@AM - yes, I agree. Their last prediction was the same as my prediction in the pb competition forecast.
I'm sticking with 58:42 to Remain. I expect a significant late swing to Remain in the final fortnight.
However, this might not show up clearly in all the polls, particularly the online ones.
That's my view too. I think quite a lot of people will 'bottle it' at the last minute.
But don't be too depressed. There'll be another referendum in eight or nine years time that will go the right way.
No guarantee of that, Robert, particularly if we don't get a Conservative majority government with a Leave PM.
This could be it.
If the clear will of the British people is to leave, then there will be a vote. And there'll be a vote because politicians - above all - seek to be elected. If "Leave" is an election winning platform, or if UKIP is yapping at the Conservative Party's heels, then another vote will shall have.
Yes, that works in theory but it doesn't mean another vote is around the corner, or anything like it.
If the pressure from the EU for more integration intensifies, then I suspect it does.
Chill, brother.
I want to skip the next couple of months and jump straight to my holiday in Thailand after the referendum.
In the somewhat appropriately named, Phuket.
Brexit means you won't be allowed back in the UK after your holiday.
Can we assume that John McDonnell having publishing his Tax Returns some months ago was "tipped off" by The Guardian that they were going to break this story during the recess? If so, didn't it occur to Jeremy Corbyn to get his chaotic filing system in order? I don't have any particular reason to say this but my instincts tell me there is the beginning of a shift in the relationship between McDonnell and Corbyn. In my view, McDonnell is far more dangerous and now believes Corbyn isn't up to it.
@rustinpeace00: Any other politician who said they'd lost their tax return would be called a liar. With Corbyn, it's completely believable. Totally inept.
It would be quite funny if, in a fit of absent-mindedness, Jez had forgot to declare income from overseas press/propoganda organisations.
A lot of people on here are assuming that Muslims in Britain have conservative views on Homosexuality, and that is because they aren't "intergrated" and all that has to happen is for them to come more in contact and mix with white/gay people and they will slowly change conservatism. This is total BS. I know many many Muslims probably more than most on here, and most of them ARE already "mixing". They go to Universities that are mixed have white, brown and green friends, work in Boots, asda , tesco etc heck some are even friends with gay people. But that does not change thier conservatism one bit. They couldn't be more "mixed" but they still hold opposing view and always will do. This is all in London btw.
@AM - yes, I agree. Their last prediction was the same as my prediction in the pb competition forecast.
I'm sticking with 58:42 to Remain. I expect a significant late swing to Remain in the final fortnight.
However, this might not show up clearly in all the polls, particularly the online ones.
That's my view too. I think quite a lot of people will 'bottle it' at the last minute.
But don't be too depressed. There'll be another referendum in eight or nine years time that will go the right way.
No guarantee of that, Robert, particularly if we don't get a Conservative majority government with a Leave PM.
This could be it.
If the clear will of the British people is to leave, then there will be a vote. And there'll be a vote because politicians - above all - seek to be elected. If "Leave" is an election winning platform, or if UKIP is yapping at the Conservative Party's heels, then another vote will shall have.
Yes, that works in theory but it doesn't mean another vote is around the corner, or anything like it.
If the pressure from the EU for more integration intensifies, then I suspect it does.
Chill, brother.
I want to skip the next couple of months and jump straight to my holiday in Thailand after the referendum.
In the somewhat appropriately named, Phuket.
Brexit means you won't be allowed back in the UK after your holiday.
A British passport will crumble into dust at midnight on the 24th.
For Mike's sake. Discussions about the details of super injunctions et al are off limits.
I know it seems draconian but Mike doesn't want to receive any more legal letters and threats as he has in the past.
We can't claim to be a little obscure part of the Internet when even the PM reads PB
I am sure he knows TSE.
The point about this super injunction is not whether there is any public interest in the story (very hard to see to be honest) or even that the story is that interesting (a matter of taste I suppose). The problem is that after a few years of a breather we seem to be back in a situation where the law is being brought into disrepute by the wealthy and made to look ridiculous. This is a bad thing. I really don't know what the Court of Appeal were playing at.
I thought the courts had got the message after the Ryan Giggs story and the far more serious Trafigura case (where there clearly was a substantial public interest) but apparently not. This needs legislation.
@rustinpeace00: Any other politician who said they'd lost their tax return would be called a liar. With Corbyn, it's completely believable. Totally inept.
He just has to ring Inland Revenue [ there is a separate district for Parliamentarians ] and I am sure they will send him a copy after some security checks. They know who he is.
It is also perfectly possible that he did not file one as his only source of earning is possibly through PAYE. I know that the IR did not send the Tax Return to everybody. They knew who really needed it.
One thing I am pretty sure about is that Corbyn will have nothing to be embarrassed about.
