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    RazedabodeRazedabode Posts: 2,978

    If things remain as they are NESV in May will be Con 32% (-1) Lab 31% (-8) LD 16% (+1) UKIP 12% (+7)

    Changes since 2012

    What does this mean exactly? I.e. What looks like a good result for labour. I'm assuming -8 is worse than what would be expected being last locals were at a peak for them.
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    RobD said:

    If things remain as they are NESV in May will be Con 32% (-1) Lab 31% (-8) LD 16% (+1) UKIP 12% (+7)

    Changes since 2012

    :o ... JCICIPM?
    Nope.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,087

    If things remain as they are NESV in May will be Con 32% (-1) Lab 31% (-8) LD 16% (+1) UKIP 12% (+7)

    Changes since 2012

    So there's a decent chance Labour will come top in NESV? Even if not a great result, due to what the results were last time, enough to quell rebellious stirrings I wonder.
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    kle4 said:

    If things remain as they are NESV in May will be Con 32% (-1) Lab 31% (-8) LD 16% (+1) UKIP 12% (+7)

    Changes since 2012

    So there's a decent chance Labour will come top in NESV? Even if not a great result, due to what the results were last time, enough to quell rebellious stirrings I wonder.
    Is entirely dependent on where/how the UKIP goes/is concentrated
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    I've written a thread for tomorrow about Mark Reckless.

    And the AV thread recedes ever further into the distance.
    My cup runneth over
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    If things remain as they are NESV in May will be Con 32% (-1) Lab 31% (-8) LD 16% (+1) UKIP 12% (+7)

    Changes since 2012

    What does this mean exactly? I.e. What looks like a good result for labour. I'm assuming -8 is worse than what would be expected being last locals were at a peak for them.
    Read Rod's piece from May 2014, it accurately foretold the defeat Labour would face in May 2015

    http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2014/05/27/guest-slot-rod-crosby-the-bell-tolls-for-labour-and-miliband/
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    Arsenal are the new spurs???
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    Rallings & Thrasher also suggests that Lab voters who deserted the party at the GE are starting to back Lib Dems rather than Corbyn.
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    I've written a thread for tomorrow about Mark Reckless.

    And the AV thread recedes ever further into the distance.
    My cup runneth over
    And I'm very disappointed with TSE over this.
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    Sunday Times

    Labour plans to spend only about £200,000 on the campaign for the Scottish parliament — down from £1m in the last election in 2011 — amid fears that it could finish third behind the Tories as well as the Scottish National party.
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    GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071
    john_zims said:

    @NickPalmer


    'As someone who's always been very much into animal welfare issues,

    Except for Halal slaughter when your compassion is conveniently silenced.

    Can't upset the client vote, can he?
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    RazedabodeRazedabode Posts: 2,978

    If things remain as they are NESV in May will be Con 32% (-1) Lab 31% (-8) LD 16% (+1) UKIP 12% (+7)

    Changes since 2012

    What does this mean exactly? I.e. What looks like a good result for labour. I'm assuming -8 is worse than what would be expected being last locals were at a peak for them.
    Read Rod's piece from May 2014, it accurately foretold the defeat Labour would face in May 2015

    http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2014/05/27/guest-slot-rod-crosby-the-bell-tolls-for-labour-and-miliband/
    Great stuff. Reading that article oddly poignant knowing what happened.
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    I've written a thread for tomorrow about Mark Reckless.

    And the AV thread recedes ever further into the distance.
    My cup runneth over
    Morning thread is about Mark Reckless.
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    Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    GeoffM said:

    john_zims said:

    @NickPalmer


    'As someone who's always been very much into animal welfare issues,

    Except for Halal slaughter when your compassion is conveniently silenced.

    Can't upset the client vote, can he?
    It's neck and neck ;)
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    I've written a thread for tomorrow about Mark Reckless.

    And the AV thread recedes ever further into the distance.
    My cup runneth over
    And I'm very disappointed with TSE over this.
    It will be published in January 2016
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,022

    I've written a thread for tomorrow about Mark Reckless.

    And the AV thread recedes ever further into the distance.
    My cup runneth over
    And I'm very disappointed with TSE over this.
    He's a big tease. We all know the AV magnum opus is not ready for prime time ;)
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    RobD said:

    If things remain as they are NESV in May will be Con 32% (-1) Lab 31% (-8) LD 16% (+1) UKIP 12% (+7)

    Changes since 2012

    :o ... JCICIPM?
    JICIPM, actually! :)
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    Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669

    If things remain as they are NESV in May will be Con 32% (-1) Lab 31% (-8) LD 16% (+1) UKIP 12% (+7)

    Changes since 2012

    What does this mean exactly? I.e. What looks like a good result for labour. I'm assuming -8 is worse than what would be expected being last locals were at a peak for them.
    Read Rod's piece from May 2014, it accurately foretold the defeat Labour would face in May 2015

    http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2014/05/27/guest-slot-rod-crosby-the-bell-tolls-for-labour-and-miliband/
    Great stuff. Reading that article oddly poignant knowing what happened.
    Beeb World News had a 'UK Reporters' today on the year in UK politics.They showed video of the traditional photo of the new cabinet in the garden of no. 10.

    One of the photographers shouts out "How many of you expected to be here?". Cue some nervous laughter and awkward looks.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,087

    I've written a thread for tomorrow about Mark Reckless.

    And the AV thread recedes ever further into the distance.
    My cup runneth over
    And I'm very disappointed with TSE over this.
    It will be published in January 2016
    I'm worried it's like the government's deficit targets. By 2015? No, 2017...or 2018. But definitely by 2020.
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    Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669

    I've written a thread for tomorrow about Mark Reckless.

    And the AV thread recedes ever further into the distance.
    My cup runneth over
    And I'm very disappointed with TSE over this.
    You need a bigger cup.
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    kle4 said:

    I've written a thread for tomorrow about Mark Reckless.

    And the AV thread recedes ever further into the distance.
    My cup runneth over
    And I'm very disappointed with TSE over this.
    It will be published in January 2016
    I'm worried it's like the government's deficit targets. By 2015? No, 2017...or 2018. But definitely by 2020.
    You're going to get two electoral voting system threads in January.

    I'm also doing one on the supplementary vote system in January too
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,087
    Surely someone who went to Eton is always the hunter, not the huntee?
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    Sunday Times says Corbyn planning a reshuffle, will sack/demote Benn, ditto Maria Eagle & Michael Dugher. Jon Trickett tipped as Chief Whip
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    Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    A brief weather note. It was 75 here yesterday. Same today.

    The Hyundai Sun Bowl started at noon mountain time at - yes - The Sun Bowl (it really is called that) in El Paso TX. At game time it was 68. Within 90 minutes the temperature had dropped to freezing and it was snowing heavily for a while. It's now raining and 38.

    Meanwhile 650 miles away in Dallas TX the Cotton Bowl game is also being played. started at 70 and sunny, now it's pouring with rain and cooler.

    This weather is just bizarre. They keep saying it's a big El Nino year.
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    Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    RobD said:

    I've written a thread for tomorrow about Mark Reckless.

    And the AV thread recedes ever further into the distance.
    My cup runneth over
    And I'm very disappointed with TSE over this.
    He's a big tease. We all know the AV magnum opus is not ready for prime time ;)
    So it'll be on Nighthawks then? ;)
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,087
    edited December 2015

    Sunday Times says Corbyn planning a reshuffle, will sack/demote Benn, ditto Maria Eagle & Michael Dugher. Jon Trickett tipped as Chief Whip

    Good stuff. I look forward to seeing what, if anything, he can manage with a shadow cabinet that actually backs him rather than one which barely tolerates him out of a sense of tribal obligation.
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    Lord Howard calls for ministers to have a free vote in the EURef
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    I've written a thread for tomorrow about Mark Reckless.

    And the AV thread recedes ever further into the distance.
    My cup runneth over
    Morning thread is about Mark Reckless.
    That's the cause of the cup situation... can't wait, almost as muc as the fantasy table update.. at last!!
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    kle4 said:

    Sunday Times says Corbyn planning a reshuffle, will sack/demote Benn, ditto Maria Eagle & Michael Dugher. Jon Trickett tipped as Chief Whip

    Good stuff. I look forward to seeing what, if anything, he can manage with a shadow cabinet that actually backs him rather than one which barely tolerates him out of a sense of tribal obligation.
    Me too. If Corbyn really believes in his vision of a proper left wing Labour party, then he should have the courage of his convictions and go for it.
    It should be fun.
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    I've written a thread for tomorrow about Mark Reckless.

    And the AV thread recedes ever further into the distance.
    My cup runneth over
    Morning thread is about Mark Reckless.
    That's the cause of the cup situation... can't wait, almost as muc as the fantasy table update.. at last!!
    Actually I might have to bump the Reckless thread to the afternoon now
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    Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    edited December 2015

    Lord Howard calls for ministers to have a free vote in the EURef

    Good deal! Labour charged 3 pounds in the election.
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    murali_smurali_s Posts: 3,045
    Tim_B said:

    A brief weather note. It was 75 here yesterday. Same today.

    The Hyundai Sun Bowl started at noon mountain time at - yes - The Sun Bowl (it really is called that) in El Paso TX. At game time it was 68. Within 90 minutes the temperature had dropped to freezing and it was snowing heavily for a while. It's now raining and 38.

