antifrank "Taken as a whole, this looks like a talented intake. There is an undeniable leftward lean to the intake and a relatively narrow set of backgrounds. With very few exceptions these new MPs lack experience in the private sector and interest in the getting rather than the spending aspects of politics."
It looks much much weaker than the 2010 Conservative intake. That IMHO is good news. When 80%+ of people working are in the private sector to have 90%+ of the MPs from the public/union sector is a massive disconnect. Add in the complete inability to win the senior votes and we have a "mere flesh wound" level of problem for Labour.
Losing parties always have a more ideological intake, the 2001 new Tory intake was more rightwing for example and private school educated, ex army, business or finance so it is hardly a surprise the losing Labour intake is more leftwing and from the public sector.
It's interesting to see how sharply younger mens' and womens' opinions diverge, whereas there's no big gender difference among middle-aged and old voters.
Indeed, will be interesting to see if that follows through in future years into later age groups
If the US is anything to go by then marriage and children will see them shift right.
I suspect the cause of the difference is that older men and women are often married to each other, so might sympathise with their points of view a bit more.
My 50th anniversary edition of The Avengers has arrived today, shipped from Amazon UK's facility in Dunfermline on Monday. Weighs about 5lbs, and amazon charged me 3.08 pounds for shipping - what a deal
I realise Cameron doesn't understand the tech himself, but he's been badly advised on this one.
An insane policy if this comes to pass
Almost worthy of Ed Miliband that particular piece of nonsense.
It makes me suspect that this is a piece of media management. 1. Come out with an insane policy that everyone can easily object too. 2. The actual (a bit milder) policy that comes out later gets ignored as the media circus has moved on by then. 3. Everybody carries on as before.
antifrank "Taken as a whole, this looks like a talented intake. There is an undeniable leftward lean to the intake and a relatively narrow set of backgrounds. With very few exceptions these new MPs lack experience in the private sector and interest in the getting rather than the spending aspects of politics."
It looks much much weaker than the 2010 Conservative intake. That IMHO is good news. When 80%+ of people working are in the private sector to have 90%+ of the MPs from the public/union sector is a massive disconnect. Add in the complete inability to win the senior votes and we have a "mere flesh wound" level of problem for Labour.
Losing parties always have a more ideological intake, the 2001 new Tory intake was more rightwing for example and private school educated, ex army, business or finance so it is hardly a surprise the losing Labour intake is more leftwing and from the public sector.
It's interesting to see how sharply younger mens' and womens' opinions diverge, whereas there's no big gender difference among middle-aged and old voters.
Indeed, will be interesting to see if that follows through in future years into later age groups
If the US is anything to go by then marriage and children will see them shift right.
Maybe, but probably not if they work in the public sector. In the US married women tend to be the classic 'Soccer Mom' swing voters Bill Clinton was so good at winning who then switched to Dubya and Obama (at least in 2008)
An interesting bet would be for both Roger Federer and Serena Williams to be Wimbledon champions at the age of 35.
Roger Federer is 33 !
So is Serena. Ian Bell too
Jack Nicklaus won the US Masters at 46!
A touch easier to do in golf, but youth still has a massive advantage.
Bernard Hopkins boxing career in his 40s is remarkable.
Indeed, but he had not won even won PGA event in the 2 years prior to that Major. Even more impressive for a boxer to keep going in their 40s
QUite a few do, even when they shouldn't - but the level he kept up in his 40s was quite remarkable. He should probably retire now, Kovalev beat him well.
Indeed, I think eventually everyone has to accept they have pushed their body beyond its limits once they reach a certain age
antifrank "Taken as a whole, this looks like a talented intake. There is an undeniable leftward lean to the intake and a relatively narrow set of backgrounds. With very few exceptions these new MPs lack experience in the private sector and interest in the getting rather than the spending aspects of politics."
