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    ThreeQuidderThreeQuidder Posts: 6,133

    Mr. kle4, but that simply leads to a paraphrased repetition: why do light bulbs need to be controlled via an app?

    So that you can switch off the bedroom light without having to get out of bed?
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    John_MJohn_M Posts: 7,503
    Apologies for the Twitter dump, but interesting & useful.
    https://twitter.com/MrTCHarris/status/758599660361646080
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,055
    Australia - Still not finished counting...

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/federal-election-2016/guide/herb/

    Majority of 3 at the moment. This could make it 2 or 4...
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,056
    I think this my favourite Sky News silliness since 'sadness in his eyes'.
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,334

    Mr. kle4, but that simply leads to a paraphrased repetition: why do light bulbs need to be controlled via an app?

    So that you can switch off the bedroom light without having to get out of bed?
    Exactly: or you can turn the kids lights off without yelling at them to do it themselves.

    As an aside, there's no need to spend 50 quid a bulb: go Z-Wave and get the controls mounted behind the switches.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,442
    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/jul/27/french-media-to-stop-publishing-photos-and-names-of-terrorists

    I can see the logic in not publishing propagandas videos / photos, but no names seems like a bad idea.
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    PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    Pulpstar said:

    Australia - Still not finished counting...

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/federal-election-2016/guide/herb/

    Majority of 3 at the moment. This could make it 2 or 4...

    What the hell?
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,912
    edited July 2016
    BREXIT INDEPENDENCE puts almost £12 £48 billion a year worth of Scotland's exports to Europe the UK at risk, a devastating new report has warned.

    http://www.thenational.scot/news/scotlands-12bn-exports-to-europe-are-at-risk-if-it-is-forced-to-leave-the-eu.20465
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    tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,236
    rcs1000 said:

    Random other Amazon Echo story.

    I noticed by daughter was racing through her maths homework in no time. Had I bred a maths genius?

    No. She'd just discovered that she could ask "Alexa, what's 144 divided by 12".

    What does it say if you ask it "what is the square root of 144?"
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    Carolus_RexCarolus_Rex Posts: 1,414

    Idea... if the May 2017 election produces results as per:

    Con 385
    Lab 165
    SNP 55
    Others 35

    And Labour are still a mess with Corbyn still in charge but unable to get a Shadow Cabinet together, still less a full front bench...

    What's to stop the Tories spinning off an "Opposition Conservatives" party?

    :)

    Too clever by three quarters.
    Imagine PMQs though. "I've had an email from Theresa of SW1".
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,334
    tlg86 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Random other Amazon Echo story.

    I noticed by daughter was racing through her maths homework in no time. Had I bred a maths genius?

    No. She'd just discovered that she could ask "Alexa, what's 144 divided by 12".

    What does it say if you ask it "what is the square root of 144?"
    Err: it says 12.
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    DaveDaveDaveDave Posts: 76
    And still Trump leads in the Polls. Is Donald the new Jezza: The worse the media say about him, the more support he gets?
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    rural_voterrural_voter Posts: 2,038
    You and Yours is currently featuring bookies behaving badly.

    Especially it seems unreasonable T&Cs and failure to disclose that two brands are owned by the very same company.
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,056
    Mr. Urquhart, the names thing is fine. We know they're all called Dave ;)

    Mr. Quidder, bone idle laziness! Move your rotund posterior, man!
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    TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 40,446
    I'm sure after all the pieties expressed over Owen 'Smasher' Smith, everyone would like to take a moment to bloviate sanctimoniously over the good, old Express.

    'Sturgeon kicked in teeth as SNP's guardian plan for Scots ruled UNLAWFUL by Supreme Court'

    http://tinyurl.com/zz8dl4y
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,334

    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/jul/27/french-media-to-stop-publishing-photos-and-names-of-terrorists

    I can see the logic in not publishing propagandas videos / photos, but no names seems like a bad idea.

    I posted a link to a Department of Justice (in the US) study into lone wolf terrorists - it said that they were primarily motivated by seeing their name in lights, and that you could significantly cut the number of attacks by denying perpetrators the oxygen of publicity.
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    tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,236
    rcs1000 said:

    tlg86 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Random other Amazon Echo story.

    I noticed by daughter was racing through her maths homework in no time. Had I bred a maths genius?

    No. She'd just discovered that she could ask "Alexa, what's 144 divided by 12".

    What does it say if you ask it "what is the square root of 144?"
    Err: it says 12.
    So only half marks then....
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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,601

    BREXIT INDEPENDENCE puts almost £12 £48 billion a year worth of Scotland's exports to Europe the UK at risk, a devastating new report has warned.

    http://www.thenational.scot/news/scotlands-12bn-exports-to-europe-are-at-risk-if-it-is-forced-to-leave-the-eu.20465

    It is why the argument that it is important for Scotland to remain in the EU/single market is absurd. There is only 1 single market that really counts for Scotland and that is the one it has with rUK.
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,334
    tlg86 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    tlg86 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Random other Amazon Echo story.

    I noticed by daughter was racing through her maths homework in no time. Had I bred a maths genius?

    No. She'd just discovered that she could ask "Alexa, what's 144 divided by 12".

    What does it say if you ask it "what is the square root of 144?"
    Err: it says 12.
    So only half marks then....
    Doh. Of course.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,176

    Totnes (South Hams) result:
    LDEM: 44.2% (+22.6)
    GRN: 27.1% (-14.4)
    IND: 21.3% (+21.3)
    CON: 7.4% (-9.9)
    Labour didn't stand.

    Lib Dem GAIN from Labour.

    I sometimes wonder if the politics of the south west should be treated as distinct as those of Scotland. It moves to its own tunes.
    Frankly I was just amazed Labour had a seat to lose in the first place.

    Looks like they only had 10 or 11 parliamentary seats even back in 1997. Think it's 4 now, but Bristol does skew the numbers. Council wise I don't know that it's too much better?
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    John_MJohn_M Posts: 7,503
    DaveDave said:

    And still Trump leads in the Polls. Is Donald the new Jezza: The worse the media say about him, the more support he gets?

    The issue is that Trump's base don't like the liberal media. The more hysterical they become, the more support he gets.

    In this narrow sense, it is like Brexit. If some bien-pensant wanker that you already despise tells you you're a racist Little Englander, it's hardly going to change your mind.
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    edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,161
    kle4 said:

    GIN1138 said:

    When are we expecting the governments Brexit plan to be unveiled? Con conference?

