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  • rpjsrpjs Posts: 3,787

    RobD said:

    No one has left the EU before, so of course we have to make it up.
    *Sunil utters a cough that sounds suspiciously like "Greenland"*

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenlandic_European_Communities_membership_referendum,_1982
    Greenland did not leave the EU. It was never a member of the EU.
  • sladeslade Posts: 2,095
    Essexit said:

    Mr Dancer bringing up gaming reminds me - has anyone else played Civilization VI yet?

    Vanilla VI > Vanilla V for sure, but I'm still not sure if Vanilla VI > Expanded V. The AI still doesn't know how to fight a war for one.

    Yes. There are a lot of familiar features but some new twists. For example you create campuses, districts, neighbourhoods around a city and and send Great Persons to them to initiate advances or carry out missions. The graphics are great in detail but the wider perspective is a bit weird. I have only completed one civilisation so far and got a rubbish score. Much more to learn.
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    Utah - Survey Monkey - Sample 1,069 - 18-26 Oct

    Clinton 29 .. Trump 32 .. McMullin 29

    Via 538
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,158
    edited October 2016
    slade said:

    Essexit said:

    Mr Dancer bringing up gaming reminds me - has anyone else played Civilization VI yet?

    Vanilla VI > Vanilla V for sure, but I'm still not sure if Vanilla VI > Expanded V. The AI still doesn't know how to fight a war for one.

    Yes. There are a lot of familiar features but some new twists. For example you create campuses, districts, neighbourhoods around a city and and send Great Persons to them to initiate advances or carry out missions. The graphics are great in detail but the wider perspective is a bit weird. I have only completed one civilisation so far and got a rubbish score. Much more to learn.
    I think I've been spoilt by Europa Universalis, although I suppose they are different beasts.
  • MonksfieldMonksfield Posts: 2,838
    Based on the content of the thread leader I'm afraid I'm beginning to think Don Brind is some sort of a spoof poster.
  • nunununu Posts: 6,024
    JackW said:

    Utah - Survey Monkey - Sample 1,069 - 18-26 Oct

    Clinton 29 .. Trump 32 .. McMullin 29

    Via 538

    Oh shit, its all about turnout there now.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    JackW said:

    Utah - Survey Monkey - Sample 1,069 - 18-26 Oct

    Clinton 29 .. Trump 32 .. McMullin 29

    Via 538

    Yes, Clinton needs to step aside and stop splitting the vote.
  • rpjs said:

    RobD said:

    No one has left the EU before, so of course we have to make it up.
    *Sunil utters a cough that sounds suspiciously like "Greenland"*

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenlandic_European_Communities_membership_referendum,_1982
    Greenland did not leave the EU. It was never a member of the EU.
    The EC was the direct predecessor of the EU.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,075
    Mr. D, different genus, same family, perhaps.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,654
    JackW said:

    Utah - Survey Monkey - Sample 1,069 - 18-26 Oct

    Clinton 29 .. Trump 32 .. McMullin 29

    Via 538

    We're gonna have a vote

    So efficient

    It's gonna be great.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,654
    Alistair said:

    JackW said:

    Utah - Survey Monkey - Sample 1,069 - 18-26 Oct

    Clinton 29 .. Trump 32 .. McMullin 29

    Via 538

    Yes, Clinton needs to step aside and stop splitting the vote.
    Here here.
  • rpjsrpjs Posts: 3,787

    rpjs said:

    RobD said:

    No one has left the EU before, so of course we have to make it up.
    *Sunil utters a cough that sounds suspiciously like "Greenland"*

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenlandic_European_Communities_membership_referendum,_1982
    Greenland did not leave the EU. It was never a member of the EU.
    The EC was the direct predecessor of the EU.
    Yes but you're not exactly comparing apples with apples here - the EC in 1985 was a far less developed beast than the EU in 201?. No single market for a start.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,239
    MP_SE said:
    Did Heath not resign about 1974/5? Seem a bit behind the times.
  • weejonnieweejonnie Posts: 3,820
    Pulpstar said:

    Alistair said:

    JackW said:

    Utah - Survey Monkey - Sample 1,069 - 18-26 Oct

    Clinton 29 .. Trump 32 .. McMullin 29

    Via 538

    Yes, Clinton needs to step aside and stop splitting the vote.
    Here here.
    https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/791404620333678592
  • MrsBMrsB Posts: 574
    well Baldrick unlikely to do worse than Fox. Anybody know whether we have already saturated the turnip export markets?
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    weejonnie said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Alistair said:

    JackW said:

    Utah - Survey Monkey - Sample 1,069 - 18-26 Oct

    Clinton 29 .. Trump 32 .. McMullin 29

    Via 538

    Yes, Clinton needs to step aside and stop splitting the vote.
    Here here.
    https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/791404620333678592
    Green screen. Clearly.

