immigration to such effect that the headlines generated by lunchtime were along the lines of him not changing tack and not wanting to reduce immigration. 3. He's chosen this of all times to float as well a vague policy of a salary cap initially on the sofa thus inviting his opponents to define it for him in order to ridicule it.
Whatever you stand on the political spectrum, this is indeed next level incompetence.
Just watch as people who called something very wrong for 40 odd years slowly try and worm their way out of it.. without admitting they were wrong the whole time
Akin to ripping a strong plaster very slowly off a hairy leg.. so painful for them!!
This is next level incompetence from Jeremy Corbyn. If he were really adopting Trumpian tactics he would have junked his relaunch and spent the day tweeting and ranting about the NHS. Not going through fresh iterations of far left economic fantasies and muddled words on immigration with each passing hour.
In the space of a day, Corbyn has done the following: 1. Rather than postponing a relaunch, he's thrown a dead cat at himself - much as Labour does need to broaden its agenda beyond the NHS, now was not the time, just as the Government had grounded on the rocks. 2. He's done the rounds in the morning of a major speech billed as changing direction on immigration to such effect that the headlines generated by lunchtime were along the lines of him not changing tack and not wanting to reduce immigration. 3. He's chosen this of all times to float as well a vague policy of a salary cap initially on the sofa thus inviting his opponents to define it for him in order to ridicule it.
Whatever you stand on the political spectrum, this is indeed next level incompetence.
You know you are dealing with a special kind of stupid when both Owen Jones and Polly sound sensible.
This is next level incompetence from Jeremy Corbyn. If he were really adopting Trumpian tactics he would have junked his relaunch and spent the day tweeting and ranting about the NHS. Not going through fresh iterations of far left economic fantasies and muddled words on immigration with each passing hour.
Just imagine a six week long general election campaign and we get this every day.
Soon Shadsy will be offering odds on Labour polling sub 10%
Naughty but Tory propaganda!
The point is, ladies and gentlemen, that Jezza, for lack of a better word, is good. Jezza is right, Jezza works. Jezza clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the (R)evolutionary spirit. Jezza, in all of his forms; Jezza for life, for money, for love, knowledge has marked the upward surge of mankind. And Jezza, you mark my words, will not only save the Labour Party, but that other malfunctioning corporation called the UK! Thank you very much.
huzzah!
Comrades, this is your Leader. It is an honour to speak to you today, and I am honoured to be sailing with you on the maiden voyage of our motherland's most recent achievement. Once more, we play our dangerous game, a game of chess against our old adversary — The Conservative Party! For a hundred years, your fathers before you and your older brothers played this game and played it well. But today the game is different. We have the advantage! It reminds me of the heady days of 1945 and Clement Attlee when the world trembled at the sound of our Nationalisations. Well, they will tremble again — at the sound of our Immigration Policy. The order is: engage the Corbyn Drive!
Comrades, our own Parliamentary Labour Party don't know our full potential. They will do everything possible to test us; but they will only test their own embarrassment! We will leave our fleet behind, we will pass through the Conservative patrols, past their sonar nets, and lay off their largest constituency, and listen to their braying and tittering... while we conduct Austerity Debates. Then, and when we are finished, the only sound they will hear is our laughter, while we sail to Brighton, where the sun is warm, and so is the comradeship.
A great day, comrades. We sail into history!
Could this be the soul of Good Queen Bess incarnate?
This is next level incompetence from Jeremy Corbyn. If he were really adopting Trumpian tactics he would have junked his relaunch and spent the day tweeting and ranting about the NHS. Not going through fresh iterations of far left economic fantasies and muddled words on immigration with each passing hour.
In the space of a day, Corbyn has done the following: 1. Rather than postponing a relaunch, he's thrown a dead cat at himself - much as Labour does need to broaden its agenda beyond the NHS, now was not the time, just as the Government had grounded on the rocks. 2. He's done the rounds in the morning of a major speech billed as changing direction on immigration to such effect that the headlines generated by lunchtime were along the lines of him not changing tack and not wanting to reduce immigration. 3. He's chosen this of all times to float as well a vague policy of a salary cap initially on the sofa thus inviting his opponents to define it for him in order to ridicule it.
Whatever you stand on the political spectrum, this is indeed next level incompetence.
This is next level incompetence from Jeremy Corbyn. If he were really adopting Trumpian tactics he would have junked his relaunch and spent the day tweeting and ranting about the NHS. Not going through fresh iterations of far left economic fantasies and muddled words on immigration with each passing hour.