A lot of people on here are assuming that Muslims in Britain have conservative views on Homosexuality, and that is because they aren't "intergrated" and all that has to happen is for them to come more in contact and mix with white/gay people and they will slowly change conservatism. This is total BS. I know many many Muslims probably more than most on here, and most of them ARE already "mixing". They go to Universities that are mixed have white, brown and green friends, work in Boots, asda , tesco etc heck some are even friends with gay people. But that does not change thier conservatism one bit. They couldn't be more "mixed" but they still hold opposing view and always will do. This is all in London btw.
"It will mean political parties no longer turning a blind eye to appalling misdemeanours in return for votes from community leaders – so-called silence-for-votes deals which created havoc in Rotherham and Rochdale and contributed to the grooming scandals in those towns."
Misdemeanours is not the word I would use, but hey ho.
@rustinpeace00: Any other politician who said they'd lost their tax return would be called a liar. With Corbyn, it's completely believable. Totally inept.
He just has to ring Inland Revenue [ there is a separate district for Parliamentarians ] and I am sure they will send him a copy after some security checks. They know who he is.
It is also perfectly possible that he did not file one as his only source of earning is possibly through PAYE. I know that the IR did not send the Tax Return to everybody. They knew who really needed it.
One thing I am pretty sure about is that Corbyn will have nothing to be embarrassed about.
Must say I wondered if he would have one. It is possible he might have got paid for some article or other but other than as an MP he strikes me as pretty unemployable. And even for an MP he is a pretty marginal case.
I thought the courts had got the message after the Ryan Giggs story and the far more serious Trafigura case (where there clearly was a substantial public interest) but apparently not. This needs legislation.
Will legislation get us anywhere ? This ruling appears to be based on the increasingly misused and abused Article 8.
@AM - yes, I agree. Their last prediction was the same as my prediction in the pb competition forecast.
I'm sticking with 58:42 to Remain. I expect a significant late swing to Remain in the final fortnight.
However, this might not show up clearly in all the polls, particularly the online ones.
That's my view too. I think quite a lot of people will 'bottle it' at the last minute.
But don't be too depressed. There'll be another referendum in eight or nine years time that will go the right way.
No guarantee of that, Robert, particularly if we don't get a Conservative majority government with a Leave PM.
This could be it.
If the clear will of the British people is to leave, then there will be a vote. And there'll be a vote because politicians - above all - seek to be elected. If "Leave" is an election winning platform, or if UKIP is yapping at the Conservative Party's heels, then another vote will shall have.
Yes, that works in theory but it doesn't mean another vote is around the corner, or anything like it.
If the pressure from the EU for more integration intensifies, then I suspect it does.
Chill, brother.
I want to skip the next couple of months and jump straight to my holiday in Thailand after the referendum.
In the somewhat appropriately named, Phuket.
Brexit means you won't be allowed back in the UK after your holiday.
A British passport will crumble into dust at midnight on the 24th.
What will happen to British citizens is what happened to Walter Donovan when he drank from the 'wrong' Grail.
@rustinpeace00: Any other politician who said they'd lost their tax return would be called a liar. With Corbyn, it's completely believable. Totally inept.
He just has to ring Inland Revenue [ there is a separate district for Parliamentarians ] and I am sure they will send him a copy after some security checks. They know who he is.
It is also perfectly possible that he did not file one as his only source of earning is possibly through PAYE. I know that the IR did not send the Tax Return to everybody. They knew who really needed it.
One thing I am pretty sure about is that Corbyn will have nothing to be embarrassed about.
Must say I wondered if he would have one. It is possible he might have got paid for some article or other but other than as an MP he strikes me as pretty unemployable. And even for an MP he is a pretty marginal case.
Wasn't he on Russia Today a fair bit before he was leader or am I misremembering ?
PS Aren't you meant to keep your tax records for seven years? Has Corbyn not followed the rules?
@rustinpeace00: Any other politician who said they'd lost their tax return would be called a liar. With Corbyn, it's completely believable. Totally inept.
He just has to ring Inland Revenue [ there is a separate district for Parliamentarians ] and I am sure they will send him a copy after some security checks. They know who he is.
It is also perfectly possible that he did not file one as his only source of earning is possibly through PAYE. I know that the IR did not send the Tax Return to everybody. They knew who really needed it.
One thing I am pretty sure about is that Corbyn will have nothing to be embarrassed about.
Must say I wondered if he would have one. It is possible he might have got paid for some article or other but other than as an MP he strikes me as pretty unemployable. And even for an MP he is a pretty marginal case.
@AM - yes, I agree. Their last prediction was the same as my prediction in the pb competition forecast.
I'm sticking with 58:42 to Remain. I expect a significant late swing to Remain in the final fortnight.
However, this might not show up clearly in all the polls, particularly the online ones.
That's my view too. I think quite a lot of people will 'bottle it' at the last minute.
But don't be too depressed. There'll be another referendum in eight or nine years time that will go the right way.