It looks much much weaker than the 2010 Conservative intake. That IMHO is good news. When 80%+ of people working are in the private sector to have 90%+ of the MPs from the public/union sector is a massive disconnect. Add in the complete inability to win the senior votes and we have a "mere flesh wound" level of problem for Labour.
Losing parties always have a more ideological intake, the 2001 new Tory intake was more rightwing for example and private school educated, ex army, business or finance so it is hardly a surprise the losing Labour intake is more leftwing and from the public sector.
It's interesting to see how sharply younger mens' and womens' opinions diverge, whereas there's no big gender difference among middle-aged and old voters.
Indeed, will be interesting to see if that follows through in future years into later age groups
If the US is anything to go by then marriage and children will see them shift right.
Hostility to the entire idea of marriage and children is probably what makes a lot of them Left.
An interesting bet would be for both Roger Federer and Serena Williams to be Wimbledon champions at the age of 35.
Roger Federer is 33 !
So is Serena. Ian Bell too
Jack Nicklaus won the US Masters at 46!
A touch easier to do in golf, but youth still has a massive advantage.
Bernard Hopkins boxing career in his 40s is remarkable.
Indeed, but he had not won even won PGA event in the 2 years prior to that Major. Even more impressive for a boxer to keep going in their 40s
QUite a few do, even when they shouldn't - but the level he kept up in his 40s was quite remarkable. He should probably retire now, Kovalev beat him well.
Indeed, I think eventually everyone has to accept they have pushed their body beyond its limits once they reach a certain age
antifrank "Taken as a whole, this looks like a talented intake. There is an undeniable leftward lean to the intake and a relatively narrow set of backgrounds. With very few exceptions these new MPs lack experience in the private sector and interest in the getting rather than the spending aspects of politics."
It looks much much weaker than the 2010 Conservative intake. That IMHO is good news. When 80%+ of people working are in the private sector to have 90%+ of the MPs from the public/union sector is a massive disconnect. Add in the complete inability to win the senior votes and we have a "mere flesh wound" level of problem for Labour.
Losing parties always have a more ideological intake, the 2001 new Tory intake was more rightwing for example and private school educated, ex army, business or finance so it is hardly a surprise the losing Labour intake is more leftwing and from the public sector.
It's interesting to see how sharply younger mens' and womens' opinions diverge, whereas there's no big gender difference among middle-aged and old voters.
Indeed, will be interesting to see if that follows through in future years into later age groups
If the US is anything to go by then marriage and children will see them shift right.
Maybe, but probably not if they work in the public sector. In the US married women tend to be the classic 'Soccer Mom' swing voters Bill Clinton was so good at winning who then switched to Dubya and Obama (at least in 2008)
Do my eyes deceive me, or did that read "soccer mum" a few minutes ago?
An interesting bet would be for both Roger Federer and Serena Williams to be Wimbledon champions at the age of 35.
Roger Federer is 33 !
So is Serena. Ian Bell too
Jack Nicklaus won the US Masters at 46!
A touch easier to do in golf, but youth still has a massive advantage.
Bernard Hopkins boxing career in his 40s is remarkable.
Indeed, but he had not won even won PGA event in the 2 years prior to that Major. Even more impressive for a boxer to keep going in their 40s
QUite a few do, even when they shouldn't - but the level he kept up in his 40s was quite remarkable. He should probably retire now, Kovalev beat him well.
Indeed, I think eventually everyone has to accept they have pushed their body beyond its limits once they reach a certain age
Very true! I'm 60 in two weeks, last Saturday I had to have emergency laser treatment for a torn retina.
I'm slowly falling apart but very happy to still be here!
An interesting bet would be for both Roger Federer and Serena Williams to be Wimbledon champions at the age of 35.
Roger Federer is 33 !
So is Serena. Ian Bell too
Jack Nicklaus won the US Masters at 46!
A touch easier to do in golf, but youth still has a massive advantage.
Bernard Hopkins boxing career in his 40s is remarkable.
