At some point, the French people will choose a president who will give the hated Jews and Muslims a good kicking. All these atrocities are grist to the mill for Marine Le Pen.
Jews aren't hated in France by native French people (outside a tiny mad minority). French Muslim anti-Semitism, yes, of course.
You are naïve. The FN have substantial support and anti-Semitism is a core part of their values. The Jews in France are mainly outsiders who moved there less than 100 years ago from North Africa and the Middle East. They would fear a President Le Pen.
I disagree completely. I know France quite well, and have a fair number of French friends.
The old style French anti-Semitism of Jean Marie le Pen is fast diminishing to a tiny hardcore. This is in part because the clear and present danger of radical Islam is occupying the mental space reserved for "the Other". The enemy is obvious, and it is not Jews.
Even if (by virtue of numbers) the prime target would be Muslims, Jews would be caught in the collateral fall-out from punitive action because they are outsiders, have immigrated from the same countries as the Muslims and share similar religious practices - hair/head coverings, ritual slaughter, male circumcision, religious courts which take primacy in some areas of life (e.g. marriage/divorce), a different day of rest and holidays, etc.
Given that Wales voted Leave I'm not massively sympathetic. Scotland/NI have a stronger case given they voted Remain. I think with Brexit people need to understand the consequences.
Erm, the trend is that people would seem more optimistic than before the vote...
Ah, wasn't clear. I was just dumping a tweet in here, without any accompanying comment. I voted to Leave. I think it shows people are being quite realistic. Tough in the short term, better times later.
Given that Wales voted Leave I'm not massively sympathetic. Scotland/NI have a stronger case given they voted Remain. I think with Brexit people need to understand the consequences.
The government should fund projects that are worthwhile, and cease funding those that aren't.
Hollande seemed relatively popular after Paris - seems the worm has turned against him..
He was massively unpopular* before, so that would be the sort of bump that, for example, Bush got post 9/11
*it always tickled me that people were citing the coalition's net popularity when it was net negative but around the twenties in 2015 as a bad thing when it was (a) comparable to reelected governments in the UK and (b) it was always as good as if not better than most in Europe.
I think Hollande has plunged depths of -70 and deeper.
Given that Wales voted Leave I'm not massively sympathetic. Scotland/NI have a stronger case given they voted Remain. I think with Brexit people need to understand the consequences.
On the face of it, a domestic UK Government should be able to fund or exceed all EU funding through repatriated regional policy given our net contributions to the EU were c.10bn.
In reality, I expect that given we want both passporting into the EU for our financial services *and* greater border control we will only achieve that through buying them off with high budget contributions and guarantees on military and maritime security.
At some point, the French people will choose a president who will give the hated Jews and Muslims a good kicking. All these atrocities are grist to the mill for Marine Le Pen.
Jews aren't hated in France by native French people (outside a tiny mad minority). French Muslim anti-Semitism, yes, of course.
You are naïve. The FN have substantial support and anti-Semitism is a core part of their values. The Jews in France are mainly outsiders who moved there less than 100 years ago from North Africa and the Middle East. They would fear a President Le Pen.
I disagree completely. I know France quite well, and have a fair number of French friends.
The old style French anti-Semitism of Jean Marie le Pen is fast diminishing to a tiny hardcore. This is in part because the clear and present danger of radical Islam is occupying the mental space reserved for "the Other". The enemy is obvious, and it is not Jews.
I agree. The 'my enemy's enemy is my friend' mentality also applies. I suspect many white Christian or secular French will see Jews as natural allies in a cultural fight with Islam. The reaction in Nice suggests Mossad would be more popular than their own security service efforts right now!
Islam and Judaism have far more cultural similarities than Judaism has to Western secularism. For example, gay marriage is an anathema and Judaism regards homosexuality as an abomination worthy of death.
Given that Wales voted Leave I'm not massively sympathetic. Scotland/NI have a stronger case given they voted Remain. I think with Brexit people need to understand the consequences.
I do think questions about replacement funding are ones that the government has to start answering pretty soon.
Now is the time for the Brexit answers to begin - initial feeling is that we're gonna borrow like crazy to sweeten the pill. I don't think it will end well
''PB-ers used to label me a horrible bigot for espousing this. Hear less of that, now.''
Do you think we will ever see a UK government with a nation-by-nation immigration policy?
No. What we will see is a nation-by-nation immigration policy DISGUISED AS SOMETHING ELSE.
