Edited extra bit: Mr. L, if Corbyn goes on Defence a couple of days after saying he opposes shoot to kill should we suffer a Mumbai/Paris style attack he'll get bloody slaughtered, and rightly so.
You'd think so but he might ask the PM to confirm that, with the obvious exception of an immediate threat to life, there is no shoot to kill policy on British streets.
What if Corbyn starts with "Mary from Sandhurst wants to know why the army troop numbers were cut from 120,000 to 84,000 ? She further adds that her husband received his P45 two days after he returned from Afghanistan"
There is nothing he can say to discomfit Cameron and the Tories. His friends are apologists for mass slaughter in Paris, London and anywhere else anti-Western terrorists choose to murder.
This is what Nick and his mates voted to associate Labour with when they voted for Corbyn.
This is why I will never vote Labour while Corbyn and his crew run Labour. And it's why millions of others won't consider it either.
I hope and pray Labour loses in Oldham. Constant and humiliating defeat is what it needs and deserves until members develop the intelligence to see what they are doing to a party they profess to care about. They have abandoned the British mainstream. They are contemptible.
I'm glad you've come out. When are you going to join the Tories?
If you missed the Nick Cohen piece, well worth 5 mins of your time - this point made me stop and think.
According to my colleague Shiraz Maher, there are now more British Muslims fighting for Islamic State than serving in the British Army. According to the government's Prevent programme, more than 30 per cent of people convicted for al-Qaeda-associated terrorist offences in the UK between 1999 and 2009 attended university or a higher education institution.
Mr. 63, a half hour video won't get many views. Don't suppose there's a condensed version?
I agree entirely on Defence spending (all last Parliament I said it should've been ring-fenced). The problem is the choice is between a disappointing approach which should be reversed immediately, and a totally ****ing insane approach which cannot be allowed.
Miss Plato, no wonder they keep getting attacked by dinosaurs.
Mr. L, obvious exception? Can't be that obvious as Corbyn never raised it during his interview, he just said he opposes shoot to kill.
"Benn is also playing a game. Those who think he is not interested in the top job must think again. Benn is almost inviting to be sacked. "
It doesn't really matter. Those like you and me who wished Corbyn well and who didn't see any reason why a real left winger or even a pacifist couldn't succeed have been proved wrong.
Benn saying "I can't answer for Jeremy." is not a leadership challenge as much as a statement of the obvious. If Jeremy's policies and those of his party coincide it's a fluke so what could Benn say?
This is an experiment that has failed. I can't see him being leader for very much longer though how this is going to be engineered I have no idea.
I told them not to do it. They weren't so much stirring the hornets' nest they were more sticking their todgers in and trying to dry hump the hornets' nest.
It is not just what he says, but the way he says it.
I have a feeling we could have a new leader by February with a splinter leaving the Labour Party.
Let us hope and pray that is the case. The country needs a credible opposition. The Tories do not deserve the free ride Corbyn Labour automatically delivers them.
Mr. 63, a half hour video won't get many views. Don't suppose there's a condensed version?
I agree entirely on Defence spending (all last Parliament I said it should've been ring-fenced). The problem is the choice is between a disappointing approach which should be reversed immediately, and a totally ****ing insane approach which cannot be allowed.
Miss Plato, no wonder they keep getting attacked by dinosaurs.
Mr. L, obvious exception? Can't be that obvious as Corbyn never raised it during his interview, he just said he opposes shoot to kill.
Fair point Mr Dancer, 30 mins is a bit long. I've a nagging feeling that even if it was 3 minutes few would watch it, people don't like confronting themselves.
I'll continue to be a thorn in the side of the obsequious tories and point how ineffective Cameron is, despite their attitude of:
I wasn't one as I wouldn't give the Labour party the time of day let alone £3 but I guess they should feel fine. It was the overwhelming majority of traditional Labour party members who elected Corbyn - the likes of NPXMP. And it is for them to deal with the consequences.
Prime Minister's Questions tomorrow are going to be a blood sport, surely?
Corbyn and co can bat back any direct attack as playing politics with a tragedy. Plenty will support that.
I agree - the tone for pbtories and i'd hope at PMQs is not glee in any form at Labour's position but a mix of sadness and fury.