    Meanwhile 650 miles away in Dallas TX the Cotton Bowl game is also being played. started at 70 and sunny, now it's pouring with rain and cooler.

    This weather is just bizarre. They keep saying it's a big El Nino year.

    This is a British blog - we use degrees Celsius here!
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    Disgraceful.

    Sunday Times reporting David Cameron is going to give Lynton Crosby a Knighthood.

    Lynton deserves a Royal Dukedom as a minimum
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    Clive Lewis and skinner in tut shadow cabinet then???
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    I've written a thread for tomorrow about Mark Reckless.

    And the AV thread recedes ever further into the distance.
    My cup runneth over
    Morning thread is about Mark Reckless.
    That's the cause of the cup situation... can't wait, almost as muc as the fantasy table update.. at last!!
    Actually I might have to bump the Reckless thread to the afternoon now
    I saw his rather sad tweet re a trip to the Footy today... he may need to defect to support a new team!!
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    BromptonautBromptonaut Posts: 1,113
    GeoffM said:

    Second! And I used to really enjoy foxhunting when I lived full time in the UK.

    I hope (in vain I fear) that this trend of banning things which are disapproved of by loud minorities is at least slowed soon.

    Except it's the vast majority.
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    I've written a thread for tomorrow about Mark Reckless.

    And the AV thread recedes ever further into the distance.
    My cup runneth over
    Morning thread is about Mark Reckless.
    That's the cause of the cup situation... can't wait, almost as muc as the fantasy table update.. at last!!
    Actually I might have to bump the Reckless thread to the afternoon now
    I saw his rather sad tweet re a trip to the Footy today... he may need to defect to support a new team!!
    I feel so sorry for Mark Reckless
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    I've written a thread for tomorrow about Mark Reckless.

    And the AV thread recedes ever further into the distance.
    My cup runneth over
    And I'm very disappointed with TSE over this.
    It will be published in January 2016
    It keeps getting delayed like the LHR decision.
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    Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    It's snowing heavily again at the Sun Bowl, with big flakes.

    It's on the Mexican border for pete's sake!
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    I've written a thread for tomorrow about Mark Reckless.

    And the AV thread recedes ever further into the distance.
    My cup runneth over
    Morning thread is about Mark Reckless.
    That's the cause of the cup situation... can't wait, almost as muc as the fantasy table update.. at last!!
    Actually I might have to bump the Reckless thread to the afternoon now
    I saw his rather sad tweet re a trip to the Footy today... he may need to defect to support a new team!!
    I feel so sorry for Mark Reckless
    As I do for gunners fans tonight..
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    Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    edited December 2015
    murali_s said:

    Tim_B said:

    A brief weather note. It was 75 here yesterday. Same today.

    The Hyundai Sun Bowl started at noon mountain time at - yes - The Sun Bowl (it really is called that) in El Paso TX. At game time it was 68. Within 90 minutes the temperature had dropped to freezing and it was snowing heavily for a while. It's now raining and 38.

    Meanwhile 650 miles away in Dallas TX the Cotton Bowl game is also being played. started at 70 and sunny, now it's pouring with rain and cooler.

    This weather is just bizarre. They keep saying it's a big El Nino year.

    This is a British blog - we use degrees Celsius here!
    They didn't when I grew up there ;)

    I think you missed the diversity and sensitivity training.... :lol:
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    Lord Howard calls for ministers to have a free vote in the EURef

    Are you thinking what we're thinking? :)
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    TwistedFireStopperTwistedFireStopper Posts: 2,538
    edited December 2015
    Tim_B said:

    It's snowing heavily again at the Sun Bowl, with big flakes.

    It's on the Mexican border for pete's sake!

    Are you sure it's snow, and not an accident in a "lab" in Juarez?
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    Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669

    Tim_B said:

    It's snowing heavily again at the Sun Bowl, with big flakes.

    It's on the Mexican border for pete's sake!

    Are you sure it's snow, and not an accident in a "lab" in Juarez?
    It's the wrong kind of snow, as British Rail would say.
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    Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669

    Disgraceful.

    Sunday Times reporting David Cameron is going to give Lynton Crosby a Knighthood.

    Lynton deserves a Royal Dukedom as a minimum

    I heard a rumour that the lift operator at the House of Lords has been elevated to the peerage.
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    kle4 said:

    I've written a thread for tomorrow about Mark Reckless.

    And the AV thread recedes ever further into the distance.
    My cup runneth over
    And I'm very disappointed with TSE over this.
    It will be published in January 2016
    I'm worried it's like the government's deficit targets. By 2015? No, 2017...or 2018. But definitely by 2020.
    You're going to get two electoral voting system threads in January.

    I'm also doing one on the supplementary vote system in January too
    These astro-droids PB Thread-writers are getting quite out of hand! Even I can't understand their logic at times!
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    murali_smurali_s Posts: 3,045
    edited December 2015
    DELETE
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    GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071
    murali_s said:

    Tim_B said:

    A brief weather note. It was 75 here yesterday. Same today.

    The Hyundai Sun Bowl started at noon mountain time at - yes - The Sun Bowl (it really is called that) in El Paso TX. At game time it was 68. Within 90 minutes the temperature had dropped to freezing and it was snowing heavily for a while. It's now raining and 38.

    Meanwhile 650 miles away in Dallas TX the Cotton Bowl game is also being played. started at 70 and sunny, now it's pouring with rain and cooler.

    This weather is just bizarre. They keep saying it's a big El Nino year.

    This is a British blog - we use degrees Celsius here!
    You might do. Don't drag "we" into anything.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,087
    Tim_B said:

    murali_s said:

    Tim_B said:

    A brief weather note. It was 75 here yesterday. Same today.

    The Hyundai Sun Bowl started at noon mountain time at - yes - The Sun Bowl (it really is called that) in El Paso TX. At game time it was 68. Within 90 minutes the temperature had dropped to freezing and it was snowing heavily for a while. It's now raining and 38.

    Meanwhile 650 miles away in Dallas TX the Cotton Bowl game is also being played. started at 70 and sunny, now it's pouring with rain and cooler.

    This weather is just bizarre. They keep saying it's a big El Nino year.

    This is a British blog - we use degrees Celsius here!
    They didn't when I grew up there ;)
    Times have changed, old man. Using Celsius is all part of our utterly logical unit of measurement adoption, along with partway metric on some things, but not others, and that's just the way we like it. I'll buy my coke by the litre, but by gods I will not accept milk in anything other than pints!
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,214

    Sunday Times says Corbyn planning a reshuffle, will sack/demote Benn, ditto Maria Eagle & Michael Dugher. Jon Trickett tipped as Chief Whip

    If Corbyn does sack/demote Benn he instantly becomes the new candidate of the Labour right and centre despite being from a family of the left, if and when Corbyn gets into difficulty after that brilliant Commons speech then there will then be an alternative candidate. Personally I doubt Corbyn will sack him, he will probably demote him as IDS demoted David Davis from Party Chairman to Shadow Secretary of State for the ODPM, a move which ultimately ended up being the first shot in his eventual toppling
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    JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 39,207
    I think I might go and seed a few archaeological sites. Just for the lolz, and because a couple of my friends are archaeologists:

    http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2015/12/facebook-user-solves-the-mystery-of-the-ancient-relic-found-in-an-israeli-cemetery/
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    notmenotme Posts: 3,293

    Charles said:

    Some odd comments on the thread:

    Richard N's belief that it was class warfare is wrong. ... I was involved throughout and I don't recall anyone ever mentioning class, toffs, or anything similar

    I believe Tony Banks made some pretty unpleasant class based comments at the time
    Yes and I believe the comment from Mr Palmer is of a fairly typical standard.


    'Tally Ho'? You don't remember that at your party conference ?
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    Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    kle4 said:

    Tim_B said:

    murali_s said:

    Tim_B said:

    A brief weather note. It was 75 here yesterday. Same today.

    The Hyundai Sun Bowl started at noon mountain time at - yes - The Sun Bowl (it really is called that) in El Paso TX. At game time it was 68. Within 90 minutes the temperature had dropped to freezing and it was snowing heavily for a while. It's now raining and 38.

    Meanwhile 650 miles away in Dallas TX the Cotton Bowl game is also being played. started at 70 and sunny, now it's pouring with rain and cooler.

    This weather is just bizarre. They keep saying it's a big El Nino year.

    This is a British blog - we use degrees Celsius here!
    They didn't when I grew up there ;)
    Times have changed, old man. Using Celsius is all part of our utterly logical unit of measurement adoption, along with partway metric on some things, but not others, and that's just the way we like it. I'll buy my coke by the litre, but by gods I will not accept milk in anything other than pints!
    What about Terry's chocolate oranges made in Poland?
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,214
    edited December 2015

    Disgraceful.

    Sunday Times reporting David Cameron is going to give Lynton Crosby a Knighthood.

    Lynton deserves a Royal Dukedom as a minimum

    Lynton Crosby, knighted for services rendered in the demolition of the LDs and the humiliation of the Labour Party and Ken Livingstone and for brilliantly whipping up fear of uncontrolled immigration on behalf of John Howard, he is good at his job but is rather a 'broad' definition of public service deserving of a knighthood to say the least!
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    GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071
    edited December 2015
    kle4 said:

    Tim_B said:

    murali_s said:

    Tim_B said:

    A brief weather note. It was 75 here yesterday. Same today.