Perhaps a kind of "points system". Who knows.
I really don't imagine that in this would be at all controversial.
Immigrant from Anglosphere democracy: 5 points Immigrant from murderous medieval theocracy: -5 points
I’m sure the intervening levels could be filled in fairly easily…
Now, there are likely to be numerous practical difficulties with this. But I don’t think the principle would be terribly contentious away from the serially-offended ranks of CiF, North London and the twittersphere.
Given that Wales voted Leave I'm not massively sympathetic. Scotland/NI have a stronger case given they voted Remain. I think with Brexit people need to understand the consequences.
EU funding for the Welsh amounts to £79 per head per year. That's 21.9p per head per day. They'll be quaking in their boots down in the valleys.
Given that Wales voted Leave I'm not massively sympathetic. Scotland/NI have a stronger case given they voted Remain. I think with Brexit people need to understand the consequences.
The government should fund projects that are worthwhile, and cease funding those that aren't.
Yes I suppose so but you and I know it's gonna cause a huge storm when the cheques are stopped.
At some point, the French people will choose a president who will give the hated Jews and Muslims a good kicking. All these atrocities are grist to the mill for Marine Le Pen.
Jews aren't hated in France by native French people (outside a tiny mad minority). French Muslim anti-Semitism, yes, of course.
You are naïve. The FN have substantial support and anti-Semitism is a core part of their values. The Jews in France are mainly outsiders who moved there less than 100 years ago from North Africa and the Middle East. They would fear a President Le Pen.
I disagree completely. I know France quite well, and have a fair number of French friends.
The old style French anti-Semitism of Jean Marie le Pen is fast diminishing to a tiny hardcore. This is in part because the clear and present danger of radical Islam is occupying the mental space reserved for "the Other". The enemy is obvious, and it is not Jews.
I agree. The 'my enemy's enemy is my friend' mentality also applies. I suspect many white Christian or secular French will see Jews as natural allies in a cultural fight with Islam. The reaction in Nice suggests Mossad would be more popular than their own security service efforts right now!
Islam and Judaism have far more cultural similarities than Judaism has to Western secularism. For example, gay marriage is an anathema and Judaism regards homosexuality as an abomination worthy of death.
"So a hardline French president that "dealt" with radical Islam would be urgently and eagerly welcomed by the French Jewish community."
I agree that Jews are a target of Muslim hatred, largely (but not exclusively) due to the existence and behaviour of the Zionist entity, but that does not invalidate the point that I am making about the fact that Jews are outsiders and have much in common with Muslims, however much they hate the Jews, and so would be particularly affected by anti-Muslim pro-secular legislation.
Sheltering from the blazing heat. Nerd alert incoming.
We don't compile GDP/capita for sub-regions of the UK (with apologies to Wales and Scotland), all we get is GVA per capita (which is GDP excluding subsidies and tax e.g. VAT).
If we look at the UK, we have four tiers. Tier one is London. Tier 2 is SE England. Tier 3 is most of the rest of England + Scotland. Tier 4 is NE England, Yorkshire & Humberside, NI and Wales (Wales being the poorest country in the Union). You can argue for the Midlands being in either tier 3 or 4.
Wales is almost a hopeless case, with or without EU funding. It has the lowest GVA/capita, the lowest growth rate. It has 41% of the GVA/capita of London. The poorest area in the UK is Anglesey.
At some point, the French people will choose a president who will give the hated Jews and Muslims a good kicking. All these atrocities are grist to the mill for Marine Le Pen.
Jews aren't hated in France by native French people (outside a tiny mad minority). French Muslim anti-Semitism, yes, of course.
You are naïve. The FN have substantial support and anti-Semitism is a core part of their values. The Jews in France are mainly outsiders who moved there less than 100 years ago from North Africa and the Middle East. They would fear a President Le Pen.
I disagree completely. I know France quite well, and have a fair number of French friends.
The old style French anti-Semitism of Jean Marie le Pen is fast diminishing to a tiny hardcore. This is in part because the clear and present danger of radical Islam is occupying the mental space reserved for "the Other". The enemy is obvious, and it is not Jews.
I agree. The 'my enemy's enemy is my friend' mentality also applies. I suspect many white Christian or secular French will see Jews as natural allies in a cultural fight with Islam. The reaction in Nice suggests Mossad would be more popular than their own security service efforts right now!