In the space of a day, Corbyn has done the following: 1. Rather than postponing a relaunch, he's thrown a dead cat at himself - much as Labour does need to broaden its agenda beyond the NHS, now was not the time, just as the Government had grounded on the rocks. 2. He's done the rounds in the morning of a major speech billed as changing direction on immigration to such effect that the headlines generated by lunchtime were along the lines of him not changing tack and not wanting to reduce immigration. 3. He's chosen this of all times to float as well a vague policy of a salary cap initially on the sofa thus inviting his opponents to define it for him in order to ridicule it.
Whatever you stand on the political spectrum, this is indeed next level incompetence.
You know you are dealing with a special kind of stupid when both Owen Jones and Polly sound sensible.
Good article Lucian. You have managed to clear the fog and explain the unexplainable....
Talking of which are there any Labour loyalist posters around- Nick BJO Justin etc-who could give a logical explanation for Corbyn's behaviour today. He's sounded completely incoherent and incompetent.
He's naturally being ridiculed on here by those who don't support him but could someone explain why they're wrong?
Mr. T, he might have suffered some sort of accident. There have been a few cases, especially in York, of people drowning in rivers due to accidentally falling in or drunkenly trying to swim them.
@Tony_McNulty: Might watch Man Utd tonight. I am not wedded to it as a point of principle but, and I don't want to be misinterpreted, haven't ruled it out
I don't believe he was kidnapped by ISIS. There'd be some terrible video online, by now.
But how can a man just disappear?
I must say when I read that story the other day, I thought he had probably died from alcohol overdose/fell into a river pissed/fell asleep in a field and the combine harvester got him... all a bit Midsomer!
Terrorists would have been shouting about it from the hilltops wouldn't they? Its the only reason they target army/police
@faisalislam: Asked Corbyn why he just spent day shooting from the hip on major policies. "No, I don't do that", he said maximum pay ratios "part of plan"
I don't believe he was kidnapped by ISIS. There'd be some terrible video online, by now.
But how can a man just disappear?
I must say when I read that story the other day, I thought he had probably died from alcohol overdose/fell into a river pissed/fell asleep in a field and the combine harvester got him... all a bit Midsomer!
Terrorists would have been shouting about it from the hilltops wouldn't they? Its the only reason they target army/police
Yes, and he was very drunk. So an accident is likely. But no body, no blood, nothing in the rivers (they've been searched, endlessly). Now a bit of his phone turns up, maybe?
@Tony_McNulty: Might watch Man Utd tonight. I am not wedded to it as a point of principle but, and I don't want to be misinterpreted, haven't ruled it out
PB has someone else who assures us he isn't a fan .....
I don't believe he was kidnapped by ISIS. There'd be some terrible video online, by now.
But how can a man just disappear?
I must say when I read that story the other day, I thought he had probably died from alcohol overdose/fell into a river pissed/fell asleep in a field and the combine harvester got him... all a bit Midsomer!
Terrorists would have been shouting about it from the hilltops wouldn't they? Its the only reason they target army/police
Mr. T, he might have suffered some sort of accident. There have been a few cases, especially in York, of people drowning in rivers due to accidentally falling in or drunkenly trying to swim them.
The questions are how he got to Barton Mills from Bury St Edmunds, and why. I can't remember if they've said the mobile signal was moving fast, slow or was just intermittent. If he travelled by car, and no-one's come forward, that makes it a little more suspicious.
The River Lark in that area isn't particularly wide or fast-flowing, at least from memory. However there are loads of drainage channels and a few lakes.
I don't believe he was kidnapped by ISIS. There'd be some terrible video online, by now.
But how can a man just disappear?
I must say when I read that story the other day, I thought he had probably died from alcohol overdose/fell into a river pissed/fell asleep in a field and the combine harvester got him... all a bit Midsomer!
Terrorists would have been shouting about it from the hilltops wouldn't they? Its the only reason they target army/police
Yes, and he was very drunk. So an accident is likely. But no body, no blood, nothing in the rivers (they've been searched, endlessly). Now a bit of his phone turns up, maybe?
By the way, did you see the David Bowie link I posted earlier? He posted on his own fan forums and his answer to a poster that was on shown on twitter was right out of your repertoire!
Just watch as people who called something very wrong for 40 odd years slowly try and worm their way out of it.. without admitting they were wrong the whole time
Akin to ripping a strong plaster very slowly off a hairy leg.. so painful for them!!
Even if Guido was OK -which he isn't -who are the people who post on his site? Is there a central casting for posting morons?
I don't believe he was kidnapped by ISIS. There'd be some terrible video online, by now.
But how can a man just disappear?
I must say when I read that story the other day, I thought he had probably died from alcohol overdose/fell into a river pissed/fell asleep in a field and the combine harvester got him... all a bit Midsomer!
Terrorists would have been shouting about it from the hilltops wouldn't they? Its the only reason they target army/police
Yes, and he was very drunk. So an accident is likely. But no body, no blood, nothing in the rivers (they've been searched, endlessly). Now a bit of his phone turns up, maybe?
