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  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    Imagine being a proud Frenchman, watching this. Talk about emasculation.

    https://vine.co/v/e9bAhbpP7jP

    True, but would you rather be consoling yourself on the streets of Paris tonight or celebrating on the streets of Wellington? (Nothing against New Zealand which is a great country but it is hardly the centre of the universe)
    Wellington is more exciting than Canberra!

    A bit like saying Birmingham is more lively than Leicester! Australia also has Sydney
    NZ also has Auckland and Christchurch.

    You have not lived until you have survived Saturday night in Westport!
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669

    Tim_B said:

    O/T I see a firm of lawyers is trying to encourage VW shareholders to join up to a class action to sue VW.

    So the shareholders will be sueing the company that they own and, if they are successful in the courts, they will pay themselves vast amounts of money (40bn Euros according to the Telegraph), less many millions in lawyers fees, of course, and probably destroy the company that they own.

    The Telegraph report this nonsense with a straight face.

    The farce of all this is if you are a VW owner that if you disable the emission controls, you will get better fuel mileage - it is saving you money!
    They are only disabled on a rolling road. If these engines were genuinely efficient then they might save you money. Logic suggests that it is because the engines can only meet the test by cheating and so they are less efficient in the real world than other companies engines.
    I think you have it the wrong way round - they only way they are ENABLED is during emissions testing.

    I live - unfortunately - in one of the only 14 counties in Georgia (read:around Atlanta) to require emissions testing. There is no rolling road. In Georgia the way it is done is that they attach a connector (looks like the old parallel port on a pc) to a connector under your dashboard and it interrogates the emissions control, talks to the state DMV computer, then they check your gas cap by attaching it to a suction cable, then you're done. 25 years ago they actually attached a tube to your exhaust and checked it. How other states do this I have no idea.

    It's not just VW - EVERY engine is more efficient with the emissions stuff disabled.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    O/T:

    The latest Jack the Ripper candidate: Michael Maybrick.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11899901/jack-the-ripper-mystery-solved.html
  • notmenotme Posts: 3,293
    HYUFD said:

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    JEO said:
    Although in the US the Democrats have tended to produce more surpluses than the S it is the right who are ideological for tax cuts
    American Den be very left wing on social matters though.
    Even Hillary only recently came out for gay marriage and has said 'abortion is a tragic choice.ump and Cruz has more in common with UKIP than the Tories
    They are all very keen on amnesty for illegal immigrants, support 'affirmative' discrimination and banning prayer in schools.
    Bar Theresa May Cameron's team has hardly minorities in his conference speech
    On immigration,hip to every illegal immigrant, if they could get away with it.
    The Democ
    it's never going to happen. Gun rights is not a litmus left/right demarcation. Sanders is from Vermont, a state full of hunters. OF COURSE he's pro gun rights.
    Actually scrap the "denominational" part of education. Democrats would hate academies or free schools, or anything that the NUT disagreed with. I agree, the right wing of the Democratic Party has just disappeared.
    The last time there e with much enthusiasm
    One needs to look at the position overall, and at State level. Most Tories don't favour amnesties for illegal immigrants, the Closed Shop, teacher unions, or affirmative action. Most Democrats do support these things.
    Judging by his conference speech Cameron does support affirmative action
    Does he? Where?
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    HYUFD said:

    Looking at the regional breakdown of tonight's Comres poll the Tories have a huge lead in the South (albeit this includes London), 45% to Labour's 27% and in the Midlands where they lead on 50% to Labour's 24%. In the North the Tories and Labour are tied on 40% each. Tories lead with ABs, C1s and C2s and the over 45s. Labour lead with DEs and 18 to 44 year olds

    6% of 2015 Labour voters would now vote Tory while only 2% of 2015 Tory voters would vote Labour. Labour have picked up 20% of LDs, but the Tories have also picked up 9% of LDs and 9% of UKIP voters
    http://comres.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/IoS-SM_Political-Poll_October-2015.pdf

    Labour are f****d if the Tories are ahead in the Midlands by 50% to 24%.
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    SeanT said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    Imagine being a proud Frenchman, watching this. Talk about emasculation.

    https://vine.co/v/e9bAhbpP7jP

    True, but would you rather be consoling yourself on the streets of Paris tonight or celebrating on the streets of Wellington? (Nothing against New Zealand which is a great country but it is hardly the centre of the universe)
    Wellington is more exciting than Canberra!

    A bit like saying Birmingham is more lively than Leicester! Australia also has Sydney
    NZ also has Auckland and Christchurch.

