MaxPB Maybe but Chinese investors can look elsewhere too, perhaps even to London
Specifically for exports the investment will all be domestic to China, or in a lot of cases foreign companies investing in Chinese factory capacity. Japan is a huge investor in China, if Trump put up trade barriers those Japanese comapneos would begin to invest in factory capacity in SE-Asia not the UK or anywhere in Europe really.
Odd how so many PB Tories - especially the ones that used to love Cameron (TSE excepted) have turned into Trump's biggest supporters since November 8th.
Of course Trump is being discussed, he's about to become President. In terms of support, I haven't seen the same huge shift in opinion since the election.
I'm not complaining about Trump being discussed - he's the leader of the free world after all. I'm observing how many PBers have done a 'Paul Ryan' and gone from being critical of Trump during the campaign, to very supportive post November 8th.
As always your simpleton nature mistakes interest for support. It's very interesting to see how Trump is bullying US companies into staying in the US, whether or not it will prove to be a sustainable strategy remains to be seen. It has implications for the UK as well which is home to several US banks which carry out significant amounts of Eurodollar trade, Trump may look to bully them into coming home as well, especially if Brexit makes trading conditions here less favourable in the short term.
You've no business to be talking about anyone having a simpleton nature given that you've made the leap that production = jobs in regard to Trump's deals.
In the short term it will mean jobs, and for Trump the short term is really all that matters.
You assume that automation of jobs in deals such as the Carrier one isn't going to happen before 2020.
Odd how so many PB Tories - especially the ones that used to love Cameron (TSE excepted) have turned into Trump's biggest supporters since November 8th.
Of course Trump is being discussed, he's about to become President. In terms of support, I haven't seen the same huge shift in opinion since the election.
I'm not complaining about Trump being discussed - he's the leader of the free world after all. I'm observing how many PBers have done a 'Paul Ryan' and gone from being critical of Trump during the campaign, to very supportive post November 8th.
As always your simpleton nature mistakes interest for support. It's very interesting to see how Trump is bullying US companies into staying in the US, whether or not it will prove to be a sustainable strategy remains to be seen. It has implications for the UK as well which is home to several US banks which carry out significant amounts of Eurodollar trade, Trump may look to bully them into coming home as well, especially if Brexit makes trading conditions here less favourable in the short term.
You've no business to be talking about anyone having a simpleton nature given that you've made the leap that production = jobs in regard to Trump's deals.
In the short term it will mean jobs, and for Trump the short term is really all that matters.
You assume that automation of jobs in deals such as the Carrier one isn't going to happen before 2020.
It would be smart for Trump to ensue that it doesn't. Who knows what the deal was.
MaxPB A significant number of western and particularly British companies are now Chinese owned and in terms of exports China is one of the world's largest growing markets, so tit for tat trade war between China and the US would lead to vacancies for exporters from other nations
Odd how so many PB Tories - especially the ones that used to love Cameron (TSE excepted) have turned into Trump's biggest supporters since November 8th.
Of course Trump is being discussed, he's about to become President. In terms of support, I haven't seen the same huge shift in opinion since the election.
I'm not complaining about Trump being discussed - he's the leader of the free world after all. I'm observing how many PBers have done a 'Paul Ryan' and gone from being critical of Trump during the campaign, to very supportive post November 8th.
As always your simpleton nature mistakes interest for support. It's very interesting to see how Trump is bullying US companies into staying in the US, whether or not it will prove to be a sustainable strategy remains to be seen. It has implications for the UK as well which is home to several US banks which carry out significant amounts of Eurodollar trade, Trump may look to bully them into coming home as well, especially if Brexit makes trading conditions here less favourable in the short term.
You've no business to be talking about anyone having a simpleton nature given that you've made the leap that production = jobs in regard to Trump's deals.
In the short term it will mean jobs, and for Trump the short term is really all that matters.
You assume that automation of jobs in deals such as the Carrier one isn't going to happen before 2020.
Construction, maintenance and such are all jobs. Skilled jobs too. Anyway, as I said in the original post, it's the optics that really matter. Ford getting shat on by Trump and thrn turning around and cancelling investment in Mexico in favour of domestic investment is a huge win for Trump. Whether or not that is sustainable (i.e jobs) remains to be seen. I said as much in my earlier post but you either didn't read or didn't understand and jumped to your own conclusions to suit your own busted narrative.
Construction, maintenance and such are all jobs. Skilled jobs too. Anyway, as I said in the original post, it's the optics that really matter. Ford getting shat on by Trump and thrn turning around and cancelling investment in Mexico in favour of domestic investment is a huge win for Trump. Whether or not that is sustainable (i.e jobs) remains to be seen. I said as much in my earlier post but you either didn't read or didn't understand and jumped to your own conclusions to suit your own busted narrative.
