most of them moderate enough to receive backing from the CIA
"Many of the groups who fall within both these categories are armed factions the Islamist-averse United States’ CIA has already ‘vetted’ and assessed as ‘moderate’ enough to receive lethal assistance."
which is very reassuring
Can you please assign an Irony Rating to that post? It's admirably deadpan and I can't tell!
most of them moderate enough to receive backing from the CIA
"Many of the groups who fall within both these categories are armed factions the Islamist-averse United States’ CIA has already ‘vetted’ and assessed as ‘moderate’ enough to receive lethal assistance."
which is very reassuring
Hmm...CIA doesn't exactly have a great record when it comes this. I watched a report on VICE where they were on the front line with the Free Syrian Army in the South and they weren't exactly types I fancy having come over for a chat.
I thought only 34 men graduated from the CIA funded US$ 0.5 bn program before it was abandoned. Some apparently joined ISIL.
most of them moderate enough to receive backing from the CIA
"Many of the groups who fall within both these categories are armed factions the Islamist-averse United States’ CIA has already ‘vetted’ and assessed as ‘moderate’ enough to receive lethal assistance."
which is very reassuring
Can you please assign an Irony Rating to that post? It's admirably deadpan and I can't tell!
And here in crystal clear details is why you are completely wrong.
Rape is not about the subjugation of men over women.
Rape is a crime of one INDIVIDUAL exerting power over another INDIVIDUAL. The fact that a large minority of victims are male changes your identity politics from naive to outright harmful.
I find it very interesting that you did not address my first point.
I also don't agree that I am wrong - I provided a historical context as to why rape is seen as a gendered issue, and that is correct. Issues can be multi-faceted. Certainly, in many cases of male-on-male rape, for instance part of the power dynamics include 'emasculation' - this contributes to the shame, and humiliation many male victims of rape feel, and why many do come forward. Why do they feel 'emasculated'? Because the subjugation of the male in this instance is like putting them in the 'feminine' role, which traditionally has been seen as one of passivity, and inferiority.
From your post it looks like seeing anything as sexist or racist you see as 'identity politics' tbh.
most of them moderate enough to receive backing from the CIA
"Many of the groups who fall within both these categories are armed factions the Islamist-averse United States’ CIA has already ‘vetted’ and assessed as ‘moderate’ enough to receive lethal assistance."
which is very reassuring
Can you please assign an Irony Rating to that post? It's admirably deadpan and I can't tell!
I am pleasantly drunk in the bar of the Fairmont Copley Place in Boston. Drinking a fruity 7.5% limited edition Harpoon IPA. One more, then dinner; enjoying, strangely, the Seahawks against the Steelers. One more, then dinner. Not even Jeremy Corbyn can spoil this.
I am pleasantly drunk in the bar of the Fairmont Copley Place in Boston. Drinking a fruity 7.5% limited edition Harpoon IPA. One more, then dinner; enjoying, strangely, the Seahawks against the Steelers. One more, then dinner. Not even Jeremy Corbyn can spoil this.
Your personality is increasingly merging with someone called SeanT.
I am pleasantly drunk in the bar of the Fairmont Copley Place in Boston. Drinking a fruity 7.5% limited edition Harpoon IPA. One more, then dinner; enjoying, strangely, the Seahawks against the Steelers. One more, then dinner. Not even Jeremy Corbyn can spoil this.
I just made do with "doing" Ashford International to Ramsgate via Canterbury West this afternoon
If it is true, then he should leave and start his own socialist party with the rag bag of really motivated members (who only seem to make a difference on social medja) and the likes of McDonnell and Abbot. I'm sure they could find another to make it a gang of four.
And then the moderate, centrist party that the 8m people voted for in May 2015 could have some proper representation.
I am pleasantly drunk in the bar of the Fairmont Copley Place in Boston. Drinking a fruity 7.5% limited edition Harpoon IPA. One more, then dinner; enjoying, strangely, the Seahawks against the Steelers. One more, then dinner. Not even Jeremy Corbyn can spoil this.
Amazing 80 yd TD for the Seahawks. Enjoy Boston. I find it about the most expensive US city after NYC - although for hotels not much in it.
Corbyn believes in sharing and so anyone else who pretends to be a socialist is a charlatan. They should go off and call themselves something else. He represents socialism so even if you do not agree with him at least you admire him for being honest which most of the rest are not!
Corbyn believes in sharing and so anyone else who pretends to be a socialist is a charlatan. They should go off and call themselves something else. He represents socialism so even if you do not agree with him at least you admire him for being honest which most of the rest are not!