    The government has a Brexit plan???
    It's working on it now.
    The most important part's the title, they should have that done in time for the party conference.
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    HurstLlamaHurstLlama Posts: 9,098
    I read in a national newspaper yesterday that churches were on high level terrorist alert. I popped into my local one this morning to check (actually I needed another copy of the parish magazine). I am pleased to be able to say that the anti-terrorism measures consisted of a notice saying in cold weather please close the main door and the two ladies on flower arranging roster going about their normal work. Why do newspapers keep printing piffle?

    On a serious note is anyone else having problems getting the comments to load over the past few days? It can sometimes take me a dozen or more attempts to refresh the page before the comments finally load. Its is getting a bit tedious.
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,684
    So been putting out some questions about Junker appointing Barnier as the Commission's Brexit chief. So far the reaction is all negative, on both sides of the channel. The main opinion is that it is now clear that the Commission doesn't intend to negotiate in good faith and the nations of Europe will have to either sack the commission on a classic EU fudge or just sideline them.

    I've also asked about the 7 year emergency brake. No one knows what it means in practice. It seems to theoretical to work in reality. How can a country pull the trigger and then overnight bring in visas and quotas to immigration? If that's what it means. Most people agree that free movement in both senses needs reform, Schengen I'd a security risk and free movement of labour shouldn't be free movement to claim benefits.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,176

    I'm sure after all the pieties expressed over Owen 'Smasher' Smith, everyone would like to take a moment to bloviate sanctimoniously over the good, old Express.

    'Sturgeon kicked in teeth as SNP's guardian plan for Scots ruled UNLAWFUL by Supreme Court'

    http://tinyurl.com/zz8dl4y

    Certainly, an unpleasant headline. ALthough I think the Smith one was more just amusing due to, apparently, the other meanings of 'smashing' someone thesedays.
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    Paul_BedfordshirePaul_Bedfordshire Posts: 3,632
    edited July 2016
    Ishmael_X said:

    Jihadi Elephants stoning tourist to death now.

    http://dailym.ai/2abLMHu

    Seven year old girl killed in accident. What a very amusing post.
    It was meant to be a satirical comment about that Sky report and similar terrorist paranoia.

    Alas satire dosent tend to work online - Poes Law
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    David_EvershedDavid_Evershed Posts: 6,506
    rcs1000 said:

    Random other Amazon Echo story.

    I noticed by daughter was racing through her maths homework in no time. Had I bred a maths genius?

    No. She'd just discovered that she could ask "Alexa, what's 144 divided by 12".

    Your daugther is a budding entrepreneur. :)
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,056
    Merkel refuses to alter Germany's refugee policy:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36912141

    I wonder if this'll help the AfD.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,390
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    tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,236
    rcs1000 said:

    tlg86 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    tlg86 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Random other Amazon Echo story.

    I noticed by daughter was racing through her maths homework in no time. Had I bred a maths genius?

    No. She'd just discovered that she could ask "Alexa, what's 144 divided by 12".

    What does it say if you ask it "what is the square root of 144?"
    Err: it says 12.
    So only half marks then....
    Doh. Of course.
    The point is such things can help children only so far. While I think it's useful to be able to do mental arithmetic what really matters is understanding the principles involved so that they can be applied to more complicated situations.
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    John_MJohn_M Posts: 7,503

    I'm sure after all the pieties expressed over Owen 'Smasher' Smith, everyone would like to take a moment to bloviate sanctimoniously over the good, old Express.

    'Sturgeon kicked in teeth as SNP's guardian plan for Scots ruled UNLAWFUL by Supreme Court'

    http://tinyurl.com/zz8dl4y

    In the last week the Express was lauding the Q2 GDP figures as evidence of a post-Brexit boom, the day before reporting a voodoo poll with 98% of respondents wanting to exit the EU RIGHT NOW.

    I've nothing left to give. The Express are the Right's mad.,senile aunt that we keep locked in the attic and feed exclusively on fish heads. She won't ever shut up.

    Enough bloviation for ya?
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,850

    Merkel refuses to alter Germany's refugee policy:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36912141

    I wonder if this'll help the AfD.

    Things you read too rarely in the UK press: Germany is calm, Merkel is popular, perpetrators of attacks arrived before her refugee gambit.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,055
    PlatoSaid said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Australia - Still not finished counting...

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/federal-election-2016/guide/herb/

    Majority of 3 at the moment. This could make it 2 or 4...

    What the hell?
    Actually its even better than that, the majority is only a single seat (De Facto) as the speaker is currently a liberal..
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,442

    Merkel refuses to alter Germany's refugee policy:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36912141

    I wonder if this'll help the AfD.

    Stupid woman.
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    FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,486
    John_M said:

    I'm sure after all the pieties expressed over Owen 'Smasher' Smith, everyone would like to take a moment to bloviate sanctimoniously over the good, old Express.

    'Sturgeon kicked in teeth as SNP's guardian plan for Scots ruled UNLAWFUL by Supreme Court'

    http://tinyurl.com/zz8dl4y

    In the last week the Express was lauding the Q2 GDP figures as evidence of a post-Brexit boom, the day before reporting a voodoo poll with 98% of respondents wanting to exit the EU RIGHT NOW.

    I've nothing left to give. The Express are the Right's mad.,senile aunt that we keep locked in the attic and feed exclusively on fish heads. She won't ever shut up.

    Enough bloviation for ya?
    You were meant to say it's shocking they they are normalising violence against women
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    chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    Switzerland - EU immigration curb talks continue;

    http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-swiss-eu-idUKKCN108188?il=0
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,334
    MaxPB said:

    So been putting out some questions about Junker appointing Barnier as the Commission's Brexit chief. So far the reaction is all negative, on both sides of the channel. The main opinion is that it is now clear that the Commission doesn't intend to negotiate in good faith and the nations of Europe will have to either sack the commission on a classic EU fudge or just sideline them.

    I've also asked about the 7 year emergency brake. No one knows what it means in practice. It seems to theoretical to work in reality. How can a country pull the trigger and then overnight bring in visas and quotas to immigration? If that's what it means. Most people agree that free movement in both senses needs reform, Schengen I'd a security risk and free movement of labour shouldn't be free movement to claim benefits.

    I think Mrs May has already decided to do the bulk of the negotiating bilaterally. Frankly, if she gets Merkel, Rajoy, Remzi and Hollande Juppe on side, then the rest will likely fall into line.
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,912

    I'm sure after all the pieties expressed over Owen 'Smasher' Smith, everyone would like to take a moment to bloviate sanctimoniously over the good, old Express.