It's not a 'huge win for Trump' if he doesn't bring back the jobs that were lost - that was pretty much the basis of his campaign, and why so many in the Rust Belt voted him. Immediate term headlines may garner support now (although his approvals are pretty dire right now). But as these deals unfold over the next few years, and people find out all the old jobs might not be becoming back (indeed some of those saved may be getting automated anyway) Trump may well face the backlash from voters who feel that these deals promised them one thing, but produced a totally different outcome to the one they thought was going to happen.
Trump's argument that , "if you want to make a profit here, make your product here" is just a variation on "if you make your profits here, pay your taxes here."
Both arguments come from the same place - international corporations exploiting free trade/globalisation to the detriment of the local population, whether via employment or via funding for public services.
How much UK corporation tax do German car manufacturers pay, or do we only aim fire at US companies?
As an aside, has anyone been following the "Amazon Go" concept? It's a grocery store which uses advanced sensors so you literally just back your trolley (or your bag), and you automatically get billed. Because labour is 35-40% of grocery stores non-product costs this has the fantastic ability to (a) increase Amazon's profits, (b) lower the cost of (and time required to) grocery shop, and (c) eliminate millions of low wage jobs.
It will be interesting to see how Trump responds to this. (He is not a big Amazon fan generally.)
No, there's no scanning. It's all entirely automated. You simply put products in the bag you brought.
Can't see it catching on. Half of the fun of retail is staff interaction.
In my old retail consulting job some LSS-trained colleagues used to marvel at mates who had 7 duplicates of each item of clothing. Others marvelled at lack of fashion imagination.
As an aside, has anyone been following the "Amazon Go" concept? It's a grocery store which uses advanced sensors so you literally just back your trolley (or your bag), and you automatically get billed. Because labour is 35-40% of grocery stores non-product costs this has the fantastic ability to (a) increase Amazon's profits, (b) lower the cost of (and time required to) grocery shop, and (c) eliminate millions of low wage jobs.
It will be interesting to see how Trump responds to this. (He is not a big Amazon fan generally.)
Re Amazon Go....do we know the tech behind how they make it work?
I know a number of years ago Walmart thought that RFID on each item would deliver this concept, but found that it was too expensive at the time.
I know in the promo video they show a nice customer pick an item up, decide actually no I don't want it and put it back and not be charged when they walk out....will be interesting to know how the system works when shitty customers put back in the wrong place etc.
Also, I presume it doesn't work for loose items or it is trust based.
Re Amazon Go....do we know the tech behind how they make it work?
I know a number of years ago Walmart thought that RFID on each item would deliver this concept, but found that it was too expensive at the time.
I know in the promo video they show a nice customer pick an item up, decide actually no I don't want it and put it back and not be charged when they walk out....will be interesting to know how the system works when shitty customers put back in the wrong place etc.
Also, I presume it doesn't work for loose items or it is trust based.
Felica chips are manufactured for less than a penny, Amazon could just get that off the shelf, so to speak.
@MaxPB....by interesting to know if Walmart are currently revisit this. With they massive buying power you would think it would be possible for them to scale such an operation.
They obviously already have systems to tag the palettes being shipped from distribution centres to stores, but not at the individual items level.
Re Amazon Go....do we know the tech behind how they make it work?
I know a number of years ago Walmart thought that RFID on each item would deliver this concept, but found that it was too expensive at the time.
I know in the promo video they show a nice customer pick an item up, decide actually no I don't want it and put it back and not be charged when they walk out....will be interesting to know how the system works when shitty customers put back in the wrong place etc.
Also, I presume it doesn't work for loose items or it is trust based.
I thought the idea was you walk your trolley through an archway as you exit the shop, and that scans your entire trolley.
Re Amazon Go....do we know the tech behind how they make it work?
I know a number of years ago Walmart thought that RFID on each item would deliver this concept, but found that it was too expensive at the time.
I know in the promo video they show a nice customer pick an item up, decide actually no I don't want it and put it back and not be charged when they walk out....will be interesting to know how the system works when shitty customers put back in the wrong place etc.
Also, I presume it doesn't work for loose items or it is trust based.
I thought the idea was you walk your trolley through an archway as you exit the shop, and that scans your entire trolley.
Not for Amazon Go....it shows it works with people simply picking things off the shelf and putting it in their bag and walking out. No trollies or archways as such. And all items are automatically charged to your Amazon account with no payment in store.
I would presume that it is RFID (or similiar) chip based technology, but it isn't clear from the promo demo.
Re Amazon Go....do we know the tech behind how they make it work?
I know a number of years ago Walmart thought that RFID on each item would deliver this concept, but found that it was too expensive at the time.
I know in the promo video they show a nice customer pick an item up, decide actually no I don't want it and put it back and not be charged when they walk out....will be interesting to know how the system works when shitty customers put back in the wrong place etc.