It will be very straightforward for Cameron to point out that the first duty of the Government is to protect its own people. That there is a clear and present danger that what happened in Paris could happen in a UK city. That the existence of ISIL as a quasi state with a base from which to plan such attacks is a threat to the citizens of this country and that we will be backing the French resolution and that he will be recommending British participation in any approved action to the House. Will the LOTO support such a recommendation?
If the whole of the Parliamentary Labour Party meeting last night couldn't get an answer from Corbyn to these questions, don't expect any reply at PMQs.
Simon Danczuk apparently railed that Corbyn hadn't answered a single question put to him at the meeting. Labour MPs must be wondering whether Corbyn has total contempt for them, or is just too thick to answer.
Jeremy Corbyn is said to be a nice man. The other day he lingered on his own away from the cameras, to watch and pay respects to veterans marching through London. He is sincere and refuses to play the game. Who else would go on ITV, on one of its most popular shows, and discuss his hobby when it is looking at drain covers?
None of that changes the reality today. He has to go before he does any more damage. Labour MPs have a patriotic duty to remove him, or to start a new, sensible opposition party if the Unions and Corbynistas cannot be persuaded to see sense and persuade him to stand aside soon.
I suspect that their sympathies are still reasonably similar to Corbyn's.
The Green Party and the Labour Party under Corbynism are barely distinguishable - but Greens are running both of them.
During the GE campaign I spent a fair bit of time with a Green PPC, he was indistinguishable from Corbyn in virtually every respect, at some hustings he evoked roars of laughter with his crackpot statements. Obviously at that time nobody had heard of Corbyn, and nobody is laughing now.
My God the lag is cruel. It's 4.00 am in Washington DC and I've had three hours sleep. I want to go home :-(
And, you flew West. Try flying East.
I was in Japan this time last week!!
Worst jet-lag of my business life* was Tokyo. You have my sympathy.
(*New Zealand would probably have been worse, if I hadn't been out the front of the boat, whale-watching. Not really an option in Japan. You'd be in the way of the harpoon...)
I told them not to do it. They weren't so much stirring the hornets' nest they were more sticking their todgers in and trying to dry hump the hornets' nest.
Jeremy Corbyn today is as much of a leader of the Labour Party as Henry VI was of England in the 1450s.
I was thinking slightly earlier.
Jeremy Corbyn as Richard II and Hilary Benn as Henry Bolingbroke
You must be joking TSE. Richard II, was crafty and politician to his elbows; he was also personally brave and only his dalliance with a male lover and the way he treated the queen hastened his downfall. Henry Bolingbroke (later Henry IV) was a scrapper that revenged himself on Richard after being exiled from England.
Hilary Benn is a wimp and a winkle compared with the above. And there is nothing comparable to our Jezza.
Obviously but he does seem like a decent human being which makes you wonder why so many of the attacks are personal.
Many politicians are both decent and flawed. Corbyn wants a better, peaceful world - and that is decent and admirable. He is flawed because he is not willing to accept that wanting such a world does not count for much when you are facing a threat from people who feel otherwise.
I'd say the same about Cameron - he's a decent sort of chap, but also flawed in various ways.
I wasn't one as I wouldn't give the Labour party the time of day let alone £3 but I guess they should feel fine. It was the overwhelming majority of traditional Labour party members who elected Corbyn - the likes of NPXMP. And it is for them to deal with the consequences.
Indeed. This has precious little to do with the Tories.
This is about a set of motivated, further left voters signing up in an orchestrated campaign to re-take the Labour Party from the soft-left/centre.
These people still form the membership.
When we read Stop The War's 'reap the whirlwind' tweets, and the many social media observations that sympathise with the notions that it's all the west's fault and Tony Blair is to blame etc, then why should we imagine that there is any real change of heart within the new membership that installed Corbyn?
Corbyn and co had made all their comments about Hamas, Hezbollah, the IRA, 7/7 etc prior to being elected. Why would anyone expect them to talk differently now? Corbyn is simply being what he was before he was elected.
Corbyn and Bennett will write strongly worded letters to ISIS, and urge them to reduce their fossil fuel usage within the caliphate. Tea and biscuits on Jezza's allotment will shortly follow.