    You have not lived until you have survived Saturday night in Westport!
    A wet Sunday in Stornoway, the Isle of Lewis, has to be experienced at least once, in terms of human misery and depression.
    Weather in Glasgow can also provide that experience....
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    SeanT said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    Imagine being a proud Frenchman, watching this. Talk about emasculation.

    https://vine.co/v/e9bAhbpP7jP

    True, but would you rather be consoling yourself on the streets of Paris tonight or celebrating on the streets of Wellington? (Nothing against New Zealand which is a great country but it is hardly the centre of the universe)
    Wellington is more exciting than Canberra!

    A bit like saying Birmingham is more lively than Leicester! Australia also has Sydney
    NZ also has Auckland and Christchurch.

    You have not lived until you have survived Saturday night in Westport!
    A wet Sunday in Stornoway, the Isle of Lewis, has to be experienced at least once, in terms of human misery and depression.
    I tried to order food in a Westport hotel at 1830. The kitchen had closed. They looked at me as if I were bonkers to want to eat so late. Speights beer though so not too bad!
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,095
    SeanT said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    Imagine being a proud Frenchman, watching this. Talk about emasculation.

    https://vine.co/v/e9bAhbpP7jP

    True, but would you rather be consoling yourself on the streets of Paris tonight or celebrating on the streets of Wellington? (Nothing against New Zealand which is a great country but it is hardly the centre of the universe)
    Wellington is more exciting than Canberra!

    A bit like saying Birmingham is more lively than Leicester! Australia also has Sydney
    NZ also has Auckland and Christchurch.

    You have not lived until you have survived Saturday night in Westport!
    A wet Sunday in Stornoway, the Isle of Lewis, has to be experienced at least once, in terms of human misery and depression.
    I was in Stornoway in May and it was a beautifully clear sunny day with great views over the water from Lews Castle
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,095
    AndyJS said:

    HYUFD said:

    Looking at the regional breakdown of tonight's Comres poll the Tories have a huge lead in the South (albeit this includes London), 45% to Labour's 27% and in the Midlands where they lead on 50% to Labour's 24%. In the North the Tories and Labour are tied on 40% each. Tories lead with ABs, C1s and C2s and the over 45s. Labour lead with DEs and 18 to 44 year olds

    6% of 2015 Labour voters would now vote Tory while only 2% of 2015 Tory voters would vote Labour. Labour have picked up 20% of LDs, but the Tories have also picked up 9% of LDs and 9% of UKIP voters
    http://comres.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/IoS-SM_Political-Poll_October-2015.pdf

    Labour are f****d if the Tories are ahead in the Midlands by 50% to 24%.
    Well that was obvious ever since Corbyn was elected, the only regions he seems to have boosted Labour are London and Wales and as they have elections next year that may mean he survives until 2017 at least
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,095

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    Imagine being a proud Frenchman, watching this. Talk about emasculation.

    https://vine.co/v/e9bAhbpP7jP

    True, but would you rather be consoling yourself on the streets of Paris tonight or celebrating on the streets of Wellington? (Nothing against New Zealand which is a great country but it is hardly the centre of the universe)
    Wellington is more exciting than Canberra!

    A bit like saying Birmingham is more lively than Leicester! Australia also has Sydney
    NZ also has Auckland and Christchurch.

    You have not lived until you have survived Saturday night in Westport!
    Auckland and Christchurch are reasonable mid sized cities, neither are world cities like Sydney
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548

    SeanT said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    Imagine being a proud Frenchman, watching this. Talk about emasculation.

    https://vine.co/v/e9bAhbpP7jP

    True, but would you rather be consoling yourself on the streets of Paris tonight or celebrating on the streets of Wellington? (Nothing against New Zealand which is a great country but it is hardly the centre of the universe)
    Wellington is more exciting than Canberra!

    A bit like saying Birmingham is more lively than Leicester! Australia also has Sydney
    NZ also has Auckland and Christchurch.

    You have not lived until you have survived Saturday night in Westport!
    A wet Sunday in Stornoway, the Isle of Lewis, has to be experienced at least once, in terms of human misery and depression.
    I tried to order food in a Westport hotel at 1830. The kitchen had closed. They looked at me as if I were bonkers to want to eat so late. Speights beer though so not too bad!
    Mind you, a friend survived 3 months in Omaru. The highlight of the town is a statue of a lamb (the first shipload of NZ Lamb exported to the UK came from Omaru). She thought she had moved to heaven when she transferred to Christchurch!
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,095
    SeanT said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    SeanT said:

    Tim_B said:

    Sean_F said:

    HYUFD said:

    JEO said:

    HYUFD said:

    JEO said:

    HYUFD said:

    JEO said:
    who are ideological for tax cuts
    American Democrats seem pretty centrist on economic policy and generally run from the word socialism. They can be very left wing on social matters though.
    han the Tories
    They are all very keen on amnesty for illegal immigrants, support 'affirmative' discrimination and banning prayer in schools.
    On immigration, trade union rights, affirmative action, denominational education, the mid-point in the US Democrats is now well to the Left of the mid-point of the Conservatives. The Democrats would give citizenship to every illegal immigrant, if they could get away with it.
    's pro gun rights.
    The relative decline of America continues apace. Remember the hyperpower? The idea that, with the death of communism, America was a unique global hegemon that might never be surpassed? That was just 15 years ago.

