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After watching David Miliband’s interview on Marr this morning I set out to write a piece that Labour chose the right Miliband. The Speccie’s Fraser Nelson got there before me. This is how he concludes:-
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Its lunch - 20 needed with one wicket- Aussies have all afternoon to get them as long as they do not lose concentration after lunch.
Speaking of lunch, here on the sandy beach just beneath the dunes, my lunch has arrived. Couple of barely-there dressed young ladies have brought the picnic basket and the chilled champagne. Cheers!
Hurling in Brighton Pavilion springs to mind as a suitable opportunity.
As for England, Finn must go, but Morgan won't solve the opening partnership problem.
I'm not really seeing what some people seem to see in him. His personal big idea was the individual carbon ration card. He's fine as a speaker, but for the leadership Labour dodged a bullet, IMHO.
He stabbed his brother in the back, and now he's stabbed Unite who got him elected.
I wouldn't trust him as far as I could spit him. He married his wife as a result of awkward questions. Some may smile on this behaviour and call him *ruthless* - I think it stinks - and don't feel he's loyal to anyone but himself.
Your observation is correct I think, but it makes the tory charge that Ed is 'weak' look very stupid. Ed isn't weak. He wants to be PM and will do whatever it takes to get it, and keep it.
There's a kind of insurance for voters in that. Ed isn't about to embark on a bunch of crazy leftie measures if its gonna cost him power.
Actually London has qualified for the Connacht Final of the Gaelic Football championship. Unfortunately Boris cant be convinced to back our boys in Castlebar.
He's scoring 50s % approval with Labour voters. According to an ex-GF he used 'feel sorry and mother me' to get laid. I'm sorry but none of this says to me Alpha Male Leader Who Is PM Material.
If we were watching Lost - he'd be the whiny scheming character who lasted until the penultimate episode and was finally killed off.
Clearly he doesnt do much for you but the important question is whether he is more attractive to voters who are actually open to voting Labour. I think he is.
I believe it all comes down to David's wife and his friends saying that in 2009 Ed told David "your time would come" and they interpreted it as "I won't run against you". But Ed's camp says it wasn't the case (so the case could have been "I don't think you would be useless enough to lose against me")
Or that England is still in 1800 and the eldest brother gets the Kingdom while the other becomes a Bishop.
1) To the extent that the voters believe it, it reassures them he won't do anything particularly bad.
2) He can refute "weak" by doing bold things.
3) Culturally, nerdy is looking better than it used to.
But it is difficult to imagine any Labour leadership election avoiding some form of interfamilial treachery. Brother set against brother, husband against wife, father against daughter, son against mother.
All soap opera politics in the party of hereditary office and nepotist advancement.
Given we discovered all the stories about Tony vs Gordon were more than true, I suspect this is no different.
Never in doubt.
But wonderful.
Australia did not deserve to lose like that.
Australia just keep on fighting. They never give up. It is hugely impressive.
Let's say that he decided the best way to keep power is to give Ed Balls free reign over the economy - the chance to destroy it again. A bit like Blair and Brown - Blair didn't agree, and didn't approve of Brown's actions, but he needed him to ensure his personal position.
I think we have established that he didn't take losing well. The sense of betrayal is probably in David's mind/heart. But if it does come out from anything with real substance or not, it is up in the air for us who have not Miliband as surname.
"EdM misled his brother about what he was doing re lobbying unions for support."
in other words, this is called "campaigning". The thing David's team didn't understand well
Anyway two magnificent rear guard actions from Australia.
The real winner is Test Cricket and the Ashes.
That makes this a Bashing the Bishop thread, then.
You're too soft. They always deserve to lose.
As Lord Rennard's acolytes might say, Haddin touched it.
'So England scrape home all down to Broad's cheating"
I agree. a very hollow victory where the big loser is the game and England's reputation
Is it the internet millionaires? Is it the rise of feminism? Is it the move to a less violent society?
Take "the big bang theory" as the "friends" of the contemporary sitcom. The heros are the nerds, and Sheldon is shown as hero as well as social misfit, and notably the four nerd boys are enjoying life while the beautiful and popular Penny is left behind.
Youth, looks and popularity fade, an abiding interest in trains, politics or wargames can make for a lifetimes enjoyment.
Arise Ed Miliband, and lead us nerds to the sunny uplands of predistribution!
" Australia captain Michael Clarke: "The boys can hold their heads high. It was a wonderful game of cricket but credit to England, they fought well. The two best performers in the match were Ian Bell and Jimmy Anderson and England deserved the win. "
Especially nowadays with DRS. If Australia hadn't wasted their reviews on balls going down leg side trying to get a bonus wicket they'd have had a review to use on Broad.
