"It was part of the lightness of touch missing from the turgid mess that was Prometheus....."
You liked Martian? I must be one of the few who didn't and Ridley hasn't got any bigger fan than me when he's on form. I just found it childish and lacking in tension. The Jordanian desert looked good but it does in real life!
@GardhamHT: Fury at Scottish Government decision to hand £350m water contract to private firm based in England http://t.co/48QbZxGcqF
He must be mistaken. It's the best thing Nicola has ever done...
It's strange.
I read the headline about "fury" and decided to lead the article. I see nothing about fury, no riots in the streets, no evidence of anger or even vague mutterings from the public.
Just a load of bullshit from vested interests and political irrelevances like Willie Rennie and Patrick Harvie.
Religious folk often seem to have it in for trans people, and yet...
- God made Eve from Adam's rib - Eve must therefore have XY chromosomes although she was a woman - God blessed them, the first gay marriage (based on chromosomes) - Their blessed but incestuous union produced children - All this is available in the Bible for reading to all ages of the family
LOL............. religious, you are as on the ball as Isam Bev.
Roger that is good news about your Italian academic friend being fined £15,000 for employing an illegal worker. As the story gets more publicity it will force others to stop the practice and hire legal workers maybe at higher pay. Chins
I guess these are the brillient headlines we will see in the Nat onal tomorrow after this amazing deal
FEARS were mounting last night that ministers were preparing to hand a £350 million contract to supply water to Scotland’s schools, hospitals, prisons and Government offices to an English private water company.
Not just any private company - but ANGLIAN water - ENGLAND is derived from ANGLE - so it's the ENGLISH TOP HAT PINSTRIPE WESTMONSTER water company that will be stealing the profits, beating the workers etc.
It's come to a pretty pass when the SNP awards a massive utility contract to a privately-held English company at the expense of a Scottish public body.
So much for the great Scottish business revival that was going to be unleashed by an independent Scotland..... Of course, lost Scottish jobs and bankrupt Scottish businesses are all fair game so long as the Scottish Govt. is getting value for money".... says Dair.
LOL , worse than the other turkey , the public service continues as it did and the SNP save us £40M on top, win win yet again.
those who spend the most money on political parties and who offer the cushiest non-executive roles for retired politicians.
For example?
It's probably easier to find a senior Tory or Labourite who has retired in the last 20 years and not accepted non-executive directorships on exceptionally good pay for no actual work.
An Italian academic friend decided to buy a cafe bar and to this end gave up give up his job lecturing. He inherited a staff of eight or nine-the cafe's open seven days a week twelve hours a day-and off he went.
A very steep learning curve and very hard work but he really took to it. I asked him how he was getting on "I'm poor but happy!" he said. His newly aquired staff loved him.
After six weeks on a Friday night he was visited by eight immigration officers. All the staff were required to show their passports. All were fine except for a part time dishwasher who worked for four hours on Friday and Saturday nights. He was a French speaking Algerian and my Italian friend had no idea that he wasn't working legally
They instantly served him with a paper which said he'd employed someone whose work permit had run out and the Home Office would rule on his case and he'd have a result in four weeks.
The only thing that could alleviate the fine they would impose would be if he could direct them to anyone else working illegally at another establishment. Obviously he couldn't and wouldn't
He has just received his fine which is for £15,000! There is no appeal and he has four weeks to pay. He can't afford to pay so he and his excellent staff will now be out of a job. Can anyone think of anything more stupid?
Six weeks is plenty enough time to check whether you are legally employing people or not.
@GardhamHT: Fury at Scottish Government decision to hand £350m water contract to private firm based in England http://t.co/48QbZxGcqF
He must be mistaken. It's the best thing Nicola has ever done...
It's strange.
I read the headline about "fury" and decided to lead the article. I see nothing about fury, no riots in the streets, no evidence of anger or even vague mutterings from the public.
Just a load of bullshit from vested interests and political irrelevances like Willie Rennie and Patrick Harvie.
Just in the fantasist mind of the unionist halfwit Gardham, he would not recognise a journalist if he tripped over one. As you say aided by pygmies liek Rennie.
@GardhamHT: Fury at Scottish Government decision to hand £350m water contract to private firm based in England http://t.co/48QbZxGcqF
He must be mistaken. It's the best thing Nicola has ever done...
It's strange.
I read the headline about "fury" and decided to lead the article. I see nothing about fury, no riots in the streets, no evidence of anger or even vague mutterings from the public.
Just a load of bullshit from vested interests and political irrelevances like Willie Rennie and Patrick Harvie.
Just in the fantasist mind of the unionist halfwit Gardham, he would not recognise a journalist if he tripped over one. As you say aided by pygmies liek Rennie.
Sorry still laughing at Rev Stuart Campbell used to vote LibDem.
An activist from the loony left group No Borders has supposedly been gang raped in a migrant camp on the French border and then pressured into keeping quiet as it may look bad on the migrants:
The Tories have received an awful lot of abuse for only agreeing to take migrants from the camps near Syria. Once again Labour have shown how they are a sorry excuse for a political party and would have caused untold damage to this country should they have won in May.
"The penalty notice will give you your payment options and tell you what do next. It will also tell you how to appeal if you want to"
Thanks but.....
The phone line to the Home office does give you those details but it makes clear there are no mitigating circumstances accepted and in the form you are required to fill in there is no where that it asks for any. I contacted a lawyer on his behalf and there NO grounds whatsoever for mitigation or appeal.
@GardhamHT: Fury at Scottish Government decision to hand £350m water contract to private firm based in England http://t.co/48QbZxGcqF
He must be mistaken. It's the best thing Nicola has ever done...
It's strange.
I read the headline about "fury" and decided to lead the article. I see nothing about fury, no riots in the streets, no evidence of anger or even vague mutterings from the public.
Just a load of bullshit from vested interests and political irrelevances like Willie Rennie and Patrick Harvie.
Just in the fantasist mind of the unionist halfwit Gardham, he would not recognise a journalist if he tripped over one. As you say aided by pygmies liek Rennie.
Sorry still laughing at Rev Stuart Campbell used to vote LibDem.
Alan, it was the religious bit that got me , still chuckling.
PS. maybe he was young at the time and taken in by the chancers, perhaps that was what made him turn to religion.
"Why should he be treated any differently from the rest of us because he's your friend? "
Not because he's my friend but because a fine of £15,000 is ridiculous for employing a dishwasher who was paid about £7 an hour for eight hours a week. His particular circumstances just shows what a pernicious blunt instrument she's wielding. It's a stunt so she can look like she's tougher than Farage.
We're soft. In France your friend would risk going to prison for 5 years, plus a similar criminal fine and possible civil fines of €100,000. Italy is similarly strict.
Yes well the French have no word for laissez faire.
I know a joke about laissez faire, sang froid and savoir faire. NSFW, though.
So the money, 350 mil, leaves Scotland...does not go into Scottish workers pay packets..it goes to a Company based in England...and MG ,DAIR , see that as a great deal for Scotland...heheh....and they call us turnip heads....yep, that figures.
All the work and staff are in Scotland.
The effect is that either Anglian have underbid and will be subsidising the provision of water to some of Scotlands public sector out of their profits.
Or they have bid well and can expect a circa 5% profit - or £17m. I'm quite happy for Anglian to book a profit of £17m for saving Taxpayers £40m.
But then I believe in the market while, as we established much earlier, the SNP's opponents are all about a socialist nanny-state soaking taxpayers and destroying business enterprise.
are there people on this website seriously questioning that women suffer discrimination?
No, it is the bankrupt logic of the idiot in question which is being pointed out.
Her comment was that "because racism and sexism describe structures of privilege based on race and gender and therefore women of colour and minority genders cannot be racist or sexist".
As cisgender men are a gender minority, the idiot is effectively arguing that men cannot be racist or sexist as they are a minority gender. Which is clearly the opposite of what this moron intended.
@GardhamHT: Fury at Scottish Government decision to hand £350m water contract to private firm based in England http://t.co/48QbZxGcqF
He must be mistaken. It's the best thing Nicola has ever done...
It's strange.
I read the headline about "fury" and decided to lead the article. I see nothing about fury, no riots in the streets, no evidence of anger or even vague mutterings from the public.
Just a load of bullshit from vested interests and political irrelevances like Willie Rennie and Patrick Harvie.
Just in the fantasist mind of the unionist halfwit Gardham, he would not recognise a journalist if he tripped over one. As you say aided by pygmies liek Rennie.
Sorry still laughing at Rev Stuart Campbell used to vote LibDem.
Alan, it was the religious bit that got me , still chuckling.
