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At the same time Labour continues to advance and today’s share and recent results suggest that the party is benefitting most from UKIP going off the boil.
The focus on matters economic will hardly help Farage either right now. NF needs the tory backbenchers to run about like headless chickens on Europe or immigration again. For some reason Cammie and Osbrowne don't seem too keen to repeat that error. For the moment.
The areas where the local elections were enthused UKIP voters and the likelihood to vote figures for Labour slipped as Tory core areas were holding elections. MORI certainly showed this and ICM's sample last month was just odd. Normality is resuming, with Labour seemingly gaining pensioner votes in todays YouGov
36/36 with the Tories UKIP down to 15.
Ladbrokes have cut their 7/4 on UKIP 5-10% to 6/4, which is still value.
But you are going to get a second bite at a juicier cherry come the Euros, tim.
Comedy Ultra-Blairite suggests little Ed's response to tory positioning should be to agree to tory policies on the spot without even thinking about them. World recoils in shock.
The areas where the local elections were enthused UKIP voters and the likelihood to vote figures for Labour slipped as Tory core areas were holding elections. MORI certainly showed this and ICM's sample last month was just odd. Normality is resuming, with Labour seemingly gaining pensioner votes in todays YouGov
36/36 with the Tories UKIP down to 15.
Ladbrokes have cut their 7/4 on UKIP 5-10% to 6/4, which is still value.
But you are going to get a second bite at a juicier cherry come the Euros, tim.
Doubtful, we're used to UKIP surges at Euro elections and how they melt away. What helps Farage most is the Tories banging on about Europe and Immigration,and surely even Osborne and Cameron have learned that lesson now?
I realise that the PB Tories still get excited by those subjects, but even, even they must have realised that banging on about them helps UKIP?
Cameron will do most of the talking about Europe in German from now until the election.
You may however be able to get a few translations from the FCO EU Competences Review site.
Good for Labour, although getting excited over a tracker is not wise. It also suggests there's a soft protest vote. Of course, that might help come the election, when Labour's the sole nationwide opposition, but it might not.
No market up on Webber's replacement on Ladbrokes, as yet.
I have a couple of potential names in mind. Raikkonen seems to be what most people think, but I'd be very wary of switching to Red Bull if I were in his position.
Labour and a smallish % of its more Leftish supporters seem to be very unwilling to accept that the world changed in 2008/09. I've been rudely reminded of this in an unexpected way when watching The Sopranos.
In one series - its Mobland where screwing $6k a week from a line of business was easy pickings and soccer-moms bet on the stockmarket with their spare cash...then it all turned to dust and even wiseguys are feeling the pinch in a serious way.
Why Labour in 2013 are still clinging onto the notion that handing out freebies is electorally appealing is beyond me - the polling is very clear on this, even last June - when the £26k benefit cap was in play, voters were saying 'its still too much'.
On this specific point, Dan Hodges is right. Labour intellectually get that they need to accept the need for cuts and even to accept the need for specific cuts, but the moment a new specific cut comes up, they default to opposition. For a party that isn't trusted to take tough decisions, it's a really bad trait.
While I didn't like the way that George Osborne expressed himself when he introduced a 7 day wait for claiming benefits for the newly unemployed, this is a group who will normally have funds to rely upon, either from redundancy or severance payments or from some accrued savings from their past wages. If pain is to be shared around, this is one group of recipients of social security that is more likely to be able to bear a share of the pain than others.
That's where the debate sits on the right. I'd argue that GO has been too slow to address the real economy. The UK needs growth and won't get back to it until overdue reforms are enacted. It's a question of priorities and GO sets his on political bear traps rather than what the real world needs. In essence this is a wasted parliament for economic reform, since now nothing contoversial will be addressed before a GE, the next 2 years will be games and giveaways.
So that's 7 years, before the UK addresses it's banking crash of 2008, 5 years until the tax code can be simplified ( it's bigger than when GO started ), 5 years when regulation grows apace etc.
For a nation in crisis we are remarkably complacent.
For those who might be interested in the short comedy (which is coming along nicely) there's also a link to a first draft at the very first scene included in the interview.
Watching FMQs. Interesting stuff. Salmond is clearly well within his comfort zone. Ruth Davidson is one of the most convincing Tories I've seen in a long time.
Just having a look at the detail of the infrastructure announcement. There appear to be a rash of new "managed motorway" schemes. Does anyone have a good word to say about these?
I find them a blight on the network, and the thought of having to drive through more stretches of them - during construction and when built - leaves me wishing the government would cut its capital spending again...
I can't think of a better time for this to come out - there are two years to ram this home and all but Evil Tory Haters will ignore it and they wouldn't give them credit for anything so nothing lost.