Jeremy Corbyn today is as much of a leader of the Labour Party as Henry VI was of England in the 1450s.
I was thinking slightly earlier.
Jeremy Corbyn as Richard II and Hilary Benn as Henry Bolingbroke
I do not see where this idea of Hilary Benn the political genius has come from. I suppose however Labour need someone who can just walk and chew gum at the same time right now.
What if Corbyn starts with "Mary from Sandhurst wants to know why the army troop numbers were cut from 120,000 to 84,000 ? She further adds that her husband received his P45 two days after he returned from Afghanistan"
Troll:
I know you are not very bright but you could - at least - check you starting numbers. Infact getting the current numbers may be a challenge according to your post.
Jeremy Corbyn today is as much of a leader of the Labour Party as Henry VI was of England in the 1450s.
I was thinking slightly earlier.
Jeremy Corbyn as Richard II and Hilary Benn as Henry Bolingbroke
I do not see where this idea of Hilary Benn the political genius has come from. I suppose however Labour need someone who can just walk and chew gum at the same time right now.
I do not see where this idea of Hilary Benn the political genius has come from. I suppose however Labour need someone who can just walk and chew gum at the same time right now.
It is not just what he says, but the way he says it.
I have a feeling we could have a new leader by February with a splinter leaving the Labour Party.
I'm sure that's a scenario plenty would like but how would it be funded?
Either way it's great news for us OUTERs, those who want IN are busy being sidetracked.
You know, I'm not so sure. I think that the events of Paris may allow European politicians to break away from the mindless mantras of the Eurocrats about the sacred nature of open borders to the European Project.
When this finally shakes out, it may be that some of the worst excesses of the Schengen system - and the fears of many about unrestricted access into Europe and the subsequent ability of those to travel unhindered within the EU's borders - will have fallen away. An EU that takes the security of its borders - and the borders of its member nations - more seriously will be a less troubling beast for many currently torn between STAY and LEAVE.
For everyone saying We Are Paris, colouring their Facebook avatar with the Tricoleur, singing the Marseillaise at the match tonight - they are not giving up on the EU just yet.
Jeremy Corbyn today is as much of a leader of the Labour Party as Henry VI was of England in the 1450s.
I was thinking slightly earlier.
Jeremy Corbyn as Richard II and Hilary Benn as Henry Bolingbroke
I do not see where this idea of Hilary Benn the political genius has come from. I suppose however Labour need someone who can just walk and chew gum at the same time right now.
It is not just what he says, but the way he says it.
I have a feeling we could have a new leader by February with a splinter leaving the Labour Party.
I'm sure that's a scenario plenty would like but how would it be funded?
Either way it's great news for us OUTERs, those who want IN are busy being sidetracked.
You know, I'm not so sure. I think that the events of Paris may allow European politicians to break away from the mindless mantras of the Eurocrats about the sacred nature of open borders to the European Project.
When this finally shakes out, it may be that some of the worst excesses of the Schengen system - and the fears of many about unrestricted access into Europe and the subsequent ability of those to travel unhindered within the EU's borders - will have fallen away. An EU that takes the security of its borders - and the borders of its member nations - more seriously will be a less troubling beast for many currently torn between STAY and LEAVE.
For everyone saying We Are Paris, colouring their Facebook avatar with the Tricoleur, singing the Marseillaise at the match tonight - they are not giving up on the EU just yet.
MM, Cameron's last resort of why we should stay was security, the events of friday ended that.
I've found the perfect solution for Corbyn and the PLP. The PLP sends Corbyn to discuss peace with ISIS in Syria.
Jez should head to Beirut, and deliver a speech about peace talks with IS to his ... friends in Hezbollah. I'm sure they'll see his point of view and welcome such a move.
If you missed the Nick Cohen piece, well worth 5 mins of your time - this point made me stop and think.
According to my colleague Shiraz Maher, there are now more British Muslims fighting for Islamic State than serving in the British Army. According to the government's Prevent programme, more than 30 per cent of people convicted for al-Qaeda-associated terrorist offences in the UK between 1999 and 2009 attended university or a higher education institution.
This would give a British born only strength to ISIS of over 83000. In reality the CIA say isis might have 30,000 fighters in total. Russia put it at double that. Bear in mind they conscript from the area they hold.