No guarantee of that, Robert, particularly if we don't get a Conservative majority government with a Leave PM.
This could be it.
If the clear will of the British people is to leave, then there will be a vote. And there'll be a vote because politicians - above all - seek to be elected. If "Leave" is an election winning platform, or if UKIP is yapping at the Conservative Party's heels, then another vote will shall have.
Yes, that works in theory but it doesn't mean another vote is around the corner, or anything like it.
If the pressure from the EU for more integration intensifies, then I suspect it does.
Chill, brother.
I want to skip the next couple of months and jump straight to my holiday in Thailand after the referendum.
In the somewhat appropriately named, Phuket.
Brexit means you won't be allowed back in the UK after your holiday.
A British passport will crumble into dust at midnight on the 24th.
What will happen to British citizens is what happened to Walter Donovan when he drank from the 'wrong' Grail.
For Mike's sake. Discussions about the details of super injunctions et al are off limits.
I know it seems draconian but Mike doesn't want to receive any more legal letters and threats as he has in the past.
We can't claim to be a little obscure part of the Internet when even the PM reads PB
I am sure he knows TSE.
The point about this super injunction is not whether there is any public interest in the story (very hard to see to be honest) or even that the story is that interesting (a matter of taste I suppose). The problem is that after a few years of a breather we seem to be back in a situation where the law is being brought into disrepute by the wealthy and made to look ridiculous. This is a bad thing. I really don't know what the Court of Appeal were playing at.
I thought the courts had got the message after the Ryan Giggs story and the far more serious Trafigura case (where there clearly was a substantial public interest) but apparently not. This needs legislation.
It is a bloody joke, you should have seen some of the threats made against even bloggers in the past for even hinting at the existence of a particular super injunction.
I thought the courts had got the message after the Ryan Giggs story and the far more serious Trafigura case (where there clearly was a substantial public interest) but apparently not. This needs legislation.
Will legislation get us anywhere ? This ruling appears to be based on the increasingly misused and abused Article 8.
Legislation could impose restrictions on the scope of the order the court could make. An order which does not even allow disclosure that it exists is, in my view, an unacceptable balance between rights of privacy and freedom of speech.
Must say I wondered if he would have one. It is possible he might have got paid for some article or other but other than as an MP he strikes me as pretty unemployable. And even for an MP he is a pretty marginal case.
If memory serves me correctly, all MPs have to fill in tax returns, presumably on the basis that HMRC views them (like company directors!) as automatically dodgy.
Must say I wondered if he would have one. It is possible he might have got paid for some article or other but other than as an MP he strikes me as pretty unemployable. And even for an MP he is a pretty marginal case.
If memory serves me correctly, all MPs have to fill in tax returns, presumably on the basis that (like company directors!) HMRC views them as dodgy.
@rustinpeace00: Any other politician who said they'd lost their tax return would be called a liar. With Corbyn, it's completely believable. Totally inept.
He just has to ring Inland Revenue [ there is a separate district for Parliamentarians ] and I am sure they will send him a copy after some security checks. They know who he is.
It is also perfectly possible that he did not file one as his only source of earning is possibly through PAYE. I know that the IR did not send the Tax Return to everybody. They knew who really needed it.
One thing I am pretty sure about is that Corbyn will have nothing to be embarrassed about.
If he earned interest on savings he would have needed a tax return. Ditto if he got paid by any outside groups or newspapers. Did he have any shares or interests in his wife's business?
I agree with your last sentence. A man who is not embarrassed by inviting the IRA to tea and calling Hamas "friends" is not likely to be embarrassed by his tax return.
@rustinpeace00: Any other politician who said they'd lost their tax return would be called a liar. With Corbyn, it's completely believable. Totally inept.
He just has to ring Inland Revenue [ there is a separate district for Parliamentarians ] and I am sure they will send him a copy after some security checks. They know who he is.
It is also perfectly possible that he did not file one as his only source of earning is possibly through PAYE. I know that the IR did not send the Tax Return to everybody. They knew who really needed it.
One thing I am pretty sure about is that Corbyn will have nothing to be embarrassed about.
Must say I wondered if he would have one. It is possible he might have got paid for some article or other but other than as an MP he strikes me as pretty unemployable. And even for an MP he is a pretty marginal case.
Wasn't he on Russia Today a fair bit before he was leader or am I misremembering ?
PS Aren't you meant to keep your tax records for seven years? Has Corbyn not followed the rules?
Is that not what we pay accountants to do for us? I mean I am sure I could find them if I really had to....
(oh lord, as incompetent as Corbyn. Hangs head in shame.)
Must say I wondered if he would have one. It is possible he might have got paid for some article or other but other than as an MP he strikes me as pretty unemployable. And even for an MP he is a pretty marginal case.
If memory serves me correctly, all MPs have to fill in tax returns, presumably on the basis that HMRC views them (like company directors!) as automatically dodgy.