    The Hyundai Sun Bowl started at noon mountain time at - yes - The Sun Bowl (it really is called that) in El Paso TX. At game time it was 68. Within 90 minutes the temperature had dropped to freezing and it was snowing heavily for a while. It's now raining and 38.

    Meanwhile 650 miles away in Dallas TX the Cotton Bowl game is also being played. started at 70 and sunny, now it's pouring with rain and cooler.

    This weather is just bizarre. They keep saying it's a big El Nino year.

    This is a British blog - we use degrees Celsius here!
    They didn't when I grew up there ;)
    Times have changed, old man. Using Celsius is all part of our utterly logical unit of measurement adoption, along with partway metric on some things, but not others, and that's just the way we like it. I'll buy my coke by the litre, but by gods I will not accept milk in anything other than pints!
    I buy coke by the Big Bottle, Small Bottle or the Can. Milk is also by relative box size. Petrol goes in by cash amount.

    Distances and measurements are still Imperial. I'm genuinely struggling to think of anything that I'd instinctively think of in metric that's genuinely meaningful.
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    murali_smurali_s Posts: 3,045
    edited December 2015
    GeoffM said:

    murali_s said:

    Tim_B said:

    A brief weather note. It was 75 here yesterday. Same today.

    The Hyundai Sun Bowl started at noon mountain time at - yes - The Sun Bowl (it really is called that) in El Paso TX. At game time it was 68. Within 90 minutes the temperature had dropped to freezing and it was snowing heavily for a while. It's now raining and 38.

    Meanwhile 650 miles away in Dallas TX the Cotton Bowl game is also being played. started at 70 and sunny, now it's pouring with rain and cooler.

    This weather is just bizarre. They keep saying it's a big El Nino year.

    This is a British blog - we use degrees Celsius here!
    You might do. Don't drag "we" into anything.
    I apologise! However, most if not all young people use degrees Celsius. Moreover many old people now have no issues with using the more logical degrees Celsius. Anyway this is an issue which over time will resolve itself.
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    GeoffM said:

    kle4 said:

    Tim_B said:

    murali_s said:

    Tim_B said:

    A brief weather note. It was 75 here yesterday. Same today.

    The Hyundai Sun Bowl started at noon mountain time at - yes - The Sun Bowl (it really is called that) in El Paso TX. At game time it was 68. Within 90 minutes the temperature had dropped to freezing and it was snowing heavily for a while. It's now raining and 38.

    Meanwhile 650 miles away in Dallas TX the Cotton Bowl game is also being played. started at 70 and sunny, now it's pouring with rain and cooler.

    This weather is just bizarre. They keep saying it's a big El Nino year.

    This is a British blog - we use degrees Celsius here!
    They didn't when I grew up there ;)
    Times have changed, old man. Using Celsius is all part of our utterly logical unit of measurement adoption, along with partway metric on some things, but not others, and that's just the way we like it. I'll buy my coke by the litre, but by gods I will not accept milk in anything other than pints!
    I buy coke by the Big Bottle, Small Bottle or the Can. Milk is also by relative box size. Petrol goes in by cash amount.

    Distances and measurements are still Imperial. I'm genuinely struggling to think of anything that I'd instinctively think of in metric that's genuinely meaningful.
    Metric paper sizes make far more sense than imperial.
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    GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071
    edited December 2015
    HYUFD said:

    Disgraceful.

    Sunday Times reporting David Cameron is going to give Lynton Crosby a Knighthood.

    Lynton deserves a Royal Dukedom as a minimum

    Lynton Crosby, knighted for services rendered in the demolition of the LDs and the humiliation of the Labour Party and Ken Livingstone and for brilliantly whipping up fear of uncontrolled immigration on behalf of John Howard, he is good at his job but is rather a 'broad' definition of public service deserving of a knighthood to say the least!
    It's almost the perfect definition of public service actually.

    In fact, I'd make it the dictionary definition if I ran the OED and just as a cross-reference.

    PUBLIC SERVICE: see Crosby, Lynton
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    GeoffM said:

    HYUFD said:

    Disgraceful.

    Sunday Times reporting David Cameron is going to give Lynton Crosby a Knighthood.

    Lynton deserves a Royal Dukedom as a minimum

    Lynton Crosby, knighted for services rendered in the demolition of the LDs and the humiliation of the Labour Party and Ken Livingstone and for brilliantly whipping up fear of uncontrolled immigration on behalf of John Howard, he is good at his job but is rather a 'broad' definition of public service deserving of a knighthood to say the least!
    It's almost the perfect definition of public service actually.

    In fact, I'd make it the dictionary definition if I ran the OED and just as a cross-reference.

    PUBLIC SERVICE: see Crosby, Lynton
    I hope it is a GCMG he gets.

    God Call Me God
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,214
    GeoffM said:

    HYUFD said:

    Disgraceful.

    Sunday Times reporting David Cameron is going to give Lynton Crosby a Knighthood.

    Lynton deserves a Royal Dukedom as a minimum

    Lynton Crosby, knighted for services rendered in the demolition of the LDs and the humiliation of the Labour Party and Ken Livingstone and for brilliantly whipping up fear of uncontrolled immigration on behalf of John Howard, he is good at his job but is rather a 'broad' definition of public service deserving of a knighthood to say the least!
    It's almost the perfect definition of public service actually.

    In fact, I'd make it the dictionary definition if I ran the OED and just as a cross-reference.

    PUBLIC SERVICE: see Crosby, Lynton
    Well I suppose Philip Gould was given a Peerage
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    Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    murali_s said:

    GeoffM said:

    murali_s said:

    Tim_B said:

    A brief weather note. It was 75 here yesterday. Same today.

    The Hyundai Sun Bowl started at noon mountain time at - yes - The Sun Bowl (it really is called that) in El Paso TX. At game time it was 68. Within 90 minutes the temperature had dropped to freezing and it was snowing heavily for a while. It's now raining and 38.

    Meanwhile 650 miles away in Dallas TX the Cotton Bowl game is also being played. started at 70 and sunny, now it's pouring with rain and cooler.

    This weather is just bizarre. They keep saying it's a big El Nino year.

    This is a British blog - we use degrees Celsius here!
    You might do. Don't drag "we" into anything.
    I apologise! However, most if not all young people use degrees Celsius. Moreover many old people now have no issues with using the more logical degrees Celsius. Anyway this is an issue which over time will resolve itself.
    They don't use celsius here. We still have ounces, pounds, pints and gallons - though the last 2 are not imperial size.

    I don't have a problem with celsius - just no use for it.

    So if it's 75 in Atlanta, I'll say it's 75, not 23 or whatever it is in Crazius. If I'm talking about the temp in England I'd give it in celsius. When I left in the late 70s the UK still used fahrenheit.
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    GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071

    GeoffM said:

    kle4 said:

    Tim_B said:

    murali_s said:

    Tim_B said:

    A brief weather note. It was 75 here yesterday. Same today.

    The Hyundai Sun Bowl started at noon mountain time at - yes - The Sun Bowl (it really is called that) in El Paso TX. At game time it was 68. Within 90 minutes the temperature had dropped to freezing and it was snowing heavily for a while. It's now raining and 38.

    Meanwhile 650 miles away in Dallas TX the Cotton Bowl game is also being played. started at 70 and sunny, now it's pouring with rain and cooler.

    This weather is just bizarre. They keep saying it's a big El Nino year.

    This is a British blog - we use degrees Celsius here!
    They didn't when I grew up there ;)
    Times have changed, old man. Using Celsius is all part of our utterly logical unit of measurement adoption, along with partway metric on some things, but not others, and that's just the way we like it. I'll buy my coke by the litre, but by gods I will not accept milk in anything other than pints!
    I buy coke by the Big Bottle, Small Bottle or the Can. Milk is also by relative box size. Petrol goes in by cash amount.

    Distances and measurements are still Imperial. I'm genuinely struggling to think of anything that I'd instinctively think of in metric that's genuinely meaningful.
    Metric paper sizes make far more sense than imperial.
    Why? You can measure what someone randomly christened A4 in both systems and neither come out neatly in round numbers.

    210 × 297 millimeters or 8.27 × 11.69 inches

    Why does one of those sets of odd numbers make more "sense" than the other?
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    GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071

    GeoffM said:

    HYUFD said:

    Disgraceful.

    Sunday Times reporting David Cameron is going to give Lynton Crosby a Knighthood.

    Lynton deserves a Royal Dukedom as a minimum

    Lynton Crosby, knighted for services rendered in the demolition of the LDs and the humiliation of the Labour Party and Ken Livingstone and for brilliantly whipping up fear of uncontrolled immigration on behalf of John Howard, he is good at his job but is rather a 'broad' definition of public service deserving of a knighthood to say the least!
    It's almost the perfect definition of public service actually.

    In fact, I'd make it the dictionary definition if I ran the OED and just as a cross-reference.

    PUBLIC SERVICE: see Crosby, Lynton
    I hope it is a GCMG he gets.

    God Call Me God
    Yes, Minister will be 30 years old next year.

    Now there's an idea for a surreal thread!
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,698
    edited December 2015
    GeoffM said:

    GeoffM said:

    HYUFD said:

    Disgraceful.

