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It'll be interesting to read the obituaries.
Little odd that Howe and Healey died so close to one another (as did Lord Flashheart and Nursie).
Edited extra bit: my condolences to his friends/family, of course.
And after a good innings, that’s a rather good way to go imho. – RIP.
People may complain about our electoral process, but at least we don't have mass murders in the run-up.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34495161
(although I suspect peace will not be part of the equation, there will be too much fun to be had)
"He was one of the sort-of likeable Tories, a caring Tory, which there wasn't many of them about in those days."
Labour just cannot switch the nastiness off, can they?
Edit: and follows it up by calling Thatcher 'a brute' and 'brutal'.
Campbell nominated Corbyn for Labour leader.
They just can't help themselves.
The best of enemies, the best of friends.
During the week I had written a piece for tomorrow criticising him but that'll have to wait.
Guardian Writer on Jewish Journalist: “F**k Him, They Should Cut His Throat” http://order-order.com/2015/10/08/guardian-writer-on-jewish-journalist-fk-him-they-should-cut-his-throat/ …
Any tips from Mrs JJ? I was planning to keep well clear of any political gatherings, and am staying in Sultanhamet.
Leaving aside that the Rothschilds have always been mainly Jewish (!) except I think the Nathan R branch, it is quite cultural.
Quakers were always highly intellectual - Lady Bountiful with a conscience cooknig up justice, visiting prisons and freeing slaves, while the Methodists were finally reacting against Anglican stuckup-ness after a period being even more ritualistic, which didn't satisfy.
The difference is still quite a good stereotype, though Methodists have become more like downmarket Anglicans with more modest amounts of wine and fewer candles.
I am ignoring Evangelicals. Except in North America, where Quakers are often Evangelicals.
But mainly: enjoy yourself! I'm quite jealous: Istanbul is so much nicer than Ankara.
If a young person is elected they bring with them the perspective of a young person which in itself brings something the Commons is missing. For instance in all the debates on tuition fees how many MPs paid large fees themselves? In all the debates on the deficit how many in Parliament are thinking "I have forty more years of working life ahead and taxes to pay and don't what to mortgage everything for today only".
The problem is not youngsters. The problem which would not be prevented by a 30 year rule is a large number of people going straight from education to being a Spad to being parachuted into a safe seat. A minimum age requirement would do nothing whatsoever to fix that.
I paid tuition fees, I have about 35 more years of taxes to pay before I retire. There are very few in the Commons who can say the same to either wheras there are lots in the commons with a Spad background
Unles your’re the sort of person who would attack Farage for his Hugenout ancestry and his German wife! Which I know about but am unworried by.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news
I think a more pithy phrase for the more modern Methodism in the ecumenical modge-podge might be "decaffeinated Anglicans", though I wouldn't say it while sitting in the same room as one holding a walking stick :-) .
Whoever did it, the government will see it to their advantage as another way of reducing the secular centre-left and pro-Kurdish HDP's vote at the forthcoming GE.
I doubt we'll particularly get to the truth of this one, or at least know we've got to the truth. It's distinctly possible the government will have no idea even if people allied to them did it. It's all part of the sad game that's going on in the region.
In other news, the PKK has announced an immediate ceasefire in the country before the elections.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/10/10/uk-turkey-kurds-ceasefire-idUKKCN0S40FW20151010
Might have to be 80 if everyone keeps spending all the money now which is why we need some fresh perspectives and not just people thinking about today and "well in 45 years I'll be dead".
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/oct/09/eu-referendum-britain-out-europe-brexit
People vote for fools all the time, I've probably done it myself and not realised it, particularly when the party label appears to be the most important factor in why people vote the way they do (far more than views or worthiness of the candidate, or even policy positions of the party in question), and so restricting by age won't prevent the wrong sort of people being MPs, it just means young fools will be missed in favour of older fools, and the same number of good ones get through as they do now.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-34487805
It's not as if the entire Commons would be filled with 18-year olds but it would benefit from twenty or so in the 18-25 age range.
TBH good cheap wine or a free TV licence ....... no brainer really!
Given that there are not only zero 18 year olds in the Commons but that there has NEVER been a teenager elected in the last few centuries of the modern Parliament your argument is a ludicrously absurd straw man.
The Labour candidate in my area was 18, as it happens.
If for the first time ever one did come around that was able to convince you and the many thousands of others to vote for them then they would almost certainly come with a different perspective and background to the hundreds of MPs over 30 who've never held a non political job.
I wonder, will we, in a year or so find the SNP nominating ex-SPAD’s, and are there any LibDem ex-SPAD’s being lined up as candidates? I seem to recall that Archie Kirkpatrick, before his election, was employed, at least pert-time by David Steel, and there may be others.
Exceptions for the LD’s last time of course!
We all know how tribal some of the voting is in some constituencies - which means that some very unlikely candidates can end up getting elected (if they have sufficient support at the selection meeting)
And then you get what - under any other circumstances - would be 'paper' candidates who are swept to power because of an unstoppable national (or regional) swing. Candidates who were selected because a candidate was needed and not because they were thought to have any realistic chance of winning.
So there is no guarantee that a very young candidate will be exceptional - more likely that they were in the right place at the right time.
There's another 5-10 years to go on Life Expectancy by 2040 or so, and by then that will be going straight on the pension date too imo for about a constant 15-18 years of pension.
Which makes that 68 more like 72 or 74. I believe the current numbers were a Gordon Brown prediction originally.
I'll offer you about 50-1 on a 100k paid now stake that your pension will come on stream after say 2065. By which time I am due to be nearly 100. My Executors will entertain legal actions for welching.
Oops. I appear to be thinking "well in 45 years...".
Go on, name and shame.
[Unlike the pension certain - ex - constituents - and cats - will have.]
:socialism-is-4-5cum-&-scotz:
https://pslarson2.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/worldgini.png
The lack of talent in that cohort is absolutely terrifying.
Margaret Thatcher had a lot of real life experience but fought and lost for election three times before she was 30. That experience helped shape who she was later on but would be banned if an age minimum was in place.
Not that the situation is likely to arise, as our local Tory MP is quite young (43) and has a substantial majority. I wouldn’t think, either that she’d be allowed by the Party to be disadvantaged by boundary changes.
I think the nation should be forever in her debt for smashing the dictatorship of the unions, but I have never mourned her ouster.
I think I'd participate in any party's open primary, if given the chance, for all I'd prefer more seats that were actual contests and not foregone conclusions.