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    OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 32,047

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    chestnut said:
    I think we've missed a real opportunity here. We could have recreated EFTA as a free trade bloc that was outside the EU's political remit, with no CAP.

    We'd have taken Sweden, and Denmark from inside the EU. We'd have brought Norway and co together from outside. It would have been the perfect destination for all who didn't buy into ever closer union, but liked the idea of a continent wide free trade block - including things like financial services, which we hugely benefit from.

    But unfortunately, because the destination is 'completely out, way more out than Norway, or even Switzerland', then (a) it seems unlikely that the referendum will be won, (b) it is much more likely to be near-term disruptive, and therefore unappealing to encourage others to follow us, and (c) for Sweden, which is completely surrounded by EEA states, they aren't going to go to our status, even if they did leave the EU.
    Let's wait and see. There are lots of options within the broad sweep of what Gove announced on Tuesday.
    @Casino

    I'm incredibly disappointed by Gove. I wanted Norway.

    EFTA/EEA is off the table now, because the official policy of Vote Leave is for something else.

    I'm still probably going to vote for Leave. But, I was fired up. Now it will be resignation, and disappointment in an opportunity lost.
    I suppose the advantage of taking Gove's position is that, in the event of LEAVE. Govt. will be so busy with assorted renegotiations and the legislative consequences, that no-one will have time to mess about with the NHS or Education.
    Like in 1944, then?

    When the PM is distracted by bigger matters, it's an ideal time for ministers to go their own way with pet projects.
    Good point; or the exception that proves the rule. Anyway, Churchill didn't tend to micro-manage.
    Churchill micromanaged horribly (in both senses of the word) - though not in education.
    Was that why the Beveridge Report was pigeon-holed until after 1945. Must admit my knowledge of the detail of history at that period is limited.
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    OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 32,047

    Sean_F said:

    O/T but I see Ched Evans' conviction has been quashed by the Court of Appeal, and a retrial ordered.

    From the Guardian " three appeal judges on Thursday quashed the conviction after fresh evidence emerged. Details can not be reported for legal reasons."

    Hmmm.

    Why "hmm". The evidence will probably be used in the new trial.

    Just wondering what's going to be presented, given the reports. And no, I'm not someone who believes women can "ask for it".
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