    Sunday Times reporting David Cameron is going to give Lynton Crosby a Knighthood.

    Lynton deserves a Royal Dukedom as a minimum

    Lynton Crosby, knighted for services rendered in the demolition of the LDs and the humiliation of the Labour Party and Ken Livingstone and for brilliantly whipping up fear of uncontrolled immigration on behalf of John Howard, he is good at his job but is rather a 'broad' definition of public service deserving of a knighthood to say the least!
    It's almost the perfect definition of public service actually.

    In fact, I'd make it the dictionary definition if I ran the OED and just as a cross-reference.

    PUBLIC SERVICE: see Crosby, Lynton
    I hope it is a GCMG he gets.

    God Call Me God
    Yes, Minister will be 30 years old next year.

    Now there's an idea for a surreal thread!
    Point of pedantry, Yes, Prime Minister will be 30 years old next year.

    And I will do a thread on that.

    I once did a thread using this clip from the show, and it annoyed the Nats too

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0ZZJXw4MTA
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    GeoffM said:

    GeoffM said:

    kle4 said:

    Tim_B said:

    murali_s said:

    Tim_B said:

    A brief weather note. It was 75 here yesterday. Same today.

    The Hyundai Sun Bowl started at noon mountain time at - yes - The Sun Bowl (it really is called that) in El Paso TX. At game time it was 68. Within 90 minutes the temperature had dropped to freezing and it was snowing heavily for a while. It's now raining and 38.

    Meanwhile 650 miles away in Dallas TX the Cotton Bowl game is also being played. started at 70 and sunny, now it's pouring with rain and cooler.

    This weather is just bizarre. They keep saying it's a big El Nino year.

    This is a British blog - we use degrees Celsius here!
    They didn't when I grew up there ;)
    Times have changed, old man. Using Celsius is all part of our utterly logical unit of measurement adoption, along with partway metric on some things, but not others, and that's just the way we like it. I'll buy my coke by the litre, but by gods I will not accept milk in anything other than pints!
    I buy coke by the Big Bottle, Small Bottle or the Can. Milk is also by relative box size. Petrol goes in by cash amount.

    Distances and measurements are still Imperial. I'm genuinely struggling to think of anything that I'd instinctively think of in metric that's genuinely meaningful.
    Metric paper sizes make far more sense than imperial.
    Why? You can measure what someone randomly christened A4 in both systems and neither come out neatly in round numbers.

    210 × 297 millimeters or 8.27 × 11.69 inches

    Why does one of those sets of odd numbers make more "sense" than the other?
    Because an A0 sheet is 1 square metre. A4 isn't remotely random, it's one sixteenth of an A0.
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    GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071

    GeoffM said:

    GeoffM said:

    HYUFD said:

    Disgraceful.

    Sunday Times reporting David Cameron is going to give Lynton Crosby a Knighthood.

    Lynton deserves a Royal Dukedom as a minimum

    Lynton Crosby, knighted for services rendered in the demolition of the LDs and the humiliation of the Labour Party and Ken Livingstone and for brilliantly whipping up fear of uncontrolled immigration on behalf of John Howard, he is good at his job but is rather a 'broad' definition of public service deserving of a knighthood to say the least!
    It's almost the perfect definition of public service actually.

    In fact, I'd make it the dictionary definition if I ran the OED and just as a cross-reference.

    PUBLIC SERVICE: see Crosby, Lynton
    I hope it is a GCMG he gets.

    God Call Me God
    Yes, Minister will be 30 years old next year.

    Now there's an idea for a surreal thread!
    Point of pedantry, Yes, Prime Minister will be 30 years old next year.

    And I will do a thread on that.

    I once did a thread using this clip from the show, and it annoyed the Nats too

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0ZZJXw4MTA
    Your pedantry is depressingly accurate, and for shame I will ritually disembowel myself in a culturally misappropriated fashion.
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    GeoffM said:

    GeoffM said:

    GeoffM said:

    HYUFD said:

    Disgraceful.

    Sunday Times reporting David Cameron is going to give Lynton Crosby a Knighthood.

    Lynton deserves a Royal Dukedom as a minimum

    Lynton Crosby, knighted for services rendered in the demolition of the LDs and the humiliation of the Labour Party and Ken Livingstone and for brilliantly whipping up fear of uncontrolled immigration on behalf of John Howard, he is good at his job but is rather a 'broad' definition of public service deserving of a knighthood to say the least!
    It's almost the perfect definition of public service actually.

    In fact, I'd make it the dictionary definition if I ran the OED and just as a cross-reference.

    PUBLIC SERVICE: see Crosby, Lynton
    I hope it is a GCMG he gets.

    God Call Me God
    Yes, Minister will be 30 years old next year.

    Now there's an idea for a surreal thread!
    Point of pedantry, Yes, Prime Minister will be 30 years old next year.

    And I will do a thread on that.

    I once did a thread using this clip from the show, and it annoyed the Nats too

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0ZZJXw4MTA
    Your pedantry is depressingly accurate, and for shame I will ritually disembowel myself in a culturally misappropriated fashion.
    As penance, you should read up about the Alternative Vote system
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    GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071

    GeoffM said:

    GeoffM said:

    kle4 said:

    Tim_B said:

    murali_s said:

    Tim_B said:

    A brief weather note. It was 75 here yesterday. Same today.

    The Hyundai Sun Bowl started at noon mountain time at - yes - The Sun Bowl (it really is called that) in El Paso TX. At game time it was 68. Within 90 minutes the temperature had dropped to freezing and it was snowing heavily for a while. It's now raining and 38.

    Meanwhile 650 miles away in Dallas TX the Cotton Bowl game is also being played. started at 70 and sunny, now it's pouring with rain and cooler.

    This weather is just bizarre. They keep saying it's a big El Nino year.

    This is a British blog - we use degrees Celsius here!
    They didn't when I grew up there ;)
    Times have changed, old man. Using Celsius is all part of our utterly logical unit of measurement adoption, along with partway metric on some things, but not others, and that's just the way we like it. I'll buy my coke by the litre, but by gods I will not accept milk in anything other than pints!
    I buy coke by the Big Bottle, Small Bottle or the Can. Milk is also by relative box size. Petrol goes in by cash amount.

    Distances and measurements are still Imperial. I'm genuinely struggling to think of anything that I'd instinctively think of in metric that's genuinely meaningful.
    Metric paper sizes make far more sense than imperial.
    Why? You can measure what someone randomly christened A4 in both systems and neither come out neatly in round numbers.

    210 × 297 millimeters or 8.27 × 11.69 inches

    Why does one of those sets of odd numbers make more "sense" than the other?
    Because an A0 sheet is 1 square metre. A4 isn't remotely random, it's one sixteenth of an A0.
    Is it really. That's a pointless bit of trivia I'll have no trouble forgetting.
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    Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn is planning to reshuffle his Shadow Cabinet in the first week of January – with aides pencilling in an announcement for as early as 4 January. Mr Corbyn wants to assert his authority by dismissing “disloyal” shadow ministers who have openly defied his leadership and questioned whether he will remain in the post until 2020.

    He is understood to have made the “seismic” decision to move shadow Foreign Secretary Hilary Benn, but will have to withstand furious resistance if he is to force it through. Defence spokeswoman Maria Eagle, her sister Angela – the shadow First Secretary of State – and the chief whip, Rosie Winterton, are also on the brink of being demoted.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-to-dismiss-disloyal-shadow-ministers-in-new-year-reshuffle-a6786956.html
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    Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669

    GeoffM said:

    GeoffM said:

    HYUFD said:

    Disgraceful.

    Sunday Times reporting David Cameron is going to give Lynton Crosby a Knighthood.

    Lynton deserves a Royal Dukedom as a minimum

    Lynton Crosby, knighted for services rendered in the demolition of the LDs and the humiliation of the Labour Party and Ken Livingstone and for brilliantly whipping up fear of uncontrolled immigration on behalf of John Howard, he is good at his job but is rather a 'broad' definition of public service deserving of a knighthood to say the least!
    It's almost the perfect definition of public service actually.

    In fact, I'd make it the dictionary definition if I ran the OED and just as a cross-reference.

    PUBLIC SERVICE: see Crosby, Lynton
    I hope it is a GCMG he gets.

    God Call Me God
    Yes, Minister will be 30 years old next year.

    Now there's an idea for a surreal thread!
    Point of pedantry, Yes, Prime Minister will be 30 years old next year.

    And I will do a thread on that.

    I once did a thread using this clip from the show, and it annoyed the Nats too

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0ZZJXw4MTA
    As it's Christmas......

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vShJa6GobFQ
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    GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071

    GeoffM said:

    GeoffM said:

    GeoffM said:

    HYUFD said:

    Disgraceful.

    Sunday Times reporting David Cameron is going to give Lynton Crosby a Knighthood.

    Lynton deserves a Royal Dukedom as a minimum

    Lynton Crosby, knighted for services rendered in the demolition of the LDs and the humiliation of the Labour Party and Ken Livingstone and for brilliantly whipping up fear of uncontrolled immigration on behalf of John Howard, he is good at his job but is rather a 'broad' definition of public service deserving of a knighthood to say the least!
    It's almost the perfect definition of public service actually.

    In fact, I'd make it the dictionary definition if I ran the OED and just as a cross-reference.

