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Darned, I'm good.
On-topic: it'll be interesting to see how many gaffes Labour can rack up before Thursday.
There is always a small possibility that some of the good people of Oldham West and Royton will be voting for a Labour party sans leader.
Edit: blast! Antifrank beat me to it. Still Champions League though!
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Mike K..ISIS are renowned for their entertainment industry..lots of vids showing the very latest rapes of kids, hangings, beheadings, stonings, burning people alive, the comic relief comes in the sharp short pistol shot to the back of the head..apparently they cant get enough of .
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I know all that; but perhaps you should convince @Omnium of these facts.
The comments from Corbynistas under her tweets are most miffed = everyone loves us and Jezza!!
I expect not to collect.
"On their turf?" Well it would depend under what auspices you were there.
Depends which bit of 'their turf' too.
I know it seems incredible, but these people are not barbarians. They just act like it.
Jim Waterson ✔ @jimwaterson
@callummay @PickardJE Sir Peter Tapsell to spend his retirement indulging his longstanding passion for Napalm Death.
If the general election had taken a different turn he could have been the UK’s foreign secretary. Instead, he was one of the 40 Labour MPs swept away by the Scottish National party in May.
Now, Douglas Alexander is poised to take up a very different role: advising Bono from U2, one of the world’s best known rock stars.
http://on.ft.com/1Q6DWxU
Jim Pickard @PickardJE 1m1 minute ago
Douglas Alexander to get six-figure salary working for Bono https://next.ft.com/content/6babdf24-96b7-11e5-95c7-d47aa298f769 … FT
Lab winning margin
0-5 3/1
5-10 7/4
10-15 4/1
15-20 18/1
20-25 33/1
25+ 40/1
Lab Lose 5/2
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-34956825
What I find disturbing is the notion that mankind could stop any World Climate Change. Where do people get the hubris from, that they could stop the sun in its cycle, or the world change it's axis; even a fraction.
Suppose the it was global cooling that was happening instead of global warming, what do these loons, scientists as well as lay-people expect man to do about it? No wonder that Militant Jihadist Islam is having such an easy ride in the so called West, whose brains have curdled.
However, there will be some who are, for a better word, barbarians. If they were not before doing, or watching, some of the acts ISIS are famed for, they might be afterwards.
And as you are 'negotiating', you would have to wonder what sort of person you are dealing with. Unlike in most businesses, getting it wrong would mean more than the loss of a contract or your job.
Then there is the next question: what do you negotiate with? What can we offer them, and they offer us, which can be used as a basis for any negotiation?
Bbc news
http://imgur.com/Sw2mVZc
I'm not prepared to back UKIP below 3/1.
Jamie Vardy tgs looking good! I also have £1 ew at 3000/1 from August on Leicester topping the League.
Defeating ISIS from the air isn't feasible, we'll need local allies to complete the job. One of our new "allies" - Jaysh Al-Islam:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaysh_al-Islam
As far as I can tell this bunch appear to be just as bad as ISIS, their only redeeming feature is they're on our side (for now). Some recent coverage:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3145562/Rival-Syrian-terror-group-turns-tables-ISIS-fighters-releasing-slick-execution-video-executing-jihadis-dressed-orange-jumpsuits.html
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2015/11/01/Monitor-Syria-rebels-using-caged-captives-as-human-shields-.html
https://twitter.com/IsraelNewsNow/status/671041762597740546
ISIS actually fit in with the classic barbarian type - new religion/variant/ideology, come in slaughter, rape and pillage.
Backed Vardy for PFA player of the year at 12/1 too.. seemed a nice price as he was 3/1 at the time for the boot
A tenner at 4/1 Lab 10-15 you have
Incredibly every single side in the civil war has God on their side. He must be quite a guy.
The Labour canvasser is a brave girl – hope she doesn’t receive the full wrath of Momentum..!
She's very brave
Lab MPs minus (x) vs UKIP for after the next GE.
She was a Fandy iirc
*apart from PB
You mean THE Abby Tomlinson?
THIS Abby Tomlinson?
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/may/11/milifan-prime-minister-ed-miliband
Still gives Lab 140 seats and UKIP 20 seats.
As for the whole universities/Corbyn/left-wing discussion in the previous thread, the most balanced opinions, tend to be somewhere in the centre as opposed to the right of British politics. Corbyn is a disaster, but Cameron, Osborne, and the Conservative Party aren't absolutely amazing either. In fact, looking at this whole Clarke scandal, there is something rather dark and disturbing at the heart of the Conservative Party.
I've got an Andy is crap thread coming up next weekend (for old times sake)
UKIP came within 600 or so votes at Heywood & Middleton in 2014, not a million miles away from Oldham.
I don't expect Labour to break into double figures in their % lead though turnout may be up on that 25% (the weather forecast for Thursday at the moment is calm and cold). 1500 tops.
Frankly, Assad is looking a sensible moderate next to that bunch.
But no one seems to mention this much...
It's like having a disease and eliminating one of the causes rather than trying to cure it, like a lung cancer sufferer giving up smoking but not treating the cancer
The scandal is not in having such people, for they can rarely be detected beforehand; it is in the way you mishandle allegations. And Labour or the Lib Dems don't have an exemplary record in that either.
It's made worse by the fact that political parties rely on volunteers, who are hard to vet and hard to keep motivated. If you get a keen one, it can be hard to control them fully as they know they are unpaid, and yet they can be incredibly productive.
But in this case, giving Clarke a second chance seems to have been a fairly disastrous decision.
There need to be some dawn raids here though, and some new treason legislation.
For people like me who love and have a deep knowledge of history, this is a difficult time.
I'm scared that someone might propose Guy Mollet's suggestion to unite Le Royaume-Uni with France again.
It's almost worse that Farage does mention it, as other parties would rather carry on ignoring the massive problem than be seen agreeing with him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OW_zi8n4HDQ
My gut feeling is that this could go to UKIP.
Combination of northern constituency in an area with a track record of difficult race relations, unmotivated Labour voters, terribly unpopular leader and held the day after a parly decision to extend hostilities that said leader manages to isolate himself with....
Tissue Price said it could be like Scotland all over again for Labour.
I made Labour 1/50 when the by election was announced, couldn't see how UKIP could possibly win
The Jihadis return here as 5th columnists. It should be a one way journey for them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spKqw5uvwIc
UKIP need to start managing expectations. Achieving a 12% swing would be a stonking result but right now it would probably be seen as disappointing, given how expectations have been built up.
Guy Mollet was the French PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6261885.stm
Turkey will receive €3bn (£2.1bn) and political concessions in return for clamping down on its borders and keeping refugees in the country.
Talks on Turkey's accession to the European Union will also be revived.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34957830
Do we trust the Turkish to do as they say? Would this be the same Turkey who waved through loads of would be Jahadists on their way to Syria?
Unison has now stuck their heads up and said Corbyn is not going anywhere. Quite a number of MPs are sponsored by Unison of course and would they dare to go against the sponsors? Based on the present situation even if Labour should lose the seat then I cannot see at this point this would hasten the departure of the present Leader.
It really is a dire position for a moderate to be in to be honest. The only way back is likely to be the formation of an entirely new centre left party more aligned with LibDems.
There will always be an excuse, be it the voters, the media or the Tories.
Perhaps a Scottish indy thread would be a fair substitute...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/12023669/Activist-group-linked-to-Jeremy-Corbyn-has-accounts-closed-amid-fears-it-may-be-funding-terrorism.html
Cue the screaming on twitter...