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If we rewind but a few months, many thought that Labour was heading for government with Ed Miliband as Prime Minister and yet now it is genuinely quite difficult to imagine Labour being in power again.
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I voted Yvette last because she's the only one who's likely to have slept with Ed Balls
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/11849665/Make-no-mistake-Labour-is-at-war-with-itself.html
It would have been better for Ed M to have stayed on and for Labour to have had the debate that Nick Palmer was touching on on the previous thread than go through this farce.
@NickPalmer: I found some of what you said quite interesting. I will give it some thought and come back to you later, if I may. While we disagree on many matters, I do appreciate the fact that you reply to my queries.
We, as a family, have used the same firm since it was established just after WW2 - the founder served with my late father-in-law. The founder has now died (he retired long ago but you know how it is) and we feel that perhaps it is time to make a break and have build a relationship with a firm closer to home. We also have some business that needs to be transacted in relation to wills and, maybe, a trust.
If £250 plus a bit is the going rate, then at least I am forearmed. Thanks.
"It’s also frankly about time that Labour chose a woman to the lead the party. It’s embarrassing that Labour has yet to do so."
Not a fan of that line of thinking, especially given Cooper's own outpouring of identity politics tosh during the campaign.
That said, she'd still be better than Burnham.
As are pee-written-by-you snotty letters, which just need a letterhead and a signature, and very carefully organised files.
The last snotty letter I had written cost £110 5 years ago.
The equation may be 1 day plumber = 1 hour lawyer.
The trouble is that many Lab members and some Lab MPs rather like the idea of the latter.
(Edit: and with Burnham in charge they'd fizzle out well before 2020 and be flat out on the ground by then)
http://www.cpgb-ml.org/index.php?secName=leaflets&subName=display&leafletId=89
Perhaps this is some side effect of time travel into the past. The more one does it the less distance* one goes back.
The conflation of the ideas of distance with time is, of course, in itself worrying but according to a chum of mine, who makes her living as a management-coach, perfectly logical.
http://t.co/dlQJK2vqTz
'it is progressive to call for much stronger enforcement at Calais'
Can't be right as only last week Cooper has calling for the migrants at Calais to be allowed into the UK.
Conhome points out there's evidence that even the government is well to the left of many voters on the issue of Syria.
Goodness knows where that would put labour and the commentariat....
Mr Palmer - there is nothing baffling about pointing out that - at best - you are a simpleton. To the rest of the world you are a shining beacon pointing out why Labour are utterly facile, self serving and not to be trusted or let within a million miles of government.
If we dismiss our opponents as heartless instead of bringing them onto our side, we'll end up like Labour did in the election"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/11848519/This-fragile-pro-refugee-coalition-is-leaving-voters-behind.-We-need-to-take-them-with-us.html
I agree with some posters on here, that there is now a massive disconnect between the broadcasters/political commentators and the general public.
'Good heavens, Mr. Brackenbury, that is expensive to be sure. We are just talking about ordinary family business - wills, probates, deeds, firing off the odd snotty "solicitors' letter", that sort of thing.'
If it's any consolation you normally get the initial discussion (30 minutes) on what you want doing free.
I had some lease extension work done recently and the local solicitors I contacted offered the initial freebie & then were happy to quote a fixed price. Wills & Trusts are also normally done on fixed prices.
But yes - just like the one on Osama bin Ladin.
'She's spinning around like a weathercock. Nothing like an opportunist.'
Seeing if she can spin & be inconsistent as many times as Burnham ?
A couple of the massive cross-channel hovercrafts can be seen in the car park of the nearby hovercraft museum. I'd love to go in one of those if they were ever got running again.
But what we really need in the UK are cross channel Ekranoplans.
http://wiki.vostokwatches.eu/images/assets/ekranoplan02.jpg
I've got my 2011 shadsy voucher still waiting to be dusted off and encashed....
or not.
It's so easy to slag off Eastern European nations as racist. My guess is that if you've had to endure decades of tyranny and ethnic cleansing, you don't feel much of an obligation to open your doors to the world.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/08/opinion/roger-cohen-aylan-kurdis-europe.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&_r=0
"A source said: “Khan was in direct contact with people in the UK who were plotting with him to carry out attacks that would cause mass casualties.” A separate source confirmed these would have included armed assaults on the streset on VJ Day similar to the beach massacre in Tunisia in June where 30 Britons were shot dead while sunbathing. Crowds of Londoners turned out to watch to arrival of VIPs for a church service to commemorate the end of hostilities in 1945."
cf Jezza.