    PUBLIC SERVICE: see Crosby, Lynton
    I hope it is a GCMG he gets.

    God Call Me God
    Yes, Minister will be 30 years old next year.

    Now there's an idea for a surreal thread!
    Point of pedantry, Yes, Prime Minister will be 30 years old next year.

    And I will do a thread on that.

    I once did a thread using this clip from the show, and it annoyed the Nats too

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0ZZJXw4MTA
    Your pedantry is depressingly accurate, and for shame I will ritually disembowel myself in a culturally misappropriated fashion.
    As penance, you should read up about the Alternative Vote system
    Do I get a choice between ritual disembowelment and reading up about AV?
    If so, it's a pretty straightforward decision.
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    GeoffM said:

    GeoffM said:

    GeoffM said:

    kle4 said:

    Tim_B said:

    murali_s said:

    Tim_B said:

    A brief weather note. It was 75 here yesterday. Same today.

    The Hyundai Sun Bowl started at noon mountain time at - yes - The Sun Bowl (it really is called that) in El Paso TX. At game time it was 68. Within 90 minutes the temperature had dropped to freezing and it was snowing heavily for a while. It's now raining and 38.

    Meanwhile 650 miles away in Dallas TX the Cotton Bowl game is also being played. started at 70 and sunny, now it's pouring with rain and cooler.

    This weather is just bizarre. They keep saying it's a big El Nino year.

    This is a British blog - we use degrees Celsius here!
    They didn't when I grew up there ;)
    Times have changed, old man. Using Celsius is all part of our utterly logical unit of measurement adoption, along with partway metric on some things, but not others, and that's just the way we like it. I'll buy my coke by the litre, but by gods I will not accept milk in anything other than pints!
    I buy coke by the Big Bottle, Small Bottle or the Can. Milk is also by relative box size. Petrol goes in by cash amount.

    Distances and measurements are still Imperial. I'm genuinely struggling to think of anything that I'd instinctively think of in metric that's genuinely meaningful.
    Metric paper sizes make far more sense than imperial.
    Why? You can measure what someone randomly christened A4 in both systems and neither come out neatly in round numbers.

    210 × 297 millimeters or 8.27 × 11.69 inches

    Why does one of those sets of odd numbers make more "sense" than the other?
    Because an A0 sheet is 1 square metre. A4 isn't remotely random, it's one sixteenth of an A0.
    Is it really. That's a pointless bit of trivia I'll have no trouble forgetting.
    Meanwhile imperial paper sizes - 8.5 x 11, 11 x 17 and the rest, don't even have consistent proportions.
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    Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    edited December 2015
    GeoffM said:

    GeoffM said:

    GeoffM said:

    GeoffM said:

    HYUFD said:

    Disgraceful.

    Sunday Times reporting David Cameron is going to give Lynton Crosby a Knighthood.

    Lynton deserves a Royal Dukedom as a minimum

    Lynton Crosby, knighted for services rendered in the demolition of the LDs and the humiliation of the Labour Party and Ken Livingstone and for brilliantly whipping up fear of uncontrolled immigration on behalf of John Howard, he is good at his job but is rather a 'broad' definition of public service deserving of a knighthood to say the least!
    It's almost the perfect definition of public service actually.

    In fact, I'd make it the dictionary definition if I ran the OED and just as a cross-reference.

    PUBLIC SERVICE: see Crosby, Lynton
    I hope it is a GCMG he gets.

    God Call Me God
    Yes, Minister will be 30 years old next year.

    Now there's an idea for a surreal thread!
    Point of pedantry, Yes, Prime Minister will be 30 years old next year.

    And I will do a thread on that.

    I once did a thread using this clip from the show, and it annoyed the Nats too

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0ZZJXw4MTA
    Your pedantry is depressingly accurate, and for shame I will ritually disembowel myself in a culturally misappropriated fashion.
    As penance, you should read up about the Alternative Vote system
    Do I get a choice between ritual disembowelment and reading up about AV?
    If so, it's a pretty straightforward decision.
    It's pretty simple - you could vote Conservative, alternatively you could vote Labour.

    Then there's the STV - that's where you give someone your postal vote to take away and they fill out for you.
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    murali_smurali_s Posts: 3,045
    edited December 2015
    Tim_B said:

    murali_s said:

    GeoffM said:

    murali_s said:

    Tim_B said:

    A brief weather note. It was 75 here yesterday. Same today.

    The Hyundai Sun Bowl started at noon mountain time at - yes - The Sun Bowl (it really is called that) in El Paso TX. At game time it was 68. Within 90 minutes the temperature had dropped to freezing and it was snowing heavily for a while. It's now raining and 38.

    Meanwhile 650 miles away in Dallas TX the Cotton Bowl game is also being played. started at 70 and sunny, now it's pouring with rain and cooler.

    This weather is just bizarre. They keep saying it's a big El Nino year.

    This is a British blog - we use degrees Celsius here!
    You might do. Don't drag "we" into anything.
    I apologise! However, most if not all young people use degrees Celsius. Moreover many old people now have no issues with using the more logical degrees Celsius. Anyway this is an issue which over time will resolve itself.
    They don't use celsius here. We still have ounces, pounds, pints and gallons - though the last 2 are not imperial size.

    I don't have a problem with celsius - just no use for it.

    So if it's 75 in Atlanta, I'll say it's 75, not 23 or whatever it is in Crazius. If I'm talking about the temp in England I'd give it in celsius. When I left in the late 70s the UK still used fahrenheit.
    Again and sorry to be pedantic this is a British blog - degrees Celsius is the unit of temperature used here. Fahrenheit means nothing to me and the majority here. I don't give a monkeys what temperature scale they use in the US - if they want to be archaic, it's up to them.

    It's akin to me moving to France and posting on this site in French because it's the language they use there!!
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,087
    Tim_B said:

    kle4 said:

    Tim_B said:

    murali_s said:

    Tim_B said:

    A brief weather note. It was 75 here yesterday. Same today.

    The Hyundai Sun Bowl started at noon mountain time at - yes - The Sun Bowl (it really is called that) in El Paso TX. At game time it was 68. Within 90 minutes the temperature had dropped to freezing and it was snowing heavily for a while. It's now raining and 38.

    Meanwhile 650 miles away in Dallas TX the Cotton Bowl game is also being played. started at 70 and sunny, now it's pouring with rain and cooler.

    This weather is just bizarre. They keep saying it's a big El Nino year.

    This is a British blog - we use degrees Celsius here!
    They didn't when I grew up there ;)
    Times have changed, old man. Using Celsius is all part of our utterly logical unit of measurement adoption, along with partway metric on some things, but not others, and that's just the way we like it. I'll buy my coke by the litre, but by gods I will not accept milk in anything other than pints!
    What about Terry's chocolate oranges made in Poland?
    What!? Scandalous, I am ashamed I did not know this.

    A dark thought to sleep on
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    GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071
    Tim_B said:

    GeoffM said:

    GeoffM said:

    GeoffM said:

    GeoffM said:

    HYUFD said:

    Disgraceful.

    Sunday Times reporting David Cameron is going to give Lynton Crosby a Knighthood.

    Lynton deserves a Royal Dukedom as a minimum

    Lynton Crosby, knighted for services rendered in the demolition of the LDs and the humiliation of the Labour Party and Ken Livingstone and for brilliantly whipping up fear of uncontrolled immigration on behalf of John Howard, he is good at his job but is rather a 'broad' definition of public service deserving of a knighthood to say the least!
    It's almost the perfect definition of public service actually.

    In fact, I'd make it the dictionary definition if I ran the OED and just as a cross-reference.

    PUBLIC SERVICE: see Crosby, Lynton
    I hope it is a GCMG he gets.

    God Call Me God
    Yes, Minister will be 30 years old next year.

    Now there's an idea for a surreal thread!
    Point of pedantry, Yes, Prime Minister will be 30 years old next year.

    And I will do a thread on that.

    I once did a thread using this clip from the show, and it annoyed the Nats too

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0ZZJXw4MTA
    Your pedantry is depressingly accurate, and for shame I will ritually disembowel myself in a culturally misappropriated fashion.
    As penance, you should read up about the Alternative Vote system
    Do I get a choice between ritual disembowelment and reading up about AV?
    If so, it's a pretty straightforward decision.
    It's pretty simple - you could vote Conservative, alternatively you could vote Labour.
    Great example! And we'll save that one for TSE's AV thread too.
    I predict that it'll go down very well.
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    I suspect in 6 months we’ll see another reshuffle as the new lot prove just as disloyal....!

    Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn is planning to reshuffle his Shadow Cabinet in the first week of January – with aides pencilling in an announcement for as early as 4 January. Mr Corbyn wants to assert his authority by dismissing “disloyal” shadow ministers who have openly defied his leadership and questioned whether he will remain in the post until 2020.

    He is understood to have made the “seismic” decision to move shadow Foreign Secretary Hilary Benn, but will have to withstand furious resistance if he is to force it through. Defence spokeswoman Maria Eagle, her sister Angela – the shadow First Secretary of State – and the chief whip, Rosie Winterton, are also on the brink of being demoted.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-to-dismiss-disloyal-shadow-ministers-in-new-year-reshuffle-a6786956.html

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    Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    murali_s said:

    Tim_B said:

    murali_s said:

    GeoffM said:

    murali_s said:

    Tim_B said:

    A brief weather note. It was 75 here yesterday. Same today.