    Now China has a larger economy, by PPP.

    15 years.

    A decade is a long time in geopolitics.




    A hegemon with 5% of the world's populativer.
    You

    http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/10/15/uk-china-richlist-idUKKCN0S914W20151015
    China has the world's largest population, 3 times that of the US, so it ought to be a surprise China e
    Where
    America does not *lead world affairs* in any meaningful sense, not any more.

    Arguably, the leader in world affairs is, by definition, the most important nation in world trade, as that country has a more direct economic influence on its fellow trading nations. And that country, already, is China - it overtook America in 2013.

    The gap will only grow.



    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-02-09/china-passes-u-s-to-become-the-world-s-biggest-trading-nation
    Yes but that goes back to my main argument that China has the world's largest population so should be the world's leading trading nation. In terms of the situation in the Middle East and other troublespots China is notable by its absence, indeed Russia seems to pose more of a threat to US hegemony at the moment than the Chinese in foreign affairs
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    edited October 2015
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    Imagine being a proud Frenchman, watching this. Talk about emasculation.

    https://vine.co/v/e9bAhbpP7jP

    True, but would you rather be consoling yourself on the streets of Paris tonight or celebrating on the streets of Wellington? (Nothing against New Zealand which is a great country but it is hardly the centre of the universe)
    Wellington is more exciting than Canberra!

    A bit like saying Birmingham is more lively than Leicester! Australia also has Sydney
    NZ also has Auckland and Christchurch.

    You have not lived until you have survived Saturday night in Westport!
    Auckland and Christchurch are reasonable mid sized cities, neither are world cities like Sydney
    Auckland pretends to be Sydney, which in turn pretends to be LA. Christchurch has a bizzare utophian spirit of its own. A great place to live, and best climate of any place that I have been, though Nairobi is pretty good too.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,095
    SeanT said:

    Tim_B said:

    SeanT said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    Imagine being a proud Frenchman, watching this. Talk about emasculation.

    https://vine.co/v/e9bAhbpP7jP

    True, but would you rather be consoling yourself on the streets of Paris tonight or celebrating on the streets of Wellington? (Nothing against New Zealand which is a great country but it is hardly the centre of the universe)
    Wellington is more exciting than Canberra!

    A bit like saying Birmingham is more lively than Leicester! Australia also has Sydney
    NZ also has Auckland and Christchurch.

    You have not lived until you have survived Saturday night in Westport!
    A wet Sunday in Stornoway, the Isle of Lewis, has to be experienced at least once, in terms of human misery and depression.
    Weather in Glasgow can also provide that experience....
    Glasgow is pretty special on a wintry day in early January, I admit. (Indeed I call a cold wet Glasgow "Satanic" in the ICE TWINS).

    But Glasgow is still Glasgow. It has a faded but discernible macho spirit (reminds me of Chicago, actually) and it has some fabulous Victorian architecture.

    Stornoway has none of this. And it is surrounded by bogs.
    It has the Western Isles, one of the most beautiful parts of the UK and the area around the harbour and castle is quite picturesque
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,003
    edited October 2015
    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    Imagine being a proud Frenchman, watching this. Talk about emasculation.

    https://vine.co/v/e9bAhbpP7jP

    True, but would you rather be consoling yourself on the streets of Paris tonight or celebrating on the streets of Wellington? (Nothing against New Zealand which is a great country but it is hardly the centre of the universe)
    Wellington is more exciting than Canberra!

    A bit like saying Birmingham is more lively than Leicester! Australia also has Sydney
    NZ also has Auckland and Christchurch.

    You have not lived until you have survived Saturday night in Westport!
    A wet Sunday in Stornoway, the Isle of Lewis, has to be experienced at least once, in terms of human misery and depression.
    I was in Stornoway in May and it was a beautifully clear sunny day with great views over the water from Lews Castle
    Nothing quite compares to the Fin del Mundo feel of Invercargill, at the south tip of South Island..... Although Ushuaia at the bottom of Patagonia does actually sell itself as Fin del Mundo.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    SeanT said:

    SeanT said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    Imagine being a proud Frenchman, watching this. Talk about emasculation.

    https://vine.co/v/e9bAhbpP7jP

    True, but would you rather be consoling yourself on the streets of Paris tonight or celebrating on the streets of Wellington? (Nothing against New Zealand which is a great country but it is hardly the centre of the universe)
    Wellington is more exciting than Canberra!

    A bit like saying Birmingham is more lively than Leicester! Australia also has Sydney
    NZ also has Auckland and Christchurch.