Also, I presume it doesn't work for loose items or it is trust based.
I thought the idea was you walk your trolley through an archway as you exit the shop, and that scans your entire trolley.
Not for Amazon Go....it shows it works with people simply picking things off the shelf and putting it in their bag and walking out. No trollies or archways.
I would presume that it is RFID (or similiar) chip based technology, but it isn't clear from the promo demo.
Well that's what the RFID chip will be for, they'd get scanned remotely on the way out. Payment and honesty is the issue.
Re Amazon Go....do we know the tech behind how they make it work?
I know a number of years ago Walmart thought that RFID on each item would deliver this concept, but found that it was too expensive at the time.
I know in the promo video they show a nice customer pick an item up, decide actually no I don't want it and put it back and not be charged when they walk out....will be interesting to know how the system works when shitty customers put back in the wrong place etc.
Also, I presume it doesn't work for loose items or it is trust based.
You'd need a minimal level of staffing to unjumble items I suppose.
As far as loose stuff goes, self-checkouts seem happy to do that on a trust basis as we are now. In the Amazon supermarket I guess you'd weigh the items and a sticky label with an RFID tag would be printed.
Re Amazon Go....do we know the tech behind how they make it work?
I know a number of years ago Walmart thought that RFID on each item would deliver this concept, but found that it was too expensive at the time.
I know in the promo video they show a nice customer pick an item up, decide actually no I don't want it and put it back and not be charged when they walk out....will be interesting to know how the system works when shitty customers put back in the wrong place etc.
Also, I presume it doesn't work for loose items or it is trust based.
I thought the idea was you walk your trolley through an archway as you exit the shop, and that scans your entire trolley.
Not for Amazon Go....it shows it works with people simply picking things off the shelf and putting it in their bag and walking out. No trollies or archways.
I would presume that it is RFID (or similiar) chip based technology, but it isn't clear from the promo demo.
Well that's what the RFID chip will be for, they'd get scanned remotely on the way out. Payment and honesty is the issue.
The question is can they do their cost effectively. Although the chips might be fractions of a cent, who puts the chips on the products and how. I think that is the issue Walmart ran into, despite their massive buying power the big brands went do it yourself if you want it done, we aren't going to alter our production facilities just for you....which then becomes an addition cost in a cut throat business, especial at scale and if you have to deal with 10,000's of different products.
I am going to guess Amazon Go test store looks very small and so only contain a very small number of different products / ones easy to add tags to.
Re Amazon Go....do we know the tech behind how they make it work?
I know a number of years ago Walmart thought that RFID on each item would deliver this concept, but found that it was too expensive at the time.
I know in the promo video they show a nice customer pick an item up, decide actually no I don't want it and put it back and not be charged when they walk out....will be interesting to know how the system works when shitty customers put back in the wrong place etc.
Also, I presume it doesn't work for loose items or it is trust based.
I thought the idea was you walk your trolley through an archway as you exit the shop, and that scans your entire trolley.
Not for Amazon Go....it shows it works with people simply picking things off the shelf and putting it in their bag and walking out. No trollies or archways.
I would presume that it is RFID (or similiar) chip based technology, but it isn't clear from the promo demo.
Well that's what the RFID chip will be for, they'd get scanned remotely on the way out. Payment and honesty is the issue.
The question is can they do their cost effectively. Although the chips might be fractions of a cent, who puts the chips on the products and how. I think that is the issue Walmart ran into, despite their massive buying power the big brands went do it yourself if you want it done, we aren't going to alter our production facilities just for you....which then becomes an addition cost in a cut throat business, especial at scale and if you have to deal with 10,000's of different products.
I am going to guess Amazon Go test store looks very small and so only contain a very small number of different products / ones easy to add tags to.
Amazon probably have more scale than WM for packaging.
You know for someone who isn't even President yet Trump has had a pretty good day. First the Ford decision and secondly talking the Republican Congressional party out of being really stupid in respect of the ethics committee.
Re Amazon Go....do we know the tech behind how they make it work?
I know a number of years ago Walmart thought that RFID on each item would deliver this concept, but found that it was too expensive at the time.
I know in the promo video they show a nice customer pick an item up, decide actually no I don't want it and put it back and not be charged when they walk out....will be interesting to know how the system works when shitty customers put back in the wrong place etc.
Also, I presume it doesn't work for loose items or it is trust based.
I thought the idea was you walk your trolley through an archway as you exit the shop, and that scans your entire trolley.
Not for Amazon Go....it shows it works with people simply picking things off the shelf and putting it in their bag and walking out. No trollies or archways.
I would presume that it is RFID (or similiar) chip based technology, but it isn't clear from the promo demo.
