Incorrect - the projection was Conservatives: Largest Party. Neither a hung parliament nor a majority was predicted.
Yes -- John Curtice said at the time that the "upper range" of the exit poll projections pointed to a small Tory majority. 316 seats was just the midpoint of their projections.
I guess the point about the Save Dave letter is that if he has the support of 84 Leavers then there's no point trying to 22 him as he'd win the vote of confidence easily (and then you've shot your bolt).
Jan Britton @janbritton 30s31 seconds ago Ballot boxes are arriving. Counting process has begun. Turnout looks like it's healthy but not as high as the 75% I predicted this morning.
I made it. Got into the station at 9.47. Ran to the car, broke every speed limit and got there as they were preparing to close down. I was the second last in; the last person was also a late train casualty and also Remain.
I made it. Got into the station at 9.47. Ran to the car, broke every speed limit and got there as they were preparing to close down. I was the second last in; the last person was also a late train casualty and also Remain.
I made it. Got into the station at 9.47. Ran to the car, broke every speed limit and got there as they were preparing to close down. I was the second last in; the last person was also a late train casualty and also Remain.
I made it. Got into the station at 9.47. Ran to the car, broke every speed limit and got there as they were preparing to close down. I was the second last in; the last person was also a late train casualty and also Remain.
I guess the point about the Save Dave letter is that if he has the support of 84 Leavers then there's no point trying to 22 him as he'd win the vote of confidence easily (and then you've shot your bolt).
Call me cynical but I wouldn't be surprised if there is some quid pro quo for that letter.
I made it. Got into the station at 9.47. Ran to the car, broke every speed limit and got there as they were preparing to close down. I was the second last in; the last person was also a late train casualty and also Remain.
I made it. Got into the station at 9.47. Ran to the car, broke every speed limit and got there as they were preparing to close down. I was the second last in; the last person was also a late train casualty and also Remain.
Incorrect - the projection was Conservatives: Largest Party. Neither a hung parliament nor a majority was predicted.
Yes -- John Curtice said at the time that the "upper range" of the exit poll projections pointed to a small Tory majority. 316 seats was just the midpoint of their projections.
Come off it, we can all make projections! Presumably if you go far enough - standard deviations or whatever - they would have been projecting a Labour win! I'm not being facetious, they did a decent job, but they were 13 seats short for the Tories. 2010 was more accurate I think.
I made it. Got into the station at 9.47. Ran to the car, broke every speed limit and got there as they were preparing to close down. I was the second last in; the last person was also a late train casualty and also Remain.
I made it. Got into the station at 9.47. Ran to the car, broke every speed limit and got there as they were preparing to close down. I was the second last in; the last person was also a late train casualty and also Remain.
Very pleased to have taken part!
Brilliant mate. I know you voted for the other side and if you win by one vote I will never talk to you again. :-)
But still glad you got to take part given how much it means to us all.
I guess the point about the Save Dave letter is that if he has the support of 84 Leavers then there's no point trying to 22 him as he'd win the vote of confidence easily (and then you've shot your bolt).
Call me cynical but I wouldn't be surprised if there is some quid pro quo for that letter.
I made it. Got into the station at 9.47. Ran to the car, broke every speed limit and got there as they were preparing to close down. I was the second last in; the last person was also a late train casualty and also Remain.
Very pleased to have taken part!
Brilliant mate. I know you voted for the other side and if you win by one vote I will never talk to you again. :-)
But still glad you got to take part given how much it means to us all.
hear hear
lovely to see democracy matter like that. well done southam
I made it. Got into the station at 9.47. Ran to the car, broke every speed limit and got there as they were preparing to close down. I was the second last in; the last person was also a late train casualty and also Remain.
I guess the point about the Save Dave letter is that if he has the support of 84 Leavers then there's no point trying to 22 him as he'd win the vote of confidence easily (and then you've shot your bolt).
Call me cynical but I wouldn't be surprised if there is some quid pro quo for that letter.
The conservatives have somehow to contrive to run this country for the next four years. There has to be olive branches all round. Mind you, they can slap each other's backs all they like. The North remembers.
@jimwaterson: YouGov crosstabs seem to confirm we're set for a victory of higher educated and young over less educated and old. https://t.co/8kKythbeR1
I made it. Got into the station at 9.47. Ran to the car, broke every speed limit and got there as they were preparing to close down. I was the second last in; the last person was also a late train casualty and also Remain.