By the way, did you see the David Bowie link I posted earlier? He posted on his own fan forums and his answer to a poster that was on shown on twitter was right out of your repertoire!
I saw somewhere that it was a fake, assume it was the chef one. Or did I imagine that.
Mr. T, he might have suffered some sort of accident. There have been a few cases, especially in York, of people drowning in rivers due to accidentally falling in or drunkenly trying to swim them.
The questions are how he got to Barton Mills from Bury St Edmunds, and why. I can't remember if they've said the mobile signal was moving fast, slow or was just intermittent. If he travelled by car, and no-one's come forward, that makes it a little more suspicious.
The River Lark in that area isn't particularly wide or fast-flowing, at least from memory. However there are loads of drainage channels and a few lakes.
He was last seen, IIRC, close to a big bin store. It's not unknown for people to sleep in rubbish bins, and, again IIRC, the bins were cleared the next day. The phone wasn't far away from the place where they were taken.
I don't believe he was kidnapped by ISIS. There'd be some terrible video online, by now.
But how can a man just disappear?
I must say when I read that story the other day, I thought he had probably died from alcohol overdose/fell into a river pissed/fell asleep in a field and the combine harvester got him... all a bit Midsomer!
Terrorists would have been shouting about it from the hilltops wouldn't they? Its the only reason they target army/police
Yes, and he was very drunk. So an accident is likely. But no body, no blood, nothing in the rivers (they've been searched, endlessly). Now a bit of his phone turns up, maybe?
By the way, did you see the David Bowie link I posted earlier? He posted on his own fan forums and his answer to a poster that was on shown on twitter was right out of your repertoire!
I saw somewhere that it was a fake, assume it was the chef one
This was it.. actually some are saying its fake, others are saying its real. Let the myth live! Maybe it actually was @SeanT!??
Mr. T, he might have suffered some sort of accident. There have been a few cases, especially in York, of people drowning in rivers due to accidentally falling in or drunkenly trying to swim them.
The questions are how he got to Barton Mills from Bury St Edmunds, and why. I can't remember if they've said the mobile signal was moving fast, slow or was just intermittent. If he travelled by car, and no-one's come forward, that makes it a little more suspicious.
The River Lark in that area isn't particularly wide or fast-flowing, at least from memory. However there are loads of drainage channels and a few lakes.
Mr. T, he might have suffered some sort of accident. There have been a few cases, especially in York, of people drowning in rivers due to accidentally falling in or drunkenly trying to swim them.
The questions are how he got to Barton Mills from Bury St Edmunds, and why. I can't remember if they've said the mobile signal was moving fast, slow or was just intermittent. If he travelled by car, and no-one's come forward, that makes it a little more suspicious.
The River Lark in that area isn't particularly wide or fast-flowing, at least from memory. However there are loads of drainage channels and a few lakes.
Mr. T, he might have suffered some sort of accident. There have been a few cases, especially in York, of people drowning in rivers due to accidentally falling in or drunkenly trying to swim them.
The questions are how he got to Barton Mills from Bury St Edmunds, and why. I can't remember if they've said the mobile signal was moving fast, slow or was just intermittent. If he travelled by car, and no-one's come forward, that makes it a little more suspicious.
The River Lark in that area isn't particularly wide or fast-flowing, at least from memory. However there are loads of drainage channels and a few lakes.
Mr. T, he might have suffered some sort of accident. There have been a few cases, especially in York, of people drowning in rivers due to accidentally falling in or drunkenly trying to swim them.
The questions are how he got to Barton Mills from Bury St Edmunds, and why. I can't remember if they've said the mobile signal was moving fast, slow or was just intermittent. If he travelled by car, and no-one's come forward, that makes it a little more suspicious.
The River Lark in that area isn't particularly wide or fast-flowing, at least from memory. However there are loads of drainage channels and a few lakes.
Mr. T, he might have suffered some sort of accident. There have been a few cases, especially in York, of people drowning in rivers due to accidentally falling in or drunkenly trying to swim them.
The questions are how he got to Barton Mills from Bury St Edmunds, and why. I can't remember if they've said the mobile signal was moving fast, slow or was just intermittent. If he travelled by car, and no-one's come forward, that makes it a little more suspicious.
The River Lark in that area isn't particularly wide or fast-flowing, at least from memory. However there are loads of drainage channels and a few lakes.
@JeremyCliffe: Corbyn is the appendix of Labour politics: remnant of a herbivorous past ignored in good times, yet capable of sending the body into sepsis.
Mr. T, he might have suffered some sort of accident. There have been a few cases, especially in York, of people drowning in rivers due to accidentally falling in or drunkenly trying to swim them.
