Things humming at the conference - if any readers are around, come and say hello at stand 59. UNITE agonising on how to vote on Trident if it comes to it (jobs vs general outlook) - current likely stance is abstention but depends on the wording (if the issue gets selected).
The Pope does not own anything apparently ..the Fiat is probably a gift to the Church..he just gets to use it..tax free,insured and fully tanked up..lucky boy..
The Pope does not own anything apparently ..the Fiat is probably a gift to the Church..he just gets to use it..tax free,insured and fully tanked up..lucky boy..
Well when compared with the 'Beast' Obama uses and the Jaguar Cameron uses it is nothing to write home about
The German media is currently where the UK media was in the early 2000s. They refuse to cover such stories because they feel the public might form the wrong conclusions.
You've got a very different impression of the British media in the early 2000s than I do. I recall lots of stories from the Mail, Express etc being very anti-migrant.
The batshit crazy rule that asylum seekers would be allowed to stay in the country but denied the right to work was introduced in 2002 as a typically stupid Labour Party response to media stories back then.
I see the Popes useful idiots are out in force..Who said brainwashing doesn't work..It was Goebbels who said .."Tell a lie often enough and it becomes the truth" If The pope wants to preach extreme frugality to those people who work their socks off to feed their families, then perhaps he could quit his frugal ,fully staffed ,apartment in the Vatican City..move into a fishermans cottage on the shores of Galilee and go catch some fish for his dinner..or STFU
Actually, he did quit the papal apartment as soon as he became Pope:
I see the Popes useful idiots are out in force..Who said brainwashing doesn't work..It was Goebbels who said .."Tell a lie often enough and it becomes the truth" If The pope wants to preach extreme frugality to those people who work their socks off to feed their families, then perhaps he could quit his frugal ,fully staffed ,apartment in the Vatican City..move into a fishermans cottage on the shores of Galilee and go catch some fish for his dinner..or STFU
Actually, he did quit the papal apartment as soon as he became Pope:
That's polling over a year before election day. In a real race Trump will beat Sanders. Sanders can't carry enough middle-class affluent states with his high tax agenda, states that would normally be voting Democrat. Without the white collar middle class the Democrats won't be able to win the election. Liberal college graduates, blacks, hispanics and single women aren't enough to carry 270 EC votes.
HYUFD Both the POTUS and Cameron are democratically elected leaders of huge nations....whether you like it or not..The Pope is a religious leader..He does not have to deal with the worlds problems..control volatile financial and global financial problems.. ensure their respective populations are defended..employed, educated, and cared for in the various health systems..all he has to do is pray..to some god..somewhere .. If he wants frugality for everyone then the best way to achieve that is so embrace it himself..some people may even think it is a good idea..he should lead by example perhaps..the truly frugal do not even aspire to the modest Fiat 500.
That's polling over a year before election day. In a real race Trump will beat Sanders. Sanders can't carry enough middle-class affluent states with his high tax agenda, states that would normally be voting Democrat. Without the white collar middle class the Democrats won't be able to win the election. Liberal college graduates, blacks, hispanics and single women aren't enough to carry 270 EC votes.
So what, on that basis Trump would be at real risk of losing. I could certainly see a scenario where Sanders swept the North East and West Coast and the Upper Mid West plus Iowa and Colorado and New Mexico or Nevada or Ohio to narrowly win. Minorities and women voters now outnumber white men quite comfortably in the US
The German media is currently where the UK media was in the early 2000s. They refuse to cover such stories because they feel the public might form the wrong conclusions.
You've got a very different impression of the British media in the early 2000s than I do. I recall lots of stories from the Mail, Express etc being very anti-migrant.
The batshit crazy rule that asylum seekers would be allowed to stay in the country but denied the right to work was introduced in 2002 as a typically stupid Labour Party response to media stories back then.
The tabloid press in this country has always been outside the mainstream media that the middle and governing class rules.
The rule you are talking about was one of the sensible things Labour did. After a couple of years for the news to get out, it successfully cut asylum applications here. It was obviously a mistake to say to the world's poor "if you get to the UK, you can earn several years salary in a few months even if your claim is illegitimate".