Islam and Judaism have far more cultural similarities than Judaism has to Western secularism. For example, gay marriage is an anathema and Judaism regards homosexuality as an abomination worthy of death.
Most Jews are secular.
Having read Foreskin's Lament I understand why. Yahweh is a particular capricious god with an odd sense of humour and an attitude problem a mile wide.
Early days but May's first performance comes across as awkward though that is comparing it to Cameron who was a master at the despatch box so perhaps unfair. Time to grow into it though.
Early days but May's first performance comes across as awkward though that is comparing it to Cameron who was a master at the despatch box so perhaps unfair. Time to grow into it though.
Cameron had a fair bit of time as LoTO to get his act in shape.
How can CBS know more about the Nice attack than the government in Paris?
I heard that he has 3 relatives who are also islamist extremists.
I also posted a link the other day about the events is Paris and the true barbarity being covered up.
There have been several other events where the truth is being suppressed, Germany being a specific example.
Political class obviously don't want difficult questions
The public are on to these things quicker than the politicians like to admit anyway.
Two months ago, British tourism in Turkey was down 30% in 2016 against its 2015 numbers. And that was before the violence in Ataturk airport and the recent coup.
We've evolved to sniff out danger, protect our families and weigh up the options, regardless of what our govt tells us. Politically correct labels of racism, bigotry, small mindedness or whatever.... fade into insignificance when measured up against the cold hard facts.
People are not holidaying in Turkey as much because they sense danger and are scared. Why is this?
Early days but May's first performance comes across as awkward though that is comparing it to Cameron who was a master at the despatch box so perhaps unfair. Time to grow into it though.
Cameron had a fair bit of time as LoTO to get his act in shape.
True.
Also have to say it feels a bit weird seeing Cameron on the backbenches.
Early days but May's first performance comes across as awkward though that is comparing it to Cameron who was a master at the despatch box so perhaps unfair. Time to grow into it though.
At some point, the French people will choose a president who will give the hated Jews and Muslims a good kicking. All these atrocities are grist to the mill for Marine Le Pen.
Jews aren't hated in France by native French people (outside a tiny mad minority). French Muslim anti-Semitism, yes, of course.
You are naïve. The FN have substantial support and anti-Semitism is a core part of their values. The Jews in France are mainly outsiders who moved there less than 100 years ago from North Africa and the Middle East. They would fear a President Le Pen.
I disagree completely. I know France quite well, and have a fair number of French friends.
The old style French anti-Semitism of Jean Marie le Pen is fast diminishing to a tiny hardcore. This is in part because the clear and present danger of radical Islam is occupying the mental space reserved for "the Other". The enemy is obvious, and it is not Jews.
I agree. The 'my enemy's enemy is my friend' mentality also applies. I suspect many white Christian or secular French will see Jews as natural allies in a cultural fight with Islam. The reaction in Nice suggests Mossad would be more popular than their own security service efforts right now!
Islam and Judaism have far more cultural similarities than Judaism has to Western secularism. For example, gay marriage is an anathema and Judaism regards homosexuality as an abomination worthy of death.
Do they kill people for homosexuality in Israel, then?
Anglesey - "The company, jointly owned by Rio Tinto Alcan (51%) and Kaiser Aluminum (49%), said it had worked intensively with the UK Government and others to find a sustainable alternative to the power supply needs of the smelter, but had been unable to do so." - didn't the Welsh government block a new gas powered power station? Wanted a wave power solution I believe. Wasn't the flue gas power plant for Port Talbot blocked until it was too late?
Early days but May's first performance comes across as awkward though that is comparing it to Cameron who was a master at the despatch box so perhaps unfair. Time to grow into it though.
She might be able to equal Thatcher, who was never particularly witty or sharp at the despatch box, but was dogged and clever and had stats to hand.
I don't think May is as intellectually smart as Thatcher, and she hasn't trained at the Bar either.
But, she is a better listener and might end up being politically shrewder.
Wells Fargo, one of the biggest banks in the US, has agreed to buy an office block in the City of London.
The building is expected to be finished by September next year, with Wells Fargo planning to begin moving in to the new location in 2018. It currently has 850 employees across London.
"With this new building in London, we are able to bring our team members together in one location in order to more efficiently and effectively manage our operations," said Frank Pizzo, Wells Fargo regional president for Europe Middle East & Africa (EMEA).