The questions are how he got to Barton Mills from Bury St Edmunds, and why. I can't remember if they've said the mobile signal was moving fast, slow or was just intermittent. If he travelled by car, and no-one's come forward, that makes it a little more suspicious.
The River Lark in that area isn't particularly wide or fast-flowing, at least from memory. However there are loads of drainage channels and a few lakes.
Mr. T, he might have suffered some sort of accident. There have been a few cases, especially in York, of people drowning in rivers due to accidentally falling in or drunkenly trying to swim them.
The questions are how he got to Barton Mills from Bury St Edmunds, and why. I can't remember if they've said the mobile signal was moving fast, slow or was just intermittent. If he travelled by car, and no-one's come forward, that makes it a little more suspicious.
The River Lark in that area isn't particularly wide or fast-flowing, at least from memory. However there are loads of drainage channels and a few lakes.
If it wasn't an accident, my suspicion is a gay murder....
Surely they would have seen anyone else also enter the bin area. Sounds like he ended up in a bin unfortunately , just had one too many.
He was apparently taken to a village which is near a wellknown gay cruising area. @SeanT's theory can't be ruled out.
There are also rumours floating around that he was bisexual. An assignation that somehow went wrong? Grindr?
If he'd been on Grindr the police would surely have known? If they could track where his phone was, they'd have been able to track what he'd been looking at on it, surely?
Mr. T, he might have suffered some sort of accident. There have been a few cases, especially in York, of people drowning in rivers due to accidentally falling in or drunkenly trying to swim them.
The questions are how he got to Barton Mills from Bury St Edmunds, and why. I can't remember if they've said the mobile signal was moving fast, slow or was just intermittent. If he travelled by car, and no-one's come forward, that makes it a little more suspicious.
The River Lark in that area isn't particularly wide or fast-flowing, at least from memory. However there are loads of drainage channels and a few lakes.
That place is not that far from me and looks interesting.
Cheers
Despite having walked right past it on two or three occasions, I've never actually been in. One of the places I'll take the little 'un when he's a little older.
Mr. T, he might have suffered some sort of accident. There have been a few cases, especially in York, of people drowning in rivers due to accidentally falling in or drunkenly trying to swim them.
The questions are how he got to Barton Mills from Bury St Edmunds, and why. I can't remember if they've said the mobile signal was moving fast, slow or was just intermittent. If he travelled by car, and no-one's come forward, that makes it a little more suspicious.
The River Lark in that area isn't particularly wide or fast-flowing, at least from memory. However there are loads of drainage channels and a few lakes.
If it wasn't an accident, my suspicion is a gay murder....
Surely they would have seen anyone else also enter the bin area. Sounds like he ended up in a bin unfortunately , just had one too many.
He was apparently taken to a village which is near a wellknown gay cruising area. @SeanT's theory can't be ruled out.
There are also rumours floating around that he was bisexual. An assignation that somehow went wrong? Grindr?
If he'd been on Grindr the police would surely have known? If they could track where his phone was, they'd have been able to track what he'd been looking at on it, surely?
Given the police incompetence in catching Stephen Port you can't rule much in or out at this point. Different force but could be the same underlying issues there.
Mr. T, he might have suffered some sort of accident. There have been a few cases, especially in York, of people drowning in rivers due to accidentally falling in or drunkenly trying to swim them.
The questions are how he got to Barton Mills from Bury St Edmunds, and why. I can't remember if they've said the mobile signal was moving fast, slow or was just intermittent. If he travelled by car, and no-one's come forward, that makes it a little more suspicious.
The River Lark in that area isn't particularly wide or fast-flowing, at least from memory. However there are loads of drainage channels and a few lakes.
If it wasn't an accident, my suspicion is a gay murder....
Surely they would have seen anyone else also enter the bin area. Sounds like he ended up in a bin unfortunately , just had one too many.
He was apparently taken to a village which is near a wellknown gay cruising area. @SeanT's theory can't be ruled out.
There are also rumours floating around that he was bisexual. An assignation that somehow went wrong? Grindr?
If he'd been on Grindr the police would surely have known? If they could track where his phone was, they'd have been able to track what he'd been looking at on it, surely?
Given the police incompetence in catching Stephen Port you can't rule much in or out at this point. Different force but could be the same underlying issues there.
The Stephen Port case is a national disgrace. If we had a decent opposition, the Met would have been torn a new one for the way in which it bungled that investigation. "Institutionalised homophobia" would seem to cover it nicely. Men needlessly died as a result.
Mr. T, he might have suffered some sort of accident. There have been a few cases, especially in York, of people drowning in rivers due to accidentally falling in or drunkenly trying to swim them.
The questions are how he got to Barton Mills from Bury St Edmunds, and why. I can't remember if they've said the mobile signal was moving fast, slow or was just intermittent. If he travelled by car, and no-one's come forward, that makes it a little more suspicious.