    The Hyundai Sun Bowl started at noon mountain time at - yes - The Sun Bowl (it really is called that) in El Paso TX. At game time it was 68. Within 90 minutes the temperature had dropped to freezing and it was snowing heavily for a while. It's now raining and 38.

    Meanwhile 650 miles away in Dallas TX the Cotton Bowl game is also being played. started at 70 and sunny, now it's pouring with rain and cooler.

    This weather is just bizarre. They keep saying it's a big El Nino year.

    This is a British blog - we use degrees Celsius here!
    You might do. Don't drag "we" into anything.
    I apologise! However, most if not all young people use degrees Celsius. Moreover many old people now have no issues with using the more logical degrees Celsius. Anyway this is an issue which over time will resolve itself.
    They don't use celsius here. We still have ounces, pounds, pints and gallons - though the last 2 are not imperial size.

    I don't have a problem with celsius - just no use for it.

    So if it's 75 in Atlanta, I'll say it's 75, not 23 or whatever it is in Crazius. If I'm talking about the temp in England I'd give it in celsius. When I left in the late 70s the UK still used fahrenheit.
    Again and sorry to be pedantic this is a British blog - degrees Celsius is the unit of temperature used here. Fahrenheit means nothing to me and the majority here. I don't give a monkeys what temperature scale they use in the US - if they want to be archaic, it's up to them.

    It's akin to me moving to France and posting on this site in French because it's the language they use there!!
    If you want to be pedantic, pick something important, not the fact it's snowing at a bowl game on the Mexican border. I will not engage with you further on this ridiculous topic
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    Sunday Times says Corbyn planning a reshuffle, will sack/demote Benn, ditto Maria Eagle & Michael Dugher. Jon Trickett tipped as Chief Whip

    [Princess Liz Kendall is escorted by Lord Livingstone into an audience with Grand Moff Corbyn]
    Princess Liz: Governor Corbyn, I should have expected to find you holding Livingstone's leash. I recognized your foul stench when I was brought onboard.
    Grand Moff Corbyn: Charming to the last. You don't know how hard I found it, signing the order to terminate your political career.
    Princess Liz: [sarcastically] I'm surprised you had the courage to take the responsibility yourself.
    Grand Moff Corbyn: Princess Liz, before your, er, deselection, I would like to invite you to a ceremony that will make this progressive party operational. No Labour Stronghold will dare oppose the Corbynistas now.
    Princess Liz: The more you tighten your grip, Corbyn, the more safe seats will slip through your fingers.
    Grand Moff Corbyn: Not after we demonstrate the power of this policy. In a way, you have determined the choice of the constituency that is to be targeted first. Since you are reluctant to provide us with the location of the Rebel base, I have chosen to test our activists' destructive power on your home planet of Leicester.
    Princess Liz: [shocked] No! Leicester is peaceful, we have no weapons. You can't possibly—
    Grand Moff Corbyn: You would prefer another target, a military target? Then name the system! [stepping closer to Liz and pinning her against Darth Livingstone] I grow tired of asking this, so it will be the last time. Where is the Rebel base?
    Princess Liz: [looks at view-screen showing Leicester for a moment, then, resigned] Derby. They're all on Derby.
    Grand Moff Corbyn: There you see, Lord Livingstone? She can be reasonable. Proceed with the operation. You may fire when ready.
    Princess Liz: [indignant] What?!
    Grand Moff Corbyn: You're far too trusting. Derby is too remote to make an effective demonstration, but don't worry. We will deal with your rebel friends soon enough!
    [Liz watches helplessly as Leftist activists descend on Leicester]
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    murali_smurali_s Posts: 3,045
    Tim_B said:

    murali_s said:

    Tim_B said:

    murali_s said:

    GeoffM said:

    murali_s said:

    Tim_B said:

    A brief weather note. It was 75 here yesterday. Same today.

    The Hyundai Sun Bowl started at noon mountain time at - yes - The Sun Bowl (it really is called that) in El Paso TX. At game time it was 68. Within 90 minutes the temperature had dropped to freezing and it was snowing heavily for a while. It's now raining and 38.

    Meanwhile 650 miles away in Dallas TX the Cotton Bowl game is also being played. started at 70 and sunny, now it's pouring with rain and cooler.

    This weather is just bizarre. They keep saying it's a big El Nino year.

    This is a British blog - we use degrees Celsius here!
    You might do. Don't drag "we" into anything.
    I apologise! However, most if not all young people use degrees Celsius. Moreover many old people now have no issues with using the more logical degrees Celsius. Anyway this is an issue which over time will resolve itself.
    They don't use celsius here. We still have ounces, pounds, pints and gallons - though the last 2 are not imperial size.

    I don't have a problem with celsius - just no use for it.

    So if it's 75 in Atlanta, I'll say it's 75, not 23 or whatever it is in Crazius. If I'm talking about the temp in England I'd give it in celsius. When I left in the late 70s the UK still used fahrenheit.
    Again and sorry to be pedantic this is a British blog - degrees Celsius is the unit of temperature used here. Fahrenheit means nothing to me and the majority here. I don't give a monkeys what temperature scale they use in the US - if they want to be archaic, it's up to them.

    It's akin to me moving to France and posting on this site in French because it's the language they use there!!
    If you want to be pedantic, pick something important, not the fact it's snowing at a bowl game on the Mexican border. I will not engage with you further on this ridiculous topic
    You started this mate - why would I care about a stupid bowl game!

    Game, set and match!
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    Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    kle4 said:

    Tim_B said:

    kle4 said:

    Tim_B said:

    murali_s said:

    Tim_B said:

    A brief weather note. It was 75 here yesterday. Same today.

    The Hyundai Sun Bowl started at noon mountain time at - yes - The Sun Bowl (it really is called that) in El Paso TX. At game time it was 68. Within 90 minutes the temperature had dropped to freezing and it was snowing heavily for a while. It's now raining and 38.

    Meanwhile 650 miles away in Dallas TX the Cotton Bowl game is also being played. started at 70 and sunny, now it's pouring with rain and cooler.

    This weather is just bizarre. They keep saying it's a big El Nino year.

    This is a British blog - we use degrees Celsius here!
    They didn't when I grew up there ;)
    Times have changed, old man. Using Celsius is all part of our utterly logical unit of measurement adoption, along with partway metric on some things, but not others, and that's just the way we like it. I'll buy my coke by the litre, but by gods I will not accept milk in anything other than pints!
    What about Terry's chocolate oranges made in Poland?
    What!? Scandalous, I am ashamed I did not know this.

    A dark thought to sleep on
    I received one yesterday.
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    GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071
    murali_s said:

    Tim_B said:

    murali_s said:

    GeoffM said:

    murali_s said:

    Tim_B said:

    A brief weather note. It was 75 here yesterday. Same today.

    The Hyundai Sun Bowl started at noon mountain time at - yes - The Sun Bowl (it really is called that) in El Paso TX. At game time it was 68. Within 90 minutes the temperature had dropped to freezing and it was snowing heavily for a while. It's now raining and 38.

    Meanwhile 650 miles away in Dallas TX the Cotton Bowl game is also being played. started at 70 and sunny, now it's pouring with rain and cooler.

    This weather is just bizarre. They keep saying it's a big El Nino year.

    This is a British blog - we use degrees Celsius here!
    You might do. Don't drag "we" into anything.
    I apologise! However, most if not all young people use degrees Celsius. Moreover many old people now have no issues with using the more logical degrees Celsius. Anyway this is an issue which over time will resolve itself.
    They don't use celsius here. We still have ounces, pounds, pints and gallons - though the last 2 are not imperial size.

    I don't have a problem with celsius - just no use for it.

    So if it's 75 in Atlanta, I'll say it's 75, not 23 or whatever it is in Crazius. If I'm talking about the temp in England I'd give it in celsius. When I left in the late 70s the UK still used fahrenheit.
    Again and sorry to be pedantic this is a British blog - degrees Celsius is the unit of temperature used here. Fahrenheit means nothing to me and the majority here. I don't give a monkeys what temperature scale they use in the US - if they want to be archaic, it's up to them.

    It's akin to me moving to France and posting on this site in French because it's the language they use there!!
    Some trivial Google-Fu offers an Express front page about 100F in July last year.

    I'm sure there are more recent examples too but because it's for you I can't be arsed.

    http://www.thepaperboy.com/uk/2014/07/16/front-pages-headlines.cfm

    Why would they publish something that nobody understood?
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,214
    'Diane Abbott is favourite to land the job of shadow Foreign Secretary, with Mr Corbyn keen to ensure at least one of the four top jobs goes to a woman. The shadow Chancellor is secure in his place, so either Andy Burnham, the shadow Home Secretary, or Mr Benn will have to go. Mr Burnham, however, is understood to be safe – as long as he is happy to remain.

    “He’s done a good job; we don’t have any complaints,” one senior source said.

    Corbyn aides have drawn up a list of 30 loyalists set for promotions. Their names will be circulated to the media to be approached as trusted allies of Mr Corbyn. The list is set to include the shadow employment minister Emily Thornberry and up-and-coming Corbynites Richard Burgon and Cat Smith.'
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-to-dismiss-disloyal-shadow-ministers-in-new-year-reshuffle-a6786956.html
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    murali_smurali_s Posts: 3,045
    edited December 2015
    GeoffM said:

    murali_s said:

    Tim_B said:

    murali_s said:

    GeoffM said:

    murali_s said:

    Tim_B said:

    A brief weather note. It was 75 here yesterday. Same today.

