By the way, anyone who says there isn't a bias against the North from the Establishment - Lancashire has been without clean water for 3 weeks now, yet there's been barely any mention of it in the news.
If it was happening in Surrey, you can bet that the BBC would be clearing their schedules to have rolling coverage on it, and Cameron would be personally ordering in unlimited supplies of water to compensate.
There was an item on it on the radio this morning. Presumably local news has been covering it.
Its been on 5live breakfast quite a bit over the weeks. Honestly, does everyone have to be a victim nowadays? Whaterver happened to stoicism and a stiff upper lip?
It's seems it's moved to Australia,just watching the great Australian General Morshead and his defence of Tobruk.
James Roger Crompton Lupton CBE (born 15 June 1955) is Chairman of Greenhill Europe and Co-Treasurer of the Conservative Party, having donated more than £2,590,935 to the party.[1] He was nominated for a life peerage in August 2015.
James Roger Crompton Lupton CBE (born 15 June 1955) is Chairman of Greenhill Europe and Co-Treasurer of the Conservative Party, having donated more than £2,590,935 to the party.[1] He was nominated for a life peerage in August 2015.
James Roger Crompton Lupton CBE (born 15 June 1955) is Chairman of Greenhill Europe and Co-Treasurer of the Conservative Party, having donated more than £2,590,935 to the party.[1] He was nominated for a life peerage in August 2015.
Impressive man
Yes he is. Have you met him?
donated more than £2,590,935 to the Tory party.
Guess some think thats impressive way of getting a peerage.
Sky's news report on migration from Syria is stunning. They actually have one young guy saying "We just need to get to the nearest village in Germany. Even if the police catch us, they won't send us back." They're also reporting that this is clearly not a peak of the migration - it's the new normal and Hungary is actually expecting numbers to increase.
Angela Merkel wants all of the Middle East to migrate to Germany. She is an utterly useless conservative leader.
Perhaps in twenty years time the CDU/CSU will benefit from "not being the nasty party".
Cameron's positioning is in many ways more stupid: at the same time as more people than ever settle in our country, he is positioning himself as opposed to (or at least "tough on", or "wishes he could be tougher on") them. So when they or their kids start to vote, it isn't the historic and unprecedented generosity of Tory immigration policy - which they have greatly benefited from - which will be forefront in their mind.
20 years from now, the new German voters will be solid supporters of Die Linke.
Why would you just assume that? There's no reason they can't be right wing.
James Roger Crompton Lupton CBE (born 15 June 1955) is Chairman of Greenhill Europe and Co-Treasurer of the Conservative Party, having donated more than £2,590,935 to the party.[1] He was nominated for a life peerage in August 2015.
Impressive man
Yes he is. Have you met him?
donated more than £2,590,935 to the Tory party.
Guess some think thats impressive way of getting a peerage.
You are sick.
Yes, he earned a lot of money. That's because he's quite extraordinarily talented - a legend, in fact.
He could have chosen to spend that money on anything he liked - wine, women, song (actually he does go to the opera a lot!), gambling, yachting, or whatever. He has chosen to spend some of it, and more importantly a lot of his time, in order to do what he thinks will help the country. This is entirely selfless, like most political donations, and is entirely commendable. He'll be a huge asset in the Lords - as I said, he's an extremely impressive guy.
Or do you think someone who had spent a lot of their time and money campaigning for the Labour Party, because they think that helps the country, should be cynically reviled and barred from contributing further in public service in the Lords, just because they have devoted their own time and money to Labour?
James Roger Crompton Lupton CBE (born 15 June 1955) is Chairman of Greenhill Europe and Co-Treasurer of the Conservative Party, having donated more than £2,590,935 to the party.[1] He was nominated for a life peerage in August 2015.
Impressive man
Yes he is. Have you met him?
donated more than £2,590,935 to the Tory party.
Guess some think thats impressive way of getting a peerage.
You are sick.
Yes, he earned a lot of money. That's because he's quite extraordinarily talented - a legend, in fact.
He could have chosen to spend that money on anything he liked - wine, women, song (actually he does go to the opera a lot!), gambling, yachting, or whatever. He has chosen to spend some of it, and more importantly a lot of his time, in order to do what he thinks will help the country. This is entirely selfless, like most political donations, and is entirely commendable. He'll be a huge asset in the Lords - as I said, he's an extremely impressive guy.
Or do you think someone who had spent a lot of their time and money campaigning for the Labour Party, because they think that helps the country, should be cynically reviled and barred from contributing further in public service in the Lords, just because they have devoted their own time and money to Labour?
Among nations with bicameral parliaments, The House of Lords is the only Upper Chamber bigger than its respective Lower Chamber, even before today's events.
Are you trying to break the t'Internet with your repeatative - snidey - jokes? Get a new perspective Sun'; or get a life....