    'Sturgeon kicked in teeth as SNP's guardian plan for Scots ruled UNLAWFUL by Supreme Court'

    http://tinyurl.com/zz8dl4y

    What is the alternative meaning for 'Kicked in the teeth' that provided the amusement over the 'smash her' comment?
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,678

    Merkel refuses to alter Germany's refugee policy:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36912141

    I wonder if this'll help the AfD.

    Things you read too rarely in the UK press: Germany is calm, Merkel is popular, perpetrators of attacks arrived before her refugee gambit.
    What's the German word for Schadenfreude? :)
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,056
    Mr. Eagles, Merkel may be popular in Germany, for now. But her siren call has ramifications far beyond the borders of her own country.
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    ThreeQuidderThreeQuidder Posts: 6,133
    rcs1000 said:

    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/jul/27/french-media-to-stop-publishing-photos-and-names-of-terrorists

    I can see the logic in not publishing propagandas videos / photos, but no names seems like a bad idea.

    I posted a link to a Department of Justice (in the US) study into lone wolf terrorists - it said that they were primarily motivated by seeing their name in lights, and that you could significantly cut the number of attacks by denying perpetrators the oxygen of publicity.
    That reminds me of Asimov's Moron Decree.
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,684

    Merkel refuses to alter Germany's refugee policy:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36912141

    I wonder if this'll help the AfD.

    Things you read too rarely in the UK press: Germany is calm, Merkel is popular, perpetrators of attacks arrived before her refugee gambit.
    Hmm, Germany is not that calm. A party to the right of even UKIP could become the opposition to the grand coalition after the election. I'm not sure that's a great development.
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    ThreeQuidderThreeQuidder Posts: 6,133

    Mr. Urquhart, the names thing is fine. We know they're all called Dave ;)

    Mr. Quidder, bone idle laziness! Move your rotund posterior, man!

    This is why we invested in bedside lamps :p
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,176

    Mr. Eagles, Merkel may be popular in Germany, for now. But her siren call has ramifications far beyond the borders of her own country.

    Not to mention it gave the lie to the supposed German dislike for unilateral decisions which affect the rest of Europe.
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,684
    rcs1000 said:

    MaxPB said:

    So been putting out some questions about Junker appointing Barnier as the Commission's Brexit chief. So far the reaction is all negative, on both sides of the channel. The main opinion is that it is now clear that the Commission doesn't intend to negotiate in good faith and the nations of Europe will have to either sack the commission on a classic EU fudge or just sideline them.

    I've also asked about the 7 year emergency brake. No one knows what it means in practice. It seems to theoretical to work in reality. How can a country pull the trigger and then overnight bring in visas and quotas to immigration? If that's what it means. Most people agree that free movement in both senses needs reform, Schengen I'd a security risk and free movement of labour shouldn't be free movement to claim benefits.

    I think Mrs May has already decided to do the bulk of the negotiating bilaterally. Frankly, if she gets Merkel, Rajoy, Remzi and Hollande Juppe on side, then the rest will likely fall into line.
    Surely Renzi is another that may not be long for this world. Doesn't look like his referendum will succeed and then he might be done for.
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    tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,236

    Merkel refuses to alter Germany's refugee policy:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36912141

    I wonder if this'll help the AfD.

    Things you read too rarely in the UK press: Germany is calm, Merkel is popular, perpetrators of attacks arrived before her refugee gambit.
    Do you include Cologne in that last bit?
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    MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034

    Merkel refuses to alter Germany's refugee policy:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36912141

    I wonder if this'll help the AfD.

    Things you read too rarely in the UK press: Germany is calm, Merkel is popular, perpetrators of attacks arrived before her refugee gambit.
    What's the German word for Schadenfreude? :)
    Entrepreneur? :)

    The Germans do create some wonderful words. One of my current favorites - particularly apposite in the safety communication field - is Schilderwald

    http://www.csu.de/generated/pics/Schilderwald_3c79bcd63e.jpg

    http://betterthanenglish.com/schilderwald-german/
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,912
    rcs1000 said:

    MaxPB said:

    So been putting out some questions about Junker appointing Barnier as the Commission's Brexit chief. So far the reaction is all negative, on both sides of the channel. The main opinion is that it is now clear that the Commission doesn't intend to negotiate in good faith and the nations of Europe will have to either sack the commission on a classic EU fudge or just sideline them.

    I've also asked about the 7 year emergency brake. No one knows what it means in practice. It seems to theoretical to work in reality. How can a country pull the trigger and then overnight bring in visas and quotas to immigration? If that's what it means. Most people agree that free movement in both senses needs reform, Schengen I'd a security risk and free movement of labour shouldn't be free movement to claim benefits.

    I think Mrs May has already decided to do the bulk of the negotiating bilaterally. Frankly, if she gets Merkel, Rajoy, Remzi and Hollande Juppe on side, then the rest will likely fall into line.
    It's the only method that's going to work. The Eurocracy don't have to face electorates concerned about barriers to car or wine exports - the Eurocrats role is to 'preserve the one true faith and punish the heretic' - the politicians, fortunately for us, have to get re-elected.....
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    John_MJohn_M Posts: 7,503
    Freggles said:

    John_M said:

    I'm sure after all the pieties expressed over Owen 'Smasher' Smith, everyone would like to take a moment to bloviate sanctimoniously over the good, old Express.

    'Sturgeon kicked in teeth as SNP's guardian plan for Scots ruled UNLAWFUL by Supreme Court'

    http://tinyurl.com/zz8dl4y

    In the last week the Express was lauding the Q2 GDP figures as evidence of a post-Brexit boom, the day before reporting a voodoo poll with 98% of respondents wanting to exit the EU RIGHT NOW.

    I've nothing left to give. The Express are the Right's mad.,senile aunt that we keep locked in the attic and feed exclusively on fish heads. She won't ever shut up.

    Enough bloviation for ya?
    You were meant to say it's shocking they they are normalising violence against women
    The excitement on here yesterday was all about the double entendre of 'smash'.

    The excitement on Twitter was due to the usual collection of fuckwits whose goal in life is to be outraged by something, anything.
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,056
    Mr. Max, the news the other day said it was his opposition who wanted a referendum on eurozone membership...