Well that's what the RFID chip will be for, they'd get scanned remotely on the way out. Payment and honesty is the issue.
The question is can they do their cost effectively. Although the chips might be fractions of a cent, who puts the chips on the products and how. I think that is the issue Walmart ran into, despite their massive buying power the big brands went do it yourself if you want it done, we aren't going to alter our production facilities just for you....which then becomes an addition cost in a cut throat business, especial at scale and if you have to deal with 10,000's of different products.
I am going to guess Amazon Go test store looks very small and so only contain a very small number of different products / ones easy to add tags to.
It's been a fair few years since I coded for them, but RFID chips had a fair few limitations such as range, disruption and collisions. As always with such systems, how it fails is important, especially as such failures could be potential exploits.
Then again, Amazon are fairly good at core tech (and this is core tech), so maybe they'll be able to get it working reliably. But any betting that the costs of any problems are pushed onto the consumer?
Mind you, I half hope they do not: it will make supermarket trips even more soulless.
Not for Amazon Go....it shows it works with people simply picking things off the shelf and putting it in their bag and walking out. No trollies or archways as such. And all items are automatically charged to your Amazon account with no payment in store.
I would presume that it is RFID (or similiar) chip based technology, but it isn't clear from the promo demo.
I've read that it is mostly done with computer vision. It doesn't have to be perfect, if the mistakes are less costly than staff it is a win, and most customers will be honest so they won't be trying to trick the system.
DavidL To cap it off the Clintons announce they will attend Trump's inauguration on Friday 20th January, after George W and Laura and the Carters confirmed they would attend
Not for Amazon Go....it shows it works with people simply picking things off the shelf and putting it in their bag and walking out. No trollies or archways as such. And all items are automatically charged to your Amazon account with no payment in store.
I would presume that it is RFID (or similiar) chip based technology, but it isn't clear from the promo demo.
I've read that it is mostly done with computer vision. It doesn't have to be perfect, if the mistakes are less costly than staff it is a win, and most customers will be honest so they won't be trying to trick the system.
The Trump effect in action. Mexico already paying for the wall.
That decision alone must have Obama chewing the carpet with frustration.
A liberal forum I saw the news on were chewing on bees. Much like remainers here they want their country to fail rather than for Trump to succeed in reshoring jobs.
Is Michigan going to be winnable for a Democrat next time around? Its a serious problem for them if its not. Trump has the capacity to reshape the Presidential map and remove the structural disadvantage republicans seemed to have in recent times.
The 'structural disadvantage' is that more people vote Democrat than Republican.
it's looks like RFID + computer vision + some learned stuff about previous purchases to help with ambiguous scenarios.
Be interesting to see how a) they scale this & b) cost when scaled.
Long-term reliability will be a major issue. Just look at how often the self-service tills are out of order in supermarkets. If many shelves are going to have scales under them, there will be lots of tech to go wrong just there, yet alone with the camera and other systems.
@DavidL, my impression is that the Democrats have just given up trying to win places that aren't big cities, university towns, or majority/minority districts.
Trump's argument that , "if you want to make a profit here, make your product here" is just a variation on "if you make your profits here, pay your taxes here."
Both arguments come from the same place - international corporations exploiting free trade/globalisation to the detriment of the local population, whether via employment or via funding for public services.
How much UK corporation tax do German car manufacturers pay, or do we only aim fire at US companies?
Why would they pay corporation tax here?
You pay tax where the profits accrue: just as ARM will have never paid meaningful US or Chinese taxes.
Proof (if more were needed) from Ladbrokes that we should take the notion of the bookies' odds as an indicator of political success with an entire skipload of salt:
Trump's argument that , "if you want to make a profit here, make your product here" is just a variation on "if you make your profits here, pay your taxes here."
Both arguments come from the same place - international corporations exploiting free trade/globalisation to the detriment of the local population, whether via employment or via funding for public services.
How much UK corporation tax do German car manufacturers pay, or do we only aim fire at US companies?
Why would they pay corporation tax here?
You pay tax where the profits accrue: just as ARM will have never paid meaningful US or Chinese taxes.
BMW UK will have paid a fair amount of corporation tax here anyway since they sell cars to the dealers. It's one of those annoyances that Germany has with the EU iirc, their companies sell to the UK subsidiary and book minimal profit in Germany and then sell it for a profit in the UK to dealerships and pay UK corporation tax at 20% rather than their Byzantine corporate levies and taxes which come to around 35%.
SeanF In 2012 Obama won the Electoral College 332 to 206 by winning big cities and mid-sized cities despite losing small towns, rural areas and, narrowly, suburbs. He also lost the white vote but won the minority vote heavily so it is not necessarily a losing strategy despite the 2016 defeat. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2012
Ironically though the best thing to happen for the Democratic Party as a whole (beyond the Presidency) is to lose the White House. Pelosi now has a real chance to at least win back the House in the 2018 mid-terms if there is a protest vote against Trump while the Democrats could also pick-up some governorships and state legislatures, had Hillary won the GOP would almost certainly have increased their majority in those mid-terms
it's looks like RFID + computer vision + some learned stuff about previous purchases to help with ambiguous scenarios.