At some point, the French people will choose a president who will give the hated Jews and Muslims a good kicking. All these atrocities are grist to the mill for Marine Le Pen.
Jews aren't hated in France by native French people (outside a tiny mad minority). French Muslim anti-Semitism, yes, of course.
You are naïve. The FN have substantial support and anti-Semitism is a core part of their values. The Jews in France are mainly outsiders who moved there less than 100 years ago from North Africa and the Middle East. They would fear a President Le Pen.
I disagree completely. I know France quite well, and have a fair number of French friends.
The old style French anti-Semitism of Jean Marie le Pen is fast diminishing to a tiny hardcore. This is in part because the clear and present danger of radical Islam is occupying the mental space reserved for "the Other". The enemy is obvious, and it is not Jews.
I agree. The 'my enemy's enemy is my friend' mentality also applies. I suspect many white Christian or secular French will see Jews as natural allies in a cultural fight with Islam. The reaction in Nice suggests Mossad would be more popular than their own security service efforts right now!
Islam and Judaism have far more cultural similarities than Judaism has to Western secularism. For example, gay marriage is an anathema and Judaism regards homosexuality as an abomination worthy of death.
Do they kill people for homosexuality in Israel, then?
It's not "Israel", dummy. Read daodao's other posts. It's the "Zionist Entity".
Early days but May's first performance comes across as awkward though that is comparing it to Cameron who was a master at the despatch box so perhaps unfair. Time to grow into it though.
She might be able to equal Thatcher, who was never particularly witty or sharp at the despatch box, but was dogged and clever and had stats to hand.
I don't think May is as intellectually smart as Thatcher, and she hasn't trained at the Bar either.
But, she is a better listener and might end up being politically shrewder.
Lovely juicy snippet in Tom Bower's Broken Vows book about Thatcher diligently staying up all hours and completing the paperwork in the Red Boxes night after night.
Blair barely ever got through half of it. He wasn't interested in detail.
I imagine May will be a bit like Thatcher. Very abreast of the finer detail.
It won't make for good PR but will make for good government.
... I imagine May will be a bit like Thatcher. Very abreast of the finer detail.
It won't make for good PR but will make for good government.
It depends on whether the detail overwhelms her. Cameron was a famously good delegator (sometimes too good), May seems to be more hands-on. That worked well at the Home Office, but might not be so good in No 10.
But it's early days. It's silly to rush to judgement.
At some point, the French people will choose a president who will give the hated Jews and Muslims a good kicking. All these atrocities are grist to the mill for Marine Le Pen.
Jews aren't hated in France by native French people (outside a tiny mad minority). French Muslim anti-Semitism, yes, of course.
You are naïve. The FN have substantial support and anti-Semitism is a core part of their values. The Jews in France are mainly outsiders who moved there less than 100 years ago from North Africa and the Middle East. They would fear a President Le Pen.
I disagree completely. I know France quite well, and have a fair number of French friends.
The old style French anti-Semitism of Jean Marie le Pen is fast diminishing to a tiny hardcore. This is in part because the clear and present danger of radical Islam is occupying the mental space reserved for "the Other". The enemy is obvious, and it is not Jews.
I agree. The 'my enemy's enemy is my friend' mentality also applies. I suspect many white Christian or secular French will see Jews as natural allies in a cultural fight with Islam. The reaction in Nice suggests Mossad would be more popular than their own security service efforts right now!
Islam and Judaism have far more cultural similarities than Judaism has to Western secularism. For example, gay marriage is an anathema and Judaism regards homosexuality as an abomination worthy of death.
Do they kill people for homosexuality in Israel, then?
Worse. They make them represent the country in the Eurovison Song Contest!
Early days but May's first performance comes across as awkward though that is comparing it to Cameron who was a master at the despatch box so perhaps unfair. Time to grow into it though.
She might be able to equal Thatcher, who was never particularly witty or sharp at the despatch box, but was dogged and clever and had stats to hand.
I don't think May is as intellectually smart as Thatcher, and she hasn't trained at the Bar either.
But, she is a better listener and might end up being politically shrewder.
Lovely juicy snippet in Tom Bower's Broken Vows book about Thatcher diligently staying up all hours and completing the paperwork in the Red Boxes night after night.
Blair barely ever got through half of it. He wasn't interested in detail.
I imagine May will be a bit like Thatcher. Very abreast of the finer detail.
It won't make for good PR but will make for good government.