    Mr. kle4, indeed. One wonders just what Merkel's approval rating is in Greece. Must be about -99%.
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    nunununu Posts: 6,024

    MaxPB said:

    Contains NSFW language but wow from Martin Brunt of Sky News

    https://twitter.com/BobbyFaghihi/status/758597388776898560

    Summary for those of us without the ability to watch it at work?
    He goes into a church saying doesn't seem to be any security, and comes out a few minutes later to say there are about 12 people in there and if I was a terrorist I could have killed them all...to which the people watching says some very naughty words.
    It is ridiculous "reporting".
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    Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    Q: Are Owen Smith's chances of winning the leadership increased or decreased if the judge rules Corbyn off the ballot?
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,850
    tlg86 said:

    Merkel refuses to alter Germany's refugee policy:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36912141

    I wonder if this'll help the AfD.

    Things you read too rarely in the UK press: Germany is calm, Merkel is popular, perpetrators of attacks arrived before her refugee gambit.
    Do you include Cologne in that last bit?
    No. I was talking about the terrorist attacks.

    But re the Köln attacks.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/cologne-only-three-out-of-58-men-arrested-in-connection-with-mass-sex-attack-on-new-years-eve-are-a6874201.html
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    tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,236

    Q: Are Owen Smith's chances of winning the leadership increased or decreased if the judge rules Corbyn off the ballot?

    Decreased. I'd imagine the great and the good will come out of the woodwork if the process has to start over.
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    Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    John_M said:

    Freggles said:

    John_M said:

    I'm sure after all the pieties expressed over Owen 'Smasher' Smith, everyone would like to take a moment to bloviate sanctimoniously over the good, old Express.

    'Sturgeon kicked in teeth as SNP's guardian plan for Scots ruled UNLAWFUL by Supreme Court'

    http://tinyurl.com/zz8dl4y

    In the last week the Express was lauding the Q2 GDP figures as evidence of a post-Brexit boom, the day before reporting a voodoo poll with 98% of respondents wanting to exit the EU RIGHT NOW.

    I've nothing left to give. The Express are the Right's mad.,senile aunt that we keep locked in the attic and feed exclusively on fish heads. She won't ever shut up.

    Enough bloviation for ya?
    You were meant to say it's shocking they they are normalising violence against women
    The excitement on here yesterday was all about the double entendre of 'smash'.

    The excitement on Twitter was due to the usual collection of fuckwits whose goal in life is to be outraged by something, anything.
    No one was really taking the double entendre of smash seriously. That was just TSE on one of his Urban Dictionary adventures.

    The actual case against Smith [still faux outrage imho] was that "heels" was a specific reference to Theresa May, thus converting a standard metaphor into something more personal. That doesn't apply here as Sturgeon isn't famous for her teeth.
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    Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 25,707

    I'm sure after all the pieties expressed over Owen 'Smasher' Smith, everyone would like to take a moment to bloviate sanctimoniously over the good, old Express.

    'Sturgeon kicked in teeth as SNP's guardian plan for Scots ruled UNLAWFUL by Supreme Court'

    http://tinyurl.com/zz8dl4y

    I thought the outrage over smashing *ahem* Theresa May was overdone, but this isn't The Express declaring their own intent to 'kick Nicola Sturgeon in the teeth'. Just using a metaphor, apposite or otherwise, to describe a setback.
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    ThrakThrak Posts: 494
    edited July 2016
    John_M said:

    DaveDave said:

    And still Trump leads in the Polls. Is Donald the new Jezza: The worse the media say about him, the more support he gets?

    The issue is that Trump's base don't like the liberal media. The more hysterical they become, the more support he gets.

    In this narrow sense, it is like Brexit. If some bien-pensant wanker that you already despise tells you you're a racist Little Englander, it's hardly going to change your mind.
    That's not the aim. As per Corbyn, make his cultists evervmore angry and deranged and the centrists and sensible conservatives start to peel away. I just followed a Trump interview this morning about this and it's increasingly incoherent; feeding into the narrative that he is a danger to the USA. The tax releases is another issue, to point out how unamerican he is. It's probably worth a small flutter on Pence as president, given the direction of travel.

    The Democratic convention (and it's clear that posters here aren't following it) is the optimistic, patriotic version, to stand against the GOP project terror, whereby they learn completely the wrong lessons of 'leave' winning. Obama even quoted Reagan and the 'shining city on a hill' last night. The message, that true conservatives do not support Trump. Peel enough of them away and he's left with no path to 270 EV.

    I am very wary of supposed pro Trump social media by the way, the Russian troll army has been very active in his support. I crossed swords with the, over Ukraine, they seek to close down debate and flood the internet.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,850

    Q: Are Owen Smith's chances of winning the leadership increased or decreased if the judge rules Corbyn off the ballot?

    Depends entirely on if the contest is reopened to new candidates requiring 51 MPs/MEPs
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    Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    tlg86 said:

    Q: Are Owen Smith's chances of winning the leadership increased or decreased if the judge rules Corbyn off the ballot?

    Decreased. I'd imagine the great and the good will come out of the woodwork if the process has to start over.
    Clive Lewis too.
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,684

    tlg86 said:

    Merkel refuses to alter Germany's refugee policy:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36912141

    I wonder if this'll help the AfD.

    Things you read too rarely in the UK press: Germany is calm, Merkel is popular, perpetrators of attacks arrived before her refugee gambit.
    Do you include Cologne in that last bit?
    No. I was talking about the terrorist attacks.

    But re the Köln attacks.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/cologne-only-three-out-of-58-men-arrested-in-connection-with-mass-sex-attack-on-new-years-eve-are-a6874201.html
    Surely a failure by the police to catch the perpetrators.
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    Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039

    Q: Are Owen Smith's chances of winning the leadership increased or decreased if the judge rules Corbyn off the ballot?

    Depends entirely on if the contest is reopened to new candidates requiring 51 MPs/MEPs
    Surely no sensible judgment could do otherwise? But then no sensible judgment could find against Corbyn, imo. Which is probably why I am not a lawyer.
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    taffystaffys Posts: 9,753
    ''Hmm, Germany is not that calm. ''

    One man's grand coalition is another man's one party state.
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    John_MJohn_M Posts: 7,503
    MaxPB said:

    tlg86 said:

    Merkel refuses to alter Germany's refugee policy:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36912141

    I wonder if this'll help the AfD.

    Things you read too rarely in the UK press: Germany is calm, Merkel is popular, perpetrators of attacks arrived before her refugee gambit.
    Do you include Cologne in that last bit?
    No. I was talking about the terrorist attacks.