I see the Popes useful idiots are out in force..Who said brainwashing doesn't work..It was Goebbels who said .."Tell a lie often enough and it becomes the truth" If The pope wants to preach extreme frugality to those people who work their socks off to feed their families, then perhaps he could quit his frugal ,fully staffed ,apartment in the Vatican City..move into a fishermans cottage on the shores of Galilee and go catch some fish for his dinner..or STFU
Actually, he did quit the papal apartment as soon as he became Pope:
What about the mountains of gold the Church has? Has it been sold on to donate to give to good causes?
You'll have to be a bit more detailed than that - whilst not a Catholic I suspect they are not to be found wanting in their work or funding for good causes. All I can see are sloppy accusations of hypocrisy where in this case none exists.
Luckyguy1983..1.3 billion followers of the Catholic Church .. only two hundred people got to vote for the pope ..literally the ultimate Old Boys Network.... Democracy in action..
The German media is currently where the UK media was in the early 2000s. They refuse to cover such stories because they feel the public might form the wrong conclusions.
You've got a very different impression of the British media in the early 2000s than I do. I recall lots of stories from the Mail, Express etc being very anti-migrant.
The batshit crazy rule that asylum seekers would be allowed to stay in the country but denied the right to work was introduced in 2002 as a typically stupid Labour Party response to media stories back then.
The tabloid press in this country has always been outside the mainstream media that the middle and governing class rules.
The rule you are talking about was one of the sensible things Labour did. After a couple of years for the news to get out, it successfully cut asylum applications here. It was obviously a mistake to say to the world's poor "if you get to the UK, you can earn several years salary in a few months even if your claim is illegitimate".
No it was a crazy thing to do. If you are illegitimate you should be deported absolutely, but legitimate adults should not be locked into a life of worklessness and dependency upon the state. It is well known that the longer someone is out of work the harder it is to get back into work, but the government decided to lock people out of work for years*.
The smart but difficult decision would be to resolve the flaws in the process so that it just takes weeks or not many months to resolve cases and lead to a speedy new start to life or deportation as the case may be.
The stupid and typically Brownian mess is to say we're just going to have a bureaucratic mess that nobody has any confidence and leaves people in limbo potentially for years so lets get people to live just from taxpayers money.
* Yes its been changed since to make it easier (but still difficult) to get right of work after 12 months but how bad is it that is considered necessary?
That's polling over a year before election day. In a real race Trump will beat Sanders. Sanders can't carry enough middle-class affluent states with his high tax agenda, states that would normally be voting Democrat. Without the white collar middle class the Democrats won't be able to win the election. Liberal college graduates, blacks, hispanics and single women aren't enough to carry 270 EC votes.
So what, on that basis Trump would be at real risk of losing. I could certainly see a scenario where Sanders swept the North East and West Coast and the Upper Mid West plus Iowa and Colorado and New Mexico or Nevada or Ohio to narrowly win. Minorities and women voters now outnumber white men quite comfortably in the US
Trump will appeal beyond white men though, especially if Sanders is the opponent. A high tax Democrat won't carry the affluent New England states, definitely won't carry Ohio and Flordia. The number of Hispanics may also be high in California, New Mexico, Arizona and Nevada, but the number of them that can vote isn't so high.
That's polling over a year before election day. In a real race Trump will beat Sanders. Sanders can't carry enough middle-class affluent states with his high tax agenda, states that would normally be voting Democrat. Without the white collar middle class the Democrats won't be able to win the election. Liberal college graduates, blacks, hispanics and single women aren't enough to carry 270 EC votes.
So what, on that basis Trump would be at real risk of losing. I could certainly see a scenario where Sanders swept the North East and West Coast and the Upper Mid West plus Iowa and Colorado and New Mexico or Nevada or Ohio to narrowly win. Minorities and women voters now outnumber white men quite comfortably in the US
Trump will appeal beyond white men though, especially if Sanders is the opponent. A high tax Democrat won't carry the affluent New England states, definitely won't carry Ohio and Flordia. The number of Hispanics may also be high in California, New Mexico, Arizona and Nevada, but the number of them that can vote isn't so high.