The River Lark in that area isn't particularly wide or fast-flowing, at least from memory. However there are loads of drainage channels and a few lakes.
If it wasn't an accident, my suspicion is a gay murder....
Surely they would have seen anyone else also enter the bin area. Sounds like he ended up in a bin unfortunately , just had one too many.
He was apparently taken to a village which is near a wellknown gay cruising area. @SeanT's theory can't be ruled out.
There are also rumours floating around that he was bisexual. An assignation that somehow went wrong? Grindr?
If he'd been on Grindr the police would surely have known? If they could track where his phone was, they'd have been able to track what he'd been looking at on it, surely?
I dunno. I guess.
I've just discovered an entire website dedicated to sleuthing these mysteries, with tens of thousands of comments on the Corrie case.
Their consensus seems to be either 1. he somehow fell in the lorry, then fell out later, concussed and confused, and wandered into a forest or a river and perished, or 2. the poor lad was abducted and killed, or 3. it was an assignation that went very wrong
Spooky and sad.
Yes, wandering into a vehicle and then wandering out of it again seems plausible. Bizarre and dangerous things can be done when very drunk. I knew someone who once woke up in an unknown spare bedroom, fled the house in panic and found he was round the corner from Shepherd's Bush tube. He could only guess that he'd missed the last train and pleaded with a total stranger to put him up for the night. A bit scary really.
I've just flicked on the BBC News. Despite all the hilarity here, Corbyn hasn't been mentioned so far -no I'm wrong it's third - one wonders if his inconsistency will really cut through.
Mr. Meeks, indeed. It's effectively the same thing in this case, but it could also be viewed as misandry. Female victims may well have garnered more of a police response.
Mr. T, he might have suffered some sort of accident. There have been a few cases, especially in York, of people drowning in rivers due to accidentally falling in or drunkenly trying to swim them.
The questions are how he got to Barton Mills from Bury St Edmunds, and why. I can't remember if they've said the mobile signal was moving fast, slow or was just intermittent. If he travelled by car, and no-one's come forward, that makes it a little more suspicious.
The River Lark in that area isn't particularly wide or fast-flowing, at least from memory. However there are loads of drainage channels and a few lakes.
If it wasn't an accident, my suspicion is a gay murder....
Surely they would have seen anyone else also enter the bin area. Sounds like he ended up in a bin unfortunately , just had one too many.
He was apparently taken to a village which is near a wellknown gay cruising area. @SeanT's theory can't be ruled out.
There are also rumours floating around that he was bisexual. An assignation that somehow went wrong? Grindr?
If he'd been on Grindr the police would surely have known? If they could track where his phone was, they'd have been able to track what he'd been looking at on it, surely?
I dunno. I guess.
I've just discovered an entire website dedicated to sleuthing these mysteries, with tens of thousands of comments on the Corrie case.
Their consensus seems to be either 1. he somehow fell in the lorry, then fell out later, concussed and confused, and wandered into a forest or a river and perished, or 2. the poor lad was abducted and killed, or 3. it was an assignation that went very wrong
Spooky and sad.
Yes, wandering into a vehicle and then wandering out of it again seems plausible. Bizarre and dangerous things can be done when very drunk. I knew someone who once woke up in an unknown spare bedroom, fled the house in panic and found he was round the corner from Shepherd's Bush tube. He could only guess that he'd missed the last train and pleaded with a total stranger to put him up for the night. A bit scary really.
Managed to read Dominic Cummings's 20,000-word epic today (quiet day in the office). As others have said, essential and fantastic reading, whatever side you were on.
"The "clock is ticking" on a Northern Ireland election following the resignation of Martin McGuinness, the Secretary of State has said."
Is he sure it is just a clock???
It is not just the other clock you might be referring to. There is another. MM's body-clock didn't look very well sprung either.
Like him or hate him, with the exception of Ian Paisley and Gerry Adams, he has been a towering controversial figure in Northern Ireland over half a century.
I've just flicked on the BBC News. Despite all the hilarity here, Corbyn hasn't been mentioned so far -no I'm wrong it's third - one wonders if his inconsistency will really cut through.
Maybe consider bringing back Livingstone from retirement ... Only a year older than Trump.
Mr. T, he might have suffered some sort of accident. There have been a few cases, especially in York, of people drowning in rivers due to accidentally falling in or drunkenly trying to swim them.
The questions are how he got to Barton Mills from Bury St Edmunds, and why. I can't remember if they've said the mobile signal was moving fast, slow or was just intermittent. If he travelled by car, and no-one's come forward, that makes it a little more suspicious.
The River Lark in that area isn't particularly wide or fast-flowing, at least from memory. However there are loads of drainage channels and a few lakes.
That place is not that far from me and looks interesting.