"The double-dip recession never happened: Revised figures show economy performed better than thought
- Economy did not shrink in first quarter of 2012, new data shows - Recession is two consecutive quarters of negative growth - It means Britain last suffered a recession in 2008-09
Does anyone know what's the Labour position on the Scottish budget cuts and loans? Clearly not something that the SNP has the power to do anything about directly.
Could be a potent issue in the ref. debate and a possible USP for the red team north of the border in the GE.
"The double-dip recession never happened: Revised figures show economy performed better than thought
- Economy did not shrink in first quarter of 2012, new data shows - Recession is two consecutive quarters of negative growth - It means Britain last suffered a recession in 2008-09
If anyone has access to Wikipedia, there is a recession to be removed from one of their lists...
As you see, I was right about what I expected for this Parliament.
There are as ever AF a lot of valid points in what you have written. The basic premise comes down to us accepting less gimmickery and more responsibility if we are to simplify. Sadly none of our major parties is prepared to seriously pursue this path, they all want to micro manage us.
In his wisdom he vaulted over the part where where Balls actually falls into this hypothetical trap by opposing the 7 days delay. Didn't stop him from saying little Ed and labour had marched into the trap though despite his amusingly grudging and sheepish admission later on that they hadn't. Nor did it stop him from opining that little Ed's problems had moved on from not supporting policies Dan likes to not being believed enough on policies Dan likes. Maybe not wearing the right tie when announcing policies that Dan likes will be his next crime?
It sort of begs the question why on earth would anyone bother with Hodges when there are so many other right wing commentators saying the precise same things. Presumably because they're too thick to understand his little Ed fixation and blatantly obvious grudge against him is why the Telegraph pay him.
Does anyone know what's the Labour position on the Scottish budget cuts and loans? Clearly not something that the SNP has the power to do anything about directly.
Could be a potent issue in the ref. debate and a possible USP for the red team north of the border in the GE.
Anyway, on topic, whatever's going on here, the Tories should be very worried that they remain stubbornly stuck at core vote levels even as the UKIP surge subsides.
The dog that did not bark.....people wonder why the Sun wants to make Osborne look like a posh boy.....yet nobody asks why the New Statesman wants to make Ed look like a nancy boy.....
"The double-dip recession never happened: Revised figures show economy performed better than thought
- Economy did not shrink in first quarter of 2012, new data shows - Recession is two consecutive quarters of negative growth - It means Britain last suffered a recession in 2008-09
If anyone has access to Wikipedia, there is a recession to be removed from one of their lists...
"And Southam Observer is right about the despicable 7 day stuff, kicking people at precisely their most vulnerable moment. Ed Balls struck a good note with the reference to Wonga but Labour really needs to stop equivocating on this one and oppose it outright. I get that we are not committing to stuff until about April 30 2015, but mood music matters too."
You make a very good point. I heard Ed B on Radio 4 and thought he was pretty good except for his obfuscation. I'm afraid the time has come where Labour have to stand up and be counted. I sense that the country are crying out for a reason to ditch this privileged and mean spirited bunch of charlatans but Labour owe it to the voters to give them some positive reasons to choose them.
"The double-dip recession never happened: Revised figures show economy performed better than thought
- Economy did not shrink in first quarter of 2012, new data shows - Recession is two consecutive quarters of negative growth - It means Britain last suffered a recession in 2008-09
If anyone has access to Wikipedia, there is a recession to be removed from one of their lists...
The dog that did not bark.....people wonder why the Sun wants to make Osborne look like a posh boy.....yet nobody asks why the New Statesman wants to make Ed look like a nancy boy.....
EdM looks like a Japan-fan reject in that pix - what were they thinking of? Labour leader does New Romantics doesn't seem the most obvious comparison to make.
"And Southam Observer is right about the despicable 7 day stuff, kicking people at precisely their most vulnerable moment. Ed Balls struck a good note with the reference to Wonga but Labour really needs to stop equivocating on this one and oppose it outright. I get that we are not committing to stuff until about April 30 2015, but mood music matters too."
You make a very good point. I heard Ed B on Radio 4 and thought he was pretty good except for his obfuscation. I'm afraid the time has come where Labour have to stand up and be counted. I sense that the country are crying out for a reason to ditch this privileged and mean spirited bunch of charlatans but Labour owe it to the voters to give them some positive reasons to choose them.
Sorry Roger, Labour are following Ed Baldrick's cunning plan of telling the voters nothing, ignoring communications and setting the scene and seeing what resonates. They might just publish their manifesto at lunchtime the day before the next election. In Urdu. Written upside down. With black ink on black paper.
The dog that did not bark.....people wonder why the Sun wants to make Osborne look like a posh boy.....yet nobody asks why the New Statesman wants to make Ed look like a nancy boy.....
Is there a hint in the article to explain why?