    Wake up sheeple.
  • nunununu Posts: 6,024
    Alistair said:

    weejonnie said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Alistair said:

    JackW said:

    Utah - Survey Monkey - Sample 1,069 - 18-26 Oct

    Clinton 29 .. Trump 32 .. McMullin 29

    Via 538

    Yes, Clinton needs to step aside and stop splitting the vote.
    Here here.
    https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/791404620333678592
    Green screen. Clearly.

    Wake up sheeple.
    Wow those crowds.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,239
    DavidL said:

    MP_SE said:
    Did Heath not resign about 1974/5? Seem a bit behind the times.
    By the way. Quick tip to the Electoral Commission: check the Lib Dem declaration for Botox. If it's not there time to investigate.
  • SquareRootSquareRoot Posts: 7,095
    MP_SE said:
    Is it true that Zac does SFA for his constituency, or is he a grafter?. The voters need to know.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,112
    edited October 2016
    RobD said:

    OT... new Apple laptops out today. They are apparently ditching the escape key, is nothing sacred!

    I cannot believe either that laptops these days don't have a working page down button. It makes eg reading PB one extra step awkward.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,158
    TOPPING said:

    RobD said:

    OT... new Apple laptops out today. They are apparently ditching the escape key, is nothing sacred!

    I cannot believe either that laptops these days don't have a working page down button. It makes eg reading PB one extra step awkward.
    ctrl+down does the trick
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,112
    RobD said:

    TOPPING said:

    RobD said:

    OT... new Apple laptops out today. They are apparently ditching the escape key, is nothing sacred!

    I cannot believe either that laptops these days don't have a working page down button. It makes eg reading PB one extra step awkward.
    ctrl+down does the trick
    Yes. On mine it's "fn" down. But it's still two actions for what was previously a tap on one button.
  • timmotimmo Posts: 1,469
    weejonnie said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Alistair said:

    JackW said:

    Utah - Survey Monkey - Sample 1,069 - 18-26 Oct

    Clinton 29 .. Trump 32 .. McMullin 29

    Via 538

    Yes, Clinton needs to step aside and stop splitting the vote.
    Here here.
    https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/791404620333678592
    That sounds like a load if bussed in schoolkids judging from the high pitched squealing
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 8,782
    edited October 2016
    MP_SE said:
    Was a fan.

    A Lib Dem spokesperson defended the blog posts about the Conservative prime minister: “I’m sure a lot of people breathed a sigh of relief when it wasn’t Andrea Leadsom as prime minister,” they said, “but I think a lot of that comfort soon evaporated when Theresa May stood up and made her party conference speech.”

    Quite. Exactly as I felt. I said it on here. Didn't last when she swung to hard Brexit.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,654
    MP_SE said:
    Could Buzzfeed at least get bloody screengrabs of her old (Deleted) blog posts. The Telegraph attempted hatch job on her had no bearing on the reality of what she said.

    Hint: Use Google cache.
  • MP_SEMP_SE Posts: 3,642
    Pulpstar said:

    MP_SE said:
    Could Buzzfeed at least get bloody screengrabs of her old (Deleted) blog posts. The Telegraph attempted hatch job on her had no bearing on the reality of what she said.

    Hint: Use Google cache.
    Maybe she could also defend her association with bigot Jenny Tonge. Not so easy to explain away.
  • brokenwheelbrokenwheel Posts: 3,352
    https://twitter.com/maitlis/status/791705679648137216

    Well he found one black Trump voter in New Hampshire!
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,654

    https://twitter.com/maitlis/status/791705679648137216

    Well he found one black Trump voter in New Hampshire!

    :D
  • PongPong Posts: 4,693
    edited October 2016

    https://twitter.com/maitlis/status/791705679648137216

    Well he found one black Trump voter in New Hampshire!

    That's hilarious. A prepubescent english voice on the other end of the line. At 3am.

