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  • DairDair Posts: 6,108

    Dair.. I was neither gullible then and am not greedy now The payment was not an option ..it was deducted from your paycheck..and if the same money had been invested by myself then the return would have been much greater than the measly 7 k I get now..What a smart arse you are and apparent;ly you have no idea how the system works.. no one believed the money was set aside... of course it was used by the gov of the day

    But that is exactly what makes your generation so gullible (and greedy for insisting the rest of us now pay for your gullibility).

    An investment vehicle which takes your money, spends it now and doesn't invest anything, promising a return out of future revenues has a name.

    It is called a Ponzi scheme.
  • SeanT said:

    Pong.. Do you really want a Pres or PM who follows a murderous religion, to have his finger on the button, and is running a basically christian belief country..Only an idiot would trust such a person
    .You must always remember that one of the basic tenets and a major principle of Islam is to kill,by any and all means possible,all non believers..got that... ALL NON BELIEVERS..Fun eh.

    Do you have a credible source for that?

    And if it were true, how come the several million muslims in Britain haven't acted on it during the decades they've been here?

    Or is it just your own twisted and prejudiced view of the world?
    Oh give over, you virtue signalling halfwit. It's not paranoid to be deeply suspicious of Islamic beliefs, as all of Islam is convulsed by a war of Fundamentalism, which has killed millions already, and which, in the form of ISIS (towards whom 27% of British Muslims feel sympathy) is sworn to kill us all.

    Tool.
    You're in a sprightly mood this evening.

    Certainly there is a deeply dangerous - and worryingly large - strain of jihadist Islam. But to infer from that, as Richard does, that every muslim is out to kill everyone else is paranoid babble.

    That's not to say that reasonable precautions shouldn't be taken; it is to say that we shouldn't get het up in some kind of witchhunt.
  • viewcode said:

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/20/politics/carly-fiorina-donald-trump-republican-2016-poll/index.html

    Latest GOP Poll:

    Trump 24%
    Fiorina 15%
    Carson 14%
    Rubio 11%
    Bush 9%

    Anyone still think Fiorina is running for VP?

    Can we just agree that Carly has the best name? "Madame President Fiorina" sounds wicked cool. "President Trump" just sounds like a fart.
    Fiorina ("Fury") 161 was the Prison Planet in Alien 3 :)
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
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  • EPGEPG Posts: 6,739
    SeanT said:

    The derisory turnout shows that Greeks haven't "voted for Syriza", they've voted for "oh, fuck this, it doesn't matter, Brussels rules us whatever we do"

    And so democracy dies, in the cradle of democracy.

    What was the democratic option, then? Golden Dawn?
  • Tsipras settled for the Drachma and the Greek people have backed that decision.

    "Madness...? This is SYRIZA!"

  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,102
    EPG said:

    SeanT said:

    The derisory turnout shows that Greeks haven't "voted for Syriza", they've voted for "oh, fuck this, it doesn't matter, Brussels rules us whatever we do"

    And so democracy dies, in the cradle of democracy.

    What was the democratic option, then? Golden Dawn?
    What a pity such a party gets the coolest name of the various parties on display.
  • 5.5 % is excellent for KKE and is a vote for inclusive politics.The 7.29% for Golden Dawn is still too high but indicates they are on the way down in the Greek peoples' minds.There is plenty of evidence they are are paramilitary neo-nazi group and must face the full force of the law for Menolata #bloodstrawberries,the mass murder of immigrants and the murder of #KillahP,the anti-fascist rapper murdered by Golden Dawn whose anniversary sparked riots amongst anti-fasicts in Athens this week.Until austerity ends this particular monster will always exist.
  • RodCrosby said:

    0.10

    3.14159265359

    ?

  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,102
    viewcode said:

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/20/politics/carly-fiorina-donald-trump-republican-2016-poll/index.html

    Latest GOP Poll:

    Trump 24%
    Fiorina 15%
    Carson 14%
    Rubio 11%
    Bush 9%

    Anyone still think Fiorina is running for VP?

    Can we just agree that Carly has the best name? "Madame President Fiorina" sounds wicked cool. "President Trump" just sounds like a fart.
    I think that also rules out anyone whose last name is also a first name, personally. 'President Paul' sounds awfully chummy for a president.
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108
    scotslass said:

    HYUFD

    The Comres sub sample swing was 3 per cent TO the SNP - SNP DOWN 1, LABOUR DOWN 7.