To be honest, I think May is coming across as assured and competent. I dont want someone who chucks out a funny one liner every now and then. May seems to understand the finer details, and to me looks pretty strong.
"Do they kill people for homosexuality in Israel, then?"
There has been extreme reluctance by Jewish authorities to implement any of the punishments written in the Old Testament since the destruction of the 2nd Temple - that is why I was careful to use the phrase "worthy of death". The Islamists by contrast implement the punishments outlined in the Q'uran literally. However, practising Jews do not agree with the values of the Western secular world that conflict with their religion and regard it as the new "Rome", but tend to keep these views quiet where they are guests in foreign lands.
Early days but May's first performance comes across as awkward though that is comparing it to Cameron who was a master at the despatch box so perhaps unfair. Time to grow into it though.
She might be able to equal Thatcher, who was never particularly witty or sharp at the despatch box, but was dogged and clever and had stats to hand.
I don't think May is as intellectually smart as Thatcher, and she hasn't trained at the Bar either.
But, she is a better listener and might end up being politically shrewder.
Lovely juicy snippet in Tom Bower's Broken Vows book about Thatcher diligently staying up all hours and completing the paperwork in the Red Boxes night after night.
Blair barely ever got through half of it. He wasn't interested in detail.
I imagine May will be a bit like Thatcher. Very abreast of the finer detail.
It won't make for good PR but will make for good government.
In that case I assume that May isn't avoiding the cost issues with Trident because she doesn't know the numbers?
But Lucy Powell, supporting Smith, says "it'd be a 'disaster' to have more than one candidate opposing Corbyn"
Could someone please explain how the alternative vote works to labour MPs
Even with AV, having more than one opponent will split campaign effort, not to mention taking shots at each other. Plus there's no guarantee of 100% transfers within AV, thus support can be lost.
Labour's best hope is a unity candidate to take on Corbyn directly, with the support of all the other MPs.
There is no way on God's green earth he is 16 stone in the Foreign ministers picture.
Seems unlikely, although weight can be a surprising thing. I'm significantly shorter than Boris and was about as porky a couple of years ago and was 14 stone, wouldn't take much for him to be close to it.
Does reaction in Nice also betray a different, more southern temperament among the population there? I have no idea, but the south of France is a very different place to the north, where the big attacks have occurred up to now.
Is the south of France their Lincolnshire I wonder ? Where UKIP got many Cllrs elected. Not that I think ukip is the same as FN. And from Boston UKIP grew to a national force in 2013.
So whilst Provence is not representative yet it could come to be.
The unusual thing about the geography of FN support is that its best regions are the poorest in the NE (Pas de Calais etc.) and the richest in the south (Provence & CA). In the south it's another of the Le Pen clan, Marion, who is a leading figure.
Labour tying themselves in knots over Trident. It's like the good old days.
are we expecting any rebellion on the government benches?
Not at all. I think the equivocation about nuclear weapons is with the opposition parties. My own view is that Trident is simply the price we pay to retain a permanent seat on the UN Security Council. Whether its worth it is one of those unanswerable questions.
At some point, the French people will choose a president who will give the hated Jews and Muslims a good kicking. All these atrocities are grist to the mill for Marine Le Pen.
Jews aren't hated in France by native French people (outside a tiny mad minority). French Muslim anti-Semitism, yes, of course.
You are naïve. The FN have substantial support and anti-Semitism is a core part of their values. The Jews in France are mainly outsiders who moved there less than 100 years ago from North Africa and the Middle East. They would fear a President Le Pen.
I disagree completely. I know France quite well, and have a fair number of French friends.
The old style French anti-Semitism of Jean Marie le Pen is fast diminishing to a tiny hardcore. This is in part because the clear and present danger of radical Islam is occupying the mental space reserved for "the Other". The enemy is obvious, and it is not Jews.
I agree. The 'my enemy's enemy is my friend' mentality also applies. I suspect many white Christian or secular French will see Jews as natural allies in a cultural fight with Islam. The reaction in Nice suggests Mossad would be more popular than their own security service efforts right now!
Islam and Judaism have far more cultural similarities than Judaism has to Western secularism. For example, gay marriage is an anathema and Judaism regards homosexuality as an abomination worthy of death.
Which is why reformed synagogues are performing gay weddings? Are you Nick Griffin?
"Labour MPs impressed by both Eagle and Smith". according to George Eaton.
Does that say something about Labour MPs?