    "...and are you educated or uneducated?"
  • 619619 Posts: 1,784
    He 's a rubbish Russian sleeper agent

    https://twitter.com/ajjaffe/status/791708884339716096
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 8,782
    MP_SE said:

    Pulpstar said:

    MP_SE said:
    Could Buzzfeed at least get bloody screengrabs of her old (Deleted) blog posts. The Telegraph attempted hatch job on her had no bearing on the reality of what she said.

    Hint: Use Google cache.
    Maybe she could also defend her association with bigot Jenny Tonge. Not so easy to explain away.
    Jenny Tonge said "'I was chairing, I did not make any speeches, I introduced the speakers and in the course of that meeting there was a great rant.
    'You do get ranters at these meetings and I think the best way of dealing with them - if you challenge them they go on and on and on and on - the best way is to just say 'yes, thank you very much, next speaker'.'
  • timmo said:

    weejonnie said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Alistair said:

    JackW said:

    Utah - Survey Monkey - Sample 1,069 - 18-26 Oct

    Clinton 29 .. Trump 32 .. McMullin 29

    Via 538

    Yes, Clinton needs to step aside and stop splitting the vote.
    Here here.
    https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/791404620333678592
    That sounds like a load if bussed in schoolkids judging from the high pitched squealing
    High pitched screams of terror. Like a beach scene from Jaws as the fish guts a bather.
  • ChrisChris Posts: 11,783
    619 said:

    He 's a rubbish Russian sleeper agent

    https://twitter.com/ajjaffe/status/791708884339716096

    But a brilliant Democrat sleeper agent!
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,654
    Pong said:

    https://twitter.com/maitlis/status/791705679648137216

    Well he found one black Trump voter in New Hampshire!

    That's hilarious. A prepubescent english voice on the other end of the line. At 3am.

    "...and are you educated or uneducated?"
    Actually it is quite interesting he found a black Trump voter in a few calls.

    Statistically unlikely I think.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 63,560

    https://twitter.com/maitlis/status/791705679648137216

    Well he found one black Trump voter in New Hampshire!

    Why is he weird? Sounds like he is on his way to a guest appearance on Newsnight at this rate.
  • MP_SEMP_SE Posts: 3,642
    Barnesian said:

    MP_SE said:

    Pulpstar said:

    MP_SE said:
    Could Buzzfeed at least get bloody screengrabs of her old (Deleted) blog posts. The Telegraph attempted hatch job on her had no bearing on the reality of what she said.

    Hint: Use Google cache.
    Maybe she could also defend her association with bigot Jenny Tonge. Not so easy to explain away.
    Jenny Tonge said "'I was chairing, I did not make any speeches, I introduced the speakers and in the course of that meeting there was a great rant.
    'You do get ranters at these meetings and I think the best way of dealing with them - if you challenge them they go on and on and on and on - the best way is to just say 'yes, thank you very much, next speaker'.'
    O yes, of course, all a terrible misunderstanding. Just like that time she stated that if she was a Palestinian she would consider becoming a suicide bomber. Or that time she ranted about pro-Israeli lobbyists controlling the western world. Or that time she claimed Israeli soldiers were trafficking organs in Haiti. Or that time she shared links on social media claiming the Jewish lobby is out to get Corbyn.

    Quit trying to defend a vile woman.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 20,062
    On the subject of films....can I recommend to PB's right wing contingent "I, Daniel Blake" by Ken Loach.

    You'll hate it like you've never hated a film before!
  • HaroldOHaroldO Posts: 1,185
    It appears Corbyn seems unhappy about the Nissan deal going on, after whinging about a lack of industry in the country.
    Can the top Labour team keep one idea in their heads at once?
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,928

    TGOHF said:

    theakes said:

    I have reached the conclusion that yet again Don Brind is having a laugh.

    If Labour don't stand (or don't try) then a vote for the LD is a vote for Corbyn.

    And a vote for Zac is a vote for Farage. Can't imagine Farage is too popular in 70% remain Richmond.
    Though Zac was openly Brexit and hugely popular.
    Richmond was 70-30 in favour of Remain. In 2015, Brexit seemed an unlikely outcome and so having a difference of opinion with your MP simply wasn't a big deal.

    I doubt Brexit vs Remain will be the battleground this time. Most people, even in Richmond or Hampstead, have moved on. Instead, I suspect the LibDems will play on "Don't let it be Mrs May with her hard Brexit." This is likely to resonate, given the Leave-ers in Richmond are likely to be more of the EEA/Internationalist bent.

    Of course, as Zac is an Independent, he should be able to navigate this OK. But it does mean the Conservative Party has to tread lightly.
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,740
    538 has Clinton chance of victory edging down in last 24 hours.