Britain Elects @britainelects 20m20 minutes ago Dearne North (Barnsley) result: LAB - 69.8% (+11.9) UKIP - 12.0% (-25.0) YORK - 9.8% (+9.8) TUSC - 4.7% (+4.7) CON - 3.7% (-1.4)
Jezza bounce
Decent showing for Yorkshire First - if UKIP retreat, if LD don't recover quickly, if English Democrats and numerous right splinter groups of varying civic / street protest bearing prove to be a busted flush, if Greens are too far out, could the existing regionalists in NE/Yorkshire/Cornwall be the next people protest voters turn to and in turn spawn movements elsewhere?
Rich people who give political donations are admirable because they are rich, so much have done something right. It is selfless for rich people to give away their money to parties that help rich people protect their money from taxes.
Unions that give political donations are mainly for people who are not rich, so have failed in life, so their donations are perverting the political process with wrongthink.
Sky's news report on migration from Syria is stunning. They actually have one young guy saying "We just need to get to the nearest village in Germany. Even if the police catch us, they won't send us back." They're also reporting that this is clearly not a peak of the migration - it's the new normal and Hungary is actually expecting numbers to increase.
Angela Merkel wants all of the Middle East to migrate to Germany. She is an utterly useless conservative leader.
Perhaps in twenty years time the CDU/CSU will benefit from "not being the nasty party".
Cameron's positioning is in many ways more stupid: at the same time as more people than ever settle in our country, he is positioning himself as opposed to (or at least "tough on", or "wishes he could be tougher on") them. So when they or their kids start to vote, it isn't the historic and unprecedented generosity of Tory immigration policy - which they have greatly benefited from - which will be forefront in their mind.
20 years from now, the new German voters will be solid supporters of Die Linke.
Why would you just assume that? There's no reason they can't be right wing.
They will probably be right wing. They'll still vote for left wing parties.
Britain Elects @britainelects 20m20 minutes ago Dearne North (Barnsley) result: LAB - 69.8% (+11.9) UKIP - 12.0% (-25.0) YORK - 9.8% (+9.8) TUSC - 4.7% (+4.7) CON - 3.7% (-1.4)
Jezza bounce
Decent showing for Yorkshire First - if UKIP retreat, if LD don't recover quickly, if English Democrats and numerous right splinter groups of varying civic / street protest bearing prove to be a busted flush, if Greens are too far out, could the existing regionalists in NE/Yorkshire/Cornwall be the next people protest voters turn to and in turn spawn movements elsewhere?
Only if there is a sudden evolutionary jump which creates a new breed of winged porcine quadrupeds.
Richard N's loyalty to his friend is fine, as long as he extends the same view to JK Rowling when she gives Labour £1 million. I agree with him that both are selfless acts. But it is a problem that we have a political system where the spending limits are so leaky that such donations are critically important. It's not their fault, but it's a problem just the same.
James Roger Crompton Lupton CBE (born 15 June 1955) is Chairman of Greenhill Europe and Co-Treasurer of the Conservative Party, having donated more than £2,590,935 to the party.[1] He was nominated for a life peerage in August 2015.
Impressive man
Yes he is. Have you met him?
donated more than £2,590,935 to the Tory party.
Guess some think thats impressive way of getting a peerage.
You are sick.
Yes, he earned a lot of money. That's because he's quite extraordinarily talented - a legend, in fact.
He could have chosen to spend that money on anything he liked - wine, women, song (actually he does go to the opera a lot!), gambling, yachting, or whatever. He has chosen to spend some of it, and more importantly a lot of his time, in order to do what he thinks will help the country. This is entirely selfless, like most political donations, and is entirely commendable. He'll be a huge asset in the Lords - as I said, he's an extremely impressive guy.
Or do you think someone who had spent a lot of their time and money campaigning for the Labour Party, because they think that helps the country, should be cynically reviled and barred from contributing further in public service in the Lords, just because they have devoted their own time and money to Labour?
Richard N's loyalty to his friend is fine, as long as he extends the same view to JK Rowling when she gives Labour £1 million. I agree with him that both are selfless acts. But it is a problem that we have a political system where the spending limits are so leaky that such donations are critically important. It's not their fault, but it's a problem just the same.
Sky's news report on migration from Syria is stunning. They actually have one young guy saying "We just need to get to the nearest village in Germany. Even if the police catch us, they won't send us back." They're also reporting that this is clearly not a peak of the migration - it's the new normal and Hungary is actually expecting numbers to increase.
Angela Merkel wants all of the Middle East to migrate to Germany. She is an utterly useless conservative leader.
Perhaps in twenty years time the CDU/CSU will benefit from "not being the nasty party".