Cameron has found £2bn for some spooks, any idea which dept this will be taken from or is he just adding it to the deficit/debt?
Government contingency fund that is included in every budget.
Really - how big is this contingency fund?
"The total cash supply expenditure authorised for 2010-11 was £488,865,599,000 (2009-10; £518,147,119,000) and accordingly the maximum capital, excluding the permanent capital, available to the Contingencies Fund at any one time in 2011-12 was £9,775,811,980 (2010-11; £10,361,442,380)."
Sounds like Benn is basically saying we should just ignore what his leader says...
norman smith ✔ @BBCNormanS "It was right to take the action..no immediate prospect of him being arrested" - @hilarybennmp supports drone strike killing of Jihadi John
PoliticsHome ✔ @politicshome "There was no prospect of going into the middle of Raqqa to arrest him [Jihadi John]" says Hilary Benn #R4Today
norman smith ✔ @BBCNormanS "I am clear when immediate threat to life it is perfectly reasonable to use lethal force" - @hilarybennmp@BBCr4today
James Tapsfield @JamesTapsfield 1m1 minute ago Benn refuses to say he will stay on as shadow foreign sec if a Corbyn goes to Stop The War event next month #today
We'll need more popcorn folks.
Why would he resign if Corbyn attended a Stop the war event? If Corbyn's apparently well known and unchanging views on foreign affairs were a deal breaker surely Benn should not have joined his shadow cabinet in the first place. Corbyn is allowed to attend these things isn't he?
Perhaps because of the crass views expressed in the pulled stop the war opinion piece about Paris - which just so happened to have similar views to those that Jeremy was going to make in a speech.
Cameron was right he is a danger to our national security, even more than I could have thought.
vaguely on the thread topic: do any of the republican contenders believe a) evolution ; b) climate change? i.e. can any of them said to be "mainstream" at all?
Spreadsheet-Phil created a £14-billion 'contingency/whiteboard' fund a few years ago. "Protector" [10+ new Predators] are being bought (as well as those River-II boats to employ the folk in Clydeside).
£2-billion to SF over the next five-years (Blackhawks replacing Puma?) will take a chunk. MPA will be fun; not. And then we have to discuss FRES-UV (or whatever it is called now).
Good news is HMS Treasury taking control of "Successor": Biggest mistake was HMG giving control up in SDSR-2010. Hopefully the funding can be buried outside of Defence (and recorded as a political decision). Trident is cheap: Subs from Barrow-in-Furness are not (especially if we need to write-off Successor costs and redesign Astute+ with Core-3 nuclear propulsion).
EDIT: £14-billion 'white-board' occurs up-until 2023 (IIRC). Prior to English GDP growth and 2% commitment.
Mr. Dugarbandier, some of us have legitimate doubts about climate change, given the falsification of evidence and the repeatedly errant predictions of the theory's proponents.
Mr. Floater, some say Corbyn's been possessed by the Mr. Bean outfit he's wearing.
@alexmassie 25 secs26 seconds ago Incidentally, I hope those Tories who paid their £3 to vote for Corbyn are feeling pretty stupid now. They should be ashamed.
Prime Minister's Questions tomorrow are going to be a blood sport, surely?
Problem is Corbyn HAS to gow with ISIS or Syria, if he starts asking questions from Maureen in King's Lynn about the NHS he's a laughing stock.
There is scope for Corbyn there: welcome additional spending and contrast it with recent defence cuts; welcome Osborne's commitment to cybersecurity and so on but ask why Chancellor is usurping the appropriate Secretaries of State; perhaps even a question about the magic money tree.
The problem is he's already posted links for 'input' for PMQs, so is he going with other peoples questions, or ones of his own?
And Corbyn wanting more spending on defence?? Good luck with getting that one to fly.
The point is that Corbyn can make mischief by exploiting defence cuts under Cameron.
We have an affordable and realistic defence budget. Our defence budget is the 5th biggest in the world. America are planning some $75bn defence cuts. Labour massively overcommitted the defence budget with projects for which there was no money.
@ZoraSuleman: President Putin has offered a $50million reward to catch those who planted the bomb onboard the passenger jet which came down in Egypt
I presume in order to claim their reward said individuals must be taken alive, so like Jezza, Putin can have a stern chat with them?