If it were Sanders vs Trump, I think Michael Bloomberg would win :-)
I see the Popes useful idiots are out in force..Who said brainwashing doesn't work..It was Goebbels who said .."Tell a lie often enough and it becomes the truth" If The pope wants to preach extreme frugality to those people who work their socks off to feed their families, then perhaps he could quit his frugal ,fully staffed ,apartment in the Vatican City..move into a fishermans cottage on the shores of Galilee and go catch some fish for his dinner..or STFU
Actually, he did quit the papal apartment as soon as he became Pope:
What about the mountains of gold the Church has? Has it been sold on to donate to give to good causes?
You'll have to be a bit more detailed than that - whilst not a Catholic I suspect they are not to be found wanting in their work or funding for good causes. All I can see are sloppy accusations of hypocrisy where in this case none exists.
Mark 19:21 Jesus answered "if you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then follow me"
The Catholic Church has one of the wealthiest collection of priceless treasures in the world, estimated to be many billions worth, including one of the largest collections of solid gold in the world - counting solid gold ingots the Church owns held in banks and reserves across the globe as well as solid gold in Churches as well as the golden throne the Pope sits on.
Up to you if you want to decide that this is not hypocritical.
I see the Popes useful idiots are out in force..Who said brainwashing doesn't work..It was Goebbels who said .."Tell a lie often enough and it becomes the truth" If The pope wants to preach extreme frugality to those people who work their socks off to feed their families, then perhaps he could quit his frugal ,fully staffed ,apartment in the Vatican City..move into a fishermans cottage on the shores of Galilee and go catch some fish for his dinner..or STFU
Actually, he did quit the papal apartment as soon as he became Pope:
Far right, another branch of Islam or just two idiots?
Unless it was a minority branch of Islam, it's likely to be the Far Right.
A truly terrible act. Everyone should be able to worship without fear of persecution.
Apparently two 16 year olds have been arrested. It is possible that this is just arson rather than a political statement.
As for Mr Dodds, of all the things to criticise the Pope for, his use of a Fiat 500 is possibly the most trivial topic of all. He lives frugally by comparison to previous Popes, Catholic charities - such as CAFOD and others - do a huge amount for the poor, refugees etc and he is using his pulpit to say things - about our long-term stewardship of the earth - which need to be said.
There are things for which he can and should be strongly criticised for: his idiotic and harmful statement after the Charlie Hebdo shootings, for one thing. But Mr Dodds' comments are rather missing the mark, I feel.
That's polling over a year before election day. In a real race Trump will beat Sanders. Sanders can't carry enough middle-class affluent states with his high tax agenda, states that would normally be voting Democrat. Without the white collar middle class the Democrats won't be able to win the election. Liberal college graduates, blacks, hispanics and single women aren't enough to carry 270 EC votes.
So what, on that basis Trump would be at real risk of losing. I could certainly see a scenario where Sanders swept the North East and West Coast and the Upper Mid West plus Iowa and Colorado and New Mexico or Nevada or Ohio to narrowly win. Minorities and women voters now outnumber white men quite comfortably in the US
Trump will appeal beyond white men though, especially if Sanders is the opponent. A high tax Democrat won't carry the affluent New England states, definitely won't carry Ohio and Flordia. The number of Hispanics may also be high in California, New Mexico, Arizona and Nevada, but the number of them that can vote isn't so high.
Really? I see little evidence of it, Trump has even lower ratings with Hispanics than Romney, they are the fastest growing block in the nation and would vote for a donkey against Trump. I would expect Hispanic turnout to be higher than 2012 if Trump is on the ballot. Trump also polls best with working class and lower middle class white men, white graduates may well vote for Sanders over Trump.
LG1982..But the Pope preaches to democratically appointed leaders at the WH and quite a lot at the UN and tellsthem how to govern....then he goes and has a nice prayer..no responsibility whatsoever..Job done
Luckyguy1983..1.3 billion followers of the Catholic Church .. only two hundred people got to vote for the pope ..literally the ultimate Old Boys Network.... Democracy in action..
As Lucky Guy has said, the Catholic Church has never claimed to be a democracy. But isn't this marginally more democratic than, say, the CoE?
Far right, another branch of Islam or just two idiots?
14 & 16 years old.. whatever their motive they would be children, just like the girls that ran off to join ISIS, wouldn't they?
People in their mid-teens are perfectly capable of knowing that burning down places is wrong. People could have died. If they are convicted, I hope they spend a long time behind bars.