Indeed, but he had not won even won PGA event in the 2 years prior to that Major. Even more impressive for a boxer to keep going in their 40s
QUite a few do, even when they shouldn't - but the level he kept up in his 40s was quite remarkable. He should probably retire now, Kovalev beat him well.
Indeed, I think eventually everyone has to accept they have pushed their body beyond its limits once they reach a certain age
Very true! I'm 60 in two weeks, last Saturday I had to have emergency laser treatment for a torn retina.
I'm slowly falling apart but very happy to still be here!
My daughter keeps telling me not to piss her off as she's the one who'll decide what home I end up in.
antifrank "Taken as a whole, this looks like a talented intake. There is an undeniable leftward lean to the intake and a relatively narrow set of backgrounds. With very few exceptions these new MPs lack experience in the private sector and interest in the getting rather than the spending aspects of politics."
It looks much much weaker than the 2010 Conservative intake. That IMHO is good news. When 80%+ of people working are in the private sector to have 90%+ of the MPs from the public/union sector is a massive disconnect. Add in the complete inability to win the senior votes and we have a "mere flesh wound" level of problem for Labour.
Losing parties always have a more ideological intake, the 2001 new Tory intake was more rightwing for example and private school educated, ex army, business or finance so it is hardly a surprise the losing Labour intake is more leftwing and from the public sector.
It's interesting to see how sharply younger mens' and womens' opinions diverge, whereas there's no big gender difference among middle-aged and old voters.
Indeed, will be interesting to see if that follows through in future years into later age groups
If the US is anything to go by then marriage and children will see them shift right.
Maybe, but probably not if they work in the public sector. In the US married women tend to be the classic 'Soccer Mom' swing voters Bill Clinton was so good at winning who then switched to Dubya and Obama (at least in 2008)
Do my eyes deceive me, or did that read "soccer mum" a few minutes ago?
An interesting bet would be for both Roger Federer and Serena Williams to be Wimbledon champions at the age of 35.
Roger Federer is 33 !
So is Serena. Ian Bell too
Jack Nicklaus won the US Masters at 46!
A touch easier to do in golf, but youth still has a massive advantage.
Bernard Hopkins boxing career in his 40s is remarkable.
Indeed, but he had not won even won PGA event in the 2 years prior to that Major. Even more impressive for a boxer to keep going in their 40s
QUite a few do, even when they shouldn't - but the level he kept up in his 40s was quite remarkable. He should probably retire now, Kovalev beat him well.
Indeed, I think eventually everyone has to accept they have pushed their body beyond its limits once they reach a certain age
A certain Eldrick Tont Woods isn't buying it.
Tiger is only 40 in December, still 6 years to go to match Jack's Masters win!
An interesting bet would be for both Roger Federer and Serena Williams to be Wimbledon champions at the age of 35.
Roger Federer is 33 !
So is Serena. Ian Bell too
Jack Nicklaus won the US Masters at 46!
A touch easier to do in golf, but youth still has a massive advantage.
Bernard Hopkins boxing career in his 40s is remarkable.
Indeed, but he had not won even won PGA event in the 2 years prior to that Major. Even more impressive for a boxer to keep going in their 40s
QUite a few do, even when they shouldn't - but the level he kept up in his 40s was quite remarkable. He should probably retire now, Kovalev beat him well.
Indeed, I think eventually everyone has to accept they have pushed their body beyond its limits once they reach a certain age
Very true! I'm 60 in two weeks, last Saturday I had to have emergency laser treatment for a torn retina.
I'm slowly falling apart but very happy to still be here!
Sorry to hear that Nigel and hope the treatment went OK, you seem to have a positive attitude anyway
How many of the new Labour intake are mums? Isn't that the essential experience to be a prominent politician these days?
Only women can do parenting. Dads have nothing to do with it.
After all, it's not as if any men ever chuck in their jobs to look after the kid (s) whilst their wives put bread on the table.
Prince Philip?
He was a trendsetter. Or given today's news, should that be a fu***ng trendsetter?
