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The different demographic make-up of LAB leadership supporters
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https://twitter.com/cathynewman/status/636538947368300544
Where have they all been hiding since 1979...
Are the Labour Party going to be convincing enough to challenge the electorate and move them towards accepting a truly radical socialist alternative that is intending to throw a lot of settled things in the air?
If it becomes a fully democratic party opening up the decisions to supporters, affiliates and members then it will be very difficult to move the p[arty away from a leftward lurch, a lurch beyond the acceptable borders of leftiness for most of the population.
Then there is a vacuum for some party to fill.
Burglary: In 2012 there were over 7k-8k per month. Year to date in 2015 that's 2k per month down with 5-6k. Down about 30%
Robbery: In 2012 there were over 3k per month. Year to date in 2015 its been around 1800 per month. Down about 40%
Theft: Reporting measurements have changed but around 15000-17000 total thefts per month in 2012. Around 14000 per month this year. Down about 20%
So yes certain types of crime spiked around the London Olympics but are down now.
Source: http://www.ukcrimestats.com/Subdivisions/GLA/2247/
The new Tories will lose voters just like new labour did on immigration.
I'm almost surprised nobody has yet challenged it on Human Rights or racial / cultural grounds
If that's the future of democracy, we're in real trouble.
In their world, everything to the right of the Morning Star is a Red-Tory traitor to the cause. It’s as though they’ve spent their entire lives on social media, glued to echo chambers.
Wake up and smell the coffee.
I suspect many who self-describe as centre could be right-wing economically but self-describe as centre because of that. While for left there is no "shame" in associating with being left.
I would describe my economic views as "very right wing" but I would never call myself "very right wing" or "far right" as that isn't taken to mean economically.
Utility nationalisation: +55%
Wealth redistribution: +56%
Railway Nationalisation: +52%
Less Private sector NHS: +52%
Tuition fees government paid: +27%
No RAF vs ISIS: +27%
Anti-monarchy: +39%
Social Media main news source: +25%
None of these are remotely 'skews' - they have a fundamentally (on the role of the state very markedly so) different view of how Britain should be run.
This is not going to end well.
Room for a 'Peasants Party' somewhere?
Lessons to be learnt from the early Methodsists / Salvation Army and the more modern (1930s) Pentecostals, perhaps?
Are there *any* political movements in this country that have genuinely put down roots in the poorer half of the electorate in the last 40 years?
"Do you agree with the statement 'Immigration controls are racist'?"
http://www.cringechannel.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/11781729_984984731522740_1101953807745063312_n.png
I also mentioned the words poor and poor unskilled immigration.
Nothing like taking power without responsibility, but Ministers shouldn't be frit, frit, frit of the press.
I'm genuinely astonished when I get retweeted something from Owen Jones or Eoin - they've blocked almost I follow, inc a bunch of soft-Lefties.
What level of immigration would you be comfortable with? And how have you reached your conclusion on that?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-34072703
Burnham Supporters: 75%
Cooper Supporters: 60%
Kendall Supporters: 40%
General Public: 10%
Up there with 'no more boom and bust' as a prediction that went wrong
Philip Duffy, chief operating officer of the Border Force, warned there is a "continuous beat" of more arranged attempts to sneak into Britain - and said the gang are plotting to use migrants to commit crimes once they get here.
"There are others who take advantage of less scrupulous hauliers and drivers who will take a fee.
"At the very higher end you've got more organised attempts where you've got some of the organised crime gangs, some of whom are bringing people in to traffic them for criminal activity in the UK.
"They are not just migrants, they are bringing them to the UK for crime."
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/599700/Calais-migrants-smuggling-gang-sneak-Britain-commit-crimes-here
New Lords & Ladies.
Perhaps s/he had always thought you were a myopic bigot, and this was just an excuse to tell you.
Corbynism seems more like a cult, and anything that is negative to it (even mildly) will evoke a strong response. You are challenging the very belief system of the person.
I'm afraid that I just looked at her message and thought Can't You See? He stood in front of a banner of Stalin and Mao in Trafalgar Sq...
All common sense has left the building here.
Ha anyone kept tabs of the voting split of the PB Labourites? Is it just me, NickP and BJO in the Corbyn camp?
The problem is in seeing the people who are able to steer the debate in that direction.
Personally, I'm getting fed up of facebook now. It's mostly adverts and people posting photos of their kids with how proud they are of their latest clothing, smile, laugh, wee, shit, trip, walk, chuck up, bawl, crawl or fall.
Your home will be demolished, you will become a Jezzbollah bridegroom and your books burnt .... (not all bad news then) ....