I see the Popes useful idiots are out in force..Who said brainwashing doesn't work..It was Goebbels who said .."Tell a lie often enough and it becomes the truth" If The pope wants to preach extreme frugality to those people who work their socks off to feed their families, then perhaps he could quit his frugal ,fully staffed ,apartment in the Vatican City..move into a fishermans cottage on the shores of Galilee and go catch some fish for his dinner..or STFU
Actually, he did quit the papal apartment as soon as he became Pope:
What about the mountains of gold the Church has? Has it been sold on to donate to give to good causes?
You'll have to be a bit more detailed than that - whilst not a Catholic I suspect they are not to be found wanting in their work or funding for good causes. All I can see are sloppy accusations of hypocrisy where in this case none exists.
Mark 19:21 Jesus answered "if you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then follow me"
The Catholic Church has one of the wealthiest collection of priceless treasures in the world, estimated to be many billions worth, including one of the largest collections of solid gold in the world - counting solid gold ingots the Church owns held in banks and reserves across the globe as well as solid gold in Churches as well as the golden throne the Pope sits on.
Up to you if you want to decide that this is not hypocritical.
All those priceless treasures by Bernini and Michelangelo and others are on public view to millions. Would we be better off if they were sold to some Russian billionaire, locked away by a Japanese billionaire (as happened to a Van Gogh) or squirrelled away in a Qatari museum?
Luckyguy1983..1.3 billion followers of the Catholic Church .. only two hundred people got to vote for the pope ..literally the ultimate Old Boys Network.... Democracy in action..
As Lucky Guy has said, the Catholic Church has never claimed to be a democracy. But isn't this marginally more democratic than, say, the CoE?
The Archbishop of Canterbury is appointed by the democratically-elected Prime Minister. Lucky Guy is correct. The Pope is chosen by a council of people handpicked by his predecessor. And as a result the man gets complete authority over the entire church, based on a mistranslation of a single Bible verse. It is a very oligarchic system.
Far right, another branch of Islam or just two idiots?
14 & 16 years old.. whatever their motive they would be children, just like the girls that ran off to join ISIS, wouldn't they?
People in their mid-teens are perfectly capable of knowing that burning down places is wrong. People could have died. If they are convicted, I hope they spend a long time behind bars.
Let's not jump ahead of ourselves. They haven't been charged yet.
Cyclefree Why does someone elected by his 200 hundred close associates think he has the right to tell Democratically elected leaders how to do their job..it is up to their electorates to tell them..and then they can democratically vote them out if not satisfied..the arrogance of the church is simply astounding
I see the Popes useful idiots are out in force..Who said brainwashing doesn't work..It was Goebbels who said .."Tell a lie often enough and it becomes the truth" If The pope wants to preach extreme frugality to those people who work their socks off to feed their families, then perhaps he could quit his frugal ,fully staffed ,apartment in the Vatican City..move into a fishermans cottage on the shores of Galilee and go catch some fish for his dinner..or STFU
Actually, he did quit the papal apartment as soon as he became Pope:
What about the mountains of gold the Church has? Has it been sold on to donate to give to good causes?
You'll have to be a bit more detailed than that - whilst not a Catholic I suspect they are not to be found wanting in their work or funding for good causes. All I can see are sloppy accusations of hypocrisy where in this case none exists.
Mark 19:21 Jesus answered "if you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then follow me"
The Catholic Church has one of the wealthiest collection of priceless treasures in the world, estimated to be many billions worth, including one of the largest collections of solid gold in the world - counting solid gold ingots the Church owns held in banks and reserves across the globe as well as solid gold in Churches as well as the golden throne the Pope sits on.
Up to you if you want to decide that this is not hypocritical.
All those priceless treasures by Bernini and Michelangelo and others are on public view to millions. Would we be better off if they were sold to some Russian billionaire, locked away by a Japanese billionaire (as happened to a Van Gogh) or squirrelled away in a Qatari museum?
All of those treasures are on public view are they? Are you certain about that, all of the billions in solid gold that the Catholic Church owns are on public view?
I'm sure that matches Mark 19:21, if you want to be perfect go put billions into gold in banks across the globe and leave those banks in public view. That matches selling your possessions.