You may well be right Richard. HMRC certainly are!
@rustinpeace00: Any other politician who said they'd lost their tax return would be called a liar. With Corbyn, it's completely believable. Totally inept.
He just has to ring Inland Revenue [ there is a separate district for Parliamentarians ] and I am sure they will send him a copy after some security checks. They know who he is.
It is also perfectly possible that he did not file one as his only source of earning is possibly through PAYE. I know that the IR did not send the Tax Return to everybody. They knew who really needed it.
One thing I am pretty sure about is that Corbyn will have nothing to be embarrassed about.
Must say I wondered if he would have one. It is possible he might have got paid for some article or other but other than as an MP he strikes me as pretty unemployable. And even for an MP he is a pretty marginal case.
Wasn't he on Russia Today a fair bit before he was leader or am I misremembering ?
PS Aren't you meant to keep your tax records for seven years? Has Corbyn not followed the rules?
Is that not what we pay accountants to do for us? I mean I am sure I could find them if I really had to....
(oh lord, as incompetent as Corbyn. Hangs head in shame.)
I always have mine to hand. You need to when HMRC's incompetence means they think you owe them a lot of tax.
@rustinpeace00: Any other politician who said they'd lost their tax return would be called a liar. With Corbyn, it's completely believable. Totally inept.
He just has to ring Inland Revenue [ there is a separate district for Parliamentarians ] and I am sure they will send him a copy after some security checks. They know who he is.
It is also perfectly possible that he did not file one as his only source of earning is possibly through PAYE. I know that the IR did not send the Tax Return to everybody. They knew who really needed it.
One thing I am pretty sure about is that Corbyn will have nothing to be embarrassed about.
If he earned interest on savings he would have needed a tax return.
Does that apply if tax on the interest is deducted at source?
@rustinpeace00: Any other politician who said they'd lost their tax return would be called a liar. With Corbyn, it's completely believable. Totally inept.
He just has to ring Inland Revenue [ there is a separate district for Parliamentarians ] and I am sure they will send him a copy after some security checks. They know who he is.
It is also perfectly possible that he did not file one as his only source of earning is possibly through PAYE. I know that the IR did not send the Tax Return to everybody. They knew who really needed it.
One thing I am pretty sure about is that Corbyn will have nothing to be embarrassed about.
Must say I wondered if he would have one. It is possible he might have got paid for some article or other but other than as an MP he strikes me as pretty unemployable. And even for an MP he is a pretty marginal case.
Wasn't he on Russia Today a fair bit before he was leader or am I misremembering ?
PS Aren't you meant to keep your tax records for seven years? Has Corbyn not followed the rules?
Is that not what we pay accountants to do for us? I mean I am sure I could find them if I really had to....
(oh lord, as incompetent as Corbyn. Hangs head in shame.)
I always have mine to hand. You need to when HMRC's incompetence means they think you owe them a lot of tax.
Curious. When I was in partnership I never had any dealings at all with HMRC. It was all done for me in the sort of Rolls Royce service I can't afford anymore. It has got a lot more onerous since I became a one man band.
I was listening to a leading UK Imam on radio 4 yesterday. His line was that Muslims should integrate but that is not the same as assimilate. Integration for him meant they live apart according to Islamic law but in Bradford not Islamabad! We have a very long way to go.
This to my mind should be wholly unacceptable.
That's your mind. Doubtless the Imam would wish Western culture to be abolished as unIslamic. That's his.
Muslims who kill westerners are at least taking their religion - and our lack of it - seriously.
If he doesn't want Western culture, he's free to reject it. But in that case he can go and live in Islamabad and not in a Western country. What he can't do is demand and get the fruits of Western culture without any of the obligations that go with it.
This is a gigantic F*** Y** to the rest of us and we have tolerated it for far too long, to our shame and to our detriment.
MPs do have a separate form to fill out for their tax return, covering the mixture of salary and expenses - you get a standard printout from the Commons office that goes with it. When I was an MP we were the only profession not allowed to submit returns online for that reason - don't know if that's changed.
A lot of people on here are assuming that Muslims in Britain have conservative views on Homosexuality, and that is because they aren't "intergrated" and all that has to happen is for them to come more in contact and mix with white/gay people and they will slowly change conservatism. This is total BS. I know many many Muslims probably more than most on here, and most of them ARE already "mixing". They go to Universities that are mixed have white, brown and green friends, work in Boots, asda , tesco etc heck some are even friends with gay people. But that does not change thier conservatism one bit. They couldn't be more "mixed" but they still hold opposing view and always will do. This is all in London btw.
A lot of people on here are assuming that Muslims in Britain have conservative views on Homosexuality, and that is because they aren't "intergrated" and all that has to happen is for them to come more in contact and mix with white/gay people and they will slowly change conservatism. This is total BS. I know many many Muslims probably more than most on here, and most of them ARE already "mixing". They go to Universities that are mixed have white, brown and green friends, work in Boots, asda , tesco etc heck some are even friends with gay people. But that does not change thier conservatism one bit. They couldn't be more "mixed" but they still hold opposing view and always will do. This is all in London btw.