Cheers
Despite having walked right past it on two or three occasions, I've never actually been in. One of the places I'll take the little 'un when he's a little older.
Mr. T, he might have suffered some sort of accident. There have been a few cases, especially in York, of people drowning in rivers due to accidentally falling in or drunkenly trying to swim them.
The questions are how he got to Barton Mills from Bury St Edmunds, and why. I can't remember if they've said the mobile signal was moving fast, slow or was just intermittent. If he travelled by car, and no-one's come forward, that makes it a little more suspicious.
The River Lark in that area isn't particularly wide or fast-flowing, at least from memory. However there are loads of drainage channels and a few lakes.
That place is not that far from me and looks interesting.
Cheers
Despite having walked right past it on two or three occasions, I've never actually been in. One of the places I'll take the little 'un when he's a little older.
Mr. T, he might have suffered some sort of accident. There have been a few cases, especially in York, of people drowning in rivers due to accidentally falling in or drunkenly trying to swim them.
The questions are how he got to Barton Mills from Bury St Edmunds, and why. I can't remember if they've said the mobile signal was moving fast, slow or was just intermittent. If he travelled by car, and no-one's come forward, that makes it a little more suspicious.
The River Lark in that area isn't particularly wide or fast-flowing, at least from memory. However there are loads of drainage channels and a few lakes.
That place is not that far from me and looks interesting.
Cheers
Despite having walked right past it on two or three occasions, I've never actually been in. One of the places I'll take the little 'un when he's a little older.
If maximum wage ratio became law surely it would just lead to a huge increase in out-sourcing.
eg a top Premier League football club would just employ its footballers.
They would then outsource literally everything else - security, cleaning, catering, sales, ticketing, finance, HR - the lot.
They might even set up a separate company (or even club) for reserve players - if necessary.
Arsenal used to have a cunning scheme where players were technically paid very little. Instead they got shares in an overseas holding company which they would hold in their own companies.
Most of the foreign players paid basically hardly any tax.
Clive Lewis just said in C4 "we are not wedded to the free movement of capital". Hmm.
Maximum wage, limits on how much money you can take on your hols, have I woken up in the 1970s?
Quite. If they get anywhere near power get anything out of the country not bolted down or at least converted into foreign assets. It'll be Venezuela with cold weather.
Clive Lewis just said in C4 "we are not wedded to the free movement of capital". Hmm.
Probably misspoke. Or perhaps they're just going to run through the permutations on the Four Freedoms.
But the thing is - unless they did do something like exchange controls then everything else they want to do will just be got round.
eg with a maximum wage everyone will just be paid offshore etc.
But putting to one side how crazy it is, would it be possible in the world of the internet etc to actually impose exchange controls? I guess you would have to do something like making it a criminal offence to have a foreign bank account?
Clive Lewis just said in C4 "we are not wedded to the free movement of capital". Hmm.
Probably misspoke. Or perhaps they're just going to run through the permutations on the Four Freedoms.
But the thing is - unless they did do something like exchange controls then everything else they want to do will just be got round.
eg with a maximum wage everyone will just be paid offshore etc.
But putting to one side how crazy it is, would it be possible in the world of the internet etc to actually impose exchange controls? I guess you would have to do something like making it a criminal offence to have a foreign bank account?
I disagree. It's all possible. It's just that one ends up looking not a million miles away from the DDR.
Clive Lewis just said in C4 "we are not wedded to the free movement of capital". Hmm.
Probably misspoke. Or perhaps they're just going to run through the permutations on the Four Freedoms.
But the thing is - unless they did do something like exchange controls then everything else they want to do will just be got round.
eg with a maximum wage everyone will just be paid offshore etc.
But putting to one side how crazy it is, would it be possible in the world of the internet etc to actually impose exchange controls? I guess you would have to do something like making it a criminal offence to have a foreign bank account?
I disagree. It's all possible. It's just that one ends up looking not a million miles away from the DDR.
That's what I meant - wouldn't the DDR have had exactly that type of law - ie that you couldn't own a foreign bank account?
Clive Lewis just said in C4 "we are not wedded to the free movement of capital". Hmm.
Probably misspoke. Or perhaps they're just going to run through the permutations on the Four Freedoms.
But the thing is - unless they did do something like exchange controls then everything else they want to do will just be got round.
eg with a maximum wage everyone will just be paid offshore etc.
But putting to one side how crazy it is, would it be possible in the world of the internet etc to actually impose exchange controls? I guess you would have to do something like making it a criminal offence to have a foreign bank account?
I disagree. It's all possible. It's just that one ends up looking not a million miles away from the DDR.
That's what I meant - wouldn't the DDR have had exactly that type of law - ie that you couldn't own a foreign bank account?