Im sure Rodger has written many posts criticising him and Michael Clarke for not walking yesterday...
On the issue of which of the Miliband brother was the better option, neither are as they both share one big problem with the other candidates that ran in the last Labour Leadership contest. And that is the fact that none of them were suited to the job of finally healing the wounds created by the Blair/Brown years at the most senior levels of the PLP and bringing about a sense of unity and purpose. With a Coalition Government comes the luxury of being the only main Opposition, and that has bred a complacency that has allowed a lack of strong Leadership and a policy vacuum to grow unhindered.
Whatever you say about Cameron's leadership in Opposition, the fact that he managed to bring back Hague, IDS and even Clarke into the fold of the Shadow Cabinet speaks volumes about the current dire straights in the upper echelons of the Labour party.
Were I ever to attend a PB do I would be most disappointed if TSE wasn't his splitting image.
I predict much jollity to come from this change alone. With Mourinho back in place just up the Kings Road and Fergie consigned to the dustbin of history, what more could one want?.
Even Villas-Boas holds better than average promise.
We are witnessing a new Cameronian dawn. It is time to celebrate.
Supporting Leicester City means sufferring a lot of inept managers and substandard players. To me it is like the British weather. You really enjoy the good bits, like this sunny weekend, because of their scarcity. As Ian Botham said after spending a year in Queensland and returning to England "you can only take so much f***ing sunshine"
I'm surprised Mike Smithson has allowed this one to go unchallenged. There were not endless articles here at the time telling us Brown would be a great PM, quite the contrary. Mike penned many articles using polling evidence to assert what a great mistake the Labour Party was making in electing him leader.
"Clarke shows the class that you lack ;"
No. Clark shows dignity in defeat which is what good sportsmanship demands. As an English supporter I'd suggest banning Broad for the rest of the season which neither shows I have or haven't got class. It just shows the way I prefer cricket to be played..
There are advantages to being aggressive, and there are advantages to being loyal. But David Miliband's thing seems to be passive-aggressive, which is the worst of both worlds.
There is no one of equivalent stature to Hague and IDS in the Labour Party. One would need to exhume Michael Foot and John Smith to fill the shadow cabinet.
Either that or wait for Rowenna Davis to become an MP.
it's today. Southampton Itchen select today. Have you phoned Len?
Not just cheating but also using one of Australians review for his own sake of not walking.
I would even go as far to say a fair price for your outcome would be odds on.
Its been said for decades that its inappropriate nowadays for batsmen to walk if not given out. On the Aussie side Haddin didn't walk, Clark didn't walk. Clark had 2 DRS reviews designed to fix Umpire-howlers. It is not Broad's fault that Clark wasted his 2 reviews.
Had the shoe been on the other foot, England had wasted their reviews and Broad had been given out when he wasn't (say it was given LBW but was really sliding down leg) would Australia have called him back to continue? No. Sometimes you get a good decision, sometimes a bad one, you are never obliged to walk.
Cameron used to have all the previous Conservative leaders in for a chat at regular intervals, ditto Osborne when it came to the previous Chancellors. Indeed, John Major who had all but disappeared from political life also turned up and made a powerful intervention when Brown went to Iraq during the Conservative Conference in 2007. Labour have yet to elect a Leader that is capable of persuading the old Labour protagonists to get around a table for a chat, Ed couldn't even get his brother to be his best man at his wedding.
Everyone has their own sense of what is right. You don't need a set of rules to tell you that if you're caught you're out.
Where I went to school not walking was a capital offence and few schools produced more county players.
There's a breathless hush in the Close to-night—
Ten to make and the match to win—
A bumping pitch and a blinding light,
An hour to play and the last man in.
And it's not for the sake of a ribboned coat,
Or the selfish hope of a season's fame,
But his captain's hand on his shoulder smote
"Play up! play up! and play the game!"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/23306438
A salute to Tom Simpson.
"Wind your neck in son and get down from your ivory tower. Your monumental self-righteousness is affecting the brick work."
If you are a deputy headmaster all is now clear. Just tell me you're in charge of sport at your school and I'll shoot myself
I believe Darling would be more useful in the Shadow Cabinet than some sitting there. I think Straw can stay on the backbenches to give some advices if needed.
"Five years ago, I was one of 15 Liberal Democrat MPs who voted against the party whip and for a referendum on the EU Lisbon Treaty. As a liberal and a democrat, I did not feel that I should be denying the British people the right to vote on a matter with constitutional implications.