Be interesting to see how a) they scale this & b) cost when scaled.
Long-term reliability will be a major issue. Just look at how often the self-service tills are out of order in supermarkets. If many shelves are going to have scales under them, there will be lots of tech to go wrong just there, yet alone with the camera and other systems.
Which means they either need to have people being paid to sit around doing nothing or roving support teams to fix technical issues. These systems always look good in the vacuum of a perfect scenario (such as an employee shop) but in the real world it's hard to see how it will stand up to theft, technical problems and privacy issues.
What's also interesting is that Trump isn't just happy to bully corporations and executives over Twitter, he's bullying House republicans as well. He attacked their stupid plan to gut the ethics oversight committee and with an hour they released a statement saying they would back down.
What's also interesting is that Trump isn't just happy to bully corporations and executives over Twitter, he's bullying House republicans as well. He attacked their stupid plan to gut the ethics oversight committee and with an hour they released a statement saying they would back down.
This is government by Twitter.
Max is it just you sitting on a packing case with a MacBook on your lap?
What's also interesting is that Trump isn't just happy to bully corporations and executives over Twitter, he's bullying House republicans as well. He attacked their stupid plan to gut the ethics oversight committee and with an hour they released a statement saying they would back down.
This is government by Twitter.
Max is it just you sitting on a packing case with a MacBook on your lap?
No, I'm in my parents house right now, leaving on Saturday for Zurich.
Catching up on the thread beader, the polling looks remarkeably steady. Several observations:
1) This is still the phoney war phase of Brexit. 2) There is no evidence of a honeymoon effect. Usually this happens even with the most unpromising victors, even Trump got a polling boost. 3) Remain voters either were not browbeaten by "Project Fear" or the effect has not worn off. My suspicion is that this was not a powerful motivator in the first place, and perhaps the fatal flaw in the Remain campaign was to focus on this. 4) This chasm in British life is going to carry on for the forseable.
Trump's argument that , "if you want to make a profit here, make your product here" is just a variation on "if you make your profits here, pay your taxes here."
Both arguments come from the same place - international corporations exploiting free trade/globalisation to the detriment of the local population, whether via employment or via funding for public services.
How much UK corporation tax do German car manufacturers pay, or do we only aim fire at US companies?
Why would they pay corporation tax here?
You pay tax where the profits accrue: just as ARM will have never paid meaningful US or Chinese taxes.
So, what's the reason for singling out American companies if everyone is at it?
SeanF In 2012 Obama won the Electoral College 332 to 206 by winning big cities and mid-sized cities despite losing small towns, rural areas and, narrowly, suburbs. He also lost the white vote but won the minority vote heavily so it is not necessarily a losing strategy despite the 2016 defeat. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2012
Ironically though the best thing to happen for the Democratic Party as a whole (beyond the Presidency) is to lose the White House. Pelosi now has a real chance to at least win back the House in the 2018 mid-terms if there is a protest vote against Trump while the Democrats could also pick-up some governorships and state legislatures, had Hillary won the GOP would almost certainly have increased their majority in those mid-terms
I see little to suggest Dems will suddenly get good at midterms. And they face senate apocalypse in 2018 even if they do well congressionally.
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Perhaps to save time Theresa May could introduce a Brexit oath to weed out civil servants who are not true beLeavers. That way she would not be troubled by inconveniently negative assessments about difficulties ahead. Or, alternatively, she and her government might learn to listen to and weigh alternative analyses by experienced public servants.
I suppose it depends whether Brexit is a policy objective or a cultish belief.
Perhaps to save time Theresa May could introduce a Brexit oath to weed out civil servants who are not true beLeavers. That way she would not be troubled by inconveniently negative assessments about difficulties ahead. Or, alternatively, she and her government might learn to listen to and weigh alternative analyses by experienced public servants.
I suppose it depends whether Brexit is a policy objective or a cultish belief.
Perhaps to save time Theresa May could introduce a Brexit oath to weed out civil servants who are not true beLeavers. That way she would not be troubled by inconveniently negative assessments about difficulties ahead. Or, alternatively, she and her government might learn to listen to and weigh alternative analyses by experienced public servants.
I suppose it depends whether Brexit is a policy objective or a cultish belief.
Perhaps to save time Theresa May could introduce a Brexit oath to weed out civil servants who are not true beLeavers. That way she would not be troubled by inconveniently negative assessments about difficulties ahead. Or, alternatively, she and her government might learn to listen to and weigh alternative analyses by experienced public servants.
