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Interventions at tomorrow's PMQs
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2365891/Farage-attacks-spineless-clueless-Miliband-condemning-union-attack-UKIP.html
Most unfortunate.
Almost.
*chortle*
"...it's all been to defend Andy Burnham.".
That. Right there.
The barren, utter tragedy of tim's meaningless existence laid bare.
Are you expecting another one?
NF! Subtle, well spotted you clever so & so.
Wonder if it will become PB shorthand like those ribticklers Cammie & Osbrowne
*titters
*too hot even to read threads*
Actually just watching Keogh on Sky who seems like a measured sort of chap.
Are you expecting another one?
Mistaken as always, Pork.
You are muddling MaxPB and BenM.
Wonder if it will become PB shorthand like those ribticklers Cammie & Osbrowne
*titters
It was used by other posters before me just like TB or DC occassionally are. Since you like it so much I will of course respect your wishes and use it as much as possible.
*titters indeed.
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Worse, whoever is the new Speaker will be anxious to prove he or she is not a Tory lackey.
A couple of threads back we had this link to Lord Ashcroft on Conservatives indulging themselves.
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2013/07/thats-enough-fantasy-politics-margaret-thatcher-day-is-not-a-vote-winner/
Replacing Bercow is of a piece.
*titters indeed.
toxic Osbrowne Clunk titters Cammie chortle
tumbleweed
If there is so much anti-Bercow feeling, why didn't they just vote for someone else in 2010 when he had to stand for election in the new Parliament? I really do have contempt for our legislators when they have contempt for the democratic process and treat the idea of someone having to stand for re-election as somehow beneath their dignity. The anti-Bercovians should have put up an alternative candidate.
Indeed. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10183304/Sketch-Therell-be-smears-before-bedtime.html
" As the Commons angrily contested the findings of the Keogh report on NHS mortality rates, Andy Burnham had some stern advice for the Tories. “The simple truth,” he snapped, “is that people watching want solutions, rather than point-scoring!”
Noble words, I’m sure we’d all agree – although perhaps with one small caveat. The Shadow Health Secretary’s words would have sounded even nobler had he said them the moment he rose to the dispatch box, rather than after spending seven minutes calling his opponents “cynical”, “outrageous”, “partisan” and “shocking”. Because spending seven minutes calling his opponents “cynical”, “outrageous”, “partisan” and “shocking” may have looked to some people like point-scoring.
Such people would have been mistaken, of course, because we know how strongly Mr Burnham disapproves of point-scoring. Indeed, he must have been livid, about 20 minutes later, when his colleague Chris Bryant (Lab, Rhondda) mockingly accused Jeremy Hunt of being “run by” Lynton Crosby, the Tory strategist. How Mr Burnham must have fumed when he heard that. “That’s nothing but point-scoring!” he must have thought. Lord knows how he resisted shouting his colleague down.
Then, as other Labour MPs repeatedly tried to drown out Mr Hunt by yelling “Shameful!”, “Terrible!” and “Disgraceful!”, it must have taken all the strength Mr Burnham had not to turn to the benches behind him and bellow, “Would you all stop trying to score points, and offer some solutions! It’s solutions that people want! Why oh why won’t you think of the people watching!”
How about a bet that Bercow as speaker outlasts Miliband as LoTO?
Now that's more interesting I'd have thought
Mr. Smithson, I strongly suspect you'll make some money on that. Bercow loves his own voice, loves antagonising the Conservatives and it's hard to see the session being anything other than fractious.
An Irish first-name poster on PB to be sure or a shampoo?
Is Hunt stupidly straying onto Labour's home ground, or cleverly deploying the Rovian tactic of attacking your opponent's greatest strength? Stupid or clever? Clever or stupid?
Maybe we won't know till the details unravel about 13,000 and nurse shortages and Lansley and Burnham and PFI (Gordon Brown's worst invention).
Further legal challenges are pending in the World Trade Organization and under the Australia-Hong Kong Bilateral Investment Treaty.
Why does the MSM insist on pronouncing Keogh as "Key-Oh"?
The proper pronunciation has to be ""Cough!".
"Bambi attacked the Andrex puppy. Both accused each other of being beastly and howwid. The crowd egged them on but no blood was spilled and neither of them said anything worthwhile."
My reading too. All I'll add is this morning i thought Burnham was a sad waste of space.
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Very OT. Any Chagall fans around there is an exhibition at Tate Liverpool which is outstanding. I've seen his permanent exhibition in Cimiez several times but this was better. Much of the work coming from the New York Guggenheim.
PS Liverpool is full of attractive Italians and French. A very surprising city.
PPS. An exploitative exhibition of cancer sufferers by Rankin at the Walker. Avoid at all costs. Puerile crap. Someone needs to snap his trigger finger
Right wing as I am I personally like the look of them even though it would be likely to cost me money.