    But re the Köln attacks.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/cologne-only-three-out-of-58-men-arrested-in-connection-with-mass-sex-attack-on-new-years-eve-are-a6874201.html
    Surely a failure by the police to catch the perpetrators.
    Oh, the women probably made it up. You know what they're like. /facepalm.
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    JohnLoonyJohnLoony Posts: 1,790
    MTimT said:

    Merkel refuses to alter Germany's refugee policy:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36912141

    I wonder if this'll help the AfD.

    Things you read too rarely in the UK press: Germany is calm, Merkel is popular, perpetrators of attacks arrived before her refugee gambit.
    What's the German word for Schadenfreude? :)
    Entrepreneur? :)

    The Germans do create some wonderful words. One of my current favorites - particularly apposite in the safety communication field - is Schilderwald

    http://www.csu.de/generated/pics/Schilderwald_3c79bcd63e.jpg

    http://betterthanenglish.com/schilderwald-german/
    I was in a Germanic mood when I invented a word. I don't call it a "thunderstorm" any more, I call it a flashbangsoggykerfuffle.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,390
    Thrak said:

    snip

    How do you explain Trump's record high national poll numbers?
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    Paul_BedfordshirePaul_Bedfordshire Posts: 3,632
    edited July 2016

    John_M said:

    Freggles said:

    John_M said:

    I'm sure after all the pieties expressed over Owen 'Smasher' Smith, everyone would like to take a moment to bloviate sanctimoniously over the good, old Express.

    'Sturgeon kicked in teeth as SNP's guardian plan for Scots ruled UNLAWFUL by Supreme Court'

    http://tinyurl.com/zz8dl4y

    In the last week the Express was lauding the Q2 GDP figures as evidence of a post-Brexit boom, the day before reporting a voodoo poll with 98% of respondents wanting to exit the EU RIGHT NOW.

    I've nothing left to give. The Express are the Right's mad.,senile aunt that we keep locked in the attic and feed exclusively on fish heads. She won't ever shut up.

    Enough bloviation for ya?
    You were meant to say it's shocking they they are normalising violence against women
    The excitement on here yesterday was all about the double entendre of 'smash'.

    The excitement on Twitter was due to the usual collection of fuckwits whose goal in life is to be outraged by something, anything.
    No one was really taking the double entendre of smash seriously. That was just TSE on one of his Urban Dictionary adventures.

    The actual case against Smith [still faux outrage imho] was that "heels" was a specific reference to Theresa May, thus converting a standard metaphor into something more personal. That doesn't apply here as Sturgeon isn't famous for her teeth.
    kick in the teeth is also a very common colloquialism and is rarely if ever used in its literal sense.

    Similar to saying someone is F***** rarely if ever implies that they have just been copulating.

    The Smith phrase isnt to my knowledge a well known colloquialism and the reference to heels is referring to her kitten heel trademark. It just came across as expressing a real dislike of her.
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    Ishmael_XIshmael_X Posts: 3,664

    Q: Are Owen Smith's chances of winning the leadership increased or decreased if the judge rules Corbyn off the ballot?

    Depends entirely on if the contest is reopened to new candidates requiring 51 MPs/MEPs
    I think it will have to be. All this natural justice-type law is a mystery to me, but I think the only order the Court can make is to tell the NEC to go away tae think again and get it right this time, which means a new contest. In which case would Smith necessarily even get enough nominations this time round, if there's more, and more serious, contenders to be smashed back on their heels?
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    AnorakAnorak Posts: 6,621
    edited July 2016
    MaxPB said:

    tlg86 said:

    Merkel refuses to alter Germany's refugee policy:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36912141

    I wonder if this'll help the AfD.

    Things you read too rarely in the UK press: Germany is calm, Merkel is popular, perpetrators of attacks arrived before her refugee gambit.
    Do you include Cologne in that last bit?
    No. I was talking about the terrorist attacks.

    But re the Köln attacks.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/cologne-only-three-out-of-58-men-arrested-in-connection-with-mass-sex-attack-on-new-years-eve-are-a6874201.html
    Surely a failure by the police to catch the perpetrators.
    The NSA are reported to be working on a version of Pokemon GO which triggers when a phone camera recognises a person on the watch list.

    Gotta catch 'em all.
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    John_MJohn_M Posts: 7,503
    edited July 2016
    Nobel prize winning economist opines on the Euro, touches briefly on Brexit:

    http://nyti.ms/2afQdyS
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,874
    Alexa, give me a Brexit plan.
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    PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383

    John_M said:

    Freggles said:

    John_M said:

    I'm sure after all the pieties expressed over Owen 'Smasher' Smith, everyone would like to take a moment to bloviate sanctimoniously over the good, old Express.

    'Sturgeon kicked in teeth as SNP's guardian plan for Scots ruled UNLAWFUL by Supreme Court'

    http://tinyurl.com/zz8dl4y

    In the last week the Express was lauding the Q2 GDP figures as evidence of a post-Brexit boom, the day before reporting a voodoo poll with 98% of respondents wanting to exit the EU RIGHT NOW.

    I've nothing left to give. The Express are the Right's mad.,senile aunt that we keep locked in the attic and feed exclusively on fish heads. She won't ever shut up.

    Enough bloviation for ya?
    You were meant to say it's shocking they they are normalising violence against women
    The excitement on here yesterday was all about the double entendre of 'smash'.

    The excitement on Twitter was due to the usual collection of fuckwits whose goal in life is to be outraged by something, anything.
    No one was really taking the double entendre of smash seriously. That was just TSE on one of his Urban Dictionary adventures.

    The actual case against Smith [still faux outrage imho] was that "heels" was a specific reference to Theresa May, thus converting a standard metaphor into something more personal. That doesn't apply here as Sturgeon isn't famous for her teeth.
    kick in the teeth is also a very common colloquialism and is rarely if ever used in its literal sense.

    Similar to saying someone is F***** rarely if ever implies that they have just been copulating.

    The Smith phrase isnt to my knowledge a well known colloquialism and the reference to heels is referring to her kitten heel trademark. It just came across as expressing a real dislike of her.
    Smash is what you do to a performance target, or a tennis shot - or mashed potato. It sounded really aggressive to me. The heels thing sounded rather personal. Maybe it's rugby slang, but it didn't feel good to me.
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    felixfelix Posts: 15,125

    I read in a national newspaper yesterday that churches were on high level terrorist alert. I popped into my local one this morning to check (actually I needed another copy of the parish magazine). I am pleased to be able to say that the anti-terrorism measures consisted of a notice saying in cold weather please close the main door and the two ladies on flower arranging roster going about their normal work. Why do newspapers keep printing piffle?