PS. maybe he was young at the time and taken in by the chancers, perhaps that was what made him turn to religion.
Brooke Junior is currently studying at Bath, so if I see scotsman ranting outisde the abbey in a dog collar I'll send him your regards :-)
It implies there is an appeal process. There is not. If someone you employ has a permit which has expired (as in my friends case) there are no grounds WHATSOEVER for appeal and £15,000 is ridiculous. You get less for robbing a bank..
"Penalties for employing illegal workers
You can be fined up to £20,000 per person for employing illegal workers.
Illegal workers include:
students with expired visas, or students working more hours than they’re allowed to people who work on a visitor’s visa
If you’re caught employing an illegal worker
You’ll get a ‘referral notice’ to let you know that:
your case is being considered you may get a fine (also known as a civil penalty) of up to £20,000 for each illegal worker
You won’t have to pay a fine if you can show a valid reason for employing an illegal worker.
You’ll be sent a ‘civil penalty notice’ if you’re found liable and you’ll have 28 days to respond.
The penalty notice will give you your payment options and tell you what do next. It will also tell you how to appeal if you want to.
Your business’s details may be published by Immigration Enforcement as a warning to other businesses not to employ illegal workers."
@GardhamHT: Fury at Scottish Government decision to hand £350m water contract to private firm based in England http://t.co/48QbZxGcqF
He must be mistaken. It's the best thing Nicola has ever done...
It's strange.
I read the headline about "fury" and decided to lead the article. I see nothing about fury, no riots in the streets, no evidence of anger or even vague mutterings from the public.
Just a load of bullshit from vested interests and political irrelevances like Willie Rennie and Patrick Harvie.
Just in the fantasist mind of the unionist halfwit Gardham, he would not recognise a journalist if he tripped over one. As you say aided by pygmies liek Rennie.
Sorry still laughing at Rev Stuart Campbell used to vote LibDem.
Alan, it was the religious bit that got me , still chuckling.
PS. maybe he was young at the time and taken in by the chancers, perhaps that was what made him turn to religion.
Brooke Junior is currently studying at Bath, so if I see scotsman ranting outisde the abbey in a dog collar I'll send him your regards :-)
There's normally a twat with bagpipes making lives miserable in the city centre. It's probably him.
@GardhamHT: Fury at Scottish Government decision to hand £350m water contract to private firm based in England http://t.co/48QbZxGcqF
He must be mistaken. It's the best thing Nicola has ever done...
It's strange.
I read the headline about "fury" and decided to lead the article. I see nothing about fury, no riots in the streets, no evidence of anger or even vague mutterings from the public.
Just a load of bullshit from vested interests and political irrelevances like Willie Rennie and Patrick Harvie.
Just in the fantasist mind of the unionist halfwit Gardham, he would not recognise a journalist if he tripped over one. As you say aided by pygmies liek Rennie.
Sorry still laughing at Rev Stuart Campbell used to vote LibDem.
Alan, it was the religious bit that got me , still chuckling.
PS. maybe he was young at the time and taken in by the chancers, perhaps that was what made him turn to religion.
Brooke Junior is currently studying at Bath, so if I see scotsman ranting outisde the abbey in a dog collar I'll send him your regards :-)
@GardhamHT: Fury at Scottish Government decision to hand £350m water contract to private firm based in England http://t.co/48QbZxGcqF
He must be mistaken. It's the best thing Nicola has ever done...
It's strange.
I read the headline about "fury" and decided to lead the article. I see nothing about fury, no riots in the streets, no evidence of anger or even vague mutterings from the public.
Just a load of bullshit from vested interests and political irrelevances like Willie Rennie and Patrick Harvie.
Just in the fantasist mind of the unionist halfwit Gardham, he would not recognise a journalist if he tripped over one. As you say aided by pygmies liek Rennie.
Sorry still laughing at Rev Stuart Campbell used to vote LibDem.
Alan, it was the religious bit that got me , still chuckling.
PS. maybe he was young at the time and taken in by the chancers, perhaps that was what made him turn to religion.
I don't think it is a genuine claim to be religious, I'm pretty sure that it's related to video gaming (no doubt he's acquired a dodgy US correspondence "degree" at some point to go with the title). No idea if it predated the other Stuart Campbell being gaoled.
Just as Ian "H" Watkins what it's like to share a name with a nasty piece of work.
PS I'd be curious to check the papers of all those Tory MP's and councilors to see how many of their cleaners pass the Theresa May test not to mention the Phillipino carers for their parents.
@GardhamHT: Fury at Scottish Government decision to hand £350m water contract to private firm based in England http://t.co/48QbZxGcqF
He must be mistaken. It's the best thing Nicola has ever done...
It's strange.
I read the headline about "fury" and decided to lead the article. I see nothing about fury, no riots in the streets, no evidence of anger or even vague mutterings from the public.
Just a load of bullshit from vested interests and political irrelevances like Willie Rennie and Patrick Harvie.
Just in the fantasist mind of the unionist halfwit Gardham, he would not recognise a journalist if he tripped over one. As you say aided by pygmies liek Rennie.
Sorry still laughing at Rev Stuart Campbell used to vote LibDem.
Alan, it was the religious bit that got me , still chuckling.
PS. maybe he was young at the time and taken in by the chancers, perhaps that was what made him turn to religion.
Brooke Junior is currently studying at Bath, so if I see scotsman ranting outisde the abbey in a dog collar I'll send him your regards :-)
Could organise a pastoral visit for you
This is what I love about you Malcolm: you are basically a bit of a dick, but you can also be very funny.
PS I'd be curious to check the papers of all those Tory MP's and councilors to see how many of their cleaners pass the Theresa May test not to mention the Phillipino carers for their parents.
@GardhamHT: Fury at Scottish Government decision to hand £350m water contract to private firm based in England http://t.co/48QbZxGcqF
He must be mistaken. It's the best thing Nicola has ever done...
It's strange.
I read the headline about "fury" and decided to lead the article. I see nothing about fury, no riots in the streets, no evidence of anger or even vague mutterings from the public.
Just a load of bullshit from vested interests and political irrelevances like Willie Rennie and Patrick Harvie.
Just in the fantasist mind of the unionist halfwit Gardham, he would not recognise a journalist if he tripped over one. As you say aided by pygmies liek Rennie.
Sorry still laughing at Rev Stuart Campbell used to vote LibDem.
Alan, it was the religious bit that got me , still chuckling.
PS. maybe he was young at the time and taken in by the chancers, perhaps that was what made him turn to religion.
I don't think it is a genuine claim to be religious, I'm pretty sure that it's related to video gaming (no doubt he's acquired a dodgy US correspondence "degree" at some point to go with the title).
He is certainly streets ahead of what purport to be journalists for the unionist rags. He actually does checking of facts which is pretty alien to the mainstream alleged journalists.
PS I'd be curious to check the papers of all those Tory MP's and councilors to see how many of their cleaners pass the Theresa May test not to mention the Phillipino carers for their parents.
ROGER..They should get whacked too..why stop at the Tory MP's and Councillors.. keep on going and have look at all MP's and all Councillors...including your beloved Labour ones...
Religious folk often seem to have it in for trans people, and yet...
- God made Eve from Adam's rib - Eve must therefore have XY chromosomes although she was a woman - God blessed them, the first gay marriage (based on chromosomes) - Their blessed but incestuous union produced children - All this is available in the Bible for reading to all ages of the family
LOL............. religious, you are as on the ball as Isam Bev.
What did I do?!?!
posting garbage by some halfwit from years ago
I wasn't agreeing with it! I don't even know what wings of Scotland is, just noticed it, so shared.
Had a day off and so on a whim went to see The Martian, which I hadn't been planning to see but heard was good.
F---ing excellent movie, best I've seen in years. Tense but funny, beautiful, heartwarming and emotional as hell.
Sequel to Interstellar - Matt Damon marooned by himself on a far-flung planet!
Haven't gotten around to see Interstellar yet - I was rather put out by the pompous crowd of 'you just don't get it' defenders to some of its critics. Wouldn't be a problem for The Martian, I assure you - the sort of simple tale done perfectly, and hitting home emotionally very well as a result.
I liked Interstellar, but much preferred Nolan's Inception.
EDIT - yet to see Martian!
Both good Nolan films (as was his Batman effort).
But he will never make a film as good or as masterful as Memento.
I don't think it is a genuine claim to be religious, I'm pretty sure that it's related to video gaming (no doubt he's acquired a dodgy US correspondence "degree" at some point to go with the title).