They'll enjoy a comfortable life in a luxury appartment flatsharing with Snowden in Moscow. Putin will stick to the deal as he'll want to be seen as trustworthy to give info to in the future.
I expect Putin will make whoever squeals watch their co-conspirators be put to death though (If possible)
Mr. Dugarbandier, some of us have legitimate doubts about climate change, given the falsification of evidence and the repeatedly errant predictions of the theory's proponents.
nevertheless, it is still a mainstream political position to be in favour of ameliorating man made climate change across most of the world, in left wing and right wing govts alike (as far as I know).
How about evolution? Any of the reps. prepared to go with that?
It is not just what he says, but the way he says it.
I have a feeling we could have a new leader by February with a splinter leaving the Labour Party.
I'm sure that's a scenario plenty would like but how would it be funded?
Either way it's great news for us OUTERs, those who want IN are busy being sidetracked.
You know, I'm not so sure. I think that the events of Paris may allow European politicians to break away from the mindless mantras of the Eurocrats about the sacred nature of open borders to the European Project.
When this finally shakes out, it may be that some of the worst excesses of the Schengen system - and the fears of many about unrestricted access into Europe and the subsequent ability of those to travel unhindered within the EU's borders - will have fallen away. An EU that takes the security of its borders - and the borders of its member nations - more seriously will be a less troubling beast for many currently torn between STAY and LEAVE.
For everyone saying We Are Paris, colouring their Facebook avatar with the Tricoleur, singing the Marseillaise at the match tonight - they are not giving up on the EU just yet.
I think it's worth remembering that our experience with borders is very different to most Europeans. Even before Schengen, back in the early 1980s, when my parents would take us to Italy or wherever you could drive from the UK to Rome or Berlin, and the only passport check would be at Calais. (And sometimes there wasn't even one there.)
And I this was been the case for most of the post World War 2 period. This wasn't a push by Eurocrats: this was a recognition that many European countries are small and securing long borders without significant geographical obstacles is extremely expensive. (Essentially, it is always possible for a determined person to cross the border by digging a tunnel in a field. Border crossings, then, inconvenience the innocent, while doing little to prevent the criminal.)
And because there were no real restrictions on the flow of people between the various European states, was that the economies around the borders of Luxebourg, Belgium, France, Italy etc. are very integrated. You local supermarket could be supplied by a warehouse across the border.
For this reason, I would be extremely surprised if there was a wholesale reintroduction of border controls. It would be economically expensive, with little practical benefit.
I do not see where this idea of Hilary Benn the political genius has come from. I suppose however Labour need someone who can just walk and chew gum at the same time right now.
"When this finally shakes out, it may be that some of the worst excesses of the Schengen system - and the fears of many about unrestricted access into Europe and the subsequent ability of those to travel unhindered within the EU's borders - will have fallen away. An EU that takes the security of its borders - and the borders of its member nations - more seriously will be a less troubling beast for many currently torn between STAY and LEAVE."
I don't really understand this idea of secure borders from a security point of view. Possibly keeping track on people working illegally but anyone with a passport can get into (almost) any country in the world and stay for a reasonable length of time legally. Only very few passports won't get you into the UK for a visit and we're not members of Shengen
I think it's worth remembering that our experience with borders is very different to most Europeans. Even before Schengen, back in the early 1980s, when my parents would take us to Italy or wherever you could drive from the UK to Rome or Berlin, and the only passport check would be at Calais. (And sometimes there wasn't even one there.)
And I this was been the case for most of the post World War 2 period. This wasn't a push by Eurocrats: this was a recognition that many European countries are small and securing long borders without significant geographical obstacles is extremely expensive. (Essentially, it is always possible for a determined person to cross the border by digging a tunnel in a field. Border crossings, then, inconvenience the innocent, while doing little to prevent the criminal.)
And because there were no real restrictions on the flow of people between the various European states, was that the economies around the borders of Luxebourg, Belgium, France, Italy etc. are very integrated. You local supermarket could be supplied by a warehouse across the border.
For this reason, I would be extremely surprised if there was a wholesale reintroduction of border controls. It would be economically expensive, with little practical benefit.