"Does Ed Miliband wear make-up? The Labour leader’s face appeared powdered at the New Statesman’s centenary bash. Mili’s abrupt “No” when your columnist asked only served to fuel my suspicions.
Really? I would have though now would be a bad time for the opposition to announce anything specific. The govt have played their hand, surely it's worth digesting that while everyone is off for the summer.
So, according to PB Tories so far this morning, Labour have all of:
1) no policies 2) some vague policies that are the same as Osborne's 3) some vague policies that they keep u-turning on 4) some definite policies, like "handing out freebies", that are the wrong policies
Does anyone know what's the Labour position on the Scottish budget cuts and loans?
Glorious confusion. SLAB so want to hammer the tories for it but they have to wait for approval from little Ed and Balls. It's why we knew there was going to be a spate of triangulation on tory policies before they were even announced. Lamont and SLAB had quite obviously been told to back off from going in hard on the bedroom tax, welfare and other cuts and started equivocating in a most amusing manner when questioned on them.
So, according to PB Tories so far this morning, Labour have all of:
1) no policies 2) some vague policies that are the same as Osborne's 3) some vague policies that they keep u-turning on 4) some definite policies, like "handing out freebies", that are the wrong policies
The dog that did not bark.....people wonder why the Sun wants to make Osborne look like a posh boy.....yet nobody asks why the New Statesman wants to make Ed look like a nancy boy.....
Ed looks just like a man-servant to an 18th century fop.
"And Southam Observer is right about the despicable 7 day stuff, kicking people at precisely their most vulnerable moment."
Nonsense - if you lose your job, I can't think of one I've had that didn't pay 1 week in arrears or longer.
Frankly - needing to sign-on once a week is a much bigger cost for those who aren't within a walk /short bus ride of their dole office.
For me to get to my JCP and back costs over £8 plus a 4 mile walk. To do that every week rather than once every two is the price of several days food or power. Those in rural areas will be penalised by this quite significantly.
So, according to PB Tories so far this morning, Labour have all of:
1) no policies 2) some vague policies that are the same as Osborne's 3) some vague policies that they keep u-turning on 4) some definite policies, like "handing out freebies", that are the wrong policies
Missed anything?
Tell you what Carl why don't you clear things up and tell us what Labour's policies are ? Start with the economy since that's topical.
Operations have been delayed and waiting lists allowed to grow at hospitals in north Wales to avoid financial problems getting worse, according to a damning report.
"Significant management failings" risked patient safety for under-reporting infections.
The chairman and chief executive of Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board are to step down after the findings.
Health and audit watchdogs found a catalogue of problems.
BCUHB runs NHS services in north Wales with a budget of around £1.2bn.
Healthcare Inspectorate Wales (HIW) and the Wales Audit Office (WAO) found a series of problems at the health board, which runs Ysbyty Gwynedd, Glan Clwyd and Wrexham Maelor hospitals.
They included finding that the relationship between chairman Prof Merfyn Jones and chief executive Mary Burrows had broken down and compromised the organisation.
I know pollsters have got pretty sophisticated about how they ask the questions, but there must be some genuine don't knows but will vote about. Has anyone any definite facts about how many of those describing themselves as voters are really soft about their intentions?
Really? I would have though now would be a bad time for the opposition to announce anything specific. The govt have played their hand, surely it's worth digesting that while everyone is off for the summer.
The dog that did not bark.....people wonder why the Sun wants to make Osborne look like a posh boy.....yet nobody asks why the New Statesman wants to make Ed look like a nancy boy.....
Is there a hint in the article to explain why?
"Does Ed Miliband wear make-up? The Labour leader’s face appeared powdered at the New Statesman’s centenary bash. Mili’s abrupt “No” when your columnist asked only served to fuel my suspicions.
The dog that did not bark.....people wonder why the Sun wants to make Osborne look like a posh boy.....yet nobody asks why the New Statesman wants to make Ed look like a nancy boy.....
Ed looks just like a man-servant to an 18th century fop.
I can't think of one I've had that didn't pay 1 week in arrears or longer.
Is it not 7 days before you can even claim? You only actually receive money some time after that. If the monthly payments are introduced, could potentially be 5 weeks, perhaps longer before you have any financial support after losing your job. Not pretty.
The dog that did not bark.....people wonder why the Sun wants to make Osborne look like a posh boy.....yet nobody asks why the New Statesman wants to make Ed look like a nancy boy.....
Is there a hint in the article to explain why?
"Does Ed Miliband wear make-up? The Labour leader’s face appeared powdered at the New Statesman’s centenary bash. Mili’s abrupt “No” when your columnist asked only served to fuel my suspicions.
The dog that did not bark.....people wonder why the Sun wants to make Osborne look like a posh boy.....yet nobody asks why the New Statesman wants to make Ed look like a nancy boy.....