That's polling over a year before election day. In a real race Trump will beat Sanders. Sanders can't carry enough middle-class affluent states with his high tax agenda, states that would normally be voting Democrat. Without the white collar middle class the Democrats won't be able to win the election. Liberal college graduates, blacks, hispanics and single women aren't enough to carry 270 EC votes.
So what, on that basis Trump would be at real risk of losing. I could certainly see a scenario where Sanders swept the North East and West Coast and the Upper Mid West plus Iowa and Colorado and New Mexico or Nevada or Ohio to narrowly win. Minorities and women voters now outnumber white men quite comfortably in the US
Trump will appeal beyond white men though, especially if Sanders is the opponent. A high tax Democrat won't carry the affluent New England states, definitely won't carry Ohio and Flordia. The number of Hispanics may also be high in California, New Mexico, Arizona and Nevada, but the number of them that can vote isn't so high.
If it were Sanders vs Trump, I think Michael Bloomberg would win :-)
Indeed, he would be my preferred choice in that scenario
Cyclefree Why does someone elected by his 200 hundred close associates think he has the right to tell Democratically elected leaders how to do their job..it is up to their electorates to tell them..and then they can democratically vote them out if not satisfied..the arrogance of the church is simply astounding
As he represents more than 1 billion people, ie more than the combined electorates of the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and Europe put together. In any case he does not tell them, simply offers his advice, politicians cannot ignore the Catholic vote
I see the Popes useful idiots are out in force..Who said brainwashing doesn't work..It was Goebbels who said .."Tell a lie often enough and it becomes the truth" If The pope wants to preach extreme frugality to those people who work their socks off to feed their families, then perhaps he could quit his frugal ,fully staffed ,apartment in the Vatican City..move into a fishermans cottage on the shores of Galilee and go catch some fish for his dinner..or STFU
Actually, he did quit the papal apartment as soon as he became Pope:
What about the mountains of gold the Church has? Has it been sold on to donate to give to good causes?
You'll have to be a bit more detailed than that - whilst not a Catholic I suspect they are not to be found wanting in their work or funding for good causes. All I can see are sloppy accusations of hypocrisy where in this case none exists.
Mark 19:21 Jesus answered "if you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then follow me"
The Catholic Church has one of the wealthiest collection of priceless treasures in the world, estimated to be many billions worth, including one of the largest collections of solid gold in the world - counting solid gold ingots the Church owns held in banks and reserves across the globe as well as solid gold in Churches as well as the golden throne the Pope sits on.
Up to you if you want to decide that this is not hypocritical.
Jesus also told the parable of the talents and the Good Samaritan, and as Mrs Thatcher said if the Good Samaritan did not have any wealth to begin with he would have been of no use to anyone
Cyclefree Why does someone elected by his 200 hundred close associates think he has the right to tell Democratically elected leaders how to do their job..it is up to their electorates to tell them..and then they can democratically vote them out if not satisfied..the arrogance of the church is simply astounding
Anyone can give their opinion. They are not obliged to listen to or follow his advice.
There is value in hearing from a range of views with their different perspectives. What's wrong with having a diversity of opinions expressed in the public space?
I see the Popes useful idiots are out in force..Who said brainwashing doesn't work..It was Goebbels who said .."Tell a lie often enough and it becomes the truth" If The pope wants to preach extreme frugality to those people who work their socks off to feed their families, then perhaps he could quit his frugal ,fully staffed ,apartment in the Vatican City..move into a fishermans cottage on the shores of Galilee and go catch some fish for his dinner..or STFU
Actually, he did quit the papal apartment as soon as he became Pope:
Cyclefree..you would have to rip out the ceilings and walls of the Vatican if those paintings were to be sold off to Russians and Japanese.. but the proceeds could be used to feed the next generation of African and South American starving cathoiic kids .. the ones the Popes said they should have..
Jesus also told the parable of the talents and the Good Samaritan, and as Mrs Thatcher said if the Good Samaritan did not have any wealth to begin with he would have been of no use to anyone
What's a little hypocrisy between friends then? I'm sure golden thrones and golden chalices etc are very useful.