I made it. Got into the station at 9.47. Ran to the car, broke every speed limit and got there as they were preparing to close down. I was the second last in; the last person was also a late train casualty and also Remain.
I made it. Got into the station at 9.47. Ran to the car, broke every speed limit and got there as they were preparing to close down. I was the second last in; the last person was also a late train casualty and also Remain.
I made it. Got into the station at 9.47. Ran to the car, broke every speed limit and got there as they were preparing to close down. I was the second last in; the last person was also a late train casualty and also Remain.
Incorrect - the projection was Conservatives: Largest Party. Neither a hung parliament nor a majority was predicted.
Yes -- John Curtice said at the time that the "upper range" of the exit poll projections pointed to a small Tory majority. 316 seats was just the midpoint of their projections.
Five Live said before the numbers were given that the margin of error was 20 seats.
I made it. Got into the station at 9.47. Ran to the car, broke every speed limit and got there as they were preparing to close down. I was the second last in; the last person was also a late train casualty and also Remain.
Very pleased to have taken part!
Brilliant mate. I know you voted for the other side and if you win by one vote I will never talk to you again. :-)
But still glad you got to take part given how much it means to us all.
The conservatives have somehow to contrive to run this country for the next four years. There has to be olive branches all round. Mind you, they can slap each other's backs all they like. The North remembers.
Yeah I won't be voting for them unless there are some big changes.
I made it. Got into the station at 9.47. Ran to the car, broke every speed limit and got there as they were preparing to close down. I was the second last in; the last person was also a late train casualty and also Remain.
Very pleased to have taken part!
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Well done! You have IMO made a fantastic contribution to the debate on here.
@jimwaterson: YouGov crosstabs seem to confirm we're set for a victory of higher educated and young over less educated and old. https://t.co/8kKythbeR1
That does not tally with the turnout reports we're getting from WWC areas.
I made it. Got into the station at 9.47. Ran to the car, broke every speed limit and got there as they were preparing to close down. I was the second last in; the last person was also a late train casualty and also Remain.
I made it. Got into the station at 9.47. Ran to the car, broke every speed limit and got there as they were preparing to close down. I was the second last in; the last person was also a late train casualty and also Remain.
Very pleased to have taken part!
Brilliant mate. I know you voted for the other side and if you win by one vote I will never talk to you again. :-)
But still glad you got to take part given how much it means to us all.
You are a gentleman, Mr Tyndall.
Great news even though u voted the wrong way! Well done.
I made it. Got into the station at 9.47. Ran to the car, broke every speed limit and got there as they were preparing to close down. I was the second last in; the last person was also a late train casualty and also Remain.
Don't be misled by the 'Save Dave' letter. Dave is toast, the only question being the timing before the slice pops up. He has, after all, already said he's going. If his side wins the referendum, he'll go out on a high, but he's still going, in the not-too-distant future.
Instead, this is about unifying the party for the next leader, and also about manoeuvring to be the unifying figure, amongst the would-be successors. Boris, for example, absolutely needs to get the support of Remainers and Cameroons, if he's to have any chance. Of course he's making a big show of being loyal. He would, wouldn't he? There's nothing to lose by protesting your loyalty at this stage, and everything to lose by appearing to be disloyal.
@jimwaterson: YouGov crosstabs seem to confirm we're set for a victory of higher educated and young over less educated and old. https://t.co/8kKythbeR1
We should disenfranchise the old & the thickos, then it will all be kittens and rainbows.
I made it. Got into the station at 9.47. Ran to the car, broke every speed limit and got there as they were preparing to close down. I was the second last in; the last person was also a late train casualty and also Remain.
@BBCVickiYoung: Dozens of Tory MPs sign letter supporting Cameron. Talking to many in last week they were backing PM but gunning for Osborne. #euref
#OsborneOut
He would be made a scapegoat by bitter losers. What has he done that no one else has done in the Cons party who has been for Remain? What has he alone done that hasn't been sanctioned by Cons' Leavers?
I made it. Got into the station at 9.47. Ran to the car, broke every speed limit and got there as they were preparing to close down. I was the second last in; the last person was also a late train casualty and also Remain.
I made it. Got into the station at 9.47. Ran to the car, broke every speed limit and got there as they were preparing to close down. I was the second last in; the last person was also a late train casualty and also Remain.