    You have not lived until you have survived Saturday night in Westport!
    A wet Sunday in Stornoway, the Isle of Lewis, has to be experienced at least once, in terms of human misery and depression.
    I tried to order food in a Westport hotel at 1830. The kitchen had closed. They looked at me as if I were bonkers to want to eat so late. Speights beer though so not too bad!
    Mind you, a friend survived 3 months in Omaru. The highlight of the town is a statue of a lamb (the first shipload of NZ Lamb exported to the UK came from Omaru). She thought she had moved to heaven when she transferred to Christchurch!
    Australia has some fugly and depressing towns.

    Let me introduce you to Tully, Queensland, which I visited last year.

    It has the most rainful of anywhere in Oz, a fact celebrated with a huge statue of a wellington boot.

    http://www.australianexplorer.com/photographs/queensland/1080501505429-7-05_tully_golden_gumboot.jpg

    Otherwise the elegant townscape is enlivened by aboriginal drug taking and weekends of wife beating.

    http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2012/07/25/1226435/158216-120726-tully.jpg

    http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3414/4598448914_cfe4b74200.jpg
    I had a weekend in Dubbo once, visiting a cousin of my father who had been there 20 years. How the years must have flown by!:

    http://dubbo.com.au/VisitDubbo/Attractions.html

  • SeanT said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    Tim_B said:

    SeanT said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    Imagine being a proud Frenchman, watching this. Talk about emasculation.

    https://vine.co/v/e9bAhbpP7jP

    True, but would you rather be consoling yourself on the streets of Paris tonight or celebrating on the streets of Wellington? (Nothing against New Zealand which is a great country but it is hardly the centre of the universe)
    Wellington is more exciting than Canberra!

    A bit like saying Birmingham is more lively than Leicester! Australia also has Sydney
    NZ also has Auckland and Christchurch.

    You have not lived until you have survived Saturday night in Westport!
    A wet Sunday in Stornoway, the Isle of Lewis, has to be experienced at least once, in terms of human misery and depression.
    Weather in Glasgow can also provide that experience....
    Glasgow is pretty special on a wintry day in early January, I admit. (Indeed I call a cold wet Glasgow "Satanic" in the ICE TWINS).

    But Glasgow is still Glasgow. It has a faded but discernible macho spirit (reminds me of Chicago, actually) and it has some fabulous Victorian architecture.

    Stornoway has none of this. And it is surrounded by bogs.
    It has the Western Isles, one of the most beautiful parts of the UK and the area around the harbour and castle is quite picturesque
    I'd go further, I'd say that, on a good day, parts of Harris are some of the most beautiful places on earth. Horgabost beach!

    Just an hour south of Stornoway.

    http://imgs.photo4me.com/8928/296081_m.jpeg

    The Hebrides are manic depressive.
    Nothing beats Cornwall, the further West the better.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,003

    SeanT said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    Tim_B said:

    SeanT said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    Imagine being a proud Frenchman, watching this. Talk about emasculation.

    https://vine.co/v/e9bAhbpP7jP

    True, but would you rather be consoling yourself on the streets of Paris tonight or celebrating on the streets of Wellington? (Nothing against New Zealand which is a great country but it is hardly the centre of the universe)
    Wellington is more exciting than Canberra!

    A bit like saying Birmingham is more lively than Leicester! Australia also has Sydney
    NZ also has Auckland and Christchurch.

    You have not lived until you have survived Saturday night in Westport!
    A wet Sunday in Stornoway, the Isle of Lewis, has to be experienced at least once, in terms of human misery and depression.
    Weather in Glasgow can also provide that experience....
    Glasgow is pretty special on a wintry day in early January, I admit. (Indeed I call a cold wet Glasgow "Satanic" in the ICE TWINS).

    But Glasgow is still Glasgow. It has a faded but discernible macho spirit (reminds me of Chicago, actually) and it has some fabulous Victorian architecture.

    Stornoway has none of this. And it is surrounded by bogs.
    It has the Western Isles, one of the most beautiful parts of the UK and the area around the harbour and castle is quite picturesque
    I'd go further, I'd say that, on a good day, parts of Harris are some of the most beautiful places on earth. Horgabost beach!

    Just an hour south of Stornoway.

    http://imgs.photo4me.com/8928/296081_m.jpeg

    The Hebrides are manic depressive.
    Nothing beats Cornwall, the further West the better.
    As west as St. Agnes on Scilly?
  • flightpath01flightpath01 Posts: 4,903
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    Imagine being a proud Frenchman, watching this. Talk about emasculation.

    https://vine.co/v/e9bAhbpP7jP

    True, but would you rather be consoling yourself on the streets of Paris tonight or celebrating on the streets of Wellington? (Nothing against New Zealand which is a great country but it is hardly the centre of the universe)
    Wellington is more exciting than Canberra!