If maximum wage ratio became law surely it would just lead to a huge increase in out-sourcing.
eg a top Premier League football club would just employ its footballers.
They would then outsource literally everything else - security, cleaning, catering, sales, ticketing, finance, HR - the lot.
They might even set up a separate company (or even club) for reserve players - if necessary.
Arsenal used to have a cunning scheme where players were technically paid very little. Instead they got shares in an overseas holding company which they would hold in their own companies.
Most of the foreign players paid basically hardly any tax.
I hope the scheme was registered with HMRC, else its evasion. As is the substance is avoidance.
Clive Lewis just said in C4 "we are not wedded to the free movement of capital". Hmm.
Probably misspoke. Or perhaps they're just going to run through the permutations on the Four Freedoms.
But the thing is - unless they did do something like exchange controls then everything else they want to do will just be got round.
eg with a maximum wage everyone will just be paid offshore etc.
But putting to one side how crazy it is, would it be possible in the world of the internet etc to actually impose exchange controls? I guess you would have to do something like making it a criminal offence to have a foreign bank account?
I disagree. It's all possible. It's just that one ends up looking not a million miles away from the DDR.
That's what I meant - wouldn't the DDR have had exactly that type of law - ie that you couldn't own a foreign bank account?
As well as a wall to stop anyone leaving, etc.
Great for motorbike tours though apparently.
Talking of which, if you want the closest thing to that experience in modern Europe, Belarus is introducing visa free travel for short visits.
Clive Lewis just said in C4 "we are not wedded to the free movement of capital". Hmm.
Probably misspoke. Or perhaps they're just going to run through the permutations on the Four Freedoms.
But the thing is - unless they did do something like exchange controls then everything else they want to do will just be got round.
eg with a maximum wage everyone will just be paid offshore etc.
But putting to one side how crazy it is, would it be possible in the world of the internet etc to actually impose exchange controls? I guess you would have to do something like making it a criminal offence to have a foreign bank account?
I disagree. It's all possible. It's just that one ends up looking not a million miles away from the DDR.
That's what I meant - wouldn't the DDR have had exactly that type of law - ie that you couldn't own a foreign bank account?
As well as a wall to stop anyone leaving, etc.
Great for motorbike tours though apparently.
Talking of which, if you want the closest thing to that experience in modern Europe, Belarus is introducing visa free travel for short visits.
"Ever since he became their leader, Labour MPs have been at war with Jeremy Corbyn. In the past 24 hours, however, the conflict has taken an unexpected twist.
Now, it seems, Jeremy Corbyn is at war with himself."
If maximum wage ratio became law surely it would just lead to a huge increase in out-sourcing.
eg a top Premier League football club would just employ its footballers.
They would then outsource literally everything else - security, cleaning, catering, sales, ticketing, finance, HR - the lot.
They might even set up a separate company (or even club) for reserve players - if necessary.
Arsenal used to have a cunning scheme where players were technically paid very little. Instead they got shares in an overseas holding company which they would hold in their own companies.
Most of the foreign players paid basically hardly any tax.
I hope the scheme was registered with HMRC, else its evasion. As is the substance is avoidance.
It was revealed as part of Ray Parlour divorce settlement. I presume they don't operate the scheme any more.
Corbyn's limit on wages was featured on "The One Show." A Vox Pop pointed out the illogicialities; how do you stop a successful person earning more? You are robbing the rich to pay more to whom; the shareholders?
I know twitter and Facebook are their own micro-worlds but I've noticed that many enthusiastic Corbynistas, who were treating him as the Messiah have now gone luke-warm on him.
I'm sensing a sea-change but as I was wrong on Brexit and Trump, I'm reluctant to advise others where to put their money.
Clive Lewis just said in C4 "we are not wedded to the free movement of capital". Hmm.
Probably misspoke. Or perhaps they're just going to run through the permutations on the Four Freedoms.
But the thing is - unless they did do something like exchange controls then everything else they want to do will just be got round.
eg with a maximum wage everyone will just be paid offshore etc.
But putting to one side how crazy it is, would it be possible in the world of the internet etc to actually impose exchange controls? I guess you would have to do something like making it a criminal offence to have a foreign bank account?
I have some sympathy with Corbyn's position - per Cummings epic blog post yesterday. Far too few people were jailed or otherwise punished for crashing the banking system. Those responsible are, by and large, rich and free. Shareholders seem to be supine as executive reward correlates poorly with actual performance. A lot of people are very, very angry about this, and his positioning will play well with them.
I just don't know what practical measures a Corbyn administration could actually take to address the issue of income inequality, that wouldn't, as you point out, have extremely undesirable side effects.
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https://order-order.com/2017/01/10/labours-new-immigration-policy/
And of course, Mr M, I wish your partner well.