I could wander onto the stage at a PLP meeting as a leadership candidate and, after having consumed three pints of lager, just belch a long 'breeeeeaaasts' into the microphone, before walking off again, and Labour MPs would be impressed.
That says something about Jeremy Corbyn.
They are the only two brave enough to put their head above the parapet and volunteer to be this century's Kinnock - which by itself surely puts them ahead of the rest of the sorry bunch? The ones to pity are those who see themselves as leader but don't want the grief and graft that standing for it now would involve.
At some point, the French people will choose a president who will give the hated Jews and Muslims a good kicking. All these atrocities are grist to the mill for Marine Le Pen.
Jews aren't hated in France by native French people (outside a tiny mad minority). French Muslim anti-Semitism, yes, of course.
You are naïve. The FN have substantial support and anti-Semitism is a core part of their values. The Jews in France are mainly outsiders who moved there less than 100 years ago from North Africa and the Middle East. They would fear a President Le Pen.
I disagree completely. I know France quite well, and have a fair number of French friends.
The old style French anti-Semitism of Jean Marie le Pen is fast diminishing to a tiny hardcore. This is in part because the clear and present danger of radical Islam is occupying the mental space reserved for "the Other". The enemy is obvious, and it is not Jews.
I agree. The 'my enemy's enemy is my friend' mentality also applies. I suspect many white Christian or secular French will see Jews as natural allies in a cultural fight with Islam. The reaction in Nice suggests Mossad would be more popular than their own security service efforts right now!
Islam and Judaism have far more cultural similarities than Judaism has to Western secularism. For example, gay marriage is an anathema and Judaism regards homosexuality as an abomination worthy of death.
Which is why reformed synagogues are performing gay weddings? Are you Nick Griffin?
From the perspective of Orthodox Judaism, some of the practices of Reform and Liberal temples are a "Chillul Hashem", translated as a desecration of G-d's name.
Wells Fargo, one of the biggest banks in the US, has agreed to buy an office block in the City of London.
The building is expected to be finished by September next year, with Wells Fargo planning to begin moving in to the new location in 2018. It currently has 850 employees across London.
"With this new building in London, we are able to bring our team members together in one location in order to more efficiently and effectively manage our operations," said Frank Pizzo, Wells Fargo regional president for Europe Middle East & Africa (EMEA).
Wells Fargo!
I had assumed that existed only in Westerns set in the 19th Century
I had no idea it was still going, in fact I think i would easily have believed it was fictional if you'd told me so. Well you live and learn.
Does reaction in Nice also betray a different, more southern temperament among the population there? I have no idea, but the south of France is a very different place to the north, where the big attacks have occurred up to now.
The FN poll very well there amongst the indigines. Lots of pied noir there.
Pied Noir is a key to the whole thing. To understand what this is all about you have to know the History of Algeria.
Basically, imagine if South Africa had been declared an integral part of the UK in 1930 (and had Rhodesian style short of apartheid instituionalised discrimination including in who is allowed to vote) and that the black people were muslims.
Imagine then that what happened in Rhodesia in the 1970s (with the bush war and horrible massacres by both sides) had happened on a much bigger scale in South Africa in the 1950s and then in 1962 the UK had given in and given them independence.
And that immediately after independence the whites (equivalent of pied noirs) - over a milion of them and an equal amount of black and mixed race people (with links to the old regime) had fled to the UK virtually overnight to escape a vengeful Zanu-pf.
And that most of the black and mixed race people were housed in banlieues upon arrival in the UK which in some ways were little better than townships like Soweto. And that they had had more children than indigenous population and there were about 4 million, mostly poor, few jobs and still regarded as Kaffirs by many of the indidgenous population.
With reports some Labour voters were uncertain of the party's stance in the Referendum, in part due to Corbyn's perceived ambivalence to the EU, presumably many Labour voters will assume it already is Labour policy to abolish Trident, particularly since apparently the members of the party are in favour of such too?
"So a hardline French president that "dealt" with radical Islam would be urgently and eagerly welcomed by the French Jewish community."
I agree that Jews are a target of Muslim hatred, largely (but not exclusively) due to the existence and behaviour of the Zionist entity, but that does not invalidate the point that I am making about the fact that Jews are outsiders and have much in common with Muslims, however much they hate the Jews, and so would be particularly affected by anti-Muslim pro-secular legislation.
"So a hardline French president that "dealt" with radical Islam would be urgently and eagerly welcomed by the French Jewish community."