@rustinpeace00: Any other politician who said they'd lost their tax return would be called a liar. With Corbyn, it's completely believable. Totally inept.
He just has to ring Inland Revenue [ there is a separate district for Parliamentarians ] and I am sure they will send him a copy after some security checks. They know who he is.
It is also perfectly possible that he did not file one as his only source of earning is possibly through PAYE. I know that the IR did not send the Tax Return to everybody. They knew who really needed it.
One thing I am pretty sure about is that Corbyn will have nothing to be embarrassed about.
If he earned interest on savings he would have needed a tax return.
Does that apply if tax on the interest is deducted at source?
Yes - because he would be a higher rate taxpayer and so would need to declare any interest so that the higher rate could be applied.
@rustinpeace00: Any other politician who said they'd lost their tax return would be called a liar. With Corbyn, it's completely believable. Totally inept.
He just has to ring Inland Revenue [ there is a separate district for Parliamentarians ] and I am sure they will send him a copy after some security checks. They know who he is.
It is also perfectly possible that he did not file one as his only source of earning is possibly through PAYE. I know that the IR did not send the Tax Return to everybody. They knew who really needed it.
One thing I am pretty sure about is that Corbyn will have nothing to be embarrassed about.
Must say I wondered if he would have one. It is possible he might have got paid for some article or other but other than as an MP he strikes me as pretty unemployable. And even for an MP he is a pretty marginal case.
Wasn't he on Russia Today a fair bit before he was leader or am I misremembering ?
PS Aren't you meant to keep your tax records for seven years? Has Corbyn not followed the rules?
Is that not what we pay accountants to do for us? I mean I am sure I could find them if I really had to....
(oh lord, as incompetent as Corbyn. Hangs head in shame.)
I always have mine to hand. You need to when HMRC's incompetence means they think you owe them a lot of tax.
Curious. When I was in partnership I never had any dealings at all with HMRC. It was all done for me in the sort of Rolls Royce service I can't afford anymore. It has got a lot more onerous since I became a one man band.
My issues happened when I left one job, but still had use of a company car and fuel card, and when I sold my house I wanted to return the deposit and mortgage payments my parents had contributed plus a bit extra.
The first part, even if they were right (they weren't) the tax due was around £1,200. They were acting like it was £1.2 million.
MPs do have a separate form to fill out for their tax return, covering the mixture of salary and expenses - you get a standard printout from the Commons office that goes with it. When I was an MP we were the only profession not allowed to submit returns online for that reason - don't know if that's changed.
Anyone who needs to fill out the "Foreign" form also can't file online.
I thought the courts had got the message after the Ryan Giggs story and the far more serious Trafigura case (where there clearly was a substantial public interest) but apparently not. This needs legislation.
Will legislation get us anywhere ? This ruling appears to be based on the increasingly misused and abused Article 8.
Legislation could impose restrictions on the scope of the order the court could make. An order which does not even allow disclosure that it exists is, in my view, an unacceptable balance between rights of privacy and freedom of speech.
I agree. Also if parents don't want to let their young children read something about them in the press or on the internet they can control their access to both. It's not hard to do.
There is an article to be written about our confused approach to privacy. I may do one - though it has no betting angle that I can see - if only to help clarify my own views on the issue. At the moment, we have everything arse over tip on the topic, as it were.
Must say I wondered if he would have one. It is possible he might have got paid for some article or other but other than as an MP he strikes me as pretty unemployable. And even for an MP he is a pretty marginal case.
If memory serves me correctly, all MPs have to fill in tax returns, presumably on the basis that HMRC views them (like company directors!) as automatically dodgy.
You may well be right Richard. HMRC certainly are!
My issues happened when I left one job, but still had use of a company car and petrol card, and when I sold my house I wanted to return the deposit and mortgage payments my parents had contributed plus a bit extra.
The first part, even if they were right (they weren't) the tax due was around £1,200. They were acting like it was £1.2 million.
I blame your shoes. Anyone with shoes like that is clearly at it in a big way.
@rustinpeace00: Any other politician who said they'd lost their tax return would be called a liar. With Corbyn, it's completely believable. Totally inept.
He just has to ring Inland Revenue [ there is a separate district for Parliamentarians ] and I am sure they will send him a copy after some security checks. They know who he is.
It is also perfectly possible that he did not file one as his only source of earning is possibly through PAYE. I know that the IR did not send the Tax Return to everybody. They knew who really needed it.
One thing I am pretty sure about is that Corbyn will have nothing to be embarrassed about.
Must say I wondered if he would have one. It is possible he might have got paid for some article or other but other than as an MP he strikes me as pretty unemployable. And even for an MP he is a pretty marginal case.