    Can anyone explain - new polls posted per their Updates page in last 24 hours appear pretty solid for her.

  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 63,560
    Roger said:

    On the subject of films....can I recommend to PB's right wing contingent "I, Daniel Blake" by Ken Loach.

    You'll hate it like you've never hated a film before!

    He's on QT tonight (Loach I mean).
  • ChrisChris Posts: 11,783
    MikeL said:

    538 has Clinton chance of victory edging down in last 24 hours.

    Can anyone explain - new polls posted per their Updates page in last 24 hours appear pretty solid for her.

    The Survey Monkey state polls have smaller Clinton leads than 538 in a number of swing states, so that may have reduced the averages a bit. It's only a small movement, though.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    MikeL said:

    538 has Clinton chance of victory edging down in last 24 hours.

    Can anyone explain - new polls posted per their Updates page in last 24 hours appear pretty solid for her.

    538s model includes momentum, so if polls don't keep getting better there will be a fall in the percentage. Also if you look at their national average there has been a bit of a tightening.
  • MarkSeniorMarkSenior Posts: 4,699
    edited October 2016
    MP_SE said:

    Pulpstar said:

    MP_SE said:
    Could Buzzfeed at least get bloody screengrabs of her old (Deleted) blog posts. The Telegraph attempted hatch job on her had no bearing on the reality of what she said.

    Hint: Use Google cache.
    Maybe she could also defend her association with bigot Jenny Tonge. Not so easy to explain away.
    What association ?
    What is your agenda and/or motivation in these repeated insinuations against the Lib Dem Richmond candidate ? Is it religious or politically motivated or both ?
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,894
    HaroldO said:

    It appears Corbyn seems unhappy about the Nissan deal going on, after whinging about a lack of industry in the country.
    Can the top Labour team keep one idea in their heads at once?

    Personally, as a Remainer I'm glad about the Nissan deal. Don't know (yet) how much it has cost, but I'm glad to see the people of Sunderland, where I spent three happy student years, with on-going wok.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,985
    Roger said:

    On the subject of films....can I recommend to PB's right wing contingent "I, Daniel Blake" by Ken Loach.

    You'll hate it like you've never hated a film before!

    Roger, you might like a story I was told by a local in the New Forest about the late Ken Russell. One Sunday morning the local was walking past a little lake to see Russell pushing a coffin across the water and filming the result. Apparently it wasn't for any film; he just wanted to see what he could do with it.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 63,560

    HaroldO said:

    It appears Corbyn seems unhappy about the Nissan deal going on, after whinging about a lack of industry in the country.
    Can the top Labour team keep one idea in their heads at once?

    Personally, as a Remainer I'm glad about the Nissan deal. Don't know (yet) how much it has cost, but I'm glad to see the people of Sunderland, where I spent three happy student years, with on-going wok.
    Not that they deserve it. Being as they wanted out of Europe.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,894
    edited October 2016

    HaroldO said:

    It appears Corbyn seems unhappy about the Nissan deal going on, after whinging about a lack of industry in the country.
    Can the top Labour team keep one idea in their heads at once?

    Personally, as a Remainer I'm glad about the Nissan deal. Don't know (yet) how much it has cost, but I'm glad to see the people of Sunderland, where I spent three happy student years, with on-going wok.
    Not that they deserve it. Being as they wanted out of Europe.
    I dont believe in the concept of the deserving or the underserving poor. Sunderland, and the NE generally has been dumped on for many years and it's about time somehing went right for them.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 20,062
    SeanT said:

    Ishmael_X said:

    Roger said:

    A serious question. Do any of the right-wingers on PB work? Reading PB it doesn't seem like it.

    The most prolific posters are those with verifiable real-life achievements to their name. How that works I have no idea, unless you can subcontract thriller-writing to the Indians for 3 rupees a day, like with software.
    I'm between thrillers. But I have an idea, a location, a plot, for a new thriller, and I will begin writing in January, so I will be much less visible on here (I hope)

    Incidentally, if Roger's still about, the would-be makers of The Ice Twins movie, in Hollywood, have found a director.

    On the good side, he's made some critically well received movies, and even been selected at Cannes by the jury etc

    On the bad side, his last movie, budgeted at about $8m, made $5000
    If you give me a couple of initials I'll probably be able to tell you whether it's in good hands or not. Making nothing from his latest effort makes him interesting. It means someone thinks he's talented enough to see past his last flop.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    HaroldO said:

    It appears Corbyn seems unhappy about the Nissan deal going on, after whinging about a lack of industry in the country.
    Can the top Labour team keep one idea in their heads at once?