Ed looks just like a man-servant to an 18th century fop.
Light opera lovers will call it a trouser role.
Perhaps little Ed should knock up some airbrushed posters for the election campaign? Because nobody would be that stupid, would they? ;^ )
I can't think of one I've had that didn't pay 1 week in arrears or longer.
Is it not 7 days before you can even claim? You only actually receive money some time after that. If the monthly payments are introduced, could potentially be 5 weeks, perhaps longer before you have any financial support after losing your job. Not pretty.
policies Carl, policies, any chance you can clear things up ? several posters have invited you to tell us what Labour's policies are. Any chance ?
The Wonga coup: Chancellor George Osborne's 'gift to the payday lenders' in Government Spending Review
At present, the unemployed are not eligible for Jobseeker's Allowance for three days. But charities and pressure groups warned that extending that to seven days would cause unnecessary hardship.
Chris Mould, executive chairman of the Trussell Trust, which has launched 325 foodbanks, told The Independent that 30 per cent of the 346,000 people it helped in 2012-13 were referred to them because of benefit delays and a further 15 per cent due to benefit changes. "Any decision that delays further the timely receipt of social security will make things worse for some," he said. "Lots of people are referred to us because they already have problems with debts, many with short term loan organisations."
Alison Gardham, chief executive of Child Poverty Action Group, condemned the seven-day wait as a "foodbanks first policy." She said: "There should be no doubt this will leave more families and children cold and hungry and push more families towards doorstep lenders and foodbanks."
Fiona Weir, chief executive of Gingerbread, which represents lone parents, said: "We know that any delay in benefit payments is crippling for single parent families. With an additional seven-day wait, we fear many more will be forced to rely on food banks and payday loans to make up the new shortfall."
The Catholic Church said: "The proposed seven-day wait before jobseekers can claim benefits could cause severe financial hardship for families who are already trying to balance tight budgets and meet rent payments. Without robust safeguards in place, the requirement that claimants learn English has the potential to penalise some of the most vulnerable members of society."
"Byron burgers confirmed today that they don't deliver either"
Burgers? Oh come on guys you can do better than this.
I notice there's been quite a bit of playing the man from the left in the last few days. Is that because labour essentially agree with the coalition's policies?
"Byron burgers confirmed today that they don't deliver either"
Burgers? Oh come on guys you can do better than this.
I notice there's been quite a bit of playing the man from the left in the last few days. Is that because labour essentially agree with the coalition's policies?
it's because they have no policies. So what's left but to play the man ?
I can't think of one I've had that didn't pay 1 week in arrears or longer.
Is it not 7 days before you can even claim? You only actually receive money some time after that. If the monthly payments are introduced, could potentially be 5 weeks, perhaps longer before you have any financial support after losing your job. Not pretty.
policies Carl, policies, any chance you can clear things up ? several posters have invited you to tell us what Labour's policies are. Any chance ?
As I understand it, they've said they'll stick to Osborne's overall spending envelope. But can't set out many detailed policies this far out because they don't know what shape things will be in, which is sensible / standard opposition trick, or both (depending on your viewpoint).
As far as specific policies go, bringing back the 10p tax paid for by a mansion tax springs to mind. There's not many, maybe one or two others I think, but I'm sure you can find / make them up as appropriate.
The New Statesman makes the argument the two Eds are scared to:
How the Lib Dems broke their promise to block new welfare cuts The party vowed to block further welfare cuts but the seven-day wait for benefits amounts to a £245m cut.
The 7 day wait is cruel and mean in the extreme. I would expect most people to have sympathy with anyone who has just lost their job so it may not be as popular as Osborne thinks it will. It also shows a shocking lack of understanding about what real poverty means. I would expect nothing less from him.
I can't think of one I've had that didn't pay 1 week in arrears or longer.
Is it not 7 days before you can even claim? You only actually receive money some time after that. If the monthly payments are introduced, could potentially be 5 weeks, perhaps longer before you have any financial support after losing your job. Not pretty.
policies Carl, policies, any chance you can clear things up ? several posters have invited you to tell us what Labour's policies are. Any chance ?
As I understand it, they've said they'll stick to Osborne's overall spending envelope. But can't set out many detailed policies this far out because they don't know what shape things will be in, which is sensible / standard opposition trick, or both (depending on your viewpoint).
As far as specific policies go, bringing back the 10p tax paid for by a mansion tax springs to mind. There's not many, maybe one or two others I think, but I'm sure you can find / make them up as appropriate.
You're struggling mate, I sympathise. It's mushroom politics.
Or we could believe PB tory anecdote. That's a tough one.
Perhaps Labour could call this the "naive" tax - a penalty for those to stupid to forward plan by retaining some savings.
Perhaps you should stick that on a poster with "vote conservative" and add something about "let them eat cake".