I agree that Jews are a target of Muslim hatred, largely (but not exclusively) due to the existence and behaviour of the Zionist entity, but that does not invalidate the point that I am making about the fact that Jews are outsiders and have much in common with Muslims, however much they hate the Jews, and so would be particularly affected by anti-Muslim pro-secular legislation.
Shouldn't you be posting on Stormfront?
Just for curation purposes I'd be interested in knowing daodao's background: nationality, ethnicity, religion etc. A very peculiar political specimen indeed.
"I have a wife and three kids, unlike my opponent"
"I have children, unlike Mrs May"
How on earth does Labour manage to always pull defeat from the jaws of victory...
OK granted neither candidate has much chance of beating Corbyn but they always seem to manage to screw up.
As for why you only want a single candidate against Corbyn, can I draw your attention to the comments above. Owen is already attacking Angela and distracting from the real issue that needs to be decided upon...
The problem with our Independent Nuclear Deterrent is that whilst it is certainly nuclear, it is neither independent, nor much of a deterrent.
Go in then why isn't it independent?
I believe it is universally acknowledged that the project would cease in a matter of months without American support. I also understand that we need their assistance in targeting the weapon. That's before you even get to skullduggery surrounding circuits, kill-switches etc.
Would you sell the ability to wipe out cities entirely independently of your control to another country? Which country would you sell that to? The answer is you wouldn't, and the yanks certainly wouldn't. Hence there isn't another nuclear nation on earth that has bought this off-the-peg idiocy.
Comments
https://twitter.com/PauldMcNamee/status/755051084402622464
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/i-m-normal-i-have-a-wife-and-children-says-labour-challenger-owen-smith-a3298381.html
Although Guido thinks it's worse, what got me about Leadsom was the comparison: "she's got nieces, but [only] I've got children". Smith avoids that.
"I have a wife and three kids, unlike my opponent"
"I have children, unlike Mrs May"
*it always tickled me that people were citing the coalition's net popularity when it was net negative but around the twenties in 2015 as a bad thing when it was (a) comparable to reelected governments in the UK and (b) it was always as good as if not better than most in Europe.
I think Hollande has plunged depths of -70 and deeper.
In reality, I expect that given we want both passporting into the EU for our financial services *and* greater border control we will only achieve that through buying them off with high budget contributions and guarantees on military and maritime security.
Immigrant from Anglosphere democracy: 5 points
Immigrant from murderous medieval theocracy: -5 points
I’m sure the intervening levels could be filled in fairly easily…
Now, there are likely to be numerous practical difficulties with this. But I don’t think the principle would be terribly contentious away from the serially-offended ranks of CiF, North London and the twittersphere.
Not much news on it anywhere.
* I should add. I live in Wales. *
*Innocent face*
I also posted a link the other day about the events is Paris and the true barbarity being covered up.
There have been several other events where the truth is being suppressed, Germany being a specific example.
Political class obviously don't want difficult questions
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2016/jul/18/trident-debate-renewal-corbyn-may-idealism-as-mps-prepare-for-trident-vote-politics-live
16:04
He's a porky fellow these days is our Boris, eh?
"So a hardline French president that "dealt" with radical Islam would be urgently and eagerly welcomed by the French Jewish community."
I agree that Jews are a target of Muslim hatred, largely (but not exclusively) due to the existence and behaviour of the Zionist entity, but that does not invalidate the point that I am making about the fact that Jews are outsiders and have much in common with Muslims, however much they hate the Jews, and so would be particularly affected by anti-Muslim pro-secular legislation.
The Evening Times @TheEveningTimes 1m1 minute ago
Glasgow bus crash: Eyewitness accounts say bus driver chased after runaway bus
https://twitter.com/PauldMcNamee/status/755051285108387844
We don't compile GDP/capita for sub-regions of the UK (with apologies to Wales and Scotland), all we get is GVA per capita (which is GDP excluding subsidies and tax e.g. VAT).
If we look at the UK, we have four tiers. Tier one is London. Tier 2 is SE England. Tier 3 is most of the rest of England + Scotland. Tier 4 is NE England, Yorkshire & Humberside, NI and Wales (Wales being the poorest country in the Union). You can argue for the Midlands being in either tier 3 or 4.
Wales is almost a hopeless case, with or without EU funding. It has the lowest GVA/capita, the lowest growth rate. It has 41% of the GVA/capita of London. The poorest area in the UK is Anglesey.