Honest to whom?
They're being honest to the party in which they stood for election in May 2015. And by extension, honest to their voters.
Corbo is the serial rebel. It is bizarre, frankly, that he didn't leave years ago.
Are you lot incapable of responding to a comment. Corbyn is the real Labour Party and the rest of them are just hypercritics.
OK. I'll bite.
Far more people voted for the Lab MPs who are opposing Corbyn than the selectorate who voted for Corbyn.
Would they have been elected without standing as Labour party candidates. Also, more than 50% of Labour voters oppose air strikes.
Who is talking about air strikes?
I'm saying Corbyn is not representative of or able to empathise with the majority of Labour voters.
On that basis, what makes anyone think he would be electable?
On Thursday we will likely see this played out in Oldham.
"I'm saying Corbyn is not representative of or able to empathise with the majority of Labour voters."
Majority of Labour voters support Corbyn.
Er, I think you mean "Labour members, and registered supporters, and affiliates"!
I am talking about airstrikes. Majority of Labour voters are against air strikes.
Not in this poll (YouGov Nov 24/25)
Net approve RAF airstrikes in Syria: All: +49 Con: +62 Lab: +26
Trust to make right decision on Syria - OA (own party) Net: Cameron: +4 (+70) Corbyn: -47 (-6) Putin: -47 (NA)
Net, Labour voters are in favour of bombing Syria by a margin of 2:1 - and overall, voters trust a foreign head of state - Putin on Syria as much as they trust Corbyn.....even Labour voters don't trust Corbyn.....not bad for a couple of months in the job!
I believe there were some on here stating that the Mark Clarke scandal is Westminster bubble stuff.
Really? Who?
Most of the comments have been that (if true) its disgraceful - and that its been the 'right wing press' (Sun & Mail) making most of the running - and would have got much greater coverage but for Seamus Milne's brilliant media operation....
I am not everyone else . We need some reality in politics before we have no freedom left -- I do not agree with much that Corbyn says but I will defend his right to say it. Most politicians say what people want to hear - he says what he believes !
I believe there were some on here stating that the Mark Clarke scandal is Westminster bubble stuff.
Really? Who?
Most of the comments have been that (if true) its disgraceful - and that its been the 'right wing press' (Sun & Mail) making most of the running - and would have got much greater coverage but for Seamus Milne's brilliant media operation....
The Grant Shapps resignation article contains the comment I made reference to.
There may be a huge meltdown of the Labour vote taking place in OW&R but there is no reason to suppose that any substantial part of it is switching to UKIP. UKIP only got 8k in the GE so even if the Labour vote drops from 23k to 6k, Labour should be safe.
And here in crystal clear details is why you are completely wrong.
Rape is not about the subjugation of men over women.
Rape is a crime of one INDIVIDUAL exerting power over another INDIVIDUAL. The fact that a large minority of victims are male changes your identity politics from naive to outright harmful.
I find it very interesting that you did not address my first point.
I also don't agree that I am wrong - I provided a historical context as to why rape is seen as a gendered issue, and that is correct. Issues can be multi-faceted. Certainly, in many cases of male-on-male rape, for instance part of the power dynamics include 'emasculation' - this contributes to the shame, and humiliation many male victims of rape feel, and why many do come forward. Why do they feel 'emasculated'? Because the subjugation of the male in this instance is like putting them in the 'feminine' role, which traditionally has been seen as one of passivity, and inferiority.
From your post it looks like seeing anything as sexist or racist you see as 'identity politics' tbh.
What about female-on-male rape? There have been some disturbing cases recently where courts have seen it as a lesser offence than male-on-female rape.
And don't even get me started on domestic violence.
And here in crystal clear details is why you are completely wrong.
Rape is not about the subjugation of men over women.
Rape is a crime of one INDIVIDUAL exerting power over another INDIVIDUAL. The fact that a large minority of victims are male changes your identity politics from naive to outright harmful.
I find it very interesting that you did not address my first point.
I also don't agree that I am wrong - I provided a historical context as to why rape is seen as a gendered issue, and that is correct. Issues can be multi-faceted. Certainly, in many cases of male-on-male rape, for instance part of the power dynamics include 'emasculation' - this contributes to the shame, and humiliation many male victims of rape feel, and why many do come forward. Why do they feel 'emasculated'? Because the subjugation of the male in this instance is like putting them in the 'feminine' role, which traditionally has been seen as one of passivity, and inferiority.
From your post it looks like seeing anything as sexist or racist you see as 'identity politics' tbh.