Cameron's positioning is in many ways more stupid: at the same time as more people than ever settle in our country, he is positioning himself as opposed to (or at least "tough on", or "wishes he could be tougher on") them. So when they or their kids start to vote, it isn't the historic and unprecedented generosity of Tory immigration policy - which they have greatly benefited from - which will be forefront in their mind.
20 years from now, the new German voters will be solid supporters of Die Linke.
Why would you just assume that? There's no reason they can't be right wing.
They will probably be right wing. They'll still vote for left wing parties.
There's absolutely no reason for that to be certain.
James Roger Crompton Lupton CBE (born 15 June 1955) is Chairman of Greenhill Europe and Co-Treasurer of the Conservative Party, having donated more than £2,590,935 to the party.[1] He was nominated for a life peerage in August 2015.
Impressive man
Yes he is. Have you met him?
donated more than £2,590,935 to the Tory party.
Guess some think thats impressive way of getting a peerage.
You are sick.
Yes, he earned a lot of money. That's because he's quite extraordinarily talented - a legend, in fact.
He could have chosen to spend that money on anything he liked - wine, women, song (actually he does go to the opera a lot!), gambling, yachting, or whatever. He has chosen to spend some of it, and more importantly a lot of his time, in order to do what he thinks will help the country. This is entirely selfless, like most political donations, and is entirely commendable. He'll be a huge asset in the Lords - as I said, he's an extremely impressive guy.
Or do you think someone who had spent a lot of their time and money campaigning for the Labour Party, because they think that helps the country, should be cynically reviled and barred from contributing further in public service in the Lords, just because they have devoted their own time and money to Labour?
Luckily the public just swept to power the party seeking to make voting and Lords reform a priority by giving them ... 8 MPs? Some mistake surely, this is such a popular subject they didn't just get 8 MPs did they?
We all know no-one is ever going to be totally happy with a new Lords intake - and sometimes with more reason than others - but are there are any appointees people are really happy to see have been granted peerages?
Michelle whatshername? Should liven up the politics pages with a few photos...
Per The Times - seven potential Peers were rejected - 5 Con, 1 LD, 1 DUP.
Each party can replace anyone rejected but Cameron only put forward one replacement - so Con got 4 Peers less than they could have done.
Laws was replaced by Stunell so LDs didn't lose out at all.
Seems crazy that Cameron didn't fill up his agreed quota - unless somehow he retains the shortfall in hand and is planning to appoint more people later?
Rich people who give political donations are admirable because they are rich, so much have done something right. It is selfless for rich people to give away their money to parties that help rich people protect their money from taxes.
Unions that give political donations are mainly for people who are not rich, so have failed in life, so their donations are perverting the political process with wrongthink.
James is admirable because he built a very impressive business starting with him and a buddy in a shared office with two phones and a rolodex.
Apols if already reported, but interesting poll from Greece (the reference to "readers" is clearly wrong, though I can't find the full poll or original article online):
Britain Elects @britainelects 20m20 minutes ago Dearne North (Barnsley) result: LAB - 69.8% (+11.9) UKIP - 12.0% (-25.0) YORK - 9.8% (+9.8) TUSC - 4.7% (+4.7) CON - 3.7% (-1.4)
Jezza bounce
Decent showing for Yorkshire First - if UKIP retreat, if LD don't recover quickly, if English Democrats and numerous right splinter groups of varying civic / street protest bearing prove to be a busted flush, if Greens are too far out, could the existing regionalists in NE/Yorkshire/Cornwall be the next people protest voters turn to and in turn spawn movements elsewhere?
Only if there is a sudden evolutionary jump which creates a new breed of winged porcine quadrupeds.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not using one low turnout council result to predict a new SNP here, and really not even a new Plaid, but I don't think it's totally out of the question that such movements could garner enough protest minded voters in locals, Europeans and mayoralties to get a little bit of media attention and momentum if the other protest parties continue their troubles or do not suit / contest a given ward / constituency.
After all, a bit of local branding did OK in Orkney a couple of weeks ago against independents.
It will probably just mean a few more council seats here and there, and the sniff of being competitive for a single seat somewhere in the next Europeans (more probably in the north as Mebyon only compete a small corner of the SW). The list of directly-elected mayors doesn't seem to throw up any great chances - Doncaster's flirtation with ED having been chaotic enough not to try a minor party again for a while, and no independents in likely targets.
The height of ambition for these parties at the moment would be to gain some general recognition from the electorate that they exist and are part of the electoral ecosystem, in that sense putting them on a footing with the Greens. I just think, with protest voters shopping around as successive parties of protest lose their freshness, that such an ambition is not beyond the realms of possibility and that regional parties could at least be on our radar by 2020.
There are some ghastly people appointed to the Lords today. Greg Barker, Douglas Hogg, Anne McIntosh, Andrew Lansley.