Poor Wales. Literally and figuratively.
Two months ago, British tourism in Turkey was down 30% in 2016 against its 2015 numbers. And that was before the violence in Ataturk airport and the recent coup.
We've evolved to sniff out danger, protect our families and weigh up the options, regardless of what our govt tells us. Politically correct labels of racism, bigotry, small mindedness or whatever.... fade into insignificance when measured up against the cold hard facts.
People are not holidaying in Turkey as much because they sense danger and are scared. Why is this?
The answer is pretty obvious.
Also have to say it feels a bit weird seeing Cameron on the backbenches.
But, she is a better listener and might end up being politically shrewder.
"US bank buys new office block in London"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36826974
Wells Fargo, one of the biggest banks in the US, has agreed to buy an office block in the City of London.
The building is expected to be finished by September next year, with Wells Fargo planning to begin moving in to the new location in 2018. It currently has 850 employees across London.
"With this new building in London, we are able to bring our team members together in one location in order to more efficiently and effectively manage our operations," said Frank Pizzo, Wells Fargo regional president for Europe Middle East & Africa (EMEA).
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2900416/Porky-Prime-Minister-puts-January-diet-piling-pounds-Christmas.html
There is no way on God's green earth he is 16 stone in the Foreign ministers picture.
Blair barely ever got through half of it. He wasn't interested in detail.
I imagine May will be a bit like Thatcher. Very abreast of the finer detail.
It won't make for good PR but will make for good government.
Could someone please explain how the alternative vote works to labour MPs
But it's early days. It's silly to rush to judgement.
Which is why she will burn out in 18 months and Cameron will have to pick up the pieces.
"Do they kill people for homosexuality in Israel, then?"
There has been extreme reluctance by Jewish authorities to implement any of the punishments written in the Old Testament since the destruction of the 2nd Temple - that is why I was careful to use the phrase "worthy of death". The Islamists by contrast implement the punishments outlined in the Q'uran literally. However, practising Jews do not agree with the values of the Western secular world that conflict with their religion and regard it as the new "Rome", but tend to keep these views quiet where they are guests in foreign lands.
Even with AV, having more than one opponent will split campaign effort, not to mention taking shots at each other. Plus there's no guarantee of 100% transfers within AV, thus support can be lost.
Labour's best hope is a unity candidate to take on Corbyn directly, with the support of all the other MPs.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2016/jul/18/trident-debate-renewal-corbyn-may-idealism-as-mps-prepare-for-trident-vote-politics-live
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Edit .... beaten to the punchline by Disraeli ..
I had assumed that existed only in Westerns set in the 19th Century
I had no idea it was still going, in fact I think i would easily have believed it was fictional if you'd told me so. Well you live and learn.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/page/files/20160707_cea_ai_furman.pdf?imm_mid=0e5cb8&cmp=em-na-na-na-newsltr_ai_20160718
Basically, imagine if South Africa had been declared an integral part of the UK in 1930 (and had Rhodesian style short of apartheid instituionalised discrimination including in who is allowed to vote) and that the black people were muslims.
Imagine then that what happened in Rhodesia in the 1970s (with the bush war and horrible massacres by both sides) had happened on a much bigger scale in South Africa in the 1950s and then in 1962 the UK had given in and given them independence.
And that immediately after independence the whites (equivalent of pied noirs) - over a milion of them and an equal amount of black and mixed race people (with links to the old regime) had fled to the UK virtually overnight to escape a vengeful Zanu-pf.
And that most of the black and mixed race people were housed in banlieues upon arrival in the UK which in some ways were little better than townships like Soweto. And that they had had more children than indigenous population and there were about 4 million, mostly poor, few jobs and still regarded as Kaffirs by many of the indidgenous population.
That is France today.
France may be at the point where people start taking the law into their own hands.
OK granted neither candidate has much chance of beating Corbyn but they always seem to manage to screw up.
As for why you only want a single candidate against Corbyn, can I draw your attention to the comments above. Owen is already attacking Angela and distracting from the real issue that needs to be decided upon...
Would you sell the ability to wipe out cities entirely independently of your control to another country? Which country would you sell that to? The answer is you wouldn't, and the yanks certainly wouldn't. Hence there isn't another nuclear nation on earth that has bought this off-the-peg idiocy.
That was the argument.
And we don't have PAL on our nukes.