I thought the courts had got the message after the Ryan Giggs story and the far more serious Trafigura case (where there clearly was a substantial public interest) but apparently not. This needs legislation.
Will legislation get us anywhere ? This ruling appears to be based on the increasingly misused and abused Article 8.
Legislation could impose restrictions on the scope of the order the court could make. An order which does not even allow disclosure that it exists is, in my view, an unacceptable balance between rights of privacy and freedom of speech.
I agree. Also if parents don't want to let their young children read something about them in the press or on the internet they can control their access to both. It's not hard to do.
There is an article to be written about our confused approach to privacy. I may do one - though it has no betting angle that I can see - if only to help clarify my own views on the issue. At the moment, we have everything arse over tip on the topic, as it were.
@rustinpeace00: Any other politician who said they'd lost their tax return would be called a liar. With Corbyn, it's completely believable. Totally inept.
He just has to ring Inland Revenue [ there is a separate district for Parliamentarians ] and I am sure they will send him a copy after some security checks. They know who he is.
It is also perfectly possible that he did not file one as his only source of earning is possibly through PAYE. I know that the IR did not send the Tax Return to everybody. They knew who really needed it.
One thing I am pretty sure about is that Corbyn will have nothing to be embarrassed about.
Must say I wondered if he would have one. It is possible he might have got paid for some article or other but other than as an MP he strikes me as pretty unemployable. And even for an MP he is a pretty marginal case.
Wasn't he on Russia Today a fair bit before he was leader or am I misremembering ?
PS Aren't you meant to keep your tax records for seven years? Has Corbyn not followed the rules?
Is that not what we pay accountants to do for us? I mean I am sure I could find them if I really had to....
(oh lord, as incompetent as Corbyn. Hangs head in shame.)
I always have mine to hand. You need to when HMRC's incompetence means they think you owe them a lot of tax.
Curious. When I was in partnership I never had any dealings at all with HMRC. It was all done for me in the sort of Rolls Royce service I can't afford anymore. It has got a lot more onerous since I became a one man band.
My issues happened when I left one job, but still had use of a company car and petrol card, and when I sold my house I wanted to return the deposit and mortgage payments my parents had contributed plus a bit extra.
The first part, even if they were right (they weren't) the tax due was around £1,200. They were acting like it was £1.2 million.
A quick way to depress yourself is to calculate the % of government spending that goes on debt interest and then apply that percentage to your own tax contributions.
When I did to my own tax contributions last year I think it worked out as something like me paying £2000, personally, to service the national debt.
Imagine how you'd baulk if that were your own credit card?
@rustinpeace00: Any other politician who said they'd lost their tax return would be called a liar. With Corbyn, it's completely believable. Totally inept.
He just has to ring Inland Revenue [ there is a separate district for Parliamentarians ] and I am sure they will send him a copy after some security checks. They know who he is.
It is also perfectly possible that he did not file one as his only source of earning is possibly through PAYE. I know that the IR did not send the Tax Return to everybody. They knew who really needed it.
One thing I am pretty sure about is that Corbyn will have nothing to be embarrassed about.
Must say I wondered if he would have one. It is possible he might have got paid for some article or other but other than as an MP he strikes me as pretty unemployable. And even for an MP he is a pretty marginal case.
MPs do have a separate form to fill out for their tax return, covering the mixture of salary and expenses - you get a standard printout from the Commons office that goes with it. When I was an MP we were the only profession not allowed to submit returns online for that reason - don't know if that's changed.
Anyone who needs to fill out the "Foreign" form also can't file online.
And, as I discovered almost to my cost about three days before the deadline for paper returns, anyone who has inherited a sum on which interest has been paid to the estate before it's distributed to the beneficiaries. This is a real gotcha, and seems completely daft because there are only two boxes to fill on the relevant form (the executors should give you the figures). I cannot understand why HMRC can't include a facility for this on the online return.
@rustinpeace00: Any other politician who said they'd lost their tax return would be called a liar. With Corbyn, it's completely believable. Totally inept.
He just has to ring Inland Revenue [ there is a separate district for Parliamentarians ] and I am sure they will send him a copy after some security checks. They know who he is.
It is also perfectly possible that he did not file one as his only source of earning is possibly through PAYE. I know that the IR did not send the Tax Return to everybody. They knew who really needed it.
One thing I am pretty sure about is that Corbyn will have nothing to be embarrassed about.
Must say I wondered if he would have one. It is possible he might have got paid for some article or other but other than as an MP he strikes me as pretty unemployable. And even for an MP he is a pretty marginal case.
Wasn't he on Russia Today a fair bit before he was leader or am I misremembering ?
PS Aren't you meant to keep your tax records for seven years? Has Corbyn not followed the rules?
Is that not what we pay accountants to do for us? I mean I am sure I could find them if I really had to....
(oh lord, as incompetent as Corbyn. Hangs head in shame.)