    Personally, as a Remainer I'm glad about the Nissan deal. Don't know (yet) how much it has cost, but I'm glad to see the people of Sunderland, where I spent three happy student years, with on-going wok.
    Not that they deserve it. Being as they wanted out of Europe.
    I dont believe in the concept of the deserving or the underserving poor. Sunderland, and the NE generally has been dumped on for many years and it's about time somehing went right for them.
    Not sure that an "ongoing wok" will make much difference, but I guess you know better than me ;)
  • No_Offence_AlanNo_Offence_Alan Posts: 4,709
    edited October 2016

    HaroldO said:

    It appears Corbyn seems unhappy about the Nissan deal going on, after whinging about a lack of industry in the country.
    Can the top Labour team keep one idea in their heads at once?

    Personally, as a Remainer I'm glad about the Nissan deal. Don't know (yet) how much it has cost, but I'm glad to see the people of Sunderland, where I spent three happy student years, with on-going wok.
    Not that they deserve it. Being as they wanted out of Europe.
    I dont believe in the concept of the deserving or the underserving poor. Sunderland, and the NE generally has been dumped on for many years and it's about time somehing went right for them.
    Do you believe in the concept of the deserving or the undeserving rich?

  • PongPong Posts: 4,693
    edited October 2016
    Pulpstar said:

    Pong said:

    https://twitter.com/maitlis/status/791705679648137216

    Well he found one black Trump voter in New Hampshire!

    That's hilarious. A prepubescent english voice on the other end of the line. At 3am.

    "...and are you educated or uneducated?"
    Actually it is quite interesting he found a black Trump voter in a few calls.

    Statistically unlikely I think.
    Depends on how the question was asked etc. Race is a problematic category in sociology/psephology.

    To a 12 year old it might be a dead simple question "are you black or white or hispanish?" -But if he was to ask every registered voter in the US that question, the %'ages wouldn't tally with the census stats.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 20,062

    Roger said:

    On the subject of films....can I recommend to PB's right wing contingent "I, Daniel Blake" by Ken Loach.

    You'll hate it like you've never hated a film before!

    Roger, you might like a story I was told by a local in the New Forest about the late Ken Russell. One Sunday morning the local was walking past a little lake to see Russell pushing a coffin across the water and filming the result. Apparently it wasn't for any film; he just wanted to see what he could do with it.
    That's a nice story about one of the UK's most imaginative film makers. Unfortunately one who later lost his way.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,654

    HaroldO said:

    It appears Corbyn seems unhappy about the Nissan deal going on, after whinging about a lack of industry in the country.
    Can the top Labour team keep one idea in their heads at once?

    Personally, as a Remainer I'm glad about the Nissan deal. Don't know (yet) how much it has cost, but I'm glad to see the people of Sunderland, where I spent three happy student years, with on-going wok.
    Not that they deserve it. Being as they wanted out of Europe.
    I dont believe in the concept of the deserving or the underserving poor. Sunderland, and the NE generally has been dumped on for many years and it's about time somehing went right for them.
    Do you believe in the concept of the deserving or the undeserving rich?

    Wealth and "deservingness" aren't really related tbh, for rich or poor.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 20,062

    Roger said:

    On the subject of films....can I recommend to PB's right wing contingent "I, Daniel Blake" by Ken Loach.

    You'll hate it like you've never hated a film before!

    He's on QT tonight (Loach I mean).
    Thanks I'll watch it. I think he's somewhere to the left of Corbyn but good publicity for his film.
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 3,148
    rcs1000 said:

    TGOHF said:

    theakes said:

    I have reached the conclusion that yet again Don Brind is having a laugh.

    If Labour don't stand (or don't try) then a vote for the LD is a vote for Corbyn.

    And a vote for Zac is a vote for Farage. Can't imagine Farage is too popular in 70% remain Richmond.
    Though Zac was openly Brexit and hugely popular.
    Richmond was 70-30 in favour of Remain. In 2015, Brexit seemed an unlikely outcome and so having a difference of opinion with your MP simply wasn't a big deal.

    I doubt Brexit vs Remain will be the battleground this time. Most people, even in Richmond or Hampstead, have moved on. Instead, I suspect the LibDems will play on "Don't let it be Mrs May with her hard Brexit." This is likely to resonate, given the Leave-ers in Richmond are likely to be more of the EEA/Internationalist bent.