Please explain why you consider Douglas Hogg ghastly?
I know him well, and though he can be a cantankerous sod when he wants to, he's a thoroughly decent man.
Agree, I think the whole moat thing was blown out of proportion. He was always a thoughtful contributor to the HoC.
He also never actually claimed for the moat.
What happened was that he tried to reach an agreement with the Fees Office that his annual expenses were way more than the cap (which they were) and therefore they should pay him the maximum amount on a monthly basis without having to fill in the paperwork. He provided a list of the sorts of things that he had to spend money on - including the moat cleaning - as examples. In fact, the salaries of his housekeeper/gardener couple pushed him over the limit on their own.
A prat, yes. Foolish, definitely. Corrupt & dishonest: not a jot.
Among nations with bicameral parliaments, The House of Lords is the only Upper Chamber bigger than its respective Lower Chamber, even before today's events.
Are you trying to break the t'Internet with your repeatative - snidey - jokes? Get a new perspective Sun'; or get a life....
I'd be interested to see this on a per capita basis. Of course, we all know bigger is better.. so the Lords is clearly the best second chamber.. in the worrrrllldd!
So some Lords/Ladies are styled 'Lord X' and others as 'Lord X of Y' - the parliament website explicitly states some should be referred to as the former, others the latter, so why are some to be referred to as Lords of a place, and others not, even where their formal title has them as such*? Personal preference?
*eg Robert Rogers is to be referred to as Lord Lisvane, though he is 'Baron Lisvane, of Blakemere in the County of Herefordshire and of Lisvane in the City and County of Cardiff'
It could be to do with the letters patent which brought their peerage into existence.
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Impressive man
Dearne North (Barnsley) result:
LAB - 69.8% (+11.9)
UKIP - 12.0% (-25.0)
YORK - 9.8% (+9.8)
TUSC - 4.7% (+4.7)
CON - 3.7% (-1.4)
Jezza bounce
Guess some think thats impressive way of getting a peerage.
Yes, he earned a lot of money. That's because he's quite extraordinarily talented - a legend, in fact.
He could have chosen to spend that money on anything he liked - wine, women, song (actually he does go to the opera a lot!), gambling, yachting, or whatever. He has chosen to spend some of it, and more importantly a lot of his time, in order to do what he thinks will help the country. This is entirely selfless, like most political donations, and is entirely commendable. He'll be a huge asset in the Lords - as I said, he's an extremely impressive guy.
Or do you think someone who had spent a lot of their time and money campaigning for the Labour Party, because they think that helps the country, should be cynically reviled and barred from contributing further in public service in the Lords, just because they have devoted their own time and money to Labour?
https://twitter.com/amolrajan/status/637021882584334338
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqZxa0Bkcz0
We would need a second chamber of around 700 in a global parliament...
http://rap.sagepub.com/content/1/1/2053168014528684
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/aug/27/jeremy-corbyns-paper-cup-sells-for-51
Unions that give political donations are mainly for people who are not rich, so have failed in life, so their donations are perverting the political process with wrongthink.
I know him well, and though he can be a cantankerous sod when he wants to, he's a thoroughly decent man.
Each party can replace anyone rejected but Cameron only put forward one replacement - so Con got 4 Peers less than they could have done.
Laws was replaced by Stunell so LDs didn't lose out at all.
Seems crazy that Cameron didn't fill up his agreed quota - unless somehow he retains the shortfall in hand and is planning to appoint more people later?
http://greece.greekreporter.com/2015/08/24/german-poll-tsipras-28-new-democracy-25-lafazanis-8/
After all, a bit of local branding did OK in Orkney a couple of weeks ago against independents.
It will probably just mean a few more council seats here and there, and the sniff of being competitive for a single seat somewhere in the next Europeans (more probably in the north as Mebyon only compete a small corner of the SW). The list of directly-elected mayors doesn't seem to throw up any great chances - Doncaster's flirtation with ED having been chaotic enough not to try a minor party again for a while, and no independents in likely targets.
The height of ambition for these parties at the moment would be to gain some general recognition from the electorate that they exist and are part of the electoral ecosystem, in that sense putting them on a footing with the Greens. I just think, with protest voters shopping around as successive parties of protest lose their freshness, that such an ambition is not beyond the realms of possibility and that regional parties could at least be on our radar by 2020.
What happened was that he tried to reach an agreement with the Fees Office that his annual expenses were way more than the cap (which they were) and therefore they should pay him the maximum amount on a monthly basis without having to fill in the paperwork. He provided a list of the sorts of things that he had to spend money on - including the moat cleaning - as examples. In fact, the salaries of his housekeeper/gardener couple pushed him over the limit on their own.
A prat, yes. Foolish, definitely. Corrupt & dishonest: not a jot.