    A bit like saying Birmingham is more lively than Leicester! Australia also has Sydney
    NZ also has Auckland and Christchurch.

    You have not lived until you have survived Saturday night in Westport!
    Auckland and Christchurch are reasonable mid sized cities, neither are world cities like Sydney
    I learned to ski in the Wigan Alps. Wonderful climate at altitude.
  • SeanT said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    Tim_B said:

    SeanT said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    Imagine being a proud Frenchman, watching this. Talk about emasculation.

    https://vine.co/v/e9bAhbpP7jP

    True, but would you rather be consoling yourself on the streets of Paris tonight or celebrating on the streets of Wellington? (Nothing against New Zealand which is a great country but it is hardly the centre of the universe)
    Wellington is more exciting than Canberra!

    A bit like saying Birmingham is more lively than Leicester! Australia also has Sydney
    NZ also has Auckland and Christchurch.

    You have not lived until you have survived Saturday night in Westport!
    A wet Sunday in Stornoway, the Isle of Lewis, has to be experienced at least once, in terms of human misery and depression.
    Weather in Glasgow can also provide that experience....
    Glasgow is pretty special on a wintry day in early January, I admit. (Indeed I call a cold wet Glasgow "Satanic" in the ICE TWINS).

    But Glasgow is still Glasgow. It has a faded but discernible macho spirit (reminds me of Chicago, actually) and it has some fabulous Victorian architecture.

    Stornoway has none of this. And it is surrounded by bogs.
    It has the Western Isles, one of the most beautiful parts of the UK and the area around the harbour and castle is quite picturesque
    I'd go further, I'd say that, on a good day, parts of Harris are some of the most beautiful places on earth. Horgabost beach!

    Just an hour south of Stornoway.

    http://imgs.photo4me.com/8928/296081_m.jpeg

    The Hebrides are manic depressive.
    Nothing beats Cornwall, the further West the better.
    As west as St. Agnes on Scilly?
    Only been there once, a good few years ago.

    St. Agnes on the mainland is very nice.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,095
    SeanT said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    Tim_B said:

    SeanT said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    Imagine being a proud Frenchman, watching this. Talk about emasculation.

    https://vine.co/v/e9bAhbpP7jP

    True, but would you rather be consoling yourself on the streets of Paris tonight or celebrating on the streets of Wellington? (Nothing against New Zealand which is a great country but it is hardly the centre of the universe)
    Wellington is more exciting than Canberra!

    A bit like saying Birmingham is more lively than Leicester! Australia also has Sydney
    NZ also has Auckland and Christchurch.

    You have not lived until you have survived Saturday night in Westport!
    A wet Sunday in Stornoway, the Isle of Lewis, has to be experienced at least once, in terms of human misery and depression.
    Weather in Glasgow can also provide that experience....
    Glasgow is pretty special on a wintry day in early January, I admit. (Indeed I call a cold wet Glasgow "Satanic" in the ICE TWINS).

    But Glasgow is still Glasgow. It has a faded but discernible macho spirit (reminds me of Chicago, actually) and it has some fabulous Victorian architecture.

    Stornoway has none of this. And it is surrounded by bogs.
    It has the Western Isles, one of the most beautiful parts of the UK and the area around the harbour and castle is quite picturesque
    I'd go further, I'd say that, on a good day, parts of Harris are some of the most beautiful places on earth. Horgabost beach!

    Just an hour south of Stornoway.

    http://imgs.photo4me.com/8928/296081_m.jpeg

    The Hebrides are manic depressive.
    Indeed on a clear day heaven, on a wet and grey day hell
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,095

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    Imagine being a proud Frenchman, watching this. Talk about emasculation.

    https://vine.co/v/e9bAhbpP7jP

    True, but would you rather be consoling yourself on the streets of Paris tonight or celebrating on the streets of Wellington? (Nothing against New Zealand which is a great country but it is hardly the centre of the universe)
    Wellington is more exciting than Canberra!

    A bit like saying Birmingham is more lively than Leicester! Australia also has Sydney
    NZ also has Auckland and Christchurch.

    You have not lived until you have survived Saturday night in Westport!
    Auckland and Christchurch are reasonable mid sized cities, neither are world cities like Sydney
    Auckland pretends to be Sydney, which in turn pretends to be LA. Christchurch has a bizzare utophian spirit of its own. A great place to live, and best climate of any place that I have been, though Nairobi is pretty good too.
    As arguably London pretends to be New York though I would agree Christchurch seems unique
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,095

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    Imagine being a proud Frenchman, watching this. Talk about emasculation.

    https://vine.co/v/e9bAhbpP7jP

    True, but would you rather be consoling yourself on the streets of Paris tonight or celebrating on the streets of Wellington? (Nothing against New Zealand which is a great country but it is hardly the centre of the universe)
    Wellington is more exciting than Canberra!