Very pleased to have taken part!
Democracy salutes your strength, your indefatigability.....
@BBCVickiYoung: Dozens of Tory MPs sign letter supporting Cameron. Talking to many in last week they were backing PM but gunning for Osborne. #euref
#OsborneOut
He would be made a scapegoat by bitter losers. What has he done that no one else has done in the Cons party who has been for Remain? What has he alone done that hasn't been sanctioned by Cons' Leavers?
Slightly pathetic tbh.
Been shown up by IDS?
Come out with a preposterous budget that the HoC promised not to pass?
Just plonked another £40 on Leave at 8s. Leaves price is genuinely ridiculous at this point, especially the possibility of differential turnout in WWC areas swinging things massively away from the polling.
Just plonked another £40 on Leave at 8s. Leaves price is genuinely ridiculous at this point, especially the possibility of differential turnout in WWC areas swinging things massively away from the polling.
Just plonked another £40 on Leave at 8s. Leaves price is genuinely ridiculous at this point, especially the possibility of differential turnout in WWC areas swinging things massively away from the polling.
Okay Sky is really pissing me off talking about EU funding for all these different parts of the UK. Its not EU funding. Its UK taxpayers money laundered back to us via the EU.
@BBCVickiYoung: Dozens of Tory MPs sign letter supporting Cameron. Talking to many in last week they were backing PM but gunning for Osborne. #euref
#OsborneOut
He would be made a scapegoat by bitter losers. What has he done that no one else has done in the Cons party who has been for Remain? What has he alone done that hasn't been sanctioned by Cons' Leavers?
Slightly pathetic tbh.
Been shown up by IDS?
Come out with a preposterous budget that the HoC promised not to pass?
IDS has never shown anyone up since Pirbright, if ever.
The budget may or may not have been preposterous but do you suppose it was GO acting alone, as a rogue, or as part of the overall campaign?
Okay Sky is really pissing me off talking about EU funding for all these different parts of the UK. Its not EU funding. Its UK taxpayers money laundered back to us via the EU.
Yes, they never tell you how much that means us in the South East are having to contribute to make up the difference.
Okay Sky is really pissing me off talking about EU funding for all these different parts of the UK. Its not EU funding. Its UK taxpayers money laundered back to us via the EU.
Richard. Come over to BBC. The water is lovely. Really. Come over.....
Just plonked another £40 on Leave at 8s. Leaves price is genuinely ridiculous at this point, especially the possibility of differential turnout in WWC areas swinging things massively away from the polling.
OTOH a rising tide floated all boats in Sindy...
IndyRef mirrored the voting patterns of a general election. Everything that seems to be known about this says its not going to work that way in this vote. As you said earlier, polling using the GE voting as a basis for weighting is going to be wrong.
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Private UKIP exit poll shows Leave victory apparently.
Jan Britton @janbritton 30s31 seconds ago
Ballot boxes are arriving. Counting process has begun. Turnout looks like it's healthy but not as high as the 75% I predicted this morning.
Okay Sarcasm off but he just really annoys me.
Very pleased to have taken part!
But still glad you got to take part given how much it means to us all.
Heres hoping
lovely to see democracy matter like that. well done southam
To sleep perchance to dream or once more unto the breach? Ay there's the rub.
My partner was manning a polling station in west end of Glasgow, turnout 66%, which is considerably higher than at the Holyrood election.
SouthamObserverParticipant.
https://twitter.com/philipjcowley/status/746092700915613697
Just when you thought he couldn't get any more ludicrous.
Well done! You have IMO made a fantastic contribution to the debate on here.
(sparsely populated, though).
Kerching!!
Instead, this is about unifying the party for the next leader, and also about manoeuvring to be the unifying figure, amongst the would-be successors. Boris, for example, absolutely needs to get the support of Remainers and Cameroons, if he's to have any chance. Of course he's making a big show of being loyal. He would, wouldn't he? There's nothing to lose by protesting your loyalty at this stage, and everything to lose by appearing to be disloyal.
Slightly pathetic tbh.
Come out with a preposterous budget that the HoC promised not to pass?
Not sure how long I'll stay up for, though.
What've Sky been doing?
The budget may or may not have been preposterous but do you suppose it was GO acting alone, as a rogue, or as part of the overall campaign?
sums it up really