I always have mine to hand. You need to when HMRC's incompetence means they think you owe them a lot of tax.
Curious. When I was in partnership I never had any dealings at all with HMRC. It was all done for me in the sort of Rolls Royce service I can't afford anymore. It has got a lot more onerous since I became a one man band.
My issues happened when I left one job, but still had use of a company car and petrol card, and when I sold my house I wanted to return the deposit and mortgage payments my parents had contributed plus a bit extra.
The first part, even if they were right (they weren't) the tax due was around £1,200. They were acting like it was £1.2 million.
A quick way to depress yourself is to calculate the % of government spending that goes on debt interest and then apply that percentage to your own tax contributions.
When I did to my own tax contributions last year I think it worked out as something like me paying £2000, personally, to service the national debt.
Imagine how you'd baulk if that were your own credit card?
MPs do have a separate form to fill out for their tax return, covering the mixture of salary and expenses - you get a standard printout from the Commons office that goes with it. When I was an MP we were the only profession not allowed to submit returns online for that reason - don't know if that's changed.
Anyone who needs to fill out the "Foreign" form also can't file online.
Strictly speaking not true - you just can't do it direct into your HMRC online account. You have to buy an HMRC approved commercial package (eg £19.99 from Andica) and submit it electronically via the package. I did that for the years I was in the Netherlands. It's very easy.
@rustinpeace00: Any other politician who said they'd lost their tax return would be called a liar. With Corbyn, it's completely believable. Totally inept.
He just has to ring Inland Revenue [ there is a separate district for Parliamentarians ] and I am sure they will send him a copy after some security checks. They know who he is.
It is also perfectly possible that he did not file one as his only source of earning is possibly through PAYE. I know that the IR did not send the Tax Return to everybody. They knew who really needed it.
One thing I am pretty sure about is that Corbyn will have nothing to be embarrassed about.
If he earned interest on savings he would have needed a tax return.
Does that apply if tax on the interest is deducted at source?
Unfortunately, it does ! You have to list them line by line. £1.23 and all. That is why doing the Tax Return is so boring !
Trust Jezza! Labour were within an inch of claiming the ultimate political scalps - those of the Prime Minister and Chancellor of the Exchequer. Now this tomfoolery over Jezza's misplaced tax form has plunged the thing into low farce. Ed Miliband would never have made these schoolboy errors.
I always have mine to hand. You need to when HMRC's incompetence means they think you owe them a lot of tax.
Curious. When I was in partnership I never had any dealings at all with HMRC. It was all done for me in the sort of Rolls Royce service I can't afford anymore. It has got a lot more onerous since I became a one man band.
My issues happened when I left one job, but still had use of a company car and petrol card, and when I sold my house I wanted to return the deposit and mortgage payments my parents had contributed plus a bit extra.
The first part, even if they were right (they weren't) the tax due was around £1,200. They were acting like it was £1.2 million.
A quick way to depress yourself is to calculate the % of government spending that goes on debt interest and then apply that percentage to your own tax contributions.
When I did to my own tax contributions last year I think it worked out as something like me paying £2000, personally, to service the national debt.
Imagine how you'd baulk if that were your own credit card?
@rustinpeace00: Any other politician who said they'd lost their tax return would be called a liar. With Corbyn, it's completely believable. Totally inept.
He just has to ring Inland Revenue [ there is a separate district for Parliamentarians ] and I am sure they will send him a copy after some security checks. They know who he is.
It is also perfectly possible that he did not file one as his only source of earning is possibly through PAYE. I know that the IR did not send the Tax Return to everybody. They knew who really needed it.
One thing I am pretty sure about is that Corbyn will have nothing to be embarrassed about.
If he earned interest on savings he would have needed a tax return.
Does that apply if tax on the interest is deducted at source?
Unfortunately, it does ! You have to list them line by line. £1.23 and all. That is why doing the Tax Return is so boring !
Blimey. That must mean nearly everyone needs to do a tax return.
I always have mine to hand. You need to when HMRC's incompetence means they think you owe them a lot of tax.
Curious. When I was in partnership I never had any dealings at all with HMRC. It was all done for me in the sort of Rolls Royce service I can't afford anymore. It has got a lot more onerous since I became a one man band.
My issues happened when I left one job, but still had use of a company car and petrol card, and when I sold my house I wanted to return the deposit and mortgage payments my parents had contributed plus a bit extra.
The first part, even if they were right (they weren't) the tax due was around £1,200. They were acting like it was £1.2 million.
A quick way to depress yourself is to calculate the % of government spending that goes on debt interest and then apply that percentage to your own tax contributions.
When I did to my own tax contributions last year I think it worked out as something like me paying £2000, personally, to service the national debt.
Imagine how you'd baulk if that were your own credit card?
So approximately 5% of all you pay in tax (IT+ NI + VAT + duties) goes in debt interest.