THE SPEAKER: ORDER, ORDER, ORRRRRDER, Mr tim, I am most concerned about your health. ORRRDERR. All this shouting and thrashing. ORRRRDERRR, No Mr. Neil, I don't need your advice - shut it. ORRDER. Mr tim, ORRRDER, you must control yourself man, or take the dog for a walk. Get a grip, get a grip I say. The public hate it. ORRRDER, And I hate it. And Sally hates it....Mr. Secretary Nabavi
And the political anoraks just stay overheated.
Have you noticed Sam Cam wants to intervene in Syria "As a mother"
They must've replaced those " I don't recall" practice sessions in Number ten with something else.
"As a Father I'd like some more potatoes". "As a Mother I will pass them to you"
Your usual, boring system. Get something someone says and make spurious connections to other items in a frantic attempt to create a story.
Spin, in other words. And rather thin, pathetic stuff.
As a matter of interest, in all the posts you have made today about the NHS, have you expressed any concern for the patients who were let down by the service?
'About 2 hours ago I left to cook and relax. I come back briefly and Tim is still on here as he's been all day smearing and trolling for mascara man.'
After almost round the clock posting Tim's convinced Pork & Ben M,but Roger's still undecided.
Titters..
Titters...
Wise advice.
But is Ed strong enough to take it?
How much did that cost?
Perhaps he was Rob, perhaps he was.
Bit of a pattern forming whereby labour's shadow cabinet is somehow managing to be as hopeless as the govt front bench. Burnham might be good on the doorstep but if he can't handle the risible Hunt then he's dead weight.
Here we have it: in your eyes people concerned about patients in the NHS are displaying fake emotion.
Pathetic, even by your low standards.
You admit you have not expressed any such concern in any of your scores of posts, and instead go on the attack against people who actually care?
The NHS is about patients, pure and simple. When it does well, it should be congratulated. When it fails, lessons should be learnt and measures put in place to prevent then happening again.
One of those has not been happening in all cases; sadly, they are the most important cases.
Burnham's a goner at health.
Keeping him in place would be providing target practice for the Tories right up to the GE.
As RobD suggests he'll go in the summer shadow cabinet reshuffle.
Or he's running scared after a day on the ropes.
Let's see...
Booster cushions at the ready.
Thanks for the advice. I've noticed the Mark Chagall adverts for a while now and as the "old gits" are meeting up in Liverpool tomorrow, I might suggest it.
Unfortunately, there are too many other attractions for us less cultured ruffians. I expect we'll end up in the Dispensary drinking Rat or something similar and then stagger back using our free bus passes.
Alternatively, I could stay indoors and debate politics after reading tim's 94th post saying the same thing. A tricky decision.
TBF to Burnham, he was only in post for nine months - eight months to discover the location of the toilets and a month to prepare speeches to help his career. That went well, then.
My view on the saga ... us old gits are taking over the health system and the costs will inevitably rise. We're more successful at keeping people alive but medicine is like the little boy with his finger in the dyke.
Cancer is a good example. We'll never find a "cure" for cancer even if we can cure a few specific ones and increase the time available for others. It's all in the genes and we have too many. It's very difficult for a cell to turn cancerous but given time, it inevitably will. The body is poised between cell proliferation and senescence - it's a fact of life, or rather death.
So the boozer it is. We'll have one for you all on PB.
Does he do anything else?
Not a good example in that article. The son gets DLA Care Component which is to pay for the extra costs of personal care. Seems reasonable that goes towards the additional cost of a bedroom for a respite carer. And we are not told why the parents cannot work at least part time. It would be instructive to know exactly how much they receive in benefits and then we can make our own decision about whether it's enough. But we're not told that.
If one third of disabled claimants are turned down for DHPs maybe they don't need it - if the people in this article are the best example the Guardian can find, then the policy seems to be working well.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2365252/Germany-admits-mass-immigration-threatens-social-peace.html
Since the main risk is an actuarial one on John Bercow's health, and he seems to be doing fine for a middle-aged man, odds as short as 1/8 on his survival to the end of the year look highly attractive. But sadly the bookies have desisted. Perhaps they were concerned that it was vulnerable to challenge under the Life Assurance Act 1774.
Unlike your local NHS hospital.
Of course, by looking at the "fake deaths" we seem to have found out that there are serious failings in 11 out of the 14 hospitals. Which of course you don't care a flying f&*% about. Oh no, it's just your repetitively pointless political point. Which turns out to have been a pretty effective bit of ambush marketing by the Tories.
Perhaps a closer look will aid you lest you cast any more aspersions on how 'deserving' or not that family is for your PB tory welfare test.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMzzkYhp0Q8
As you no doubt realise, that photo has no bearing on the arguments I made in my comment.
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