    The Hyundai Sun Bowl started at noon mountain time at - yes - The Sun Bowl (it really is called that) in El Paso TX. At game time it was 68. Within 90 minutes the temperature had dropped to freezing and it was snowing heavily for a while. It's now raining and 38.

    Meanwhile 650 miles away in Dallas TX the Cotton Bowl game is also being played. started at 70 and sunny, now it's pouring with rain and cooler.

    This weather is just bizarre. They keep saying it's a big El Nino year.

    This is a British blog - we use degrees Celsius here!
    You might do. Don't drag "we" into anything.
    I apologise! However, most if not all young people use degrees Celsius. Moreover many old people now have no issues with using the more logical degrees Celsius. Anyway this is an issue which over time will resolve itself.
    They don't use celsius here. We still have ounces, pounds, pints and gallons - though the last 2 are not imperial size.

    I don't have a problem with celsius - just no use for it.

    So if it's 75 in Atlanta, I'll say it's 75, not 23 or whatever it is in Crazius. If I'm talking about the temp in England I'd give it in celsius. When I left in the late 70s the UK still used fahrenheit.
    Again and sorry to be pedantic this is a British blog - degrees Celsius is the unit of temperature used here. Fahrenheit means nothing to me and the majority here. I don't give a monkeys what temperature scale they use in the US - if they want to be archaic, it's up to them.

    It's akin to me moving to France and posting on this site in French because it's the language they use there!!
    Some trivial Google-Fu offers an Express front page about 100F in July last year.

    I'm sure there are more recent examples too but because it's for you I can't be arsed.

    http://www.thepaperboy.com/uk/2014/07/16/front-pages-headlines.cfm

    Why would they publish something that nobody understood?
    Two words - Daily Express!

    Jeez - are people on the juice or are they really that thick?

    PS - GeoffM - you were meant to have a bet with me that 2014 was going to be the warmest year ever recorded! Seemed like you chickened out - shame!

    Anyway, any bets for 2016? I say with anthropogenic forcing on the climate in full gear, 2016 will be the warmest year ever recorded - take me up on this bet??
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    Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    edited December 2015

    GeoffM said:

    GeoffM said:

    HYUFD said:

    Disgraceful.

    Sunday Times reporting David Cameron is going to give Lynton Crosby a Knighthood.

    Lynton deserves a Royal Dukedom as a minimum

    Lynton Crosby, knighted for services rendered in the demolition of the LDs and the humiliation of the Labour Party and Ken Livingstone and for brilliantly whipping up fear of uncontrolled immigration on behalf of John Howard, he is good at his job but is rather a 'broad' definition of public service deserving of a knighthood to say the least!
    It's almost the perfect definition of public service actually.

    In fact, I'd make it the dictionary definition if I ran the OED and just as a cross-reference.

    PUBLIC SERVICE: see Crosby, Lynton
    I hope it is a GCMG he gets.

    God Call Me God
    Yes, Minister will be 30 years old next year.

    Now there's an idea for a surreal thread!
    Point of pedantry, Yes, Prime Minister will be 30 years old next year.

    And I will do a thread on that.

    I once did a thread using this clip from the show, and it annoyed the Nats too
    Yes, Minister will be 36 years old in February. I know this because the first episode ("Open Government") aired 150 minutes after I was born.

    Merry Christmas everybody, by the way. My children have been preoccupying me over the last two days; I will endeavour to tackle stjohn's crossword at a quieter point over the next week.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,087
    Abbott needs to be kept away from anything senior. Corbyn has a manner which, at first glance, invites people to hear him out and he naturally sounds reasonable even when he isn't. Abbott is the opposite, as even if she has a point her manner in the media at least undermines it, and fairly or not she can come across as pretty dim.
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    Chortle. Blairites = Serial losers

    An overhaul of Labour internal party management is also expected in the new year – with the respected general secretary, Iain McNichol, under pressure. Senior party sources said the party’s headquarters in Westminster was filled with Blairite “serial losers” who were not committed to making Mr Corbyn’s leadership a success.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,214
    edited December 2015
    kle4 said:

    Abbott needs to be kept away from anything senior. Corbyn has a manner which, at first glance, invites people to hear him out and he naturally sounds reasonable even when he isn't. Abbott is the opposite, as even if she has a point her manner in the media at least undermines it, and fairly or not she can come across as pretty dim.

    Well looks like the Labour frontbench will be led by Corbyn, McDonnell, Abbott and Burnham if that report is correct, certainly Cameron and Osborne will be shaking in their boots!
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    Chortle. Blairites = Serial losers

    An overhaul of Labour internal party management is also expected in the new year – with the respected general secretary, Iain McNichol, under pressure. Senior party sources said the party’s headquarters in Westminster was filled with Blairite “serial losers” who were not committed to making Mr Corbyn’s leadership a success.

    They've been losing seats ever since 1997.
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    Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    edited December 2015
    GeoffM said:

    murali_s said:

    Tim_B said:

    murali_s said:

    GeoffM said:

    murali_s said:

    Tim_B said:

    A brief weather note. It was 75 here yesterday. Same today.

    The Hyundai Sun Bowl started at noon mountain time at - yes - The Sun Bowl (it really is called that) in El Paso TX. At game time it was 68. Within 90 minutes the temperature had dropped to freezing and it was snowing heavily for a while. It's now raining and 38.

    Meanwhile 650 miles away in Dallas TX the Cotton Bowl game is also being played. started at 70 and sunny, now it's pouring with rain and cooler.

    This weather is just bizarre. They keep saying it's a big El Nino year.

    This is a British blog - we use degrees Celsius here!
    You might do. Don't drag "we" into anything.
    I apologise! However, most if not all young people use degrees Celsius. Moreover many old people now have no issues with using the more logical degrees Celsius. Anyway this is an issue which over time will resolve itself.
    They don't use celsius here. We still have ounces, pounds, pints and gallons - though the last 2 are not imperial size.

    I don't have a problem with celsius - just no use for it.

    So if it's 75 in Atlanta, I'll say it's 75, not 23 or whatever it is in Crazius. If I'm talking about the temp in England I'd give it in celsius. When I left in the late 70s the UK still used fahrenheit.
    Again and sorry to be pedantic this is a British blog - degrees Celsius is the unit of temperature used here. Fahrenheit means nothing to me and the majority here. I don't give a monkeys what temperature scale they use in the US - if they want to be archaic, it's up to them.

    It's akin to me moving to France and posting on this site in French because it's the language they use there!!
    Some trivial Google-Fu offers an Express front page about 100F in July last year.

    I'm sure there are more recent examples too but because it's for you I can't be arsed.

    http://www.thepaperboy.com/uk/2014/07/16/front-pages-headlines.cfm

    Why would they publish something that nobody understood?
    I've been posting on here for years quoting fahrenheit temperatures, and I think this person is the first to complain about it. Then to claim I started the argument.

    I wonder where the server is located?
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    Chortle. Blairites = Serial losers

    An overhaul of Labour internal party management is also expected in the new year – with the respected general secretary, Iain McNichol, under pressure. Senior party sources said the party’s headquarters in Westminster was filled with Blairite “serial losers” who were not committed to making Mr Corbyn’s leadership a success.

    They've been losing seats ever since 1997.
    What a time to be a Tory.

    Hell, I might decide to become an MP myself.

    I reckon I could win Bootle in 2020 for The Tories at this rate.
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    TomTom Posts: 273
    kle4 said:

    Abbott needs to be kept away from anything senior. Corbyn has a manner which, at first glance, invites people to hear him out and he naturally sounds reasonable even when he isn't. Abbott is the opposite, as even if she has a point her manner in the media at least undermines it, and fairly or not she can come across as pretty dim.

    Corbyn's main problem is there is no-one on the left of the party who is even halfway competent. I wonder what npxmp makes of this proposed act of comradeship and open debate. It is actually mildly encouraging in a kill or cure sort of way that Milne is so influential.
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    Tim_B said:

    GeoffM said:

    murali_s said:

    Tim_B said:

    murali_s said:

    GeoffM said:

    murali_s said:

    Tim_B said:

    A brief weather note. It was 75 here yesterday. Same today.

    The Hyundai Sun Bowl started at noon mountain time at - yes - The Sun Bowl (it really is called that) in El Paso TX. At game time it was 68. Within 90 minutes the temperature had dropped to freezing and it was snowing heavily for a while. It's now raining and 38.

    Meanwhile 650 miles away in Dallas TX the Cotton Bowl game is also being played. started at 70 and sunny, now it's pouring with rain and cooler.

    This weather is just bizarre. They keep saying it's a big El Nino year.

    This is a British blog - we use degrees Celsius here!
    You might do. Don't drag "we" into anything.
    I apologise! However, most if not all young people use degrees Celsius. Moreover many old people now have no issues with using the more logical degrees Celsius. Anyway this is an issue which over time will resolve itself.
    They don't use celsius here. We still have ounces, pounds, pints and gallons - though the last 2 are not imperial size.

    I don't have a problem with celsius - just no use for it.