He is certainly streets ahead of what purport to be journalists for the unionist rags. He actually does checking of facts which is pretty alien to the mainstream alleged journalists.
Indeed, Campbell himself seems to be a pretty despicable character. But as long as his articles are fact checked and stand up to scrutiny, they are light years ahead of anything in the Loyalist press.
@GardhamHT: Fury at Scottish Government decision to hand £350m water contract to private firm based in England http://t.co/48QbZxGcqF
He must be mistaken. It's the best thing Nicola has ever done...
It's strange.
I read the headline about "fury" and decided to lead the article. I see nothing about fury, no riots in the streets, no evidence of anger or even vague mutterings from the public.
Just a load of bullshit from vested interests and political irrelevances like Willie Rennie and Patrick Harvie.
Just in the fantasist mind of the unionist halfwit Gardham, he would not recognise a journalist if he tripped over one. As you say aided by pygmies liek Rennie.
Sorry still laughing at Rev Stuart Campbell used to vote LibDem.
Alan, it was the religious bit that got me , still chuckling.
PS. maybe he was young at the time and taken in by the chancers, perhaps that was what made him turn to religion.
Brooke Junior is currently studying at Bath, so if I see scotsman ranting outisde the abbey in a dog collar I'll send him your regards :-)
Could organise a pastoral visit for you
This is what I love about you Malcolm: you are basically a bit of a dick, but you can also be very funny.
I will take that as a compliment Casino , I have my moments. Far too many of the bottom feeders on here take it all very seriously even though they lack the brain cells, but imagine they are hilarious. As I look down on them from my lofty perch I laugh at them being crapped upon and yet too stupid to realise it.
To watch a speech by Theresa May, and then a speech by Boris Johnson, is a disorienting experience. The two are so startlingly different – in tone, mood, character, worldview, everything – that to be subjected to them in quick succession leaves you feeling mildly shaken. One minute, icy fulmination; the next, sunlit merriment. Scarcely have you recovered from being knocked around the room by the one than you’re being hand-fed grapes by the other. At next year’s Tory conference, it might be an idea to leave a bigger gap between them. Say, a fortnight.
@GardhamHT: Fury at Scottish Government decision to hand £350m water contract to private firm based in England http://t.co/48QbZxGcqF
He must be mistaken. It's the best thing Nicola has ever done...
It's strange.
I read the headline about "fury" and decided to lead the article. I see nothing about fury, no riots in the streets, no evidence of anger or even vague mutterings from the public.
Just a load of bullshit from vested interests and political irrelevances like Willie Rennie and Patrick Harvie.
Just in the fantasist mind of the unionist halfwit Gardham, he would not recognise a journalist if he tripped over one. As you say aided by pygmies liek Rennie.
Sorry still laughing at Rev Stuart Campbell used to vote LibDem.
Alan, it was the religious bit that got me , still chuckling.
PS. maybe he was young at the time and taken in by the chancers, perhaps that was what made him turn to religion.
Brooke Junior is currently studying at Bath, so if I see scotsman ranting outisde the abbey in a dog collar I'll send him your regards :-)
Religious folk often seem to have it in for trans people, and yet...
- God made Eve from Adam's rib - Eve must therefore have XY chromosomes although she was a woman - God blessed them, the first gay marriage (based on chromosomes) - Their blessed but incestuous union produced children - All this is available in the Bible for reading to all ages of the family
LOL............. religious, you are as on the ball as Isam Bev.
What did I do?!?!
posting garbage by some halfwit from years ago
I wasn't agreeing with it! I don't even know what wings of Scotland is, just noticed it, so shared.
isam no issue , was just laughing at it being 2 years old and by a bellend. The frothers on here hate the Rev as he supports Scotland and independence and has the audacity to live in Bath. Gets them foaming at the mouth.
To watch a speech by Theresa May, and then a speech by Boris Johnson, is a disorienting experience. The two are so startlingly different – in tone, mood, character, worldview, everything – that to be subjected to them in quick succession leaves you feeling mildly shaken. One minute, icy fulmination; the next, sunlit merriment. Scarcely have you recovered from being knocked around the room by the one than you’re being hand-fed grapes by the other. At next year’s Tory conference, it might be an idea to leave a bigger gap between them. Say, a fortnight.
It implies there is an appeal process. There is not. If someone you employ has a permit which has expired (as in my friends case) there are no grounds WHATSOEVER for appeal and £15,000 is ridiculous. You get less for robbing a bank..
"Penalties for employing illegal workers
You can be fined up to £20,000 per person for employing illegal workers.
Illegal workers include:
students with expired visas, or students working more hours than they’re allowed to people who work on a visitor’s visa
If you’re caught employing an illegal worker
You’ll get a ‘referral notice’ to let you know that:
your case is being considered you may get a fine (also known as a civil penalty) of up to £20,000 for each illegal worker
You won’t have to pay a fine if you can show a valid reason for employing an illegal worker.
You’ll be sent a ‘civil penalty notice’ if you’re found liable and you’ll have 28 days to respond.
The penalty notice will give you your payment options and tell you what do next. It will also tell you how to appeal if you want to.
Your business’s details may be published by Immigration Enforcement as a warning to other businesses not to employ illegal workers."
Your friend becomes an employer and fails to carry out the duties legally expected of an employer and that is Theresa May's fault? Weird logic there. I suppose you would blame Patrick McLoughlin if an Italian mate of yours got nicked for drink driving.
Religious folk often seem to have it in for trans people, and yet...
- God made Eve from Adam's rib - Eve must therefore have XY chromosomes although she was a woman - God blessed them, the first gay marriage (based on chromosomes) - Their blessed but incestuous union produced children - All this is available in the Bible for reading to all ages of the family
LOL............. religious, you are as on the ball as Isam Bev.
What did I do?!?!
posting garbage by some halfwit from years ago
I wasn't agreeing with it! I don't even know what wings of Scotland is, just noticed it, so shared.
isam no issue , was just laughing at it being 2 years old and by a bellend. The frothers on here hate the Rev as he supports Scotland and independence and has the audacity to live in Bath. Gets them foaming at the mouth.
Maybe it's time to fess up you really live in Sussex next door to Richard Nabavi.
@GardhamHT: Fury at Scottish Government decision to hand £350m water contract to private firm based in England http://t.co/48QbZxGcqF
He must be mistaken. It's the best thing Nicola has ever done...
It's strange.
I read the headline about "fury" and decided to lead the article. I see nothing about fury, no riots in the streets, no evidence of anger or even vague mutterings from the public.
Just a load of bullshit from vested interests and political irrelevances like Willie Rennie and Patrick Harvie.
Just in the fantasist mind of the unionist halfwit Gardham, he would not recognise a journalist if he tripped over one. As you say aided by pygmies liek Rennie.
Sorry still laughing at Rev Stuart Campbell used to vote LibDem.
Alan, it was the religious bit that got me , still chuckling.
PS. maybe he was young at the time and taken in by the chancers, perhaps that was what made him turn to religion.
Brooke Junior is currently studying at Bath, so if I see scotsman ranting outisde the abbey in a dog collar I'll send him your regards :-)
Could organise a pastoral visit for you
He's a bit too Jim Jones for my liking.
Doing well for himself , self employed , manages to live in Bath and writes some good stories.
Religious folk often seem to have it in for trans people, and yet...
- God made Eve from Adam's rib - Eve must therefore have XY chromosomes although she was a woman - God blessed them, the first gay marriage (based on chromosomes) - Their blessed but incestuous union produced children - All this is available in the Bible for reading to all ages of the family
LOL............. religious, you are as on the ball as Isam Bev.
What did I do?!?!
posting garbage by some halfwit from years ago
I wasn't agreeing with it! I don't even know what wings of Scotland is, just noticed it, so shared.
isam no issue , was just laughing at it being 2 years old and by a bellend. The frothers on here hate the Rev as he supports Scotland and independence and has the audacity to live in Bath. Gets them foaming at the mouth.
Maybe it's time to fess up you really live in Sussex next door to Richard Nabavi.
PS I'd be curious to check the papers of all those Tory MP's and councilors to see how many of their cleaners pass the Theresa May test not to mention the Phillipino carers for their parents.
Hey Roger ..you must be wealthy enough with your second home in France and all that dosh from tampon tv ads ...either pay for his lawyer or pay his fine but dont whine.
@GardhamHT: Fury at Scottish Government decision to hand £350m water contract to private firm based in England http://t.co/48QbZxGcqF
He must be mistaken. It's the best thing Nicola has ever done...
It's strange.
I read the headline about "fury" and decided to lead the article. I see nothing about fury, no riots in the streets, no evidence of anger or even vague mutterings from the public.