Ouch.
Having 5% of your income go out on debt interest sounds par for the course for a typical mortgage holder with a car loan and a credit card bill. If anything, it is on the low side.
As an aside government debt interest for the UK as a percent of GDP has varied between 2% and 6% over the last 50-odd years, and is currently at the low end of the range.
MPs do have a separate form to fill out for their tax return, covering the mixture of salary and expenses - you get a standard printout from the Commons office that goes with it. When I was an MP we were the only profession not allowed to submit returns online for that reason - don't know if that's changed.
Anyone who needs to fill out the "Foreign" form also can't file online.
Strictly speaking not true - you just can't do it direct into your HMRC online account. You have to buy an HMRC approved commercial package (eg £19.99 from Andica) and submit it electronically via the package. I did that for the years I was in the Netherlands. It's very easy.
Not going to pay some company the privilege of filling in a few boxes on a form for me (literally all those kinds of software actually do).
As an aside government debt interest for the UK as a percent of GDP has varied between 2% and 6% over the last 50-odd years, and is currently at the low end of the range.
The debt also has to be repaid so annual repayments should be added to the interest.
A lot of people on here are assuming that Muslims in Britain have conservative views on Homosexuality, and that is because they aren't "intergrated" and all that has to happen is for them to come more in contact and mix with white/gay people and they will slowly change conservatism. This is total BS. I know many many Muslims probably more than most on here, and most of them ARE already "mixing". They go to Universities that are mixed have white, brown and green friends, work in Boots, asda , tesco etc heck some are even friends with gay people. But that does not change thier conservatism one bit. They couldn't be more "mixed" but they still hold opposing view and always will do. This is all in London btw.
The survey did show quite a lot of integration, including social mixing in various forms as well feeling represented by their MPs etc.
The young were significantly more tolerant of homosexuality, so while certainly more "socially conservative" than non-muslims, they were less so than their elders.
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I know it seems draconian but Mike doesn't want to receive any more legal letters and threats as he has in the past.
We can't claim to be a little obscure part of the Internet when even the PM reads PB
If so, didn't it occur to Jeremy Corbyn to get his chaotic filing system in order? I don't have any particular reason to say this but my instincts tell me there is the beginning of a shift in the relationship between McDonnell and Corbyn. In my view, McDonnell is far more dangerous and now believes Corbyn isn't up to it.
http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2016/04/10/pennsylvania-reagan-democrats-consider-trump/vKjDVTwWECUqdHEKkQTlIL/story.html
The point about this super injunction is not whether there is any public interest in the story (very hard to see to be honest) or even that the story is that interesting (a matter of taste I suppose). The problem is that after a few years of a breather we seem to be back in a situation where the law is being brought into disrepute by the wealthy and made to look ridiculous. This is a bad thing. I really don't know what the Court of Appeal were playing at.
I thought the courts had got the message after the Ryan Giggs story and the far more serious Trafigura case (where there clearly was a substantial public interest) but apparently not. This needs legislation.
I thought I would share that Nunu was the family's pet name for one of my nieces when she was a baby. Not really used by her mates at Uni!
It is also perfectly possible that he did not file one as his only source of earning is possibly through PAYE. I know that the IR did not send the Tax Return to everybody. They knew who really needed it.
One thing I am pretty sure about is that Corbyn will have nothing to be embarrassed about.
Welcome to PB nevertheless.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3533161/This-life-death-struggle-stark-analysis-former-equalities-chief-reveals-extremist-ideas-allowed-flourish.html
"It will mean political parties no longer turning a blind eye to appalling misdemeanours in return for votes from community leaders – so-called silence-for-votes deals which created havoc in Rotherham and Rochdale and contributed to the grooming scandals in those towns."
Misdemeanours is not the word I would use, but hey ho.
https://twitter.com/TotalPolitics/status/719504489565302784
The British chose.. poorly.
PS Aren't you meant to keep your tax records for seven years? Has Corbyn not followed the rules?
I agree with your last sentence. A man who is not embarrassed by inviting the IRA to tea and calling Hamas "friends" is not likely to be embarrassed by his tax return.
(oh lord, as incompetent as Corbyn. Hangs head in shame.)
Don't be absurd.
The first part, even if they were right (they weren't) the tax due was around £1,200. They were acting like it was £1.2 million.
There is an article to be written about our confused approach to privacy. I may do one - though it has no betting angle that I can see - if only to help clarify my own views on the issue. At the moment, we have everything arse over tip on the topic, as it were.
When I did to my own tax contributions last year I think it worked out as something like me paying £2000, personally, to service the national debt.
Imagine how you'd baulk if that were your own credit card?
So approximately 5% of all you pay in tax (IT+ NI + VAT + duties) goes in debt interest.
Ouch.
The young were significantly more tolerant of homosexuality, so while certainly more "socially conservative" than non-muslims, they were less so than their elders.