I suppose it depends whether Brexit is a policy objective or a cultish belief.
TBH, it would have been far better to have eased him out as soon as it was stated that end of March was going to be when A50 was triggered.
Putting aside he clearly favours remaining in the EU, you can't have a guy supposedly leading 2+ years of talks who is already scheduled to be stepping down after a few months into the process.
No private company would think that was a good way to do business, rather they would set up a transition to having a successor in place before talks commence.
Perhaps to save time Theresa May could introduce a Brexit oath to weed out civil servants who are not true beLeavers. That way she would not be troubled by inconveniently negative assessments about difficulties ahead. Or, alternatively, she and her government might learn to listen to and weigh alternative analyses by experienced public servants.
I suppose it depends whether Brexit is a policy objective or a cultish belief.
I do think it's time for a good old fashioned witch hunt.
On a serious note, I think there are some parts of the civil service who are actively trying to make Brexit a failure so the nation either gives up or votes to rejoin in the future. I don't know about this ambassador but he does fit the bill. Opposing voices should be welcomed, but federalists who are paid up EUphiles should be shoved off the top of the shard.
Alistair Every President since WW2 has lost House seats in their first midterms (bar W in 2002 after 9/11). Reagan lost 26 seats in 1982, Clinton 54 in 1994 and Obama 63 in 2010. Pelosi needs 24 for a majority. As for the Senate of course Obama held the Senate in 2010 despite losing the House and Reagan also held it for 6 years too but if the Democrats avoid any major losses they would then have a chance to pick up the Upper Chamber in 2020 when many seats they lost in 2014 would be up
It is worth reading in full. Why did the DPM move elsewhere? and for someone intimately involved to be unaware of what the governments position is, is pretty damning.
Talk about Stockholm syndrome in that resignation explanation email. He's a fully paid up EUphile. We need someone who is going to fight our corner, not give in because the rest of the EU won't like us. Good riddance.
Talk about Stockholm syndrome in that resignation explanation email. He's a fully paid up EUphile. We need someone who is going to fight our corner, not give in because the rest of the EU won't like us. Good riddance.
We want someone who fights for the national interest, not the narrow interest of the Brexit B team.
Talk about Stockholm syndrome in that resignation explanation email. He's a fully paid up EUphile. We need someone who is going to fight our corner, not give in because the rest of the EU won't like us. Good riddance.
We want someone who fights for the national interest, not the narrow interest of the Brexit B team.
Well there's a huge question mark over this person, he seems to think that the national interest and the interest of the EU are aligned, they are not. They have never really been aligned. Not thathe would ever realise. As I said good riddance.
It is worth reading in full. Why did the DPM move elsewhere? and for someone intimately involved to be unaware of what the governments position is, is pretty damning.
Highlights.
"We do not yet know what the Government will set as negotiating objectives for the UK’s relationship with the EU after exit."
"Serious multilateral negotiating experience is in short supply in Whitehall, and that is not the case in the Commission or in the Council."
"Senior Ministers, who will decide on our positions, issue by issue, also need from you detailed, unvarnished – even where this is uncomfortable - and nuanced understanding of the views, interests and incentives of the other 27."
"The structure of the UK’s negotiating team and the allocation of roles and responsibilities to support that team, needs rapid resolution."
"I hope you will continue to challenge ill-founded arguments and muddled thinking and that you will never be afraid to speak the truth to those in power."
Talk about Stockholm syndrome in that resignation explanation email. He's a fully paid up EUphile. We need someone who is going to fight our corner, not give in because the rest of the EU won't like us. Good riddance.
We want someone who fights for the national interest, not the narrow interest of the Brexit B team.
Leavers believe that no Remainer can reliably assess the national interest. They believe that Remainers who have not changed their minds are inherently treacherous.
Talk about Stockholm syndrome in that resignation explanation email. He's a fully paid up EUphile. We need someone who is going to fight our corner, not give in because the rest of the EU won't like us. Good riddance.
We need people who can cut a good deal with the EU, not just state our demands in an antagonistic manner. We can have 100 Farages or Foxes runs the negotiations if it will make us feel more powerful, but that isn't how we move the point where we meet the EU in the middle closer to us.
The fundamental problem we have is that, while the EU cannot force us to do anything in the future, we want something from the EU. If we want something from them then we need to reach a compromise between what they want and what we want. Being rude about them, even if it's justified, is not particularly effective in our national interest.
(That last comment isn't meant to criticise anyone here.)
4) This chasm in British life is going to carry on for the forseable.
Only up to a point. Europe is a tremendously important issue, but it doesn't exactly obsess the entire nation. If there were a massive popular split opening up between pro and anti-EU camps in the broader electorate right now, then we should be seeing a re-ordering of the political landscape, with the Liberal Democrats (as the principal Remain cheerleaders) the chief beneficiaries. We are not.