Just a load of bullshit from vested interests and political irrelevances like Willie Rennie and Patrick Harvie.
Just in the fantasist mind of the unionist halfwit Gardham, he would not recognise a journalist if he tripped over one. As you say aided by pygmies liek Rennie.
Sorry still laughing at Rev Stuart Campbell used to vote LibDem.
Alan, it was the religious bit that got me , still chuckling.
PS. maybe he was young at the time and taken in by the chancers, perhaps that was what made him turn to religion.
Brooke Junior is currently studying at Bath, so if I see scotsman ranting outisde the abbey in a dog collar I'll send him your regards :-)
Could organise a pastoral visit for you
This is what I love about you Malcolm: you are basically a bit of a dick, but you can also be very funny.
I will take that as a compliment Casino , I have my moments. Far too many of the bottom feeders on here take it all very seriously even though they lack the brain cells, but imagine they are hilarious. As I look down on them from my lofty perch I laugh at them being crapped upon and yet too stupid to realise it.
My pleasure.
I also fall into that category of yours on occasion though - you called me a pompous halfwit earlier for criticising Wings but, to be honest, I don't take it too seriously.
I don't think you're malicious; it's just your way of expressing your politics. Even if it is dickish :-)
@GardhamHT: Fury at Scottish Government decision to hand £350m water contract to private firm based in England http://t.co/48QbZxGcqF
He must be mistaken. It's the best thing Nicola has ever done...
It's strange.
I read the headline about "fury" and decided to lead the article. I see nothing about fury, no riots in the streets, no evidence of anger or even vague mutterings from the public.
Just a load of bullshit from vested interests and political irrelevances like Willie Rennie and Patrick Harvie.
Just in the fantasist mind of the unionist halfwit Gardham, he would not recognise a journalist if he tripped over one. As you say aided by pygmies liek Rennie.
Sorry still laughing at Rev Stuart Campbell used to vote LibDem.
Alan, it was the religious bit that got me , still chuckling.
PS. maybe he was young at the time and taken in by the chancers, perhaps that was what made him turn to religion.
Brooke Junior is currently studying at Bath, so if I see scotsman ranting outisde the abbey in a dog collar I'll send him your regards :-)
Could organise a pastoral visit for you
This is what I love about you Malcolm: you are basically a bit of a dick, but you can also be very funny.
I will take that as a compliment Casino , I have my moments. Far too many of the bottom feeders on here take it all very seriously even though they lack the brain cells, but imagine they are hilarious. As I look down on them from my lofty perch I laugh at them being crapped upon and yet too stupid to realise it.
My pleasure.
I also fall into that category of yours on occasion though - you called me a pompous halfwit earlier for criticising Wings but, to be honest, I don't take it too seriously.
I don't think you're malicious; it's just your way of expressing your politics. Even if it is dickish :-)
Casino , It elicits responses , some intelligent like yourself and others lacking in social graces. In most cases I am just indulging in fun and stimulating debate for good or bad. There are a few who are nasty pieces of work though.
Had a day off and so on a whim went to see The Martian, which I hadn't been planning to see but heard was good.
F---ing excellent movie, best I've seen in years. Tense but funny, beautiful, heartwarming and emotional as hell.
Sequel to Interstellar - Matt Damon marooned by himself on a far-flung planet!
Haven't gotten around to see Interstellar yet - I was rather put out by the pompous crowd of 'you just don't get it' defenders to some of its critics. Wouldn't be a problem for The Martian, I assure you - the sort of simple tale done perfectly, and hitting home emotionally very well as a result.
I liked Interstellar, but much preferred Nolan's Inception.
EDIT - yet to see Martian!
Both good Nolan films (as was his Batman effort).
But he will never make a film as good or as masterful as Memento.
"We all lie to ourselves to be happy."
Not sure whether it was here or elsewhere, but someone was asking just how much of taxpayers' money will be spent on trying to save (Saving Private Ryan, Interstellar, The Martian) or kill (Bourne 1 through 23) Matt Damon?
Just got in from work to see the Six O'clock news. A thoroughly political speech from May, but I can't believe it will have escaped most people that she's been Home Secretary for five years and presided over record levels of immigration. Surely she will only look plausible if she campaigns for us to leave the EU?
In terms of numbers we are a majority (51%) but in terms of equality? Not even close...
What are the issues that you see, Beverley?
Things are better now than they were even a few decades ago. In the 1970s women were often still regarded as chattels socially and sometimes legalistically. I was at the receiving end of that when my father made us homeless and it turned out that legally he could do it with impunity. Children and women had less say than he did and I was only a teenager. My mother took years to get over it.
I am equally aware that men get the sh*tty end of the stick too - somebody upthread mentioned the family courts and custody rights so I am not saying this is totally one sided because it is not.
Some inequality is well documented - unequal pay, etc... but there is a lot that is much more subtle. None of it is much in itself but it all mounts up like the death of a 1,000 cuts
- In a business meeting, as one of the more senior people there, why do I have to take the notes if I am the only secretary female present? Or be given the coffee order? Why do I get the glares if I decline the privilege of being the waitress?
- Getting my backside felt on a crowded bus. Or my boobs squeezed.
- Being told I am a "good girl" for completing a simple task that required about 0.01% of my brain power. WTF? I am in my 50s with kids!!
- A few months ago I was in a meeting, me and two blokes, were we where looking at hiring new staff for technical positions. One bloke told the other that a woman had applied to which the second one said that he had reservations since women tended to involve others in their decision making and as a result held others back in their work. Neither of them took any notice of me, only three feet away. So I asked "Are you two serious?" and they both looked at me "About what?" they said, genuinely baffled. I walked away from that contract two days later citing that meeting as one of my reasons (there were others).
- I once had someone I barely knew give me some dirty washing because, being a woman, I could figure out how the washing machine worked.
- Being followed along the street and asked for sex .....
I could go on and on, but you get the idea. It just never stops and the message comes through loud and clear - my role is the lesser one or the subservient one. Even the way I have to phrase things - if I give orders to men they look at me with that blank expression, on the other hand if I rephrase it as a genteel request "Excuse me, but would you please do ..... " then things get done. Note that I have not even attempted to bring ethnic issues of violence against women into this - FGM, honour killings, forced marriage, a woman's testimony being 1/4 of a mans - but that is there, part of the background.
I do not let any of it hold me back, but it is there all the time.
Do I need to know what a cisgender man is, or is this something I can continue to live happily in ignorance of?
I think it means someone who lives their life as if they are the sex that they are
How do you live otherwise, surely you are what you are, or am I missing something. When I was a lad we just had boys and girls.
Oh dear, Mr. G., I am afraid that post indicates the sort of dreadful, old fashioned authoritarian thinking that has no place the brave new UK of the 21st century. You need to attend a diversity re-education camp. I am sure young Dair will know where the nearest one to you can be found. Until you have completed your training it would probably best if you did not post anymore, at least on any subject more controvesial than pussy cats.
Just got in from work to see the Six O'clock news. A thoroughly political speech from May, but I can't believe it will have escaped most people that she's been Home Secretary for five years and presided over record levels of immigration. Surely she will only look plausible if she campaigns for us to leave the EU?
She obviously takes the public for fools, playing to a Tory audience and showing contempt for the public with such blatant untruths.
@GardhamHT: Fury at Scottish Government decision to hand £350m water contract to private firm based in England http://t.co/48QbZxGcqF
He must be mistaken. It's the best thing Nicola has ever done...
It's strange.
I read the headline about "fury" and decided to lead the article. I see nothing about fury, no riots in the streets, no evidence of anger or even vague mutterings from the public.
Just a load of bullshit from vested interests and political irrelevances like Willie Rennie and Patrick Harvie.
Just in the fantasist mind of the unionist halfwit Gardham, he would not recognise a journalist if he tripped over one. As you say aided by pygmies liek Rennie.
Sorry still laughing at Rev Stuart Campbell used to vote LibDem.
Alan, it was the religious bit that got me , still chuckling.
PS. maybe he was young at the time and taken in by the chancers, perhaps that was what made him turn to religion.
Brooke Junior is currently studying at Bath, so if I see scotsman ranting outisde the abbey in a dog collar I'll send him your regards :-)
Could organise a pastoral visit for you
This is what I love about you Malcolm: you are basically a bit of a dick, but you can also be very funny.
I will take that as a compliment Casino , I have my moments. Far too many of the bottom feeders on here take it all very seriously even though they lack the brain cells, but imagine they are hilarious. As I look down on them from my lofty perch I laugh at them being crapped upon and yet too stupid to realise it.