    Of course, as Zac is an Independent, he should be able to navigate this OK. But it does mean the Conservative Party has to tread lightly.
    I agree with your first remark, about Brexit seeming an unlikely outcome & therefore a difference of opinion with your MP probably wasn't a big deal.

    But now that the outcome is Brexit, having an MP who voted for it might not be at all palatable. Maybe most people have moved on, but it may well rankle with some.

    OTOH, I don't see how the by-election can exert any pressure to remove the PM. It might make her task more difficult, but would your suggested slogan really have any traction?

    (Good evening, everyone)
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Pong said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Pong said:

    https://twitter.com/maitlis/status/791705679648137216

    Well he found one black Trump voter in New Hampshire!

    That's hilarious. A prepubescent english voice on the other end of the line. At 3am.

    "...and are you educated or uneducated?"
    Actually it is quite interesting he found a black Trump voter in a few calls.

    Statistically unlikely I think.
    Depends on how the question was asked etc. Race is a problematic category in sociology/psephology.

    To a 12 year old it might be a dead simple question "are you black or white or hispanish?" -But if he was to ask every registered voter in the US that question, the %'ages wouldn't tally with the census stats.
    Part of the issue with Gallup's 2012 performance was failure to accurately identify racial groupings.
  • philiphphiliph Posts: 4,704
    So what is the ace up Zacs' sleeve?

    I promised you I would resign if Heathrow expansion was proposed. I did.

    I'm a remainer? I told you that - I have priciples and stick to them.

    I am independent minded, I have the interests of the Richmond community at heart. I am not in this to be a party whipping boy, with me, I do as I say.

    Contrast with other politicians.
  • ThomasNasheThomasNashe Posts: 5,331
    Roger said:

    On the subject of films....can I recommend to PB's right wing contingent "I, Daniel Blake" by Ken Loach.

    You'll hate it like you've never hated a film before!

    While it's certainly worth watching, it wasn't quite the state of the nation film I thought it was going to be.
  • ThomasNasheThomasNashe Posts: 5,331
    Roger said:

    Roger said:

    On the subject of films....can I recommend to PB's right wing contingent "I, Daniel Blake" by Ken Loach.

    You'll hate it like you've never hated a film before!

    Roger, you might like a story I was told by a local in the New Forest about the late Ken Russell. One Sunday morning the local was walking past a little lake to see Russell pushing a coffin across the water and filming the result. Apparently it wasn't for any film; he just wanted to see what he could do with it.
    That's a nice story about one of the UK's most imaginative film makers. Unfortunately one who later lost his way.
    Something of an understatement! He was certainly a talent, but seemed to fatally lack a self-editing instinct. Still, I like 'The Music Lovers'. The great unsung talents of British cinema in my view are Derek Jarman and Terence Davies (though good to see the latter is enjoying something of a late flourish now). 'Time and the City' is one of the most profound and moving pieces of film I've ever seen.
  • PClippPClipp Posts: 2,138

    MP_SE said:


    Maybe she could also defend her association with bigot Jenny Tonge. Not so easy to explain away.

    What association ?
    What is your agenda and/or motivation in these repeated insinuations against the Lib Dem Richmond candidate ? Is it religious or politically motivated or both ?
    No answer from MP-SE so far, so we do not know. But he is remarkably persistent. Even tedious.
  • SquareRootSquareRoot Posts: 7,095
    philiph said:

    So what is the ace up Zacs' sleeve?

    I promised you I would resign if Heathrow expansion was proposed. I did.

    I'm a remainer? I told you that - I have priciples and stick to them.

    I am independent minded, I have the interests of the Richmond community at heart. I am not in this to be a party whipping boy, with me, I do as I say.

    Contrast with other politicians.

    philiph said:

    So what is the ace up Zacs' sleeve?

    I promised you I would resign if Heathrow expansion was proposed. I did.

    I'm a remainer? I told you that - I have priciples and stick to them.

    I am independent minded, I have the interests of the Richmond community at heart. I am not in this to be a party whipping boy, with me, I do as I say.

    Contrast with other politicians.

    Yup


    I am Zac
    I am filthy rich
    I can afford to lose
    No one knows how much I have done for the constituency;)

    Contrast with other hardworking MP's
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 50,291
    Don Brind as clueless as ever.
  • FeersumEnjineeyaFeersumEnjineeya Posts: 4,566
    edited October 2016
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