(ISTR he had a very promising naval career ahead of him, which he gave up when he marries Lizzie. Or at least a more promising naval career than his eldest son's).
How many of the new Labour intake are mums? Isn't that the essential experience to be a prominent politician these days?
Only women can do parenting. Dads have nothing to do with it.
After all, it's not as if any men ever chuck in their jobs to look after the kid (s) whilst their wives put bread on the table.
Even some former Shadow Chancellors end up as househusbands!
It only really counts if they're looking after the kids from when they're babies. If they're at school they've missed the hard bits (or at least what I presume are the hard bits - they're most certainly the messy bits).
Besides, any sign of a nanny and they're not really doing the job ...
An interesting bet would be for both Roger Federer and Serena Williams to be Wimbledon champions at the age of 35.
Roger Federer is 33 !
So is Serena. Ian Bell too
Jack Nicklaus won the US Masters at 46!
A touch easier to do in golf, but youth still has a massive advantage.
Bernard Hopkins boxing career in his 40s is remarkable.
Indeed, but he had not won even won PGA event in the 2 years prior to that Major. Even more impressive for a boxer to keep going in their 40s
QUite a few do, even when they shouldn't - but the level he kept up in his 40s was quite remarkable. He should probably retire now, Kovalev beat him well.
Indeed, I think eventually everyone has to accept they have pushed their body beyond its limits once they reach a certain age
A certain Eldrick Tont Woods isn't buying it.
Tiger is only 40 in December, still 6 years to go to match Jack's Masters win!
Tiger has had laser eye surgery twice, four operations on his left knee, a broken left leg - not to mention chronic back ailments, achilles tendon problems, and so on. Neither his left leg or his back are - or will probably ever will be - 100%.
In calendar years he may be 40, but thanks to his violent and strenuous golf swing, his leg and back are much older than 40.
Incidentally I was there for Jack's 1986 Masters win - it was my first year on the scoring committee. It was absolute magic.
Why? I really don't get why this is relevant to a OMOV election. Is it simply a substitution for polling? I think it is vanishingly unlikely that the sort of person who turns up to constituency meetings has a huge amount in common with your average member but I may well be wrong.
By the way, as someone coming to this very late can I just add that this is a superb and revealing analysis by antifrank. The gap between the make up of the PLP and modern Britain seems destined to grow wider yet.
How many of the new Labour intake are mums? Isn't that the essential experience to be a prominent politician these days?
Only women can do parenting. Dads have nothing to do with it.
After all, it's not as if any men ever chuck in their jobs to look after the kid (s) whilst their wives put bread on the table.
Even some former Shadow Chancellors end up as househusbands!
It only really counts if they're looking after the kids from when they're babies. If they're at school they've missed the hard bits (or at least what I presume are the hard bits - they're most certainly the messy bits).
Besides, any sign of a nanny and they're not really doing the job ...
True, though I am afraid I have no great expertise on the Balls-Cooper household arrangements
An interesting bet would be for both Roger Federer and Serena Williams to be Wimbledon champions at the age of 35.
Roger Federer is 33 !
So is Serena. Ian Bell too
Jack Nicklaus won the US Masters at 46!
A touch easier to do in golf, but youth still has a massive advantage.
Bernard Hopkins boxing career in his 40s is remarkable.
Indeed, but he had not won even won PGA event in the 2 years prior to that Major. Even more impressive for a boxer to keep going in their 40s
QUite a few do, even when they shouldn't - but the level he kept up in his 40s was quite remarkable. He should probably retire now, Kovalev beat him well.
Indeed, I think eventually everyone has to accept they have pushed their body beyond its limits once they reach a certain age
Very true! I'm 60 in two weeks, last Saturday I had to have emergency laser treatment for a torn retina.
I'm slowly falling apart but very happy to still be here!
Sorry to hear that Nigel and hope the treatment went OK, you seem to have a positive attitude anyway
Thanks, my daughters seem concerned but told them it's only a poxy torn retina, it's not going to kill me. Unless I can't see a bus coming of course.