My pleasure.
I also fall into that category of yours on occasion though - you called me a pompous halfwit earlier for criticising Wings but, to be honest, I don't take it too seriously.
I don't think you're malicious; it's just your way of expressing your politics. Even if it is dickish :-)
Casino , It elicits responses , some intelligent like yourself and others lacking in social graces. In most cases I am just indulging in fun and stimulating debate for good or bad.
Amen. Long may that remain so - it's why I love this site.
I'm shocked. I knew the Americans had these draconian punishments -usually dismissal from political office- but until a month ago I had no idea how we had chosen to follow them.
It's so misguided. The illegals should be punished not those inadvertantly employing them It's got unpleasant overtones of the Stasi.
Do I need to know what a cisgender man is, or is this something I can continue to live happily in ignorance of?
It is one of the more useful attempts at new non-biased words. It has a reasonably useful and well defined meaning.
Sorry Dair - it is not new, quite the opposite. It is Latin and its current use comes from alchemy chemistry. Look up cis-trans isomerism. Cis means "on the same side",trans "on the opposite side (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cis–trans_isomerism )
Someone who is trans person is expressing a gender opposite to their birth gender. Conversely anyone whose internal and birth genders align is "cis".
Do I need to know what a cisgender man is, or is this something I can continue to live happily in ignorance of?
I think it means someone who lives their life as if they are the sex that they are
How do you live otherwise, surely you are what you are, or am I missing something. When I was a lad we just had boys and girls.
You can be born male, female or intersex. You can identify as male, female or intersex. That makes a lot of combinations of how one lives their life.
If you ever played D&D think of it like the alignment grid.
Beyond me Dair, Doctors and nurses was my limit. I think all that kind of moonshine is needy self indulgence, just get on with your life is what I say and don't try to stuff it down other people's throats with bullshit names and made up sexes. I don't run about saying I am "normal" or "heterosexual" etc. People nowadays just cannot seem to get on with their lives without having other people telling how great they are , that they are x,y or z.
I'm shocked. I knew the Americans had these draconian punishments -usually dismissal from political office- but until a month ago I had no idea how we had chosen to follow them.
It's so misguided. The illegals should be punished not those inadvertantly employing them It's got unpleasant overtones of the Stasi.
Actually I'm somewhat queasy about these regulations as well. They were introduced by Labour because it was thought that rogue employers were deliberately failing to take proper care to check the status of employees. I can see the point, but I think the burden of proof has been taken too far the other way.
Do I need to know what a cisgender man is, or is this something I can continue to live happily in ignorance of?
I think it means someone who lives their life as if they are the sex that they are
How do you live otherwise, surely you are what you are, or am I missing something. When I was a lad we just had boys and girls.
You can be born male, female or intersex. You can identify as male, female or intersex. That makes a lot of combinations of how one lives their life.
If you ever played D&D think of it like the alignment grid.
Everyone has a biological sex, a gender, and a sexual orientation. The first is determined at conception, the second prenatally, the third (often) in puberty. Intersex folk usually have physiological manifestations (e.g. Klinefelter syndrome).
It is possible to have male genitalia despite being XX (due to the migration of the sra gene from the Y chromosome). It's all weirder and more wonderful than many people appreciate. Though I do think that it's not something that most people have to either contend with or worry about.
Do I need to know what a cisgender man is, or is this something I can continue to live happily in ignorance of?
I think it means someone who lives their life as if they are the sex that they are
How do you live otherwise, surely you are what you are, or am I missing something. When I was a lad we just had boys and girls.
Oh dear, Mr. G., I am afraid that post indicates the sort of dreadful, old fashioned authoritarian thinking that has no place the brave new UK of the 21st century. You need to attend a diversity re-education camp. I am sure young Dair will know where the nearest one to you can be found. Until you have completed your training it would probably best if you did not post anymore, at least on any subject more controvesial than pussy cats.
You perhaps miss the benefit of cisgender.
I can specify a preference for cisgender females and not end up making any potentially embarrassing mistakes.
Things are better now than they were even a few decades ago. In the 1970s women were often still regarded as chattels socially and sometimes legalistically. I was at the receiving end of that when my father made us homeless and it turned out that legally he could do it with impunity. Children and women had less say than he did and I was only a teenager. My mother took years to get over it. ...
- A few months ago I was in a meeting, me and two blokes, were we where looking at hiring new staff for technical positions. One bloke told the other that a woman had applied to which the second one said that he had reservations since women tended to involve others in their decision making and as a result held others back in their work. Neither of them took any notice of me, only three feet away. So I asked "Are you two serious?" and they both looked at me "About what?" they said, genuinely baffled. I walked away from that contract two days later citing that meeting as one of my reasons (there were others).
- I once had someone I barely knew give me some dirty washing because, being a woman, I could figure out how the washing machine worked.
- Being followed along the street and asked for sex .....
I could go on and on, but you get the idea. It just never stops and the message comes through loud and clear - my role is the lesser one or the subservient one. Even the way I have to phrase things - if I give orders to men they look at me with that blank expression, on the other hand if I rephrase it as a genteel request "Excuse me, but would you please do ..... " then things get done. Note that I have not even attempted to bring ethnic issues of violence against women into this - FGM, honour killings, forced marriage, a woman's testimony being 1/4 of a mans - but that is there, part of the background.
I do not let any of it hold me back, but it is there all the time.
Pretty sobering stuff - a lot of us are sympathetic in theory, but not really aware of the extent of this crap in practice. I think it varies a lot by environment - most of the things you describe would have been cause for a formal warning in the places I've worked. I once got reprimanded in a previous job for saying to someone that "One of our attractive staff will make the presentation" - the staff member complained, reasonably enough, that it wasn't up to me to say if she was attractive. But that pales compared to your experiences.
Blame a vicious LABOUR Home Secretary, since a previous LABOUR government introduced the rules.
What's next Roger, a whinge when he's in trouble for not filing his VAT returns, or failing to pay rates, because he hadn't bothered to research what business owners are obliged to do?
Do I need to know what a cisgender man is, or is this something I can continue to live happily in ignorance of?
I think it means someone who lives their life as if they are the sex that they are
How do you live otherwise, surely you are what you are, or am I missing something. When I was a lad we just had boys and girls.
Oh dear, Mr. G., I am afraid that post indicates the sort of dreadful, old fashioned authoritarian thinking that has no place the brave new UK of the 21st century. You need to attend a diversity re-education camp. I am sure young Dair will know where the nearest one to you can be found. Until you have completed your training it would probably best if you did not post anymore, at least on any subject more controvesial than pussy cats.
You perhaps miss the benefit of cisgender.
I can specify a preference for cisgender females and not end up making any potentially embarrassing mistakes.
Do I need to know what a cisgender man is, or is this something I can continue to live happily in ignorance of?
It is one of the more useful attempts at new non-biased words. It has a reasonably useful and well defined meaning.
Sorry Dair - it is not new, quite the opposite. It is Latin and its current use comes from alchemy chemistry. Look up cis-trans isomerism. Cis means "on the same side",trans "on the opposite side (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cis–trans_isomerism )
Someone who is trans person is expressing a gender opposite to their birth gender. Conversely anyone whose internal and birth genders align is "cis".
The etymological source might be old but the conjoined term cisgender is most certainly a (relatively) new word.
However, thanks for the info as I had no idea what the root was.
An Italian academic friend decided to buy a cafe bar and to this end gave up give up his job lecturing. He inherited a staff of eight or nine-the cafe's open seven days a week twelve hours a day-and off he went.
... snip ...
He has just received his fine which is for £15,000! There is no appeal and he has four weeks to pay. He can't afford to pay so he and his excellent staff will now be out of a job. Can anyone think of anything more stupid?
No. As the business owner he should have checked the legal status of his staff. The rules are clear, and ignorance is no defence. Why should he be treated any differently from the rest of us because he's your friend?
Correct The accusation is typical of the increasingly infantile trend on PB. It's certainly rampant today. May is not responsible for the conviction nor the level of the fine.
Do I need to know what a cisgender man is, or is this something I can continue to live happily in ignorance of?
I think it means someone who lives their life as if they are the sex that they are
How do you live otherwise, surely you are what you are, or am I missing something. When I was a lad we just had boys and girls.
Oh dear, Mr. G., I am afraid that post indicates the sort of dreadful, old fashioned authoritarian thinking that has no place the brave new UK of the 21st century. You need to attend a diversity re-education camp. I am sure young Dair will know where the nearest one to you can be found. Until you have completed your training it would probably best if you did not post anymore, at least on any subject more controvesial than pussy cats.