What about female-on-male rape? There have been some disturbing cases recently where courts have seen it as a lesser offence than male-on-female rape.
And don't even get me started on domestic violence.
Before I go to bed, I'll reply to you.
The only time I've heard of female-on-male rape is cases where the guy is underage (so although it's not 'forced' rape it's what in the US would be called statutory rape- rape because those under 16 can't consent). Although even there, I think there are elements of gender politics involved - for example, because they are teenage boys, rather than teenage girls society does not stereotypically see them as victims (especially if the rapist is an attractive female). A lot of that is down to how we tend to view females as vulnerable, as victims, and as passive as opposed to men. I think it's these preconceptions regarding gender (gender roles, if you like) that stop many courts from taking female on male rape seriously. Likewise, with domestic violence.
It's one of the key reasons, IMO why we need to get rid of gender roles.
most of them moderate enough to receive backing from the CIA
"Many of the groups who fall within both these categories are armed factions the Islamist-averse United States’ CIA has already ‘vetted’ and assessed as ‘moderate’ enough to receive lethal assistance."
which is very reassuring
Hmm...CIA doesn't exactly have a great record when it comes this. I watched a report on VICE where they were on the front line with the Free Syrian Army in the South and they weren't exactly types I fancy having come over for dinner.
Do you fancy having dinner with IS? With Assad?
I suspect that even if the FSA win they may be complete ****s
I know IS are complete ****s. I knoe Assad is a complete ****.
Logically therefore I'd rather go with the devil I don't know and at least give the FSA a chance.
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It's admirably deadpan and I can't tell!
probably down to 69940 now
I also don't agree that I am wrong - I provided a historical context as to why rape is seen as a gendered issue, and that is correct. Issues can be multi-faceted. Certainly, in many cases of male-on-male rape, for instance part of the power dynamics include 'emasculation' - this contributes to the shame, and humiliation many male victims of rape feel, and why many do come forward. Why do they feel 'emasculated'? Because the subjugation of the male in this instance is like putting them in the 'feminine' role, which traditionally has been seen as one of passivity, and inferiority.
From your post it looks like seeing anything as sexist or racist you see as 'identity politics' tbh.
Why are you so keen to support him?
A bit like Corbyn is finding out, the world does not revolve around his principles. In fact, events can make a mockery of them.
If it is true, then he should leave and start his own socialist party with the rag bag of really motivated members (who only seem to make a difference on social medja) and the likes of McDonnell and Abbot. I'm sure they could find another to make it a gang of four.
And then the moderate, centrist party that the 8m people voted for in May 2015 could have some proper representation.
Although at some point soon, they may be pretty much one and the same....
They're being honest to the party in which they stood for election in May 2015. And by extension, honest to their voters.
Corbo is the serial rebel. It is bizarre, frankly, that he didn't leave years ago.
Front page of the Mail has them calling for Cameron to sack his best friend Lord Feldman.
https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/671088926149492736
I'm suggesting that you use the tools the site provides to communicate in the best way possible.
Everyone else seems to manage.
Net approve RAF airstrikes in Syria:
All: +49
Con: +62
Lab: +26
Trust to make right decision on Syria - OA (own party) Net:
Cameron: +4 (+70)
Corbyn: -47 (-6)
Putin: -47 (NA)
Net, Labour voters are in favour of bombing Syria by a margin of 2:1 - and overall, voters trust a foreign head of state - Putin on Syria as much as they trust Corbyn.....even Labour voters don't trust Corbyn.....not bad for a couple of months in the job!
Most of the comments have been that (if true) its disgraceful - and that its been the 'right wing press' (Sun & Mail) making most of the running - and would have got much greater coverage but for Seamus Milne's brilliant media operation....
And don't even get me started on domestic violence.
The only time I've heard of female-on-male rape is cases where the guy is underage (so although it's not 'forced' rape it's what in the US would be called statutory rape- rape because those under 16 can't consent). Although even there, I think there are elements of gender politics involved - for example, because they are teenage boys, rather than teenage girls society does not stereotypically see them as victims (especially if the rapist is an attractive female). A lot of that is down to how we tend to view females as vulnerable, as victims, and as passive as opposed to men. I think it's these preconceptions regarding gender (gender roles, if you like) that stop many courts from taking female on male rape seriously. Likewise, with domestic violence.
It's one of the key reasons, IMO why we need to get rid of gender roles.
I suspect that even if the FSA win they may be complete ****s
I know IS are complete ****s. I knoe Assad is a complete ****.
Logically therefore I'd rather go with the devil I don't know and at least give the FSA a chance.