    So if it's 75 in Atlanta, I'll say it's 75, not 23 or whatever it is in Crazius. If I'm talking about the temp in England I'd give it in celsius. When I left in the late 70s the UK still used fahrenheit.
    Again and sorry to be pedantic this is a British blog - degrees Celsius is the unit of temperature used here. Fahrenheit means nothing to me and the majority here. I don't give a monkeys what temperature scale they use in the US - if they want to be archaic, it's up to them.

    It's akin to me moving to France and posting on this site in French because it's the language they use there!!
    Some trivial Google-Fu offers an Express front page about 100F in July last year.

    I'm sure there are more recent examples too but because it's for you I can't be arsed.

    http://www.thepaperboy.com/uk/2014/07/16/front-pages-headlines.cfm

    Why would they publish something that nobody understood?
    I've been posting on here for years quoting fahrenheit temperatures, and I think this person is the first to complain about it. Then to claim I started the argument.

    I wonder where the server is located?
    I think I told you off for using Fahrenheit before :lol:
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    OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 32,126
    edited December 2015
    Tim_B said:

    GeoffM said:

    murali_s said:

    Tim_B said:

    murali_s said:

    GeoffM said:

    murali_s said:

    Tim_B said:

    A brief weather note. It was 75 here yesterday. Same today.

    The Hyundai Sun Bowl started at noon mountain time at - yes - The Sun Bowl (it really is called that) in El Paso TX. At game time it was 68. Within 90 minutes the temperature had dropped to freezing and it was snowing heavily for a while. It's now raining and 38.

    Meanwhile 650 miles away in Dallas TX the Cotton Bowl game is also being played. started at 70 and sunny, now it's pouring with rain and cooler.

    This weather is just bizarre. They keep saying it's a big El Nino year.

    This is a British blog - we use degrees Celsius here!
    You might do. Don't drag "we" into anything.
    I apologise! However, most if not all young people use degrees Celsius. Moreover many old people now have no issues with using the more logical degrees Celsius. Anyway this is an issue which over time will resolve itself.
    They don't use celsius here. We still have ounces, pounds, pints and gallons - though the last 2 are not imperial size.

    I don't have a problem with celsius - just no use for it.

    So if it's 75 in Atlanta, I'll say it's 75, not 23 or whatever it is in Crazius. If I'm talking about the temp in England I'd give it in celsius. When I left in the late 70s the UK still used fahrenheit.
    Again and sorry to be pedantic this is a British blog - degrees Celsius is the unit of temperature used here. Fahrenheit means nothing to me and the majority here. I don't give a monkeys what temperature scale they use in the US - if they want to be archaic, it's up to them.

    It's akin to me moving to France and posting on this site in French because it's the language they use there!!
    Some trivial Google-Fu offers an Express front page about 100F in July last year.

    I'm sure there are more recent examples too but because it's for you I can't be arsed.

    http://www.thepaperboy.com/uk/2014/07/16/front-pages-headlines.cfm

    Why would they publish something that nobody understood?
    I've been posting on here for years quoting fahrenheit temperatures, and I think this person is the first to complain about it. Then to claim I started the argument.

    I wonder where the server is located?
    I suspect that deg F is used in UK when it means a headline, as 100 degF! Othewise we British do seem to have migrated away from Fahrenheit..
    As a child my mother used to worry is my temperature wasn't 98.4. Now there's concern if my grandchildren are much away from 37.

    Bit like hunting with packs of dogs in UK; Degs F time has gone!
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    GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071
    murali_s said:



    Two words - Daily Express!

    Jeez - are people on the juice or are they really that thick?

    PS - GeoffM - you were meant to have a bet with me that 2014 was going to be the warmest year ever recorded! Seemed like you chickened out - shame!

    Anyway, any bets for 2016? I say with anthropogenic forcing on the climate in full gear, 2016 will be the warmest year ever recorded - take me up on this bet??

    I would have bet with you if you'd sent me a Vanilla message with the framing of the conditions as you said you would.

    And I would have won.

    NASA admitted that there was only a 38% probability that 2014 was warmest by 0.01C with a margin of error of 0.1C. There we go ... I even quoted NASA in metric so that your tiny brain could understand your loss.

    Statistical tie with 2005 and 2010 would have given the bet to me.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2015/01/18/ooops-nasa-now-38-sure-2014-was-warmest-year-on-record/
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    GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071
    Tim_B said:

    GeoffM said:

    murali_s said:

    Tim_B said:

    murali_s said:

    GeoffM said:

    murali_s said:

    Tim_B said:

    A brief weather note. It was 75 here yesterday. Same today.

    The Hyundai Sun Bowl started at noon mountain time at - yes - The Sun Bowl (it really is called that) in El Paso TX. At game time it was 68. Within 90 minutes the temperature had dropped to freezing and it was snowing heavily for a while. It's now raining and 38.

    Meanwhile 650 miles away in Dallas TX the Cotton Bowl game is also being played. started at 70 and sunny, now it's pouring with rain and cooler.

    This weather is just bizarre. They keep saying it's a big El Nino year.

    This is a British blog - we use degrees Celsius here!
    You might do. Don't drag "we" into anything.
    I apologise! However, most if not all young people use degrees Celsius. Moreover many old people now have no issues with using the more logical degrees Celsius. Anyway this is an issue which over time will resolve itself.
    They don't use celsius here. We still have ounces, pounds, pints and gallons - though the last 2 are not imperial size.

    I don't have a problem with celsius - just no use for it.

    So if it's 75 in Atlanta, I'll say it's 75, not 23 or whatever it is in Crazius. If I'm talking about the temp in England I'd give it in celsius. When I left in the late 70s the UK still used fahrenheit.
    Again and sorry to be pedantic this is a British blog - degrees Celsius is the unit of temperature used here. Fahrenheit means nothing to me and the majority here. I don't give a monkeys what temperature scale they use in the US - if they want to be archaic, it's up to them.

    It's akin to me moving to France and posting on this site in French because it's the language they use there!!
    Some trivial Google-Fu offers an Express front page about 100F in July last year.

    I'm sure there are more recent examples too but because it's for you I can't be arsed.

    http://www.thepaperboy.com/uk/2014/07/16/front-pages-headlines.cfm

    Why would they publish something that nobody understood?
    I've been posting on here for years quoting fahrenheit temperatures, and I think this person is the first to complain about it. Then to claim I started the argument.

    I wonder where the server is located?
    PB.com is hosted in Rackspace in London.

    But with a name like Murali he's probably in his mother's basement in Tamil Nadu.
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    MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,322
    edited December 2015
    Has anyone ever done a major Cabinet or Shadow Cabinet reshuffle within less than 4 months of appointing a Cabinet / Shadow Cabinet?

    Replacing Benn with Abbott is surely going to play very badly with both the media and floating voters.

    Whilst reshuffles normally have very little impact with the public, such a change is bound to generate a lot of adverse publicity.

    Irrespective of Abbott's political views, she is very well known to the public and I doubt many people see her as anywhere near heavyweight enough to occupy the Foreign Secretary position (even if only Shadow).
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    TomTom Posts: 273
    One of Cameron's better decisions in the 2010 to 2015 government was Cabinet stability.
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    Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    edited December 2015

    Tim_B said:

    GeoffM said:

    murali_s said:

    Tim_B said:

    murali_s said:

    GeoffM said:

    murali_s said:

    Tim_B said:

    \

    This is a British blog - we use degrees Celsius here!
    You might do. Don't drag "we" into anything.
    I apologise! However, most if not all young people use degrees Celsius. Moreover many old people now have no issues with using the more logical degrees Celsius. Anyway this is an issue which over time will resolve itself.
    They don't use celsius here. We still have ounces, pounds, pints and gallons - though the last 2 are not imperial size.

    I don't have a problem with celsius - just no use for it.

    So if it's 75 in Atlanta, I'll say it's 75, not 23 or whatever it is in Crazius. If I'm talking about the temp in England I'd give it in celsius. When I left in the late 70s the UK still used fahrenheit.
    Again and sorry to be pedantic this is a British blog - degrees Celsius is the unit of temperature used here. Fahrenheit means nothing to me and the majority here. I don't give a monkeys what temperature scale they use in the US - if they want to be archaic, it's up to them.

    It's akin to me moving to France and posting on this site in French because it's the language they use there!!
    Some trivial Google-Fu offers an Express front page about 100F in July last year.

    I'm sure there are more recent examples too but because it's for you I can't be arsed.

    http://www.thepaperboy.com/uk/2014/07/16/front-pages-headlines.cfm

    Why would they publish something that nobody understood?
    I've been posting on here for years quoting fahrenheit temperatures, and I think this person is the first to complain about it. Then to claim I started the argument.

    I wonder where the server is located?
    I suspect that deg F is used in UK when it means a headline, as 100 degF! Othewise we British do seem to have migrated away from Fahrenheit..
    As a child my mother used to worry is my temperature wasn't 98.4. Now there's concern if my grandchildren are much away from 37.
    Can we draw a line under this - it's a fatuous subject not worthy of argument.

    I have no problem with anyone or any nation using celsius. The nation where I live doesn't so I work in fahrenheit. Is there really anyone here who can't translate from one to the other within a few degrees in their head?

    By the way it's almost 7pm and still over 70 here :lol:
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