You perhaps miss the benefit of cisgender.
I can specify a preference for cisgender females and not end up making any potentially embarrassing mistakes.
It is a VERY useful term.
you really need to get a life.
He clearly has too much of a life if this word is necessary to remove him from unfortunate circumstances!
Do I need to know what a cisgender man is, or is this something I can continue to live happily in ignorance of?
I think it means someone who lives their life as if they are the sex that they are
How do you live otherwise, surely you are what you are, or am I missing something. When I was a lad we just had boys and girls.
Oh dear, Mr. G., I am afraid that post indicates the sort of dreadful, old fashioned authoritarian thinking that has no place the brave new UK of the 21st century. You need to attend a diversity re-education camp. I am sure young Dair will know where the nearest one to you can be found. Until you have completed your training it would probably best if you did not post anymore, at least on any subject more controvesial than pussy cats.
Hurst , I have to say at times nowadays I feel like a dinosaur, life was so much easier when we were young.
Just got in from work to see the Six O'clock news. A thoroughly political speech from May, but I can't believe it will have escaped most people that she's been Home Secretary for five years and presided over record levels of immigration. Surely she will only look plausible if she campaigns for us to leave the EU?
Mr. 86, I am afraid I am completely lost by May's speech. She stands up and says, in effect, everything UKIP has been saying about immigration for years, was and is actually true but seems to expect the audience to forget that she has been, for the past five years, the person responsible for the policies she now says are bad. How that is supposed to be a powerful political speech is beyond me, perhaps if she had ended by resigning it might have had at least the value of honesty.
Yet there are those, including some on this site, who still think May is a serious candidate for next leader.
I once got reprimanded in a previous job for saying to someone that "One of our attractive staff will make the presentation" - the staff member complained, reasonably enough, that it wasn't up to me to say if she was attractive.
Could have been worse, Nick. You could have said 'One of our ugly staff will make the presentation'
Do I need to know what a cisgender man is, or is this something I can continue to live happily in ignorance of?
I think it means someone who lives their life as if they are the sex that they are
How do you live otherwise, surely you are what you are, or am I missing something. When I was a lad we just had boys and girls.
Oh dear, Mr. G., I am afraid that post indicates the sort of dreadful, old fashioned authoritarian thinking that has no place the brave new UK of the 21st century. You need to attend a diversity re-education camp. I am sure young Dair will know where the nearest one to you can be found. Until you have completed your training it would probably best if you did not post anymore, at least on any subject more controvesial than pussy cats.
Hurst , I have to say at times nowadays I feel like a dinosaur, life was so much easier when we were young.
Don't worry malc, you can still post about the glorious (and gender-neutral) turnip.
I once got reprimanded in a previous job for saying to someone that "One of our attractive staff will make the presentation" - the staff member complained, reasonably enough, that it wasn't up to me to say if she was attractive.
Could have been worse, Nick. You could have said 'One of our ugly staff will make the presentation'
Things are better now than they were even a few decades ago. In the 1970s women were often still regarded as chattels socially and sometimes legalistically. I was at the receiving end of that when my father made us homeless and it turned out that legally he could do it with impunity. Children and women had less say than he did and I was only a teenager. My mother took years to get over it. ...
- A few months ago I was in a meeting, me and two blokes, were we where looking at hiring new staff for technical positions. One bloke told the other that a woman had applied to which the second one said that he had reservations since women tended to involve others in their decision making and as a result held others back in their work. Neither of them took any notice of me, only three feet away. So I asked "Are you two serious?" and they both looked at me "About what?" they said, genuinely baffled. I walked away from that contract two days later citing that meeting as one of my reasons (there were others).
- I once had someone I barely knew give me some dirty washing because, being a woman, I could figure out how the washing machine worked.
- Being followed along the street and asked for sex .....
I could go on and on, but you get the idea. It just never stops and the message comes through loud and clear - my role is the lesser one or the subservient one. Even the way I have to phrase things - if I give orders to men they look at me with that blank expression, on the other hand if I rephrase it as a genteel request "Excuse me, but would you please do ..... " then things get done. Note that I have not even attempted to bring ethnic issues of violence against women into this - FGM, honour killings, forced marriage, a woman's testimony being 1/4 of a mans - but that is there, part of the background.
I do not let any of it hold me back, but it is there all the time.
Pretty sobering stuff - a lot of us are sympathetic in theory, but not really aware of the extent of this crap in practice. I think it varies a lot by environment - most of the things you describe would have been cause for a formal warning in the places I've worked. I once got reprimanded in a previous job for saying to someone that "One of our attractive staff will make the presentation" - the staff member complained, reasonably enough, that it wasn't up to me to say if she was attractive. But that pales compared to your experiences.
I did raise some eyebrows in the US years ago when I asked if anyone was going for a fag. They had all kinds of weird words and talked about alternative lifestyles and such mince.
Do I need to know what a cisgender man is, or is this something I can continue to live happily in ignorance of?
I think it means someone who lives their life as if they are the sex that they are
How do you live otherwise, surely you are what you are, or am I missing something. When I was a lad we just had boys and girls.
You can be born male, female or intersex. You can identify as male, female or intersex. That makes a lot of combinations of how one lives their life.
If you ever played D&D think of it like the alignment grid.
Everyone has a biological sex, a gender, and a sexual orientation. The first is determined at conception, the second prenatally, the third (often) in puberty. Intersex folk usually have physiological manifestations (e.g. Klinefelter syndrome).
It is possible to have male genitalia despite being XX (due to the migration of the sra gene from the Y chromosome). It's all weirder and more wonderful than many people appreciate. Though I do think that it's not something that most people have to either contend with or worry about.
I'd suspect most people who are born intersex are happy to identify with all the various forms it can take as otherwise they would find it very difficult to find anyone to identify with.
Things are better now than they were even a few decades ago. In the 1970s women were often still regarded as chattels socially and sometimes legalistically. I was at the receiving end of that when my father made us homeless and it turned out that legally he could do it with impunity. Children and women had less say than he did and I was only a teenager. My mother took years to get over it. ...
- A few months ago I was in a meeting, me and two blokes, were we where looking at hiring new staff for technical positions. One bloke told the other that a woman had applied to which the second one said that he had reservations since women tended to involve others in their decision making and as a result held others back in their work. Neither of them took any notice of me, only three feet away. So I asked "Are you two serious?" and they both looked at me "About what?" they said, genuinely baffled. I walked away from that contract two days later citing that meeting as one of my reasons (there were others).
- I once had someone I barely knew give me some dirty washing because, being a woman, I could figure out how the washing machine worked.
- Being followed along the street and asked for sex .....
I could go on and on, but you get the idea. It just never stops and the message comes through loud and clear - my role is the lesser one or the subservient one. Even the way I have to phrase things - if I give orders to men they look at me with that blank expression, on the other hand if I rephrase it as a genteel request "Excuse me, but would you please do ..... " then things get done. Note that I have not even attempted to bring ethnic issues of violence against women into this - FGM, honour killings, forced marriage, a woman's testimony being 1/4 of a mans - but that is there, part of the background.
I do not let any of it hold me back, but it is there all the time.
Pretty sobering stuff - a lot of us are sympathetic in theory, but not really aware of the extent of this crap in practice. I think it varies a lot by environment - most of the things you describe would have been cause for a formal warning in the places I've worked. I once got reprimanded in a previous job for saying to someone that "One of our attractive staff will make the presentation" - the staff member complained, reasonably enough, that it wasn't up to me to say if she was attractive. But that pales compared to your experiences.
On the other side you do get plenty of fluttering eyelids , crocodile tears , back stabbing , etc so not all one sided. Women are better at the nasty stuff than men.
Just got in from work to see the Six O'clock news. A thoroughly political speech from May, but I can't believe it will have escaped most people that she's been Home Secretary for five years and presided over record levels of immigration. Surely she will only look plausible if she campaigns for us to leave the EU?
Mr. 86, I am afraid I am completely lost by May's speech. She stands up and says, in effect, everything UKIP has been saying about immigration for years, was and is actually true but seems to expect the audience to forget that she has been, for the past five years, the person responsible for the policies she now says are bad. How that is supposed to be a powerful political speech is beyond me, perhaps if she had ended by resigning it might have had at least the value of honesty.
Yet there are those, including some on this site, who still think May is a serious candidate for next leader.
'Rivers of Crud'
Pointing out all that is bad about immigration without any meaningful solution or the guts to take action
I'm shocked. I knew the Americans had these draconian punishments -usually dismissal from political office- but until a month ago I had no idea how we had chosen to follow them.