    A bit like saying Birmingham is more lively than Leicester! Australia also has Sydney
    NZ also has Auckland and Christchurch.

    You have not lived until you have survived Saturday night in Westport!
    Auckland and Christchurch are reasonable mid sized cities, neither are world cities like Sydney
    I learned to ski in the Wigan Alps. Wonderful climate at altitude.
    Wigan, the new Gstaad
  • perdixperdix Posts: 1,806
    The Indy/Mirror Comres question about HS2 London to Birmingham is silly. Should have been "to the North".
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    Imagine being a proud Frenchman, watching this. Talk about emasculation.

    https://vine.co/v/e9bAhbpP7jP

    True, but would you rather be consoling yourself on the streets of Paris tonight or celebrating on the streets of Wellington? (Nothing against New Zealand which is a great country but it is hardly the centre of the universe)
    Wellington is more exciting than Canberra!

    A bit like saying Birmingham is more lively than Leicester! Australia also has Sydney
    NZ also has Auckland and Christchurch.

    You have not lived until you have survived Saturday night in Westport!
    Auckland and Christchurch are reasonable mid sized cities, neither are world cities like Sydney
    I learned to ski in the Wigan Alps. Wonderful climate at altitude.
    Wigan, the new Gstaad
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    Imagine being a proud Frenchman, watching this. Talk about emasculation.

    https://vine.co/v/e9bAhbpP7jP

    True, but would you rather be consoling yourself on the streets of Paris tonight or celebrating on the streets of Wellington? (Nothing against New Zealand which is a great country but it is hardly the centre of the universe)
    Wellington is more exciting than Canberra!

    A bit like saying Birmingham is more lively than Leicester! Australia also has Sydney
    NZ also has Auckland and Christchurch.

    You have not lived until you have survived Saturday night in Westport!
    Auckland and Christchurch are reasonable mid sized cities, neither are world cities like Sydney
    I learned to ski in the Wigan Alps. Wonderful climate at altitude.
    Wigan, the new Gstaad
    Is that the Wigan Alps in the Skelmersdale Mountains chain?
  • perdix said:

    The Indy/Mirror Comres question about HS2 London to Birmingham is silly. Should have been "to the North".

    Why? Birmingham isn't the North.
  • AndyJS said:
    I thought it was James Maybrick?
  • HYUFD said:

    AndyJS said:

    HYUFD said:

    Looking at the regional breakdown of tonight's Comres poll the Tories have a huge lead in the South (albeit this includes London), 45% to Labour's 27% and in the Midlands where they lead on 50% to Labour's 24%. In the North the Tories and Labour are tied on 40% each. Tories lead with ABs, C1s and C2s and the over 45s. Labour lead with DEs and 18 to 44 year olds

    6% of 2015 Labour voters would now vote Tory while only 2% of 2015 Tory voters would vote Labour. Labour have picked up 20% of LDs, but the Tories have also picked up 9% of LDs and 9% of UKIP voters
    http://comres.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/IoS-SM_Political-Poll_October-2015.pdf

    Labour are f****d if the Tories are ahead in the Midlands by 50% to 24%.
    Well that was obvious ever since Corbyn was elected, the only regions he seems to have boosted Labour are London and Wales and as they have elections next year that may mean he survives until 2017 at least
    As he won 59.5% versus 19.0% for his nearest rival he'll survive to 2017 anyway.

    After May 2017 the knives will come out, unless we're caught up in the Europe referendum at that time.
  • perdix said:

    The Indy/Mirror Comres question about HS2 London to Birmingham is silly. Should have been "to the North".

    Why? Birmingham isn't the North.
    Phase two of HS2 is to Manchester and Leeds.
  • HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    Imagine being a proud Frenchman, watching this. Talk about emasculation.

    https://vine.co/v/e9bAhbpP7jP

    True, but would you rather be consoling yourself on the streets of Paris tonight or celebrating on the streets of Wellington? (Nothing against New Zealand which is a great country but it is hardly the centre of the universe)
    Wellington is more exciting than Canberra!

    A bit like saying Birmingham is more lively than Leicester! Australia also has Sydney
    NZ also has Auckland and Christchurch.

    You have not lived until you have survived Saturday night in Westport!
    Auckland and Christchurch are reasonable mid sized cities, neither are world cities like Sydney
    I learned to ski in the Wigan Alps. Wonderful climate at altitude.
    Wigan, the new Gstaad
    I visited Wigan North Western station a couple of weeks back :)
  • perdix said:

    The Indy/Mirror Comres question about HS2 London to Birmingham is silly. Should have been "to the North".