Before returning the robe, Danny took it to the dry cleaners and was met with Oh, A Santa Costume!
Conservatives: 26 new peers
Labour: 8 new peers
UKIP: 0 new peers
Liberal Democrats: 11 new peers
SNP: 0 new peers
Greens: 0 new peers
The Lords really is a political stitch-up. I can understand why people are turning against the establishment.
19 new Lib/Lab peers.
26 new Con peers.
So the massive block of lib/lab peers who can be a major nuisance for 5 years decreases by just 7...
Also worth thinking about is who would benefit the country the most. A mixture of men/women/families from first world countries would be preferable to uneducated young age men from the third world.
I know of several doctorate level educated people from the US, Australia and Japan who cannot get a visa to come to the UK.
UKIP/Green MP numbers are no bigger than independent MPs.
Cameron will have to consistently win over the bulk of crossbenchers.
>I'm genuinely astonished when I get retweeted something from Owen Jones or Eoin - they've >blocked almost I follow, inc a bunch of soft-Lefties.
I'm a huge fan of Dr Eoin.
He's The Generic Apologist. Everybody else is an apologist for something.
Dr Eoin just gets things wrong and apologises.
http://annaraccoon.com/2013/01/13/the-many-apologies-of-dr-eoin-clarke-phd-plnkr-bf/
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This would encourage more people to vote, particulary young people. It might discourage some elderly from voting but that would be fine. It would help redress the current unfair bias to the elderly in the current system which is corrupting politics and encouraging inter-generational conflict.
I hope JC adds this to his policies.
Our border/security matter to me a lot. HMG are failing very badly on immigration and I'm really irked. Our culture is being changed and I've had enough.
To ask a question or ask for evidence shows, in the eyes of the Left/Far Left, the urgent need for the strong revision and correction of your thought process - you need to be sent away to an improvement camp - same thinking as used in N Korea and under Stalin and Mao.
In reality only accepted members of the Party are allowed any freedom to think (and then only along strictly prescribed lines) - the rest of the people must accept what they are told without question and obey automatically. It is the ultimate crime to question anything that the beloved Leader and party says. Afraid, you will have to be taken to the Tower via traitors' gate and summarily executed as your case is beyond redemption. Then your corpse can be fed to the wild dogs and cats that roam the city.
I'm not saying my mother-in-law is unpopular but she got voted out of parliament and parachuted into the House of Lords.
Cameron and May's problem is the English & Welsh judiciary and their interpretation of thee ECHR rulings. The judiciary either needs re-education or given strict guidelines so that our borders can be safeguarded.
Just out of curiosity, although I know the Stuarts found it handy as a way of rewarding their favourites, what is the argument against nationalising natural monopolies?
I can't see any obvious reason to grant substantial monopoly income to private interests and lots of reason to keep them in public ownership.
I am also old enough to remember when we had substantial public ownership in the UK, and it seemed to work well enough.
If that makes me, and 31% of the rest of the population, insane it would be good to know the reason.
STV: http://news.stv.tv/scotland/1327509-head-of-police-scotland-sir-stephen-house-to-step-down-in-three-months/
Glasgow Evening Times: http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/13630463.Sir_Stephen_House_led_transition_to_single_Scotland_police_force/
Falkirk Herald: http://www.falkirkherald.co.uk/news/local-news/police-chief-to-step-down-1-3870428
Wrong again malcolm......got any oil price forecasts you'd like to share?
Some 45 new peers have been appointed - despite criticism that there are too many already.
The majority of the new appointees are Tories, with the Lib Dems getting 11 and Labour eight.
Senior Labour figures to be elevated include David Blunkett, Alistair Darling and Tessa Jowell.
Among seven former Lib Dem MPs to be ennobled are former leader Sir Menzies Campbell and Sir Alan Beith.
Former Lib Dem ministers Vince Cable and Danny Alexander, who both lost their seats at the general election, are thought to have turned down the chance to enter the Lords.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34072201
When you look around Europe, or the world, which is the country you most want to emulate as far as Visa-free access, etc.?
There are many areas where voting Labour and voting for Corbyn style economics is very popular. I don't agree with them, nor do I agree with others I disagree with. Strange that.
"Think tuition fees should be paid ENTIRELY by government"
The government doesn't have any money, none whatsoever. Its only source of money is to take it from taxpayers, or to borrow it, which ultimately has to be repaid by taxpayers.
I wonder to what extent the responses to such questions would vary, were the same question be differently, yet more honestly framed as follows:
"Think tuition fees should be paid ENTIRELY by taxpayers"