You clearly don't remember why the tories elected Cammie as leader in the first place. Ask Theresa May since she at least knew that becoming the nasty party made you unelectable for more than a decade. Cammie's own polling is now on a par with the tory brand and if you don't understand what that means then that would be your problem.
I know pollsters have got pretty sophisticated about how they ask the questions, but there must be some genuine don't knows but will vote about. Has anyone any definite facts about how many of those describing themselves as voters are really soft about their intentions?
Great poll for Labour. Most worrying for CON will be to see that as UKIP support goes up, CON support goes down, but as UKIP support goes down, CON support seems to remain static...
I don't think the average Labour lead has shifted at all in June (although today's lead is at the top of the range). The average lead throughout the month has been 8.2%, which I think is a touch down on the pre-local election figure.
Barring a by-election, UKIP's numbers should gradually subside, although they remain well up, on average, compared to 12 months ago.
UKIP will surge again, in the run up to next year's Euro elections, and this will also win them plenty of seats in the local elections that are held on the same day.
Or we could believe PB tory anecdote. That's a tough one.
Perhaps Labour could call this the "naive" tax - a penalty for those to stupid to forward plan by retaining some savings.
Perhaps you should stick that on a poster with "vote conservative" and add something about "let them eat cake".
You clearly don't remember why the tories elected Cammie as leader in the first place. Ask Theresa May since she at least knew that becoming the nasty party made you unelectable for well over a decade.
I'm not a party member Pork - just a voter - and one that doesn't like metropolitan socialists patronising the less fortunate - like the vested interests in your post.
Some wonder why we Yes Scotland supporters are seemingly so desperate to cut all political ties with the rest of the UK (rUK) when we already have our own devolved parliament at Holyrood. Why do we want to stir things up and drag ourselves through unnecessary turmoil? Who would be so mad as to do that??
People who value the principles of democracy.
I thought to myself ‘what if the UK as a whole was in a similar position to Scotland at Westminster?’. What if the 3rd and 4th placed parties governed in coalition for England? A totally hypothetical question, of course – yet not irrelevant to the current debate. We in Scotland – as indeed in Wales and Northern Ireland too – are governed by a coalition that the vast majority of our electorate rejected at the ballot box.
So I applied the same rules to the UK as a whole, using the 3rd and 4th placed parties as the hypothetical coalition government.
Using vote percentage, this would result in a Lib Dem/UKIP government. What a lovely thought!
"A Ladbrokes shop took a £200k bet on Scotland voting NO to independence next year"
Presumably that's the old trick of a campaign supporter (or supporters) betting large sums to distort the headline betting odds. Well, it didn't work for Chris Huhne.
It seems now that lefties are in love with McDonalds . all I heard for years from them was that it was a multinational (therefore might not be paying its fair share of tax) that made poor people fat and of course the lefties look to deride 'McJobs' . To add to this it is so obviously american .
Roll on Wednesday the 26th June 2013 and they are frothing at the mouth that the Chancellor did NOT order from McDonalds -You couldn't make it up
"There is one other parliament where we have less influence than we should: the European Parliament.
Scotland has a population of roughly 5.25 million. We have 6 MEPs representing us in Europe. Malta has a population of 0.45million. They have 6 MEPs representing them in Europe. That’s a country with 8.6% of the population that we have with an identical number of MEPs. That simply can’t be right, by anyone’s reckoning. Independent countries of similar size to Scotland have double that: Ireland (with 4.5million citizens) has 12 MEPs, Slovakia and Denmark with 5.4-5.5million have 13. Considering that the Scottish Parliament covers legislation on the majority of our civic issues, we are grossly under-represented at the European level – where politicians legislate on mainly civic issues."
Or we could believe PB tory anecdote. That's a tough one.
Perhaps Labour could call this the "naive" tax - a penalty for those to stupid to forward plan by retaining some savings.
Perhaps you should stick that on a poster with "vote conservative" and add something about "let them eat cake".
You clearly don't remember why the tories elected Cammie as leader in the first place. Ask Theresa May since she at least knew that becoming the nasty party made you unelectable for well over a decade.
I'm not a party member Pork - just a voter - and one that doesn't like metropolitan socialists patronising the less fortunate - like the vested interests in your post.
*tears of laughter etc.*
So hopelessly out of touch yet so completely oblivious to it.
So according to you the Trussell Trust and their 325 foodbanks, the Child Poverty Action Group, Gingerbread who represent lone parents and the Catholic Church are ALL "vested interests" and "metropolitan socialists patronising the less fortunate".
You remember when the chumocracy referred to certain right wingers as "mad swivel-eyed loons", who do you think they were talking about?
"@JamesKelly - good luck negotiating EU accession"
Thankyou for the moral support, but as you know the UK government's advisers feel that the timetable suggested by the SNP for negotiating continued EU membership is "realistic".