    On a serious note is anyone else having problems getting the comments to load over the past few days? It can sometimes take me a dozen or more attempts to refresh the page before the comments finally load. Its is getting a bit tedious.

    It's deliberate to foil IS inspired hacking - you know it makes sense, grin and bear it.
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    John_MJohn_M Posts: 7,503

    Alexa, give me a Brexit plan.

    "I'm sorry Dave, I can't do that".
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,684

    Alexa, give me a Brexit plan.

    Alexa - declare war with Luxembourg.
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    PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    Anorak said:

    MaxPB said:

    tlg86 said:

    Merkel refuses to alter Germany's refugee policy:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36912141

    I wonder if this'll help the AfD.

    Things you read too rarely in the UK press: Germany is calm, Merkel is popular, perpetrators of attacks arrived before her refugee gambit.
    Do you include Cologne in that last bit?
    No. I was talking about the terrorist attacks.

    But re the Köln attacks.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/cologne-only-three-out-of-58-men-arrested-in-connection-with-mass-sex-attack-on-new-years-eve-are-a6874201.html
    Surely a failure by the police to catch the perpetrators.
    The NSA are reported to be working on a version of Pokemon GO which triggers when a phone camera recognises a person on the watch list.

    Gotta catch 'em all.
    Ha! Love it
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,874
    MaxPB said:

    Merkel refuses to alter Germany's refugee policy:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36912141

    I wonder if this'll help the AfD.

    Things you read too rarely in the UK press: Germany is calm, Merkel is popular, perpetrators of attacks arrived before her refugee gambit.
    Hmm, Germany is not that calm. A party to the right of even UKIP could become the opposition to the grand coalition after the election. I'm not sure that's a great development.
    For all his faults and egoism even Farage wasn't arguing to shoot illegal refugees on sight at the border.
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    TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,388
    PlatoSaid said:

    John_M said:

    Freggles said:

    John_M said:

    I'm sure after all the pieties expressed over Owen 'Smasher' Smith, everyone would like to take a moment to bloviate sanctimoniously over the good, old Express.

    'Sturgeon kicked in teeth as SNP's guardian plan for Scots ruled UNLAWFUL by Supreme Court'

    http://tinyurl.com/zz8dl4y

    In the last week the Express was lauding the Q2 GDP figures as evidence of a post-Brexit boom, the day before reporting a voodoo poll with 98% of respondents wanting to exit the EU RIGHT NOW.

    I've nothing left to give. The Express are the Right's mad.,senile aunt that we keep locked in the attic and feed exclusively on fish heads. She won't ever shut up.

    Enough bloviation for ya?
    You were meant to say it's shocking they they are normalising violence against women
    The excitement on here yesterday was all about the double entendre of 'smash'.

    The excitement on Twitter was due to the usual collection of fuckwits whose goal in life is to be outraged by something, anything.
    No one was really taking the double entendre of smash seriously. That was just TSE on one of his Urban Dictionary adventures.

    The actual case against Smith [still faux outrage imho] was that "heels" was a specific reference to Theresa May, thus converting a standard metaphor into something more personal. That doesn't apply here as Sturgeon isn't famous for her teeth.
    kick in the teeth is also a very common colloquialism and is rarely if ever used in its literal sense.

    Similar to saying someone is F***** rarely if ever implies that they have just been copulating.

    The Smith phrase isnt to my knowledge a well known colloquialism and the reference to heels is referring to her kitten heel trademark. It just came across as expressing a real dislike of her.
    Smash is what you do to a performance target, or a tennis shot - or mashed potato. It sounded really aggressive to me. The heels thing sounded rather personal. Maybe it's rugby slang, but it didn't feel good to me.
    Trust me, to a younger generation, smash could either mean a complete demolition, or an aggressive desire for intercourse, usually in a misogynistic setting.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,715
    Labour 2016:

    Neil CoyleVerified account
    @coyleneil
    Why are Momentum cronies targeting my surgery again @jonlansman & why film people seeking my help? Last time I saw 50% fewer constituents.

    the response:

    David Miscavige ‏@__BLiP 18m18 minutes ago
    @coyleneil @jonlansman Maybe to help explain to your constituents your voting record?
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    PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383

    PlatoSaid said:

    John_M said:

    Freggles said:

    John_M said:

    I'm sure after all the pieties expressed over Owen 'Smasher' Smith, everyone would like to take a moment to bloviate sanctimoniously over the good, old Express.

    'Sturgeon kicked in teeth as SNP's guardian plan for Scots ruled UNLAWFUL by Supreme Court'

    http://tinyurl.com/zz8dl4y

    In the last week the Express was lauding the Q2 GDP figures as evidence of a post-Brexit boom, the day before reporting a voodoo poll with 98% of respondents wanting to exit the EU RIGHT NOW.

    I've nothing left to give. The Express are the Right's mad.,senile aunt that we keep locked in the attic and feed exclusively on fish heads. She won't ever shut up.

    Enough bloviation for ya?
    You were meant to say it's shocking they they are normalising violence against women
    The excitement on here yesterday was all about the double entendre of 'smash'.

    The excitement on Twitter was due to the usual collection of fuckwits whose goal in life is to be outraged by something, anything.
    No one was really taking the double entendre of smash seriously. That was just TSE on one of his Urban Dictionary adventures.

    The actual case against Smith [still faux outrage imho] was that "heels" was a specific reference to Theresa May, thus converting a standard metaphor into something more personal. That doesn't apply here as Sturgeon isn't famous for her teeth.
    kick in the teeth is also a very common colloquialism and is rarely if ever used in its literal sense.

    Similar to saying someone is F***** rarely if ever implies that they have just been copulating.