IMHO party reputation, brand loyalty, leadership credentials and economic competence all continue to matter enormously, alongside the constitutional question. There's a fair amount of voter churn going on (of which only the Ukip to Con movement seems likely to be motivated mainly by the aftermath of the referendum,) and the broad overall pattern of GE voting intention movement since 2015 still seems to be a 3-5% swing from Lab to Con. There is also, now, some indication of the beginnings of a Lib Dem polling revival to back up their local by-election wins, but a more consistent trend is still needed before we get too excited by that.
All of this is still a world away from what happened when constitutional issues came to the fore in Scotland - and the widening of the Con-Lab gap is surely at least as much to do with credibility issues as it is anything related to Europe?
TSE Has May been throwing stuff around and screaming like Brown did? Not as far as I am aware. However Brown was unlucky in the sense that he came to office just as the Tories had an electable leader, May is more fortunate in that she has come to power with Labour led by their worst leader since Foot
Talk about Stockholm syndrome in that resignation explanation email. He's a fully paid up EUphile. We need someone who is going to fight our corner, not give in because the rest of the EU won't like us. Good riddance.
We want someone who fights for the national interest, not the narrow interest of the Brexit B team.
Leavers believe that no Remainer can reliably assess the national interest. They believe that Remainers who have not changed their minds are inherently treacherous.
It is the only explanation for Leavers' conduct.
There is an element of that, one only needs to read from the like of this ambassador to realise that he would rather block Brexit by whatever means necessary and failing that push it towards failure than see the nation succeed after leaving. There are very many people, especially in the civil service, who are actively seeking a recession after leaving to punish the masses who tore them away from their beloved EU. Now obviously the vast majority of people who voted to remain aren't minded that way, but unfortunately those who count seem to be in the cult of the EU. Purging them may be a a distasteful but necessary step to get a good deal.
Talk about Stockholm syndrome in that resignation explanation email. He's a fully paid up EUphile. We need someone who is going to fight our corner, not give in because the rest of the EU won't like us. Good riddance.
We need people who can cut a good deal with the EU, not just state our demands in an antagonistic manner. We can have 100 Farages or Foxes runs the negotiations if it will make us feel more powerful, but that isn't how we move the point where we meet the EU in the middle closer to us.
The fundamental problem we have is that, while the EU cannot force us to do anything in the future, we want something from the EU. If we want something from them then we need to reach a compromise between what they want and what we want. Being rude about them, even if it's justified, is not particularly effective in our national interest.
(That last comment isn't meant to criticise anyone here.)
There's a difference between compromise and just giving in, though.
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Ford has said it will cancel a $1.6bn (£1.3bn) plant it planned to build in Mexico and instead extend operations at its factory in Michigan.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38497898
https://twitter.com/PeoplesMomentum/status/816276282128420864
Both arguments come from the same place - international corporations exploiting free trade/globalisation to the detriment of the local population, whether via employment or via funding for public services.
How much UK corporation tax do German car manufacturers pay, or do we only aim fire at US companies?
It was Clinton's emails wot done it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdsj-PIqR0g
In my old retail consulting job some LSS-trained colleagues used to marvel at mates who had 7 duplicates of each item of clothing. Others marvelled at lack of fashion imagination.
I know a number of years ago Walmart thought that RFID on each item would deliver this concept, but found that it was too expensive at the time.
I know in the promo video they show a nice customer pick an item up, decide actually no I don't want it and put it back and not be charged when they walk out....will be interesting to know how the system works when shitty customers put back in the wrong place etc.
Also, I presume it doesn't work for loose items or it is trust based.
They obviously already have systems to tag the palettes being shipped from distribution centres to stores, but not at the individual items level.
I would presume that it is RFID (or similiar) chip based technology, but it isn't clear from the promo demo.
As far as loose stuff goes, self-checkouts seem happy to do that on a trust basis as we are now. In the Amazon supermarket I guess you'd weigh the items and a sticky label with an RFID tag would be printed.
I am going to guess Amazon Go test store looks very small and so only contain a very small number of different products / ones easy to add tags to.
Are we once again underestimating him?
Then again, Amazon are fairly good at core tech (and this is core tech), so maybe they'll be able to get it working reliably. But any betting that the costs of any problems are pushed onto the consumer?
Mind you, I half hope they do not: it will make supermarket trips even more soulless.
Quite nice if you're into Star Wars: an obituary for Leia Organa.
https://mobunited.wordpress.com/2016/12/28/leia-organa-a-critical-obituary/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38501906
Perhaps they will only allow honest customers in.
If you're caught stealing, then they ban you.
Be interesting to see how a) they scale this & b) cost when scaled.