    The only full Westminster Scottish poll I have seen since the election is Survation in July which showed the SNP at 51 (up 1) and Labour at 21 (down 3). However, there have been no less than 8 Holyrood polls from Survation, MORI, YouGov and TNS. They show the SNP at an average of 57 and Labour an average of 21!

    YouGov in September showed the SNP at the lowest on 51 and the most recent was Survation showing the SNP on 53% to Labour on 23!

    None of this evidence supports your argument.

    You're trying to argue with someone who is quite deliberately ignoring facts, logic and sense.

    It is a pointless task.
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108
    Is there a live link for Greek election updates?
  • Charles said:

    ydoethur said:

    Lawson did though have one of the great titles for his memoirs - The View from Number 11. That's got to be up there with Butler's The Art of the Possible and the grand-daddy of them all, Geoffrey Howe's Conflict of Loyalty. It's sad that clever titles have gone so far out of fashion that Blair thought the mind-numbingly twee A Journey was suitable for his memoirs.

    Mandelson's The Third Man wasn't a bad title.
    'My Early Life'; which ended l believe '...lived happily ever after'
    I always liked "This Sparrow's Flight' - requisite humility for a politician faced by the great leveller
    A Sparrow's Flight.

    One of the best political memoirs I've read, for what it's worth.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 55,629
    EPG said:

    SeanT said:

    The derisory turnout shows that Greeks haven't "voted for Syriza", they've voted for "oh, fuck this, it doesn't matter, Brussels rules us whatever we do"

    And so democracy dies, in the cradle of democracy.

    What was the democratic option, then? Golden Dawn?
    FWIW

    According to Greek friends there was a considerable element of "At least they told us the truth - we couldn't get anything more from the EU." behind the survival of Syriza...
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Peoples Union up to 2.85%, but probably still won't make it.
    If they do, the coalition would only have a majority of 2...
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
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    RodCrosby said:

    0.10

    3.14159265359

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    Hungary?
  • EPGEPG Posts: 6,739

    EPG said:

    SeanT said:

    The derisory turnout shows that Greeks haven't "voted for Syriza", they've voted for "oh, fuck this, it doesn't matter, Brussels rules us whatever we do"

    And so democracy dies, in the cradle of democracy.

    What was the democratic option, then? Golden Dawn?
    FWIW

    According to Greek friends there was a considerable element of "At least they told us the truth - we couldn't get anything more from the EU." behind the survival of Syriza...
    Yeah, that's reasonable. They did not tell the truth last time but there was a greater receptiveness to anti-Europe poseurs before Greece tried to run its banking sector based on depositors' trust in their government. Now they are Very Serious People who will agree to European demands, which is the majority position in Greece.
  • kle4 said:

    EPG said:

    SeanT said:

    The derisory turnout shows that Greeks haven't "voted for Syriza", they've voted for "oh, fuck this, it doesn't matter, Brussels rules us whatever we do"

    And so democracy dies, in the cradle of democracy.

    What was the democratic option, then? Golden Dawn?
    What a pity such a party gets the coolest name of the various parties on display.
    Golden Dawn are a total shower.
  • EPGEPG Posts: 6,739
    kle4 said:

    EPG said:

    SeanT said:

    The derisory turnout shows that Greeks haven't "voted for Syriza", they've voted for "oh, fuck this, it doesn't matter, Brussels rules us whatever we do"

    And so democracy dies, in the cradle of democracy.

    What was the democratic option, then? Golden Dawn?
    What a pity such a party gets the coolest name of the various parties on display.
    Sendero Luminoso and the Khmer Rouge pose a similar moral dilemma.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,736
    edited September 2015
    New thread new thread
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    Charles said:

    ydoethur said:

    Lawson did though have one of the great titles for his memoirs - The View from Number 11. That's got to be up there with Butler's The Art of the Possible and the grand-daddy of them all, Geoffrey Howe's Conflict of Loyalty. It's sad that clever titles have gone so far out of fashion that Blair thought the mind-numbingly twee A Journey was suitable for his memoirs.