Comrades, our own Parliamentary Labour Party don't know our full potential. They will do everything possible to test us; but they will only test their own embarrassment! We will leave our fleet behind, we will pass through the Conservative patrols, past their sonar nets, and lay off their largest constituency, and listen to their braying and tittering... while we conduct Austerity Debates. Then, and when we are finished, the only sound they will hear is our laughter, while we sail to Brighton, where the sun is warm, and so is the comradeship.
A great day, comrades. We sail into history!
I hope he does come back.
https://twitter.com/MarkMDub/status/818753758154911744
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/10/jeremy-corbyn-nhs-labour-immigration
In the space of a day, Corbyn has done the following:
1. Rather than postponing a relaunch, he's thrown a dead cat at himself - much as Labour does need to broaden its agenda beyond the NHS, now was not the time, just as the Government had grounded on the rocks.
2. He's done the rounds in the morning of a major speech billed as changing direction on immigration to such effect that the headlines generated by lunchtime were along the lines of him not changing tack and not wanting to reduce immigration.
3. He's chosen this of all times to float as well a vague policy of a salary cap initially on the sofa thus inviting his opponents to define it for him in order to ridicule it.
Whatever you stand on the political spectrum, this is indeed next level incompetence.
Akin to ripping a strong plaster very slowly off a hairy leg.. so painful for them!!
The spam trap blocked him for posting some dodgy links about them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q51Y5U5EPck
Let Corbyn be Corbyn...
Talking of which are there any Labour loyalist posters around- Nick BJO Justin etc-who could give a logical explanation for Corbyn's behaviour today. He's sounded completely incoherent and incompetent.
He's naturally being ridiculed on here by those who don't support him but could someone explain why they're wrong?
Terrorists would have been shouting about it from the hilltops wouldn't they? Its the only reason they target army/police
Hopefully there will be betting opportunities...
Abducted by Aliens.
Good evening, everybody.
@DPJHodges: Anyway, the thing to bear in mind is what we are witnessing today is what happens when people let Corbyn be Corbyn.
I'm an occasional poster, what about you ?
on the other hand I'm still trying to get over just how ill Marty looked on TV, I doubt he's up to serving a full term in any case
Mr. T, bodies can be hard to find in rivers.
The River Lark in that area isn't particularly wide or fast-flowing, at least from memory. However there are loads of drainage channels and a few lakes.
Incidentally, the following place is nearby, and might be of interest to you:
https://www.weststow.org/west-stow
http://hipsterttoi.tumblr.com/post/43052560921
http://www.findcorrie.co.uk/
West Stow is very interesting.
https://twitter.com/AliCatterall/status/818210398981750785
About the only strange thing I've ever seen in Bury is someone taking his two ferrets on their regular Sunday afternoon walk around the abbey ruins.
Cheers
There's also this place a little further away, which a friend raves about:
http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/visit/places/grimes-graves-prehistoric-flint-mine/
http://www.faz.net/aktuell/wirtschaft/wirtschaftspolitik/ruecknahme-von-asylbewerbern-die-entwicklungshilfe-muss-druckmittel-werden-14612894.html.
https://twitter.com/jamesrbuk/status/818880534856237056 Racists! Xenophobes! ;-)
Like him or hate him, with the exception of Ian Paisley and Gerry Adams, he has been a towering controversial figure in Northern Ireland over half a century.
Desperate times call for desperate measures.
Been to Sutton Hoo?
eg a top Premier League football club would just employ its footballers.
They would then outsource literally everything else - security, cleaning, catering, sales, ticketing, finance, HR - the lot.
They might even set up a separate company (or even club) for reserve players - if necessary.
Oh, and I've walked past it on a few occasions as well. Bit of a trend developing here.
Most of the foreign players paid basically hardly any tax.
eg with a maximum wage everyone will just be paid offshore etc.
But putting to one side how crazy it is, would it be possible in the world of the internet etc to actually impose exchange controls? I guess you would have to do something like making it a criminal offence to have a foreign bank account?
As well as a wall to stop anyone leaving, etc.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/10/day-jeremy-corbyn-slapped-jeremy-corbyn/
"Ever since he became their leader, Labour MPs have been at war with Jeremy Corbyn. In the past 24 hours, however, the conflict has taken an unexpected twist.
Now, it seems, Jeremy Corbyn is at war with himself."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1467295/Parlour-divorce-exposes-Arsenal-offshore-tax-dodge.html
I know twitter and Facebook are their own micro-worlds but I've noticed that many enthusiastic Corbynistas, who were treating him as the Messiah have now gone luke-warm on him.
I'm sensing a sea-change but as I was wrong on Brexit and Trump, I'm reluctant to advise others where to put their money.
I just don't know what practical measures a Corbyn administration could actually take to address the issue of income inequality, that wouldn't, as you point out, have extremely undesirable side effects.