I take it you feel that underrepresentation in the European Parliament is a good thing for Scotland?
On topic, I would treat YouGov with a touch of scepticism given the way the established three are prompted for whereas UKIP isn't. That said, the figures do give some idea of how shallow UKIP's support is.
One other feature of the figures is how stable the other numbers are, with 31/39/10 as a standard. The Labour figure does look like a bit of an outlier at the moment, without any obvious prompt to provoke a 2% shift, and I suspect is linked to Mike's point about UKIP's non-visibility i.e. it's people with very soft party identification looking to register a protest against the government. (That 'others' has also risen a point or two since the start of the month may also be part of the same protest).
"A Ladbrokes shop took a £200k bet on Scotland voting NO to independence next year"
Presumably that's the old trick of a campaign supporter (or supporters) betting large sums to distort the headline betting odds. Well, it didn't work for Chris Huhne.
Or maybe they've read the polls and seen the campaign so far.
And if it is "cruel and mean in the extreme" - why have the two Eds not denounced it unequivocally?
Yes, really terrible. Clearly the end of civilised life as we know it. After all, in the Western world only evil ideologically extreme right-wing countries like Sweden (7 days), Denmark (3 weeks if you were self-employed), Finland (7 days), or Switzerland (5 days) would even think of such a cruel measure.
"Or maybe they've read the polls and seen the campaign so far."
Maybe, but if so, why on earth would they bet £200,000 at...what was it, 1/5? 1/6? On any rational view of the campaign and the polls (Yes just eight points behind in the latest one), that's crazy.
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Is it a residential property development near Malaga?
FPT rcs1000 - if Ocado did fail I suspect Amazon would love to buy them on the cheap.....
Ocado are surely not too big to fail, but Tesco?
I'm not altogether certain that the rest of the grocery market could cope with one-third of it shutting up shop overnight.
"Osborne's welfare announcement was a trap, a blatant, neon-signposted trap. And Labour marched in, again"
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danhodges/100223727/osbornes-welfare-announcement-was-a-trap-a-blatant-neon-signposted-trap-and-labour-marched-in-again/
You may however be able to get a few translations from the FCO EU Competences Review site.
I have a couple of potential names in mind. Raikkonen seems to be what most people think, but I'd be very wary of switching to Red Bull if I were in his position.
In one series - its Mobland where screwing $6k a week from a line of business was easy pickings and soccer-moms bet on the stockmarket with their spare cash...then it all turned to dust and even wiseguys are feeling the pinch in a serious way.
Why Labour in 2013 are still clinging onto the notion that handing out freebies is electorally appealing is beyond me - the polling is very clear on this, even last June - when the £26k benefit cap was in play, voters were saying 'its still too much'.
While I didn't like the way that George Osborne expressed himself when he introduced a 7 day wait for claiming benefits for the newly unemployed, this is a group who will normally have funds to rely upon, either from redundancy or severance payments or from some accrued savings from their past wages. If pain is to be shared around, this is one group of recipients of social security that is more likely to be able to bear a share of the pain than others.
@DavidL
FPT
That's where the debate sits on the right. I'd argue that GO has been too slow to address the real economy. The UK needs growth and won't get back to it until overdue reforms are enacted. It's a question of priorities and GO sets his on political bear traps rather than what the real world needs. In essence this is a wasted parliament for economic reform, since now nothing contoversial will be addressed before a GE, the next 2 years will be games and giveaways.
So that's 7 years, before the UK addresses it's banking crash of 2008, 5 years until the tax code can be simplified ( it's bigger than when GO started ), 5 years when regulation grows apace etc.
For a nation in crisis we are remarkably complacent.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSRXb2SesfE
Golly. ;^ )
http://politicalbetting.blogspot.co.uk/2010/07/negotiations-and-love-songs-why.html
As you see, I was right about what I expected for this Parliament.
http://www.indieauthorland.com/archives/3952
For those who might be interested in the short comedy (which is coming along nicely) there's also a link to a first draft at the very first scene included in the interview.
I find them a blight on the network, and the thought of having to drive through more stretches of them - during construction and when built - leaves me wishing the government would cut its capital spending again...
"The double-dip recession never happened: Revised figures show economy performed better than thought
- Economy did not shrink in first quarter of 2012, new data shows
- Recession is two consecutive quarters of negative growth
- It means Britain last suffered a recession in 2008-09
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2349469/The-double-dip-recession-happened-Revised-figures-economy-performed-better-thought.html#ixzz2XPmacTV3
PS Is anyone else being repeatedly thrown off Vanilla? I've signed in at least 3x already in 2hrs.