Now more than ever we also need someone who will take on the war mongerers. The future of national security is not dependent on who The Sun or Daily Express decide we should next be bombing.
Over 100,000 people have signed a petition to “stop allowing immigrants into the UK” which was posted to the government and parliament petitions site."
http://www.buzzfeed.com/krishrach/we-spoke-to-the-person-behind-the-stop-allowing-immigrants-i?utm_term=4ldqpia
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/106477
William Hill @sharpeangle
Colin Styring from Melbourne set to win £2500 after £50 @ 50/1 bet in June 2000 with @sharpeangle on Queen to reign longer than Victoria.
I don't think a more peaceful approach is necessarily unacceptable, the problem is that Corbyn appears to be very chummy with people whose interests are often diametrically opposed to our own.
Its nothing new. There have been rational thinking democrats who believe in our country (lets face it to the Corbyns of this world Roy Mason was a traitor) but there have always been the revolutionary fellow travellers aching to take over. The useful idiots look like laying out the red carpet for them this time.
Interestingly Hodges points this out about Corbyn's senior advisor - ''As a senior adviser to Ed Miliband, it was Fletcher who designed the new voting system that is set to deliver Corbyn his against the odds victory.' Job done.
Plus on UNITE man Murray, ''Murray is the man who organised the “spontaneous” oversubscribed public gatherings that characterise Corbynmania.'
Shift to what though...??
If you look back on your student days with regret and longing and hark back to those hazy, drunken, idealistic debates about putting the world to rights...then voting for Jezza will transport you right back to those times.
Stick him in a room with some ISIL nutters and see how quickly he changes his mind.
"Corbyn, by rallying people around his idealistic stances on nationalisation, is drawing attention to consumer concerns about prices more convincingly than the sensible but overly moderate and jellyish Ed Miliband ever could, and this can reap policy dividends even in opposition.
And that's how you win debates in a way that actually changes the law without moral sacrifice.
Ed Miliband's general election campaign, for all its failings, is proof that this is possible."
The pragmatic cosy centrist consensus is being about to get an earthquake. It's not going to be an easy ride. Hell, there are even lots of cosy Labour MPs who are in for a shaking, but the article puts it very well. The political debate in Britain hasn't really advanced for 40 years. Thatcher won it back around 1983/4. Corbyn's about to challenge the status quo and I think that kind of cocksure public schoolboy grin we saw from Osborne yesterday is going to be wiped off a few faces. A massive shift in political debate, and therefore centre, is about to happen.
But that is exactly archetypal student fantasy politics: idealistic theory vs pragmatic reality that the PM (and the LotO) have to consider and act upon. It is playing at politics.
(Welcome, btw!)
I know you aren't really a Tory anyway, just a drama queen. Join us.
But look on the bright side: if this is a new record, it should be broken again over the next 6 months.
Yep. That Escobar post is a keeper...
There are even circumstances in which Corbyn could be PM before 2020 though I'm not betting on it myself. The point is that politics in Britain suddenly got interesting again. There's a hell of a lot of pent up anger dammed up behind Corbyn.
Free market doesn't mean "free for all". Do you not understand the difference?
Labour are making a historical and giant mistake.
The party is damaged whatever and whoever wins, but once Jeremy Corbyn becomes Leader they will really only be talking to their own echo chamber. The electorate won't be listening. Truly the culture of spin that Messers Blair, Mandelson and Campbell pioneered in the 1990s will reap its whirlwind...
"There's a hell of a lot of pent up anger dammed up behind Corbyn."
That would be all the other Labour MPs.
@Charles It's not the PM I'm worried about, its the MoD. Fallon has been sounding a bit over-excited as well.
@Plato I have some sympathy with you over not wanting the discussion to continue. Hard to get the tone right I suppose at the bottom of my angst is a fear that we will stop being careful and proportionate and end up being less like the good guys I hope we are. It may well be necessary to kill terrorists. But I don't want us to enjoy it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen_Smith
They are all secretly Corbynites!
And the more important matter of F1 engines, of course.
@SeanT: fancy swapping your flat in Primrose Hill (borders) for this lovely place?
http://search.knightfrank.co.uk/cho140377
They believe there's a done deal between Ferrari and Red Bull, and that the Lotus-Renault deal is near certain to proceed. Their views on Honda's engine are unprintable.
The enormo-haddock believe that Corbyn would be wise to avoid swimming in open water.
All organised by the democratic centralism of the New Socialist Labour Party.