Part of the reason that US manufactured cars are more expensive is because $1500 of the retail value is the employees health costs.
A lot of US manufacturing would become profitable if US health costs were not so extreme.
You pay tax where the profits accrue: just as ARM will have never paid meaningful US or Chinese taxes.
https://twitter.com/LadPolitics/status/816205843188301824
I mean, come off it!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2012
Ironically though the best thing to happen for the Democratic Party as a whole (beyond the Presidency) is to lose the White House. Pelosi now has a real chance to at least win back the House in the 2018 mid-terms if there is a protest vote against Trump while the Democrats could also pick-up some governorships and state legislatures, had Hillary won the GOP would almost certainly have increased their majority in those mid-terms
This is government by Twitter.
A tragic but odd story:
A hit-and-run driver kills two pedestrians, then flees. He breaks into a house, and £100,000 is found buried in the house's garden.
http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-news/cambridgeshire-double-death-crash-driver-12401203
Catching up on the thread beader, the polling looks remarkeably steady. Several observations:
1) This is still the phoney war phase of Brexit.
2) There is no evidence of a honeymoon effect. Usually this happens even with the most unpromising victors, even Trump got a polling boost.
3) Remain voters either were not browbeaten by "Project Fear" or the effect has not worn off. My suspicion is that this was not a powerful motivator in the first place, and perhaps the fatal flaw in the Remain campaign was to focus on this.
4) This chasm in British life is going to carry on for the forseable.
Let's get someone in post who isn't suffering from Stockholm Syndrome.
The news sparked outrage among those who say he should not have a platform to share his views. After a coordinated appeal began on 29 December, with instructions on how to call the publisher and individual agents being shared widely online...
The Chicago Review of Books announced it would not be reviewing any Simon & Schuster books in 2017 – the company publishes about 2,000 books a year across its 35 imprints.
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/jan/03/milo-yiannopoulos-250000-book-deal-fury-leslie-jones-simon-schuster-breitbart-alt-right
Don't like the message...shut them down...silence him....
Just ignore him and his trolly rants. Its much easier and far more liberal approach.
I suppose it depends whether Brexit is a policy objective or a cultish belief.
https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/816405933312143360
'Are you now or have you ever been a Remainer?'
https://twitter.com/rupertmyers/status/816410055947886592
Putting aside he clearly favours remaining in the EU, you can't have a guy supposedly leading 2+ years of talks who is already scheduled to be stepping down after a few months into the process.
No private company would think that was a good way to do business, rather they would set up a transition to having a successor in place before talks commence.
On a serious note, I think there are some parts of the civil service who are actively trying to make Brexit a failure so the nation either gives up or votes to rejoin in the future. I don't know about this ambassador but he does fit the bill. Opposing voices should be welcomed, but federalists who are paid up EUphiles should be shoved off the top of the shard.
When a civil servant says 'business does not like uncertainty' they really mean the civil service doesn't like change.
REMAIN 48%
Good evening, everyone.
Purge the Bourgois Menshiviks, all power to the Brexit Soviets!
"We do not yet know what the Government will set as negotiating objectives for the UK’s relationship with the EU after exit."
"Serious multilateral negotiating experience is in short supply in Whitehall, and that is not the case in the Commission or in the Council."
"Senior Ministers, who will decide on our positions, issue by issue, also need from you detailed, unvarnished – even where this is uncomfortable - and nuanced understanding of the views, interests and incentives of the other 27."
"The structure of the UK’s negotiating team and the allocation of roles and responsibilities to support that team, needs rapid resolution."
"I hope you will continue to challenge ill-founded arguments and muddled thinking and that you will never be afraid to speak the truth to those in power."
The Empress' suit is becoming a little frayed.
As someone told me before Christmas
'I've always wondered what it was like to work for Gordon Brown when he was PM, now I know'
It is the only explanation for Leavers' conduct.
The fundamental problem we have is that, while the EU cannot force us to do anything in the future, we want something from the EU. If we want something from them then we need to reach a compromise between what they want and what we want. Being rude about them, even if it's justified, is not particularly effective in our national interest.
(That last comment isn't meant to criticise anyone here.)
IMHO party reputation, brand loyalty, leadership credentials and economic competence all continue to matter enormously, alongside the constitutional question. There's a fair amount of voter churn going on (of which only the Ukip to Con movement seems likely to be motivated mainly by the aftermath of the referendum,) and the broad overall pattern of GE voting intention movement since 2015 still seems to be a 3-5% swing from Lab to Con. There is also, now, some indication of the beginnings of a Lib Dem polling revival to back up their local by-election wins, but a more consistent trend is still needed before we get too excited by that.
All of this is still a world away from what happened when constitutional issues came to the fore in Scotland - and the widening of the Con-Lab gap is surely at least as much to do with credibility issues as it is anything related to Europe?