Could be a potent issue in the ref. debate and a possible USP for the red team north of the border in the GE.
http://www.newstatesman.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fullnode_image/articles_2013/201326maguire.jpg
*reaches for mind-bleach*
If anyone has access to Wikipedia, there is a recession to be removed from one of their lists...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_recessions_in_the_United_Kingdom
Good news for lawyers though.
It sort of begs the question why on earth would anyone bother with Hodges when there are so many other right wing commentators saying the precise same things. Presumably because they're too thick to understand his little Ed fixation and blatantly obvious grudge against him is why the Telegraph pay him.
Maybe they should ask Osborne.
Anyway, on topic, whatever's going on here, the Tories should be very worried that they remain stubbornly stuck at core vote levels even as the UKIP surge subsides.
"And Southam Observer is right about the despicable 7 day stuff, kicking people at precisely their most vulnerable moment. Ed Balls struck a good note with the reference to Wonga but Labour really needs to stop equivocating on this one and oppose it outright. I get that we are not committing to stuff until about April 30 2015, but mood music matters too."
You make a very good point. I heard Ed B on Radio 4 and thought he was pretty good except for his obfuscation. I'm afraid the time has come where Labour have to stand up and be counted. I sense that the country are crying out for a reason to ditch this privileged and mean spirited bunch of charlatans but Labour owe it to the voters to give them some positive reasons to choose them.
“He who controls the past controls the future. He who controls the present controls the past.”
― George Orwell, 1984
Is there a hint in the article to explain why?
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2013/06/commons-confidential-dont-let-them-eat-cake
But I don't think the implied effeminacy is accidental either.....
1) no policies
2) some vague policies that are the same as Osborne's
3) some vague policies that they keep u-turning on
4) some definite policies, like "handing out freebies", that are the wrong policies
Missed anything?
The word is unspoofable. ;^ )
Light opera lovers will call it a trouser role.
"And Southam Observer is right about the despicable 7 day stuff, kicking people at precisely their most vulnerable moment."
Nonsense - if you lose your job, I can't think of one I've had that didn't pay 1 week in arrears or longer.
Frankly - needing to sign-on once a week is a much bigger cost for those who aren't within a walk /short bus ride of their dole office.
For me to get to my JCP and back costs over £8 plus a 4 mile walk. To do that every week rather than once every two is the price of several days food or power. Those in rural areas will be penalised by this quite significantly.
Operations have been delayed and waiting lists allowed to grow at hospitals in north Wales to avoid financial problems getting worse, according to a damning report.
"Significant management failings" risked patient safety for under-reporting infections.
The chairman and chief executive of Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board are to step down after the findings.
Health and audit watchdogs found a catalogue of problems.
BCUHB runs NHS services in north Wales with a budget of around £1.2bn.
Healthcare Inspectorate Wales (HIW) and the Wales Audit Office (WAO) found a series of problems at the health board, which runs Ysbyty Gwynedd, Glan Clwyd and Wrexham Maelor hospitals.
They included finding that the relationship between chairman Prof Merfyn Jones and chief executive Mary Burrows had broken down and compromised the organisation.
Has anyone any definite facts about how many of those describing themselves as voters are really soft about their intentions?
Ed : I agree with Jeffrey
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-X8PyfenqpTE/TeInNxDccuI/AAAAAAAAB3Q/365xFVvYHp8/s1600/EdMilibandWeddingSuit.jpg It just shrieks 1980s.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgfAWJbjvGg
Is it not 7 days before you can even claim? You only actually receive money some time after that. If the monthly payments are introduced, could potentially be 5 weeks, perhaps longer before you have any financial support after losing your job. Not pretty.
Because nobody would be that stupid, would they? ;^ )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWut7c19SCg
you're on a road to nowhere
Burgers? Oh come on guys you can do better than this.
I notice there's been quite a bit of playing the man from the left in the last few days. Is that because labour essentially agree with the coalition's policies?
"Clean out of those, Sir!"
As far as specific policies go, bringing back the 10p tax paid for by a mansion tax springs to mind. There's not many, maybe one or two others I think, but I'm sure you can find / make them up as appropriate.
It's a crap choice - but I still think Osborne/tories will need 5 more years to pull us through this crisis.
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George Osborne or Ed balls
How the Lib Dems broke their promise to block new welfare cuts
The party vowed to block further welfare cuts but the seven-day wait for benefits amounts to a £245m cut.
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2013/06/how-lib-dems-broke-their-promise-block-new-welfare-cuts
Perhaps Labour could call this the "naive" tax - a penalty for those to stupid to forward plan by retaining some savings.
"Poor people can't budget - it's so cruel"
Patronising.
Perhaps you should stick that on a poster with "vote conservative" and add something about "let them eat cake".
You clearly don't remember why the tories elected Cammie as leader in the first place.
Ask Theresa May since she at least knew that becoming the nasty party made you unelectable for more than a decade. Cammie's own polling is now on a par with the tory brand and if you don't understand what that means then that would be your problem.
