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Hello and welcome once again to this European extravaganza; this celebration of all that is best and brightest about this continent; this joyous coming together of nations near and far. Oh all right, who am I kidding?
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“Labour’s performance in 2016 was squarely in line with what one might expect a year into a parliament where the opposition is not going to win the general election,” Baston said.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/may/14/labour-struggling-attract-working-class-voters-analysis-fabian-society
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/may/14/venezuela-president-declares-60-day-state-of-emergency-blaming-us-for-instability
Corbynism in action...
Back Belarus, loser already
Back France
Lay Le Royaume-Uni.
Hertsmere Pubgoer's tip of someone to get nil point is also excellent.
UK vict'ry would be a surprise
Joe and Jake soon will say
(when you stand there and pay)
"Here's your change, here's your Big Mac and fries"
When you "pull a Benedict Arnold", you sell out your side and join the stronger side of a situation out of fear, not honor.
http://tinyurl.com/juyrdds
Benedict Arnold was a top top bloke. Like me he put the interests of The United Kingdom ahead of the interests of a bunch of narrow little nationalists.
I'm honoured to be spoken in the same breath as Benedict Arnold.
BRITAIN'S BETTER OFF OUTSIDE EUROPE!
Bring back the juries of the Great and Good (the Luvvies), Select a gay group to play a gay song, dress camply, and have a transgender singer in a wheelchair as lead singer.
Yes, you'll lose the Eastern European vote but they only vote for each other anyway. The virtue-signallers will fall over themselves to vote for it, no matter how bad the song.
And yes, I'm still bitter over the Polish milkmaid's defeat.
I miss Katie Boyle...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36293324
Time to just shut down the shit show that is FIFA and start again.
From the first picture, looks like Remain are going to be pushing the BS gravity modelled bollock numbers to the max. Very helpful of the BBC to make sure we notice. If it had been Farage, they would have just draw a Hitler moustache instead.
Most people care most about the economy *as it impacts them*. That is why the 1989-1992 recession is seen as far worse than the 2008 one for many.
Immigration is a secondary issue until it reaches extreme levels. Once it reaches extreme levels (ie enough to distort the wages for a trade or enough to drive rent up/make social housing diffucult to obtain) then immigration IS "the economy" because it is the biggest factor affecting the economy for affected people.
We fought a civil war on the basis that tax should not be raised except by those we elect to govern us, and yet that we are supposed to see that possibility of slightly more leeway, over a small area of one of our many taxes as some sort of great victory is shocking in its small mindedness and lack of vision.
"We should lift our eyes to more distant skies, and reclaim that birthright that we once took for granted"
FPT:
edmundintokyo said:
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Britain isn't great at infrastructure but it's not remotely as bad as you make out. There are all kinds of infrastructure projects in the UK sit on hold for decades because there isn't enough money to build them, then once there's enough demand (and enough taxpayers to fund it) it gets built. Crossrail and its predecessors were discussed forever. There was never enough money to build it until the high-immigration 2000s. It is actually happening, and it is actually going to open.<<
So, to precis, we have to have high immigration otherwise we would never build the things we need to build because of high immigration?
Well, it is a view. Not a very persuasive one, but it is definitely a view.
Moving on, I'm now convinced that in the event of Remain the Conservative Party is finished. Read the attitude of the Tory Remainers on here, on June 24th they'll be even more smug, as if their sneering insults were justified. They might win the referendum but their life long love, the Conservative Party, won't forgive that easily.
The assumption are wrong, but the result would be the same whether you used a good model or a bad one.
I wrote an article on this sort of group think here
http://aconservatives.blogspot.com/2016/05/imf-independently-predict-disaster-if.html
So I suspect that after a while there’ll be a somewhat general grudging forgive and forget, although some serious personal animosities will continue.
Hardly surprising. The wealthier are the more you are within the same circle as similar people in other European countries and the more foreign your own countries hoipolloi are.
I suspect the nordic countries and Germany are also worried that UK leaving will tip the balance of power more towards spendthrift and corruopt countries in southern and eastern Europe.
Once a narrow leave vote hits them squarely between the eyes I suspect they will be rather more willing to engage in sensible negotiations.
http://www.euronews.com/2016/05/12/martin-schulz-the-european-union-is-in-a-dismal-state/
Seriously Germany is too small?
Eurozone needs to move to one government?
Hasn't anyone noticed the history of Europe and the middle east and all the grand projects to build un natural countries?
The really odd thing is that "they" are marching on regardless.
Yugoslavia anyone? Syria? Iraq? All countries with borders set by elites. Doesn't end well.
You google me, respond almost constantly to my posts and spout irrelevant drivel. I will state now that I won't bother replying at any stage to your inane, paranoid ramblings. Its obvious our paths have crossed previously but do me a favour and fuck off. You're just a pest.
All Leavers who back the government's economic and fiscal plans are backing policies predicated on high levels of immigration.
Why do you deserve a favour from me?
Surely there must be some taboo in quoting yourself as an authority to back up what you say.
(a) Cameron's leaving before the next election, and
(b) Labour are led by Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonnell.
Given (b), once (a) happens they'll pick a leader that they can all live with.
(Also as soon as Labour come to their senses you have to fight for every vote in the centre, and still only get a third of them, the votes on the right are more or less there for the taking)
If Cameron has in fact “done a Peel” and split the party, then it behoves those of us who vote Left or Centre Left (if those terms are still meaningful) to coalesce round something or someone who can provide a rational liberal alternative. Quite frankly I don’t think Cameron can, nor do I think he should even try. He’s damaged goods. I don’t think Corbyn can do it either; don’t think he thinks things through enough. Sadly, I can’t see anyone else, though.
I’d like to think it was Farron, but I don’t see it there, either.
We need a strong and united Conservative Party and a strong and united Labour party got good governance, we have neither ergo we have poor governance. This lot are dreadful, no better than the coalition or Brown previously.
You are fine if you choose the winning side for the wrong reasons, or the losing side for the right reasons.
Arnold - like you might have done - chose the losing side for the wrong reasons
[Benedict Arnold has a lot to answer for!]