    Mandelson's The Third Man wasn't a bad title.
    'My Early Life'; which ended l believe '...lived happily ever after'
    I always liked "This Sparrow's Flight' - requisite humility for a politician faced by the great leveller
    A Sparrow's Flight.

    One of the best political memoirs I've read, for what it's worth.
    I've never made it past chapter 9. Too many memories.
  • david_herdsondavid_herdson Posts: 18,351
    edited September 2015
    SeanT said:

    SeanT said:

    Pong.. Do you really want a Pres or PM who follows a murderous religion, to have his finger on the button, and is running a basically christian belief country..Only an idiot would trust such a person
    .You must always remember that one of the basic tenets and a major principle of Islam is to kill,by any and all means possible,all non believers..got that... ALL NON BELIEVERS..Fun eh.

    Do you have a credible source for that?

    And if it were true, how come the several million muslims in Britain haven't acted on it during the decades they've been here?

    Or is it just your own twisted and prejudiced view of the world?
    Oh give over, you virtue signalling halfwit. It's not paranoid to be deeply suspicious of Islamic beliefs, as all of Islam is convulsed by a war of Fundamentalism, which has killed millions already, and which, in the form of ISIS (towards whom 27% of British Muslims feel sympathy) is sworn to kill us all.

    Tool.
    You're in a sprightly mood this evening.

    Certainly there is a deeply dangerous - and worryingly large - strain of jihadist Islam. But to infer from that, as Richard does, that every muslim is out to kill everyone else is paranoid babble.

    That's not to say that reasonable precautions shouldn't be taken; it is to say that we shouldn't get het up in some kind of witchhunt.
    OK I'll give you the S K Tremayne Are You A Cretin question.

    Do you believe there is a maximum percentage Muslim population beyond which, as things stand, we should not stray, as it will endanger our liberal values as we know them?

    I do believe that (as I've said before). It is 10%, and even that is menacingly high.

    Ask this of a lefty and they will scream racist (as you do), but that is because they are cretins. And moral cowards.
    There is a maximum figure but what it is depends on the culture of Islam held. Communities with a background in a secular country like Turkey are more readily integrated than those from a theocracy or those where tribal and family loyalties outweigh respect for the state and law.

    I don't know precisely what the figure is - nor what we could do about it were we already over it - but I do think that it would be wise to immigration from Islamic countries to a practical minimum.

    And it is racist (or religionist or whatever) to expect an extreme action from an individual solely on the basis of the religion held when the evidence doesn't support that belief.

    (I'm afraid I can't reply further - dinner calls).
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 128,882
    scotslass said:

    HYUFD

    The Comres sub sample swing was 3 per cent TO the SNP - SNP DOWN 1, LABOUR DOWN 7.

    The only full Westminster Scottish poll I have seen since the election is Survation in July which showed the SNP at 51 (up 1) and Labour at 21 (down 3). However, there have been no less than 8 Holyrood polls from Survation, MORI, YouGov and TNS. They show the SNP at an average of 57 and Labour an average of 21!

    YouGov in September showed the SNP at the lowest on 51 and the most recent was Survation showing the SNP on 53% to Labour on 23!

    None of this evidence supports your argument.

    Utter rubbish as not one of those polls was taken before Corbyn was elected leader. You also fail to mention the Tories were above 20% with Comres in Scotland
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 128,882
    Dair said:

    scotslass said:

    HYUFD

    The Comres sub sample swing was 3 per cent TO the SNP - SNP DOWN 1, LABOUR DOWN 7.

    The only full Westminster Scottish poll I have seen since the election is Survation in July which showed the SNP at 51 (up 1) and Labour at 21 (down 3). However, there have been no less than 8 Holyrood polls from Survation, MORI, YouGov and TNS. They show the SNP at an average of 57 and Labour an average of 21!

    YouGov in September showed the SNP at the lowest on 51 and the most recent was Survation showing the SNP on 53% to Labour on 23!

    None of this evidence supports your argument.

    You're trying to argue with someone who is quite deliberately ignoring facts, logic and sense.

    It is a pointless task.
    No facts are quite clear the SNP is down in today's polls
  • A lot different to the Independent Saturday poll of 2000 voters which showed circa 20% of May Labour voters not voting for a Corbyn Labour Party -also the figures revealed well over 68% of DE voters rejecting the Hard Leftist.
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