Most British people don't appreciate how convenient border-free travel is when you are surrounded by land borders. I expect that what will eventually shake out of the current crisis is a careful manning of specific external borders to the EU/Schengen zone on a shared basis - the opposite of what many Leavers expect/hope for.
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This is the guy who's press sec basically thinks all members of the British army are war criminals.
I have a feeling we could have a new leader by February with a splinter leaving the Labour Party.
I suspect that their sympathies are still reasonably similar to Corbyn's.
The Green Party and the Labour Party under Corbynism are barely distinguishable - but Greens are running both of them.
I agree entirely on Defence spending (all last Parliament I said it should've been ring-fenced). The problem is the choice is between a disappointing approach which should be reversed immediately, and a totally ****ing insane approach which cannot be allowed.
Miss Plato, no wonder they keep getting attacked by dinosaurs.
Mr. L, obvious exception? Can't be that obvious as Corbyn never raised it during his interview, he just said he opposes shoot to kill.
Jeremy Corbyn as Richard II and Hilary Benn as Henry Bolingbroke
Either way it's great news for us OUTERs, those who want IN are busy being sidetracked.
Lay the loon, now it appears they are loonies.
"Benn is also playing a game. Those who think he is not interested in the top job must think again. Benn is almost inviting to be sacked. "
It doesn't really matter. Those like you and me who wished Corbyn well and who didn't see any reason why a real left winger or even a pacifist couldn't succeed have been proved wrong.
Benn saying "I can't answer for Jeremy." is not a leadership challenge as much as a statement of the obvious. If Jeremy's policies and those of his party coincide it's a fluke so what could Benn say?
This is an experiment that has failed. I can't see him being leader for very much longer though how this is going to be engineered I have no idea.
I'll continue to be a thorn in the side of the obsequious tories and point how ineffective Cameron is, despite their attitude of:
"We won the election, what do you know?"
The PLP will do nothing.
Again.
Simon Danczuk apparently railed that Corbyn hadn't answered a single question put to him at the meeting. Labour MPs must be wondering whether Corbyn has total contempt for them, or is just too thick to answer.
Would be messy and gift the tories the next election for sure.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11999927/Paris-France-terror-attacks-isil-Belgium-Molenbeek-suspects-Syria-Raqqa-bombing-live.html
(Scroll down to 03:55)
Then look us in the eye and repeat your pathetic and moronic statements from yesterday.
Thank you.
I wonder where that name came from?
https://twitter.com/Independent/status/666324179722117120
(*New Zealand would probably have been worse, if I hadn't been out the front of the boat, whale-watching. Not really an option in Japan. You'd be in the way of the harpoon...)
Sion Simon had thought Labour had already won the next election back in 2007.
"Corbyn is bad at politics."
Obviously but he does seem like a decent human being which makes you wonder why so many of the attacks are personal.
I forsaw a drip, drip, drip effect and Labour edging slowly towards electoral oblivion.
They seem to want to dive head first into that particular hole.
Hilary Benn is a wimp and a winkle compared with the above. And there is nothing comparable to our Jezza.
I'd say the same about Cameron - he's a decent sort of chap, but also flawed in various ways.
This is about a set of motivated, further left voters signing up in an orchestrated campaign to re-take the Labour Party from the soft-left/centre.
These people still form the membership.
When we read Stop The War's 'reap the whirlwind' tweets, and the many social media observations that sympathise with the notions that it's all the west's fault and Tony Blair is to blame etc, then why should we imagine that there is any real change of heart within the new membership that installed Corbyn?
Corbyn and co had made all their comments about Hamas, Hezbollah, the IRA, 7/7 etc prior to being elected. Why would anyone expect them to talk differently now? Corbyn is simply being what he was before he was elected.
I find McIRA positively repellent and dangerously smooth. Jezza is just a Grade A numpty in comparison.
Cameron has found £2bn for some spooks, any idea which dept this will be taken from or is he just adding it to the deficit/debt?
I know you are not very bright but you could - at least - check you starting numbers. Infact getting the current numbers may be a challenge according to your post.
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@iainmartin1: @DPJHodges Yes. Did strike me that he might have been about to resign live on air today.
Except, he didn't. And won't.
Apart from that...