Any comment on these developments Tim?
The other established pollsters all have different approaches.
Barring a by-election, UKIP's numbers should gradually subside, although they remain well up, on average, compared to 12 months ago.
UKIP will surge again, in the run up to next year's Euro elections, and this will also win them plenty of seats in the local elections that are held on the same day.
You clearly don't remember why the tories elected Cammie as leader in the first place.
Ask Theresa May since she at least knew that becoming the nasty party made you unelectable for well over a decade.
I'm not a party member Pork - just a voter - and one that doesn't like metropolitan socialists patronising the less fortunate - like the vested interests in your post.
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/fraser-nelson/2013/06/audio-ed-balls-peddles-myths-again/
"Poor old Ed Balls. His economic policy seems to be imploding, and he was this morning reduced to concocting stories about the Wicked Tories. "
Some wonder why we Yes Scotland supporters are seemingly so desperate to cut all political ties with the rest of the UK (rUK) when we already have our own devolved parliament at Holyrood. Why do we want to stir things up and drag ourselves through unnecessary turmoil? Who would be so mad as to do that??
People who value the principles of democracy.
I thought to myself ‘what if the UK as a whole was in a similar position to Scotland at Westminster?’. What if the 3rd and 4th placed parties governed in coalition for England? A totally hypothetical question, of course – yet not irrelevant to the current debate. We in Scotland – as indeed in Wales and Northern Ireland too – are governed by a coalition that the vast majority of our electorate rejected at the ballot box.
So I applied the same rules to the UK as a whole, using the 3rd and 4th placed parties as the hypothetical coalition government.
Using vote percentage, this would result in a Lib Dem/UKIP government. What a lovely thought!
http://scottishindy2014.wordpress.com/2013/06/27/democracy-how-we-dont-really-have-it/
And if it is "cruel and mean in the extreme" - why have the two Eds not denounced it unequivocally?
Presumably that's the old trick of a campaign supporter (or supporters) betting large sums to distort the headline betting odds. Well, it didn't work for Chris Huhne.
Roll on Wednesday the 26th June 2013 and they are frothing at the mouth that the Chancellor did NOT order from McDonalds -You couldn't make it up
Why is McDonalds so good now Tim ?
"There is one other parliament where we have less influence than we should: the European Parliament.
Scotland has a population of roughly 5.25 million. We have 6 MEPs representing us in Europe. Malta has a population of 0.45million. They have 6 MEPs representing them in Europe. That’s a country with 8.6% of the population that we have with an identical number of MEPs. That simply can’t be right, by anyone’s reckoning. Independent countries of similar size to Scotland have double that: Ireland (with 4.5million citizens) has 12 MEPs, Slovakia and Denmark with 5.4-5.5million have 13. Considering that the Scottish Parliament covers legislation on the majority of our civic issues, we are grossly under-represented at the European level – where politicians legislate on mainly civic issues."
*tears of laughter etc.*
So hopelessly out of touch yet so completely oblivious to it.
So according to you the Trussell Trust and their 325 foodbanks, the Child Poverty Action Group, Gingerbread who represent lone parents and the Catholic Church are ALL "vested interests" and "metropolitan socialists patronising the less fortunate".
You remember when the chumocracy referred to certain right wingers as "mad swivel-eyed loons", who do you think they were talking about?
But the ONS said the recession in 2008 was deeper than previously estimated.
Gross domestic product (GDP) during that time is now estimated to have dropped by 7.2% from peak to trough, against a 6.3% fall previously recorded.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-23079082
I hope he loses ,if only to get rid of whinging 'its all England's fault' types
Thankyou for the moral support, but as you know the UK government's advisers feel that the timetable suggested by the SNP for negotiating continued EU membership is "realistic".
I take it you feel that underrepresentation in the European Parliament is a good thing for Scotland?
One other feature of the figures is how stable the other numbers are, with 31/39/10 as a standard. The Labour figure does look like a bit of an outlier at the moment, without any obvious prompt to provoke a 2% shift, and I suspect is linked to Mike's point about UKIP's non-visibility i.e. it's people with very soft party identification looking to register a protest against the government. (That 'others' has also risen a point or two since the start of the month may also be part of the same protest).
And a very good afternoon to you too, Alan. How are you today?
http://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/progdesc/ssptw/2012-2013/europe/switzerland.html
http://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/progdesc/ssptw/2012-2013/europe/finland.html
http://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/progdesc/ssptw/2012-2013/europe/denmark.html
http://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/progdesc/ssptw/2012-2013/europe/sweden.html
Maybe, but if so, why on earth would they bet £200,000 at...what was it, 1/5? 1/6? On any rational view of the campaign and the polls (Yes just eight points behind in the latest one), that's crazy.