An interesting bet would be for both Roger Federer and Serena Williams to be Wimbledon champions at the age of 35.
Roger Federer is 33 !
So is Serena. Ian Bell too
Jack Nicklaus won the US Masters at 46!
A touch easier to do in golf, but youth still has a massive advantage.
Bernard Hopkins boxing career in his 40s is remarkable.
Indeed, but he had not won even won PGA event in the 2 years prior to that Major. Even more impressive for a boxer to keep going in their 40s
QUite a few do, even when they shouldn't - but the level he kept up in his 40s was quite remarkable. He should probably retire now, Kovalev beat him well.
Indeed, I think eventually everyone has to accept they have pushed their body beyond its limits once they reach a certain age
A certain Eldrick Tont Woods isn't buying it.
Tiger is only 40 in December, still 6 years to go to match Jack's Masters win!
Tiger has had laser eye surgery twice, four operations on his left knee, a broken left leg - not to mention chronic back ailments, achilles tendon problems, and so on. Neither his left leg or his back are - or will probably ever will be - 100%.
In calendar years he may be 40, but thanks to his violent and strenuous golf swing, his leg and back are much older than 40.
Incidentally I was there for Jack's 1986 Masters win - it was my first year on the scoring committee. It was absolute magic.
Pro wrestlers often find their bodies breakdown before the age of 40 too due to their rampant use of PEDs.
An interesting bet would be for both Roger Federer and Serena Williams to be Wimbledon champions at the age of 35.
Roger Federer is 33 !
So is Serena. Ian Bell too
Jack Nicklaus won the US Masters at 46!
A touch easier to do in golf, but youth still has a massive advantage.
Bernard Hopkins boxing career in his 40s is remarkable.
Indeed, but he had not won even won PGA event in the 2 years prior to that Major. Even more impressive for a boxer to keep going in their 40s
QUite a few do, even when they shouldn't - but the level he kept up in his 40s was quite remarkable. He should probably retire now, Kovalev beat him well.
Indeed, I think eventually everyone has to accept they have pushed their body beyond its limits once they reach a certain age
Very true! I'm 60 in two weeks, last Saturday I had to have emergency laser treatment for a torn retina.
I'm slowly falling apart but very happy to still be here!
Sorry to hear that Nigel and hope the treatment went OK, you seem to have a positive attitude anyway
Thanks, my daughters seem concerned but told them it's only a poxy torn retina, it's not going to kill me. Unless I can't see a bus coming of course.
It's not just buses coming, let's not forget the silent assassins - the Nissan Leaf and the Tesla.
An interesting bet would be for both Roger Federer and Serena Williams to be Wimbledon champions at the age of 35.
Roger Federer is 33 !
So is Serena. Ian Bell too
Jack Nicklaus won the US Masters at 46!
A touch easier to do in golf, but youth still has a massive advantage.
Bernard Hopkins boxing career in his 40s is remarkable.
Indeed, but he had not won even won PGA event in the 2 years prior to that Major. Even more impressive for a boxer to keep going in their 40s
QUite a few do, even when they shouldn't - but the level he kept up in his 40s was quite remarkable. He should probably retire now, Kovalev beat him well.
Indeed, I think eventually everyone has to accept they have pushed their body beyond its limits once they reach a certain age
A certain Eldrick Tont Woods isn't buying it.
Tiger is only 40 in December, still 6 years to go to match Jack's Masters win!
Tiger has had laser eye surgery twice, four operations on his left knee, a broken left leg - not to mention chronic back ailments, achilles tendon problems, and so on. Neither his left leg or his back are - or will probably ever will be - 100%.
In calendar years he may be 40, but thanks to his violent and strenuous golf swing, his leg and back are much older than 40.
Incidentally I was there for Jack's 1986 Masters win - it was my first year on the scoring committee. It was absolute magic.