When this finally shakes out, it may be that some of the worst excesses of the Schengen system - and the fears of many about unrestricted access into Europe and the subsequent ability of those to travel unhindered within the EU's borders - will have fallen away. An EU that takes the security of its borders - and the borders of its member nations - more seriously will be a less troubling beast for many currently torn between STAY and LEAVE.
For everyone saying We Are Paris, colouring their Facebook avatar with the Tricoleur, singing the Marseillaise at the match tonight - they are not giving up on the EU just yet.
almost as if she lives for a few positive responses to justify her pieces?
And the answer? With him all the way to inevitable crushing defeat. Again.
This would give a British born only strength to ISIS of over 83000. In reality the CIA say isis might have 30,000 fighters in total. Russia put it at double that. Bear in mind they conscript from the area they hold.
"Jeremy Corbyn as Richard II and Hilary Benn as Henry Bolingbroke "
Maybe. One of Shakespere's better double entendres
“I hate the murderer, love him murdered.”
UK inflation as measured by the Consumer Prices Index remained at -0.1% in October, figures show
Cameron was right he is a danger to our national security, even more than I could have thought.
Ironically it's an ex PLP man and then....??
£2-billion to SF over the next five-years (Blackhawks replacing Puma?) will take a chunk. MPA will be fun; not. And then we have to discuss FRES-UV (or whatever it is called now).
Good news is HMS Treasury taking control of "Successor": Biggest mistake was HMG giving control up in SDSR-2010. Hopefully the funding can be buried outside of Defence (and recorded as a political decision). Trident is cheap: Subs from Barrow-in-Furness are not (especially if we need to write-off Successor costs and redesign Astute+ with Core-3 nuclear propulsion).
EDIT: £14-billion 'white-board' occurs up-until 2023 (IIRC). Prior to English GDP growth and 2% commitment.
http://youtu.be/TwLp4GJeVl0
Mr. Floater, some say Corbyn's been possessed by the Mr. Bean outfit he's wearing.
Incidentally, I hope those Tories who paid their £3 to vote for Corbyn are feeling pretty stupid now. They should be ashamed.
Labour massively overcommitted the defence budget with projects for which there was no money.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/34836397/leeds-pub-garden-floods-men-go-for-pint-anyway
Quote:
""I stood and shouted at the water but it didn't seem to do much ..."
Cameron won't fund xyz for our safety
I expect Putin will make whoever squeals watch their co-conspirators be put to death though (If possible)
How about evolution? Any of the reps. prepared to go with that?
Mr. Eagles, when I were a lad, we had to swim t'pub. And that's if we were lucky!
Edited extra bit: we used to dream of having a kayak.
Nice try though.......
John (Redwood) won't be pleased to be a Labour Money Tree
And I this was been the case for most of the post World War 2 period. This wasn't a push by Eurocrats: this was a recognition that many European countries are small and securing long borders without significant geographical obstacles is extremely expensive. (Essentially, it is always possible for a determined person to cross the border by digging a tunnel in a field. Border crossings, then, inconvenience the innocent, while doing little to prevent the criminal.)
And because there were no real restrictions on the flow of people between the various European states, was that the economies around the borders of Luxebourg, Belgium, France, Italy etc. are very integrated. You local supermarket could be supplied by a warehouse across the border.
For this reason, I would be extremely surprised if there was a wholesale reintroduction of border controls. It would be economically expensive, with little practical benefit.
She viewed alcohol in the same way Lady Whiteadder did.
Lot of rotary activity in Sarf' Luhnduhn. Maybe expending the hours on those Pumas we need to replace...?
They'll keep fooling themselves that Tweeting is 'doing something', and all go down with the ship.
"When this finally shakes out, it may be that some of the worst excesses of the Schengen system - and the fears of many about unrestricted access into Europe and the subsequent ability of those to travel unhindered within the EU's borders - will have fallen away. An EU that takes the security of its borders - and the borders of its member nations - more seriously will be a less troubling beast for many currently torn between STAY and LEAVE."
I don't really understand this idea of secure borders from a security point of view. Possibly keeping track on people working illegally but anyone with a passport can get into (almost) any country in the world and stay for a reasonable length of time legally. Only very few passports won't get you into the UK for a visit and we're not members of Shengen