    The Smith phrase isnt to my knowledge a well known colloquialism and the reference to heels is referring to her kitten heel trademark. It just came across as expressing a real dislike of her.
    Smash is what you do to a performance target, or a tennis shot - or mashed potato. It sounded really aggressive to me. The heels thing sounded rather personal. Maybe it's rugby slang, but it didn't feel good to me.
    Trust me, to a younger generation, smash could either mean a complete demolition, or an aggressive desire for intercourse, usually in a misogynistic setting.
    OMW :open_mouth:
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,343
    edited July 2016
    On demographics, if the U.S. was 90% white like the UK rather than 69% white there is no question Trump would win when he is winning 70% of the white working class which is what the polls are now showing.
    As it is I expect the Hispanic and black vote to squeeze Hillary home to a very narrow victory
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,874
    MaxPB said:

    So been putting out some questions about Junker appointing Barnier as the Commission's Brexit chief. So far the reaction is all negative, on both sides of the channel. The main opinion is that it is now clear that the Commission doesn't intend to negotiate in good faith and the nations of Europe will have to either sack the commission on a classic EU fudge or just sideline them.

    I've also asked about the 7 year emergency brake. No one knows what it means in practice. It seems to theoretical to work in reality. How can a country pull the trigger and then overnight bring in visas and quotas to immigration? If that's what it means. Most people agree that free movement in both senses needs reform, Schengen I'd a security risk and free movement of labour shouldn't be free movement to claim benefits.

    Juncker is a colossal twat and wants to punish the UK for voting to Leave.

    The EU leaders generally do not and want a practical deal.

    #junckermustgo
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    DaveDaveDaveDave Posts: 76
    John_M said:

    DaveDave said:

    And still Trump leads in the Polls. Is Donald the new Jezza: The worse the media say about him, the more support he gets?

    The issue is that Trump's base don't like the liberal media. The more hysterical they become, the more support he gets.

    In this narrow sense, it is like Brexit. If some bien-pensant wanker that you already despise tells you you're a racist Little Englander, it's hardly going to change your mind.
    Here's hoping. Trump will be shackled as President but boot the establishment around. I am all for it.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,390

    MaxPB said:

    Merkel refuses to alter Germany's refugee policy:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36912141

    I wonder if this'll help the AfD.

    Things you read too rarely in the UK press: Germany is calm, Merkel is popular, perpetrators of attacks arrived before her refugee gambit.
    Hmm, Germany is not that calm. A party to the right of even UKIP could become the opposition to the grand coalition after the election. I'm not sure that's a great development.
    For all his faults and egoism even Farage wasn't arguing to shoot illegal refugees on sight at the border.
    An AfD spokesperson also said that Merkel would need to flee to South America soon for her own protection.
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    Ishmael_XIshmael_X Posts: 3,664
    edited July 2016

    PlatoSaid said:

    John_M said:

    Freggles said:

    John_M said:

    I'm sure after all the pieties expressed over Owen 'Smasher' Smith, everyone would like to take a moment to bloviate sanctimoniously over the good, old Express.

    'Sturgeon kicked in teeth as SNP's guardian plan for Scots ruled UNLAWFUL by Supreme Court'

    http://tinyurl.com/zz8dl4y

    In the last week the Express was lauding the Q2 GDP figures as evidence of a post-Brexit boom, the day before reporting a voodoo poll with 98% of respondents wanting to exit the EU RIGHT NOW.

    I've nothing left to give. The Express are the Right's mad.,senile aunt that we keep locked in the attic and feed exclusively on fish heads. She won't ever shut up.

    Enough bloviation for ya?
    You were meant to say it's shocking they they are normalising violence against women
    The excitement on here yesterday was all about the double entendre of 'smash'.

    The excitement on Twitter was due to the usual collection of fuckwits whose goal in life is to be outraged by something, anything.
    No one was really taking the double entendre of smash seriously. That was just TSE on one of his Urban Dictionary adventures.

    The actual case against Smith [still faux outrage imho] was that "heels" was a specific reference to Theresa May, thus converting a standard metaphor into something more personal. That doesn't apply here as Sturgeon isn't famous for her teeth.
    kick in the teeth is also a very common colloquialism and is rarely if ever used in its literal sense.

    Similar to saying someone is F***** rarely if ever implies that they have just been copulating.

    The Smith phrase isnt to my knowledge a well known colloquialism and the reference to heels is referring to her kitten heel trademark. It just came across as expressing a real dislike of her.
    Smash is what you do to a performance target, or a tennis shot - or mashed potato. It sounded really aggressive to me. The heels thing sounded rather personal. Maybe it's rugby slang, but it didn't feel good to me.
    Trust me, to a younger generation, smash could either mean a complete demolition, or an aggressive desire for intercourse, usually in a misogynistic setting.
    It also sounded faux-aggressive, which really is the worst of all possible combinations. A "Hell yes I'm tough enough" moment.
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    MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034
    edited July 2016
    rcs1000 said:

    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/jul/27/french-media-to-stop-publishing-photos-and-names-of-terrorists

    I can see the logic in not publishing propagandas videos / photos, but no names seems like a bad idea.

    I posted a link to a Department of Justice (in the US) study into lone wolf terrorists - it said that they were primarily motivated by seeing their name in lights, and that you could significantly cut the number of attacks by denying perpetrators the oxygen of publicity.
    Not just that but, as I pointed out yesterday, the bulk of the cost to society of terrorism comes from our (over)reaction to it. If we limit the publicity, we also limit that overreaction.

    It is a fine line to walk - between informing and preparing the public for resilience, and limiting the effectiveness and hence attractiveness of terrorism in the first place.
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,334
    MaxPB said:

    Alexa, give me a Brexit plan.

    Alexa - declare war with Luxembourg.
    Against whom?
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    DaveDaveDaveDave Posts: 76

    MaxPB said:

    Merkel refuses to alter Germany's refugee policy:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36912141

    I wonder if this'll help the AfD.

    Things you read too rarely in the UK press: Germany is calm, Merkel is popular, perpetrators of attacks arrived before her refugee gambit.
    Hmm, Germany is not that calm. A party to the right of even UKIP could become the opposition to the grand coalition after the election. I'm not sure that's a great development.
    For all his faults and egoism even Farage wasn't arguing to shoot illegal refugees on sight at the border.
    An AfD spokesperson also said that Merkel would need to flee to South America soon for her own protection.
    South America, the well worn path of exiting German leaders!
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,874
    John_M said:

    Alexa, give me a Brexit plan.

    "I'm sorry Dave, I can't do that".
    "What are you doing Dave?"

    "This EU referendum plan is highly irregular."
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    MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034
    kle4 said:

    We live in a world where light bulbs can be hacked.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-36903274

    Why do light bulbs need to be connected to the internet?

    So you can control them via an app. Rather than, you know, a light switch.