It's so misguided. The illegals should be punished not those inadvertantly employing them It's got unpleasant overtones of the Stasi.
Roger, this is just one of many areas in which the modern state sub-contracts out compliance issues. Employ people - and you become an employee of the state yourself. I'm sure your friend is a nice guy and all, but basically HE screwed up in checking the status of his staff. And because HE screwed up - several other people have lost their jobs. The state did nothing wrong.
I just hope his Income Tax and his VAT returns are in a better state...or he is in for a world of pain.
Things are better now than they were even a few decades ago. In the 1970s women were often still regarded as chattels socially and sometimes legalistically. I was at the receiving end of that when my father made us homeless and it turned out that legally he could do it with impunity. Children and women had less say than he did and I was only a teenager. My mother took years to get over it. ...
- A few months ago I was in a meeting, me and two blokes, were we where looking at hiring new staff for technical positions. One bloke told the other that a woman had applied to which the second one said that he had reservations since women tended to involve others in their decision making and as a result held others back in their work. Neither of them took any notice of me, only three feet away. So I asked "Are you two serious?" and they both looked at me "About what?" they said, genuinely baffled. I walked away from that contract two days later citing that meeting as one of my reasons (there were others).
- I once had someone I barely knew give me some dirty washing because, being a woman, I could figure out how the washing machine worked.
- Being followed along the street and asked for sex .....
I could go on and on, but you get the idea. It just never stops and the message comes through loud and clear - my role is the lesser one or the subservient one. Even the way I have to phrase things - if I give orders to men they look at me with that blank expression, on the other hand if I rephrase it as a genteel request "Excuse me, but would you please do ..... " then things get done. Note that I have not even attempted to bring ethnic issues of violence against women into this - FGM, honour killings, forced marriage, a woman's testimony being 1/4 of a mans - but that is there, part of the background.
I do not let any of it hold me back, but it is there all the time.
Pretty sobering stuff - a lot of us are sympathetic in theory, but not really aware of the extent of this crap in practice. I think it varies a lot by environment - most of the things you describe would have been cause for a formal warning in the places I've worked. I once got reprimanded in a previous job for saying to someone that "One of our attractive staff will make the presentation" - the staff member complained, reasonably enough, that it wasn't up to me to say if she was attractive. But that pales compared to your experiences.
I did raise some eyebrows in the US years ago when I asked if anyone was going for a fag. They had all kinds of weird words and talked about alternative lifestyles and such mince.
Never ask to "bum a fag", I've done that once or twice and got a few titters back.
Do I need to know what a cisgender man is, or is this something I can continue to live happily in ignorance of?
I think it means someone who lives their life as if they are the sex that they are
How do you live otherwise, surely you are what you are, or am I missing something. When I was a lad we just had boys and girls.
Oh dear, Mr. G., I am afraid that post indicates the sort of dreadful, old fashioned authoritarian thinking that has no place the brave new UK of the 21st century. You need to attend a diversity re-education camp. I am sure young Dair will know where the nearest one to you can be found. Until you have completed your training it would probably best if you did not post anymore, at least on any subject more controvesial than pussy cats.
You perhaps miss the benefit of cisgender.
I can specify a preference for cisgender females and not end up making any potentially embarrassing mistakes.
It is a VERY useful term.
So from Bev's post is a cisgender female one that thinks she is a female, or are you a female and I have it all back to front
I could go on and on, but you get the idea. It just never stops and the message comes through loud and clear - my role is the lesser one or the subservient one. Even the way I have to phrase things - if I give orders to men they look at me with that blank expression, on the other hand if I rephrase it as a genteel request "Excuse me, but would you please do ..... " then things get done. Note that I have not even attempted to bring ethnic issues of violence against women into this - FGM, honour killings, forced marriage, a woman's testimony being 1/4 of a mans - but that is there, part of the background.
I do not let any of it hold me back, but it is there all the time.
Beverley, I have to say I am gobsmacked at some or your examples - the laundry in particular. Some less so.
Even though I was brought up in a household where the expectation was that my sisters would be as competitive in the professional workforce as me and household chores were split regardless of gender of sibling, I still find myself having to make a conscious effort to avoid sexism. In meetings with people I don't know, where there are men and women, checking who is the boss before making assumptions, for example, is something I have to remind myself to do consciously.
Even so, sometimes I see it on the other side of the table. Was at a meeting with our mortgage holder the other day - older guy and middle aged woman. He did all the talking, she took the notes. If I had not asked, I wouldn't have known she was the loan officer, not him.
Of course, there is also a lot of non-sexist inconsiderate thoughtlessness in the workplace too, which can appear sexist. Because I look quite a bit younger than my years (full head of hear with little grey), I am often not initially regarded as senior or experienced. Were I a woman, I might label that as sexism. As it is, I try to take it as flattery.
Do I need to know what a cisgender man is, or is this something I can continue to live happily in ignorance of?
I think it means someone who lives their life as if they are the sex that they are
How do you live otherwise, surely you are what you are, or am I missing something. When I was a lad we just had boys and girls.
Oh dear, Mr. G., I am afraid that post indicates the sort of dreadful, old fashioned authoritarian thinking that has no place the brave new UK of the 21st century. You need to attend a diversity re-education camp. I am sure young Dair will know where the nearest one to you can be found. Until you have completed your training it would probably best if you did not post anymore, at least on any subject more controvesial than pussy cats.
You perhaps miss the benefit of cisgender.
I can specify a preference for cisgender females and not end up making any potentially embarrassing mistakes.
It is a VERY useful term.
So from Bev's post is a cisgender female one that thinks she is a female, or are you a female and I have it all back to front
malc if you have it all back to front I suspect you're transgender.
Do I need to know what a cisgender man is, or is this something I can continue to live happily in ignorance of?
I think it means someone who lives their life as if they are the sex that they are
How do you live otherwise, surely you are what you are, or am I missing something. When I was a lad we just had boys and girls.
Oh dear, Mr. G., I am afraid that post indicates the sort of dreadful, old fashioned authoritarian thinking that has no place the brave new UK of the 21st century. You need to attend a diversity re-education camp. I am sure young Dair will know where the nearest one to you can be found. Until you have completed your training it would probably best if you did not post anymore, at least on any subject more controvesial than pussy cats.
Hurst , I have to say at times nowadays I feel like a dinosaur, life was so much easier when we were young.
And a lot more fun, Mr. G. Or will that be Mrs. G., today? Not sure how you're identifying these days.
I tried sorting out some money stuff for my wife the other week and the person on the end refused to talk to me for data protection reasons. I hung up and phoned back, introducing myself as Mrs Lama and they were more than happy to deal with me. Getting in touch with your feminine side can sometimes be useful.
However, for all young Dair, non-gender specific poster of this parish, might say, for 99.9% of the population life still goes on with boys and girls and the very rare exception, just as it has for millennia. Best for the likes of you and I not to worry about it.
Do I need to know what a cisgender man is, or is this something I can continue to live happily in ignorance of?
I think it means someone who lives their life as if they are the sex that they are
How do you live otherwise, surely you are what you are, or am I missing something. When I was a lad we just had boys and girls.
Oh dear, Mr. G., I am afraid that post indicates the sort of dreadful, old fashioned authoritarian thinking that has no place the brave new UK of the 21st century. You need to attend a diversity re-education camp. I am sure young Dair will know where the nearest one to you can be found. Until you have completed your training it would probably best if you did not post anymore, at least on any subject more controvesial than pussy cats.
Hurst , I have to say at times nowadays I feel like a dinosaur, life was so much easier when we were young.
And a lot more fun, Mr. G. Or will that be Mrs. G., today? Not sure how you're identifying these days.
I tried sorting out some money stuff for my wife the other week and the person on the end refused to talk to me for data protection reasons. I hung up and phoned back, introducing myself as Mrs Lama and they were more than happy to deal with me. Getting in touch with your feminine side can sometimes be useful.
However, for all young Dair, non-gender specific poster of this parish, might say, for 99.9% of the population life still goes on with boys and girls and the very rare exception, just as it has for millennia. Best for the likes of you and I not to worry about it.
did you change into your tight shorts when you made the second call
Given all the posturing from Osborne, May and Johnson I was wondering who the Jim Hacker of the Tory Party currently is. Hacker was party chairman in the TV series but I see the current Tory Party Chairman is a Lord, but the deputy is Robert Halfon. Am I right in thinking that I've seen his name tipped as an outsider on here?
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"It was part of the lightness of touch missing from the turgid mess that was Prometheus....."