I see the Popes useful idiots are out in force..Who said brainwashing doesn't work..It was Goebbels who said .."Tell a lie often enough and it becomes the truth" If The pope wants to preach extreme frugality to those people who work their socks off to feed their families, then perhaps he could quit his frugal ,fully staffed ,apartment in the Vatican City..move into a fishermans cottage on the shores of Galilee and go catch some fish for his dinner..or STFU
Actually, he did quit the papal apartment as soon as he became Pope:
Cyclefree..you would have to rip out the ceilings and walls of the Vatican if those paintings were to be sold off to Russians and Japanese.. but the proceeds could be used to feed the next generation of African and South American starving cathoiic kids .. the ones the Popes said they should have..
The Catholic Church already has CAFOD and charities which do that, most of those paintings are on display in the Sistine Chapel and the Vatican Museums, they may not be in private collections
What about the mountains of gold the Church has? Has it been sold on to donate to give to good causes?
You'll have to be a bit more detailed than that - whilst not a Catholic I suspect they are not to be found wanting in their work or funding for good causes. All I can see are sloppy accusations of hypocrisy where in this case none exists.
Mark 19:21 Jesus answered "if you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then follow me"
The Catholic Church has one of the wealthiest collection of priceless treasures in the world, estimated to be many billions worth, including one of the largest collections of solid gold in the world - counting solid gold ingots the Church owns held in banks and reserves across the globe as well as solid gold in Churches as well as the golden throne the Pope sits on.
Up to you if you want to decide that this is not hypocritical.
All those priceless treasures by Bernini and Michelangelo and others are on public view to millions. Would we be better off if they were sold to some Russian billionaire, locked away by a Japanese billionaire (as happened to a Van Gogh) or squirrelled away in a Qatari museum?
All of those treasures are on public view are they? Are you certain about that, all of the billions in solid gold that the Catholic Church owns are on public view?
I'm sure that matches Mark 19:21, if you want to be perfect go put billions into gold in banks across the globe and leave those banks in public view. That matches selling your possessions.
No - I said priceless treasures by various artists. Gold bars are not, to my knowledge, on public view, having no artistic merit whatsoever, I imagine. They will be stored as an asset, against which money can be borrowed to be used for good works etc, like any other asset. Though I don't have any inside knowledge as to how the accounts work I should add.
One good thing this current Pope has done has been to start the process of clearing up the IOR ( the Vatican Bank) which has been a nest of vipers for far too long.
Jesus also told the parable of the talents and the Good Samaritan, and as Mrs Thatcher said if the Good Samaritan did not have any wealth to begin with he would have been of no use to anyone
What's a little hypocrisy between friends then? I'm sure golden thrones and golden chalices etc are very useful.
You do not help the poor by destroying the Vatican
I see the Popes useful idiots are out in force..Who said brainwashing doesn't work..It was Goebbels who said .."Tell a lie often enough and it becomes the truth" If The pope wants to preach extreme frugality to those people who work their socks off to feed their families, then perhaps he could quit his frugal ,fully staffed ,apartment in the Vatican City..move into a fishermans cottage on the shores of Galilee and go catch some fish for his dinner..or STFU
Actually, he did quit the papal apartment as soon as he became Pope:
It always did contain offices, that has probably not changed since his staff will need desks so work and the pope will still need his office. He is living in a suite in a block of Vatican guesthouses when he is not touring the world.
I see the Popes useful idiots are out in force..Who said brainwashing doesn't work..It was Goebbels who said .."Tell a lie often enough and it becomes the truth" If The pope wants to preach extreme frugality to those people who work their socks off to feed their families, then perhaps he could quit his frugal ,fully staffed ,apartment in the Vatican City..move into a fishermans cottage on the shores of Galilee and go catch some fish for his dinner..or STFU
Actually, he did quit the papal apartment as soon as he became Pope:
It always did contain offices, that has probably not changed since his staff will need desks so work and the pope will still need his office. He is living in a suite in a block of Vatican guesthouses when he is not touring the world.
Jesus also told the parable of the talents and the Good Samaritan, and as Mrs Thatcher said if the Good Samaritan did not have any wealth to begin with he would have been of no use to anyone
What's a little hypocrisy between friends then? I'm sure golden thrones and golden chalices etc are very useful.
You do not help the poor by destroying the Vatican
I agree. Encouraging birth control might help. As would supporting capitalism and democracy. He might call upon despots to either resign or be condemned to the circles of hell.