Indeed, looks like Jack will keep his record then, you were lucky to be there for the win, one of the great sporting moments!
An interesting bet would be for both Roger Federer and Serena Williams to be Wimbledon champions at the age of 35.
Roger Federer is 33 !
So is Serena. Ian Bell too
Jack Nicklaus won the US Masters at 46!
A touch easier to do in golf, but youth still has a massive advantage.
Bernard Hopkins boxing career in his 40s is remarkable.
Indeed, but he had not won even won PGA event in the 2 years prior to that Major. Even more impressive for a boxer to keep going in their 40s
QUite a few do, even when they shouldn't - but the level he kept up in his 40s was quite remarkable. He should probably retire now, Kovalev beat him well.
Indeed, I think eventually everyone has to accept they have pushed their body beyond its limits once they reach a certain age
A certain Eldrick Tont Woods isn't buying it.
Tiger is only 40 in December, still 6 years to go to match Jack's Masters win!
An interesting bet would be for both Roger Federer and Serena Williams to be Wimbledon champions at the age of 35.
Roger Federer is 33 !
So is Serena. Ian Bell too
Jack Nicklaus won the US Masters at 46!
A touch easier to do in golf, but youth still has a massive advantage.
Bernard Hopkins boxing career in his 40s is remarkable.
Indeed, but he had not won even won PGA event in the 2 years prior to that Major. Even more impressive for a boxer to keep going in their 40s
QUite a few do, even when they shouldn't - but the level he kept up in his 40s was quite remarkable. He should probably retire now, Kovalev beat him well.
Indeed, I think eventually everyone has to accept they have pushed their body beyond its limits once they reach a certain age
A certain Eldrick Tont Woods isn't buying it.
Tiger is only 40 in December, still 6 years to go to match Jack's Masters win!
Tiger has had laser eye surgery twice, four operations on his left knee, a broken left leg - not to mention chronic back ailments, achilles tendon problems, and so on. Neither his left leg or his back are - or will probably ever will be - 100%.
In calendar years he may be 40, but thanks to his violent and strenuous golf swing, his leg and back are much older than 40.
Incidentally I was there for Jack's 1986 Masters win - it was my first year on the scoring committee. It was absolute magic.
Pro wrestlers often find their bodies breakdown before the age of 40 too due to their rampant use of PEDs.
Why? I really don't get why this is relevant to a OMOV election. Is it simply a substitution for polling? I think it is vanishingly unlikely that the sort of person who turns up to constituency meetings has a huge amount in common with your average member but I may well be wrong.
The CLP nominations were a reasonably good guide last time; David Miliband narrowly got more nominations.
An interesting bet would be for both Roger Federer and Serena Williams to be Wimbledon champions at the age of 35.
Roger Federer is 33 !
So is Serena. Ian Bell too
Jack Nicklaus won the US Masters at 46!
A touch easier to do in golf, but youth still has a massive advantage.
Bernard Hopkins boxing career in his 40s is remarkable.
Indeed, but he had not won even won PGA event in the 2 years prior to that Major. Even more impressive for a boxer to keep going in their 40s
QUite a few do, even when they shouldn't - but the level he kept up in his 40s was quite remarkable. He should probably retire now, Kovalev beat him well.
Indeed, I think eventually everyone has to accept they have pushed their body beyond its limits once they reach a certain age
Very true! I'm 60 in two weeks, last Saturday I had to have emergency laser treatment for a torn retina.
I'm slowly falling apart but very happy to still be here!
Sorry to hear that Nigel and hope the treatment went OK, you seem to have a positive attitude anyway
Thanks, my daughters seem concerned but told them it's only a poxy torn retina, it's not going to kill me. Unless I can't see a bus coming of course.
Glad you are OK - hope you are feeling fit. However, what caused the torn retina? I'm not being funny (and I'm not knowledgeable) I know of somebody who had a detached retina and then a few days later he died of a stroke like collapse.