You liked Martian? I must be one of the few who didn't and Ridley hasn't got any bigger fan than me when he's on form. I just found it childish and lacking in tension. The Jordanian desert looked good but it does in real life!
I read the headline about "fury" and decided to lead the article. I see nothing about fury, no riots in the streets, no evidence of anger or even vague mutterings from the public.
Just a load of bullshit from vested interests and political irrelevances like Willie Rennie and Patrick Harvie.
Chins
It's probably easier to find a senior Tory or Labourite who has retired in the last 20 years and not accepted non-executive directorships on exceptionally good pay for no actual work.
EG divorce courts!!
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/10/06/no-borders-activist-gang-raped-migrants-pressured-silence-not-damage-cause/
The Tories have received an awful lot of abuse for only agreeing to take migrants from the camps near Syria. Once again Labour have shown how they are a sorry excuse for a political party and would have caused untold damage to this country should they have won in May.
"The penalty notice will give you your payment options and tell you what do next. It will also tell you how to appeal if you want to"
Thanks but.....
The phone line to the Home office does give you those details but it makes clear there are no mitigating circumstances accepted and in the form you are required to fill in there is no where that it asks for any. I contacted a lawyer on his behalf and there NO grounds whatsoever for mitigation or appeal.
PS. maybe he was young at the time and taken in by the chancers, perhaps that was what made him turn to religion.
The effect is that either Anglian have underbid and will be subsidising the provision of water to some of Scotlands public sector out of their profits.
Or they have bid well and can expect a circa 5% profit - or £17m. I'm quite happy for Anglian to book a profit of £17m for saving Taxpayers £40m.
But then I believe in the market while, as we established much earlier, the SNP's opponents are all about a socialist nanny-state soaking taxpayers and destroying business enterprise.
Her comment was that "because racism and sexism describe structures of privilege based on race and gender and therefore women of colour and minority genders cannot be racist or sexist".
As cisgender men are a gender minority, the idiot is effectively arguing that men cannot be racist or sexist as they are a minority gender. Which is clearly the opposite of what this moron intended.
(Here is the form courtesy of Carlotta)
It implies there is an appeal process. There is not. If someone you employ has a permit which has expired (as in my friends case) there are no grounds WHATSOEVER for appeal and £15,000 is ridiculous. You get less for robbing a bank..
"Penalties for employing illegal workers
You can be fined up to £20,000 per person for employing illegal workers.
Illegal workers include:
students with expired visas, or students working more hours than they’re allowed to
people who work on a visitor’s visa
If you’re caught employing an illegal worker
You’ll get a ‘referral notice’ to let you know that:
your case is being considered
you may get a fine (also known as a civil penalty) of up to £20,000 for each illegal worker
You won’t have to pay a fine if you can show a valid reason for employing an illegal worker.
You’ll be sent a ‘civil penalty notice’ if you’re found liable and you’ll have 28 days to respond.
The penalty notice will give you your payment options and tell you what do next. It will also tell you how to appeal if you want to.
Your business’s details may be published by Immigration Enforcement as a warning to other businesses not to employ illegal workers."
The powers and fines you object to were originally enacted by Labour, but of course you blame only Tory ministers.
Just as Ian "H" Watkins what it's like to share a name with a nasty piece of work.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8260088.stm
http://madjackfuller.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/the-hermit-in-garden-from-imperial-rome.html
It's clearly not just my Italian friend who has suffered at the hands of our vicious Home Secretary. This country is becoming unpleasantly Kafkaesque
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3017850/Pub-landlord-fined-15-000-hiring-illegal-immigrant-barman-lived-UK-50-years-British-mother-brought-aged-THREE.html
I also fall into that category of yours on occasion though - you called me a pompous halfwit earlier for criticising Wings but, to be honest, I don't take it too seriously.
I don't think you're malicious; it's just your way of expressing your politics. Even if it is dickish :-)
Things are better now than they were even a few decades ago. In the 1970s women were often still regarded as chattels socially and sometimes legalistically. I was at the receiving end of that when my father made us homeless and it turned out that legally he could do it with impunity. Children and women had less say than he did and I was only a teenager. My mother took years to get over it.
I am equally aware that men get the sh*tty end of the stick too - somebody upthread mentioned the family courts and custody rights so I am not saying this is totally one sided because it is not.
Some inequality is well documented - unequal pay, etc... but there is a lot that is much more subtle. None of it is much in itself but it all mounts up like the death of a 1,000 cuts
- In a business meeting, as one of the more senior people there, why do I have to take the notes if I am the only secretary female present? Or be given the coffee order? Why do I get the glares if I decline the privilege of being the waitress?
- Getting my backside felt on a crowded bus. Or my boobs squeezed.
- Being told I am a "good girl" for completing a simple task that required about 0.01% of my brain power. WTF? I am in my 50s with kids!!
- A few months ago I was in a meeting, me and two blokes, were we where looking at hiring new staff for technical positions. One bloke told the other that a woman had applied to which the second one said that he had reservations since women tended to involve others in their decision making and as a result held others back in their work. Neither of them took any notice of me, only three feet away. So I asked "Are you two serious?" and they both looked at me "About what?" they said, genuinely baffled. I walked away from that contract two days later citing that meeting as one of my reasons (there were others).
- I once had someone I barely knew give me some dirty washing because, being a woman, I could figure out how the washing machine worked.
- Being followed along the street and asked for sex .....
I could go on and on, but you get the idea. It just never stops and the message comes through loud and clear - my role is the lesser one or the subservient one. Even the way I have to phrase things - if I give orders to men they look at me with that blank expression, on the other hand if I rephrase it as a genteel request "Excuse me, but would you please do ..... " then things get done. Note that I have not even attempted to bring ethnic issues of violence against women into this - FGM, honour killings, forced marriage, a woman's testimony being 1/4 of a mans - but that is there, part of the background.
I do not let any of it hold me back, but it is there all the time.
If you ever played D&D think of it like the alignment grid.
Like this one?
I'm shocked. I knew the Americans had these draconian punishments -usually dismissal from political office- but until a month ago I had no idea how we had chosen to follow them.
It's so misguided. The illegals should be punished not those inadvertantly employing them It's got unpleasant overtones of the Stasi.
Someone who is trans person is expressing a gender opposite to their birth gender. Conversely anyone whose internal and birth genders align is "cis".
It is possible to have male genitalia despite being XX (due to the migration of the sra gene from the Y chromosome). It's all weirder and more wonderful than many people appreciate. Though I do think that it's not something that most people have to either contend with or worry about.
I can specify a preference for cisgender females and not end up making any potentially embarrassing mistakes.
It is a VERY useful term.
What's next Roger, a whinge when he's in trouble for not filing his VAT returns, or failing to pay rates, because he hadn't bothered to research what business owners are obliged to do?
However, thanks for the info as I had no idea what the root was.
The accusation is typical of the increasingly infantile trend on PB. It's certainly rampant today.
May is not responsible for the conviction nor the level of the fine.
Yet there are those, including some on this site, who still think May is a serious candidate for next leader.
http://lallandspeatworrier.blogspot.co.uk/2015/10/mortgage-fraud.html
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/10/06/syrian_conflict_relationships_explained.html?wpsrc=sh_all_dt_tw_top
Pointing out all that is bad about immigration without any meaningful solution or the guts to take action
I just hope his Income Tax and his VAT returns are in a better state...or he is in for a world of pain.
Even though I was brought up in a household where the expectation was that my sisters would be as competitive in the professional workforce as me and household chores were split regardless of gender of sibling, I still find myself having to make a conscious effort to avoid sexism. In meetings with people I don't know, where there are men and women, checking who is the boss before making assumptions, for example, is something I have to remind myself to do consciously.
Even so, sometimes I see it on the other side of the table. Was at a meeting with our mortgage holder the other day - older guy and middle aged woman. He did all the talking, she took the notes. If I had not asked, I wouldn't have known she was the loan officer, not him.
Of course, there is also a lot of non-sexist inconsiderate thoughtlessness in the workplace too, which can appear sexist. Because I look quite a bit younger than my years (full head of hear with little grey), I am often not initially regarded as senior or experienced. Were I a woman, I might label that as sexism. As it is, I try to take it as flattery.
I tried sorting out some money stuff for my wife the other week and the person on the end refused to talk to me for data protection reasons. I hung up and phoned back, introducing myself as Mrs Lama and they were more than happy to deal with me. Getting in touch with your feminine side can sometimes be useful.
However, for all young Dair, non-gender specific poster of this parish, might say, for 99.9% of the population life still goes on with boys and girls and the very rare exception, just as it has for millennia. Best for the likes of you and I not to worry about it.