And I was one of the Liberal Democrat MPs, who, with our leader Nick Clegg, walked out of the Commons in 2008 when the then speaker, Michael Martin, refused to call a Lib Dem amendment on an in-out referendum.
Though I voted for a referendum on Lisbon, I also agreed with what Nick Clegg said at the time: ‘Gordon Brown cannot ignore the rightful demand of the British people to have their say on Europe. They were promised a vote far, far wider than the Lisbon Treaty . . . and that promise must now be fulfilled. It should be fulfilled by asking the British people the real question – the question that matters to them: ‘‘Should we stay in the EU, or should we leave? Are we in – or are we out?” ’
Nick also said: ‘Nobody in this country under the age of 51 has ever been asked that simple question. That includes half of all MPs. We’ve been signed up to Europe by default: two generations who have never had their say.’
If that was the case in 2008, it must be even more true now.
I agree with Nick when he says it is not a case of if, but when, we have a referendum; but that means that the Liberal Democrats need to be seen to be committed to that ‘when’; and it must be in the next four years – by 2017 – to have any credibility. My own view is that we are better off in the European Union, but that it needs reform and so we should seek to influence things from within."
"David Miliband today admitted he can 'never erase' the memory of losing against his brother in their bitter struggle for the Labour leadership three years ago.
But the former foreign secretary added his relationship with younger brother Ed is 'healing' and there was no point 'looking in the rear view mirror'.
The ex-MP spoke candidly to veteran broadcaster Andrew Marr, who returned to his BBC show on Sunday, just six months after suffering a stroke.
The interview was Mr Miliband's last before he moves to New York to head up the International Rescue Committee charity.
Although he did not completely rule out a comeback, he added that leaving British politics would ensure an end to the 'soap opera' of the brothers' rivalry.
Mr Miliband said: 'The truth is I did not think I would be in this position.But I am now, I'm excited, I am engaged. Of course I am sad to go, but I am excited by the challenge ahead.'
He added: 'These things, you can never erase them from memory or history.
'But Ed and I are brothers for life. That is something that you value and that you nurture whatever the difficulty of the circumstances.'
Asked if his relationship with Ed was 'healing', Mr Miliband replied: 'Of course.'
Comparing the brothers to Wimbledon tennis finalists Andy Murray and Novak Djokovic, he continued: 'The important thing though is that you've got to never lead your life by looking in the rear view mirror.
'You can't afford to end up eating yourself up with that kind of struggle.
'You've got to try and say, there are the Murrays of this world who win and there are the Djokovics who come second. You've got to be gracious when you don't win.'"
It also brings a tear to my eye every time I read it. And I was never, ever, near a public school in my younger days. Three cheers for Sir Henry Newbolt and Vitea Lampada.
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"A housing protestar has been headbutted in front of Community ventre were Hampstead labour selection is taking place....ambulance callex "
actually means
"Housing protester has been headbuttted in front of the Community Centre where Hampstead & Kilburn Labour selection is taking place...ambulance called"
I am so impressed that you just know all these things and have these marvellous insights into peoples' motives, you must be so clever, then, on the other hand...
Also buy an airconditoner - costs £100, but can make a 3-4 degree difference.
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She was one of the Unite backed candidates.
Running total of Unite's 41 is now
11 selected
14 defeated
16 to go
Julius Caeser said with a smile
There are 1,760 yards in a mile
Two serviceman have tragically died during a training exercise in searing heat, the Ministry of Defence has said.
It appears the men died from the exertion of training in the extreme, near 30C temperatures, rather than from wounding, sources said. A third person remains in hospital following the tragedy, which happened in the Brecon Beacons in Wales.
A spokesman said: 'The MoD can confirm that it is working with Dyfed Powys Police to investigate an incident during a training exercise on the Brecon Beacons on Saturday in which two members of military personnel died.
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I didn't do it, wasn't me & even though my words in 09 contradict what I say now I'm right. @andyburnhammp #skynews pic.twitter.com/ZQv8qOjOy5
Fridge picnics are good too.
edit: rubbish idea
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I was thinking one of the portable pieces of cr*p that you get in B&Q...
Off to SoCal on Friday... looking forward to trying the aircon I had installed while I was in the UK
I find it difficult to call this weather "hot". It really suits me, but it can be oppressive in closed spaces. As I recollect, you have quite big windows, nice for the winter sun, but un-nice in the summer "heat". Open windows to try to get a through put of air (not a good day for that where I am) and strip down. I wonder whether some sort of awnings or blinds might not help, but we have so little "warm" weather that might be a waste of money, even if your building regulations allow it. Once in a similar situation I taped aluminum foil on the inside of a couple of offending windows, but that was in the back of a building and not in a posh part of town either.