    Why? Birmingham isn't the North.
    Phase two of HS2 is to Manchester and Leeds.
    So what? Phase one is to Birmingham and it is still planned rather than constructed. Construction isn't due to start to 2017, so why would only phase two be polled?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,095
    SeanT said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    Imagine being a proud Frenchman, watching this. Talk about emasculation.

    https://vine.co/v/e9bAhbpP7jP

    True, but would you rather be consoling yourself on the streets of Paris tonight or celebrating on the streets of Wellington? (Nothing against New Zealand which is a great country but it is hardly the centre of the universe)
    Wellington is more exciting than Canberra!

    A bit like saying Birmingham is more lively than Leicester! Australia also has Sydney
    NZ also has Auckland and Christchurch.

    You have not lived until you have survived Saturday night in Westport!
    Auckland and Christchurch are reasonable mid sized cities, neither are world cities like Sydney
    Auckland pretends to be Sydney, which in turn pretends to be LA. Christchurch has a bizzare utophian spirit of its own. A great place to live, and best climate of any place that I have been, though Nairobi is pretty good too.
    As arguably London pretends to be New York though I would agree Christchurch seems unique
    Piffle. London is London, it doesn't pretend to be anything: it copies bits of Paris, and Shanghai, and New York and LA - just as New York copies Hong Kong and Tokyo and LA and London (see their new big wheel, a direct attempt to match the success of the London Eye)

    Successful cities ape each other, but the very greatest cities are sui generis.

    Right now London is more important and puissant than New York, on many measures.

    http://www.theguardian.com/money/2015/oct/06/london-outstrips-new-york-to-top-global-prime-property-league

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-09-23/london-passes-new-york-as-top-financial-center-on-election-boost

    http://www.khaleejtimes.com/international/london-new-york-paris-are-worlds-most-powerful-cities
    Much of that is true and of course London is an older and more historic city than New York, but the rise of the London of 2015 compared to say the London of 1975 has been based on becoming a city more like Manhattan, London even has its own skyscrapers now, not least The Shard
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,095
    Tim_B said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    Imagine being a proud Frenchman, watching this. Talk about emasculation.

    https://vine.co/v/e9bAhbpP7jP

    True, but would you rather be consoling yourself on the streets of Paris tonight or celebrating on the streets of Wellington? (Nothing against New Zealand which is a great country but it is hardly the centre of the universe)
    Wellington is more exciting than Canberra!

    A bit like saying Birmingham is more lively than Leicester! Australia also has Sydney
    NZ also has Auckland and Christchurch.

    You have not lived until you have survived Saturday night in Westport!
    Auckland and Christchurch are reasonable mid sized cities, neither are world cities like Sydney
    I learned to ski in the Wigan Alps. Wonderful climate at altitude.
    Wigan, the new Gstaad
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    Imagine being a proud Frenchman, watching this. Talk about emasculation.

    https://vine.co/v/e9bAhbpP7jP

    True, but would you rather be consoling yourself on the streets of Paris tonight or celebrating on the streets of Wellington? (Nothing against New Zealand which is a great country but it is hardly the centre of the universe)
    Wellington is more exciting than Canberra!

    A bit like saying Birmingham is more lively than Leicester! Australia also has Sydney
    NZ also has Auckland and Christchurch.

    You have not lived until you have survived Saturday night in Westport!
    Auckland and Christchurch are reasonable mid sized cities, neither are world cities like Sydney
    I learned to ski in the Wigan Alps. Wonderful climate at altitude.
    Wigan, the new Gstaad
    Is that the Wigan Alps in the Skelmersdale Mountains chain?
    Apparently so
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,095
    edited October 2015

    HYUFD said:

    AndyJS said:

    HYUFD said:

    Looking at the regional breakdown of tonight's Comres poll the Tories have a huge lead in the South (albeit this includes London), 45% to Labour's 27% and in the Midlands where they lead on 50% to Labour's 24%. In the North the Tories and Labour are tied on 40% each. Tories lead with ABs, C1s and C2s and the over 45s. Labour lead with DEs and 18 to 44 year olds

    6% of 2015 Labour voters would now vote Tory while only 2% of 2015 Tory voters would vote Labour. Labour have picked up 20% of LDs, but the Tories have also picked up 9% of LDs and 9% of UKIP voters
    http://comres.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/IoS-SM_Political-Poll_October-2015.pdf

    Labour are f****d if the Tories are ahead in the Midlands by 50% to 24%.
    Well that was obvious ever since Corbyn was elected, the only regions he seems to have boosted Labour are London and Wales and as they have elections next year that may mean he survives until 2017 at least
    As he won 59.5% versus 19.0% for his nearest rival he'll survive to 2017 anyway.