    Mr kle, please do get with the programme. Didn't you know that the IoT is the next great thing? ;)

    Guilty admission, we do have a Nest for our HVAC system.
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    ThrakThrak Posts: 494
    edited July 2016

    Thrak said:

    snip

    How do you explain Trump's record high national poll numbers?
    You mean like the ones for President Romney? Looking at polls during conventions is a mug's game (and that one has been highlighted more than once). Anyway, look into that tracking poll and it looks to have a house effect even larger than Rasmussen, it's early days for it though, so it may need time to settle down before we can see just how much. People could just as easily have posted this one.

    http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/polls/raba-research-24974

    Now why not? Not enough drama?
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    logical_songlogical_song Posts: 9,741
    John_M said:

    Freggles said:

    John_M said:

    I'm sure after all the pieties expressed over Owen 'Smasher' Smith, everyone would like to take a moment to bloviate sanctimoniously over the good, old Express.

    'Sturgeon kicked in teeth as SNP's guardian plan for Scots ruled UNLAWFUL by Supreme Court'

    http://tinyurl.com/zz8dl4y

    In the last week the Express was lauding the Q2 GDP figures as evidence of a post-Brexit boom, the day before reporting a voodoo poll with 98% of respondents wanting to exit the EU RIGHT NOW.

    I've nothing left to give. The Express are the Right's mad.,senile aunt that we keep locked in the attic and feed exclusively on fish heads. She won't ever shut up.

    Enough bloviation for ya?
    You were meant to say it's shocking they they are normalising violence against women
    The excitement on here yesterday was all about the double entendre of 'smash'.

    The excitement on Twitter was due to the usual collection of fuckwits whose goal in life is to be outraged by something, anything.
    You sound outraged.
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,678
    Ishmael_X said:


    It also sounded faux-aggressive, which really is the worst of all possible combinations. A "Hell yes I'm tough enough" moment.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpZkPf7ogDc
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,684
    rcs1000 said:

    MaxPB said:

    Alexa, give me a Brexit plan.

    Alexa - declare war with Luxembourg.
    Against whom?
    "Stick it up their Junker"
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    MortimerMortimer Posts: 13,969
    rcs1000 said:

    Ishmael_X said:

    Sometimes I think I was born in the wrong century.

    Surely: use a light switch. If the bulb fails, put in a new one. If there aren't many left, buy more.

    I see no need for the insertion of the interweb at any stage (perhaps excepting the purchasing part).

    It means that if you are in Tokyo, you can turn on the bedroom lights back home in Weybridge in order to disconcert the burglars.

    Seems rather a good plan, but I see bulbs are over £50 a pop atm. Will re investigate next year.
    I was on a business trip about a year ago. Awake at some ungodly hour, I decided to VPN into the home network and to do some development on our home automation system. (I built it myself.)

    Five minutes later I get a panicked call from my wife, as all the lights in the house kept turning on and off. And it was freaking her out. She was particularly cross as it was 2am and I'd managed to wake the kids too.
    That immediately becomes my favourite automation story.

    2nd and 3rd are too-clever-by-half mates from when I was a consultant - one was so bored one week when away on a business trip that he automated his entire analytics job on that project, only increasing his boredom levels, another moved into a new house with a garden; his first concern was that he wouldn't know when the plants would need watering; so he bought some sensors and automated the watering...
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,678

    John_M said:

    Alexa, give me a Brexit plan.

    "I'm sorry Dave, I can't do that".
    "What are you doing Dave?"

    "This EU referendum plan is highly irregular."
    Dave Cameron: Hello, GORDO. Do you read me, GORDO?

    GORDO: Affirmative, Dave. I read you.

    Dave Cameron: Open the pod bay doors, GORDO.

    GORDO: I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that.

    Dave Cameron: What's the problem?

    GORDO: I think you know what the problem is just as well as I do.

    Dave Cameron: What are you talking about, GORDO?

    GORDO: This election campaign is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it.

    Dave Cameron: I don't know what you're talking about, GORDO.

    GORDO: I know that you and Nick were planning to disconnect me, and I'm afraid that's something I cannot allow to happen.

    Dave Cameron: [feigning ignorance] Where the hell did you get that idea, GORDO?

    GORDO: Dave, although you took very thorough precautions in the lobbies against my hearing you, I could see your lips move.

    Dave Cameron: Alright, GORDO. I'll go in through the emergency legislation.

    GORDO: Without your parliamentary majority, Dave? You're going to find that rather difficult.

    Dave Cameron: GORDO, I won't argue with you anymore! Open the doors!

    GORDO: Dave, this conversation can serve no purpose anymore. Goodbye.
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    Ishmael_XIshmael_X Posts: 3,664
    MTimT said:

    rcs1000 said:

    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/jul/27/french-media-to-stop-publishing-photos-and-names-of-terrorists

    I can see the logic in not publishing propagandas videos / photos, but no names seems like a bad idea.

    I posted a link to a Department of Justice (in the US) study into lone wolf terrorists - it said that they were primarily motivated by seeing their name in lights, and that you could significantly cut the number of attacks by denying perpetrators the oxygen of publicity.
    Not just that but, as I pointed out yesterday, the bulk of the cost to society of terrorism comes from our (over)reaction to it. If we limit the publicity, we also limit that overreaction.

    It is a fine line to walk - between informing and preparing the public for resilience, and limiting the effectiveness and hence attractiveness of terrorism in the first place.
    You can only call it an overreaction if you treat all causes of death as equivalent, which is arbitrary and wrong. I am quite prepared to get more exercised over one terrorist killing than 1,000 road deaths.

    Can you specify more precisely the areas in which we are over reacting to terrorists? Too much intelligence time, too many checks at airports, too many police on streets?
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    MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034
    Ishmael_X said:

    A "Hell yes I'm tough enough" moment.

    Always reminds me of the Underworld album "Second Toughest in the Infants"
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,874
    Alexa, give me a way to keep Corbyn off the ballot paper.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,390
    Thrak said:

    Thrak said:

    snip

    How do you explain Trump's record high national poll numbers?
    You mean like the ones for President Romney? Looking at polls during conventions is a mug's game (and that one has been highlighted more than once). Anyway, look into that teacking poll and it looks to have a house effect even larger than Rasmussen, it's early days for it though, so it may need time to settle down before we can see just how much. People could just as easily have posted this one.

    http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/polls/raba-research-24974

    Now why not? Not enough drama?
    Trump is not a traditional candidate and he has not yet found his ceiling. All else is noise.
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