One of the Sky Reviewers today was very good on the migrant crisis. He mentioned that we can help 20 more refugees in the Syrian camps than here for the same money. It's so obviously the right approach when you think about it like that.
It was an older chap with glasses. I think they mentioned the names Peter Byrne and Tom Bray at the end, but not sure which was which.
That’s all very well, and obviously true, but thousands of people have arrived in Europe already.
Then take them back.
You cannot be serious.
I would load them all on boats and take them back or stick them in camps on a deserted island. Need to stop the flow of economic immigrants coming in. Most of them are not from Syria. Every time you see anything on television is it majority of young men and very few if any are Syrian.
Luckyguy1983..1.3 billion followers of the Catholic Church .. only two hundred people got to vote for the pope ..literally the ultimate Old Boys Network.... Democracy in action..
Nearly as bad as the UK old boy network, but long way to go.
Jesus also told the parable of the talents and the Good Samaritan, and as Mrs Thatcher said if the Good Samaritan did not have any wealth to begin with he would have been of no use to anyone
What's a little hypocrisy between friends then? I'm sure golden thrones and golden chalices etc are very useful.
You do not help the poor by destroying the Vatican
I agree. Encouraging birth control might help. As would supporting capitalism and democracy. He might call upon despots to either resign or be condemned to the circles of hell.
I don't think he has ever supported communism or opposed democracy
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Far right, another branch of Islam or just two idiots?
The batshit crazy rule that asylum seekers would be allowed to stay in the country but denied the right to work was introduced in 2002 as a typically stupid Labour Party response to media stories back then.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/the-pope/10086876/Pope-Francis-shunned-official-papal-apartments-to-live-normal-life.html
The rule you are talking about was one of the sensible things Labour did. After a couple of years for the news to get out, it successfully cut asylum applications here. It was obviously a mistake to say to the world's poor "if you get to the UK, you can earn several years salary in a few months even if your claim is illegitimate".
A truly terrible act. Everyone should be able to worship without fear of persecution.
The smart but difficult decision would be to resolve the flaws in the process so that it just takes weeks or not many months to resolve cases and lead to a speedy new start to life or deportation as the case may be.
The stupid and typically Brownian mess is to say we're just going to have a bureaucratic mess that nobody has any confidence and leaves people in limbo potentially for years so lets get people to live just from taxpayers money.
* Yes its been changed since to make it easier (but still difficult) to get right of work after 12 months but how bad is it that is considered necessary?
The Catholic Church has one of the wealthiest collection of priceless treasures in the world, estimated to be many billions worth, including one of the largest collections of solid gold in the world - counting solid gold ingots the Church owns held in banks and reserves across the globe as well as solid gold in Churches as well as the golden throne the Pope sits on.
Up to you if you want to decide that this is not hypocritical.
https://christianspooksite.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/funny-pope-vatican-gold-evil.jpg?w=460
As for Mr Dodds, of all the things to criticise the Pope for, his use of a Fiat 500 is possibly the most trivial topic of all. He lives frugally by comparison to previous Popes, Catholic charities - such as CAFOD and others - do a huge amount for the poor, refugees etc and he is using his pulpit to say things - about our long-term stewardship of the earth - which need to be said.
There are things for which he can and should be strongly criticised for: his idiotic and harmful statement after the Charlie Hebdo shootings, for one thing. But Mr Dodds' comments are rather missing the mark, I feel.
You are also obviously wrong on the states too, CNN yesterday had Sanders beating Trump 57% to 37% in New Hampshire, a state George W Bush won in 2000 even when he lost the popular vote to Al Gore.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/nh/new_hampshire_trump_vs_sanders-5668.html
I'm sure that matches Mark 19:21, if you want to be perfect go put billions into gold in banks across the globe and leave those banks in public view. That matches selling your possessions.
There is value in hearing from a range of views with their different perspectives. What's wrong with having a diversity of opinions expressed in the public space?
http://www.itv.com/news/border/2015-03-12/what-is-the-ahmadiyya-muslim-community/
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One good thing this current Pope has done has been to start the process of clearing up the IOR ( the Vatican Bank) which has been a nest of vipers for far too long.
He is living in a suite in a block of Vatican guesthouses when he is not touring the world.
Encouraging birth control might help. As would supporting capitalism and democracy. He might call upon despots to either resign or be condemned to the circles of hell.