An interesting bet would be for both Roger Federer and Serena Williams to be Wimbledon champions at the age of 35.
Roger Federer is 33 !
So is Serena. Ian Bell too
Jack Nicklaus won the US Masters at 46!
A touch easier to do in golf, but youth still has a massive advantage.
Bernard Hopkins boxing career in his 40s is remarkable.
Indeed, but he had not won even won PGA event in the 2 years prior to that Major. Even more impressive for a boxer to keep going in their 40s
QUite a few do, even when they shouldn't - but the level he kept up in his 40s was quite remarkable. He should probably retire now, Kovalev beat him well.
Indeed, I think eventually everyone has to accept they have pushed their body beyond its limits once they reach a certain age
Very true! I'm 60 in two weeks, last Saturday I had to have emergency laser treatment for a torn retina.
I'm slowly falling apart but very happy to still be here!
Sorry to hear that Nigel and hope the treatment went OK, you seem to have a positive attitude anyway
Thanks, my daughters seem concerned but told them it's only a poxy torn retina, it's not going to kill me. Unless I can't see a bus coming of course.
Glad you are OK - hope you are feeling fit. However, what caused the torn retina? I'm not being funny (and I'm not knowledgeable) I know of somebody who had a detached retina and then a few days later he died of a stroke like collapse.
Blimey, thanks for the reassurance!
They don't know what causes it but I suspect it happened a few months ago, I've had blurred vision and flashing lights for a while now, for a time I thought I was back in my old local!
Why? I really don't get why this is relevant to a OMOV election. Is it simply a substitution for polling? I think it is vanishingly unlikely that the sort of person who turns up to constituency meetings has a huge amount in common with your average member but I may well be wrong.
The CLP nominations were a reasonably good guide last time; David Miliband narrowly got more nominations.
Interesting. Did it stay close down the order, eg did Balls and Burnham get very few?
Why? I really don't get why this is relevant to a OMOV election. Is it simply a substitution for polling? I think it is vanishingly unlikely that the sort of person who turns up to constituency meetings has a huge amount in common with your average member but I may well be wrong.
It's clearly not a strong indicator, but it is an indicator of sorts and we don't have much in the way of better information. I think one can draw two tentative conclusions:
Why? I really don't get why this is relevant to a OMOV election. Is it simply a substitution for polling? I think it is vanishingly unlikely that the sort of person who turns up to constituency meetings has a huge amount in common with your average member but I may well be wrong.
It's clearly not a strong indicator, but it is an indicator of sorts and we don't have much in the way of better information. I think one can draw two tentative conclusions:
1. Liz is toast
2. Jeremy is going to do surprisingly well.
Laying Liz Kendall looks clear cut at anything close to current prices.
An interesting bet would be for both Roger Federer and Serena Williams to be Wimbledon champions at the age of 35.
Roger Federer is 33 !
So is Serena. Ian Bell too
Jack Nicklaus won the US Masters at 46!
A touch easier to do in golf, but youth still has a massive advantage.
Bernard Hopkins boxing career in his 40s is remarkable.
Indeed, but he had not won even won PGA event in the 2 years prior to that Major. Even more impressive for a boxer to keep going in their 40s
QUite a few do, even when they shouldn't - but the level he kept up in his 40s was quite remarkable. He should probably retire now, Kovalev beat him well.
Indeed, I think eventually everyone has to accept they have pushed their body beyond its limits once they reach a certain age
A certain Eldrick Tont Woods isn't buying it.
Tiger is only 40 in December, still 6 years to go to match Jack's Masters win!
He's a month younger than me
Well you still have a few years left to win the Masters then Sunil, better get down the driving range!
An interesting bet would be for both Roger Federer and Serena Williams to be Wimbledon champions at the age of 35.
Roger Federer is 33 !
So is Serena. Ian Bell too
Jack Nicklaus won the US Masters at 46!
A touch easier to do in golf, but youth still has a massive advantage.
Bernard Hopkins boxing career in his 40s is