    After May 2017 the knives will come out, unless we're caught up in the Europe referendum at that time.
    Indeed, of course IDS won 60% and survived two years too. EU ref could hasten his demise if he is seen as being apathetic about In and undermining the chances of a Yes vote as well as the threat of Labour coming behind UKIP in a by-election or two
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,095

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    Imagine being a proud Frenchman, watching this. Talk about emasculation.

    https://vine.co/v/e9bAhbpP7jP

    True, but would you rather be consoling yourself on the streets of Paris tonight or celebrating on the streets of Wellington? (Nothing against New Zealand which is a great country but it is hardly the centre of the universe)
    Wellington is more exciting than Canberra!

    A bit like saying Birmingham is more lively than Leicester! Australia also has Sydney
    NZ also has Auckland and Christchurch.

    You have not lived until you have survived Saturday night in Westport!
    Auckland and Christchurch are reasonable mid sized cities, neither are world cities like Sydney
    I learned to ski in the Wigan Alps. Wonderful climate at altitude.
    Wigan, the new Gstaad
    I visited Wigan North Western station a couple of weeks back :)
    An architectural gem I am sure
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,172
    edited October 2015

    perdix said:

    The Indy/Mirror Comres question about HS2 London to Birmingham is silly. Should have been "to the North".

    Why? Birmingham isn't the North.
    Phase two of HS2 is to Manchester and Leeds.
    So what? Phase one is to Birmingham and it is still planned rather than constructed. Construction isn't due to start to 2017, so why would only phase two be polled?
    Both phases were in the question: "Birmingham AND THE NORTH!"
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,172
    edited October 2015
    JEO said:
    "It's the woman who's entered, the woman who's violated!" - Heather Graham in "Bowfinger"
  • HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    Imagine being a proud Frenchman, watching this. Talk about emasculation.

    https://vine.co/v/e9bAhbpP7jP

    True, but would you rather be consoling yourself on the streets of Paris tonight or celebrating on the streets of Wellington? (Nothing against New Zealand which is a great country but it is hardly the centre of the universe)
    Wellington is more exciting than Canberra!

    A bit like saying Birmingham is more lively than Leicester! Australia also has Sydney
    NZ also has Auckland and Christchurch.

    You have not lived until you have survived Saturday night in Westport!
    Auckland and Christchurch are reasonable mid sized cities, neither are world cities like Sydney
    I learned to ski in the Wigan Alps. Wonderful climate at altitude.
    Wigan, the new Gstaad
    I visited Wigan North Western station a couple of weeks back :)
    An architectural gem I am sure
    Stoke and Nottingham were nicer :)
  • HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    Imagine being a proud Frenchman, watching this. Talk about emasculation.

    https://vine.co/v/e9bAhbpP7jP

    True, but would you rather be consoling yourself on the streets of Paris tonight or celebrating on the streets of Wellington? (Nothing against New Zealand which is a great country but it is hardly the centre of the universe)
    Wellington is more exciting than Canberra!

    A bit like saying Birmingham is more lively than Leicester! Australia also has Sydney
    NZ also has Auckland and Christchurch.

    You have not lived until you have survived Saturday night in Westport!
    Auckland and Christchurch are reasonable mid sized cities, neither are world cities like Sydney
    Auckland pretends to be Sydney, which in turn pretends to be LA. Christchurch has a bizzare utophian spirit of its own. A great place to live, and best climate of any place that I have been, though Nairobi is pretty good too.
    As arguably London pretends to be New York though I would agree Christchurch seems unique
    Piffle. London is London, it doesn't pretend to be anything: it copies bits of Paris, and Shanghai, and New York and LA - just as New York copies Hong Kong and Tokyo and LA and London (see their new big wheel, a direct attempt to match the success of the London Eye)

    Successful cities ape each other, but the very greatest cities are sui generis.

    Right now London is more important and puissant than New York, on many measures.

    http://www.theguardian.com/money/2015/oct/06/london-outstrips-new-york-to-top-global-prime-property-league

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-09-23/london-passes-new-york-as-top-financial-center-on-election-boost

    http://www.khaleejtimes.com/international/london-new-york-paris-are-worlds-most-powerful-cities
    Much of that is true and of course London is an older and more historic city than New York, but the rise of the London of 2015 compared to say the London of 1975 has been based on becoming a city more like Manhattan, London even has its own skyscrapers now, not least The Shard
    London isn't the only city with skyscrapers!
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited October 2015
    "One final look at the numbers with 308's Éric Grenier with the CBC Election Pollcast":

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-election-2015-grenier-pollcast-oct17-1.3276489
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395

    AndyJS said:
    I thought it was James Maybrick?
    James was the main suspect a few years ago when his supposed "diary" was published. This is his brother.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,422
    JEO said:
    He said: “Having read everything before me, it was quite clear he was a mature 11-year-old and you were an immature 20-year-old so that narrows the arithmetic age gap between you.”

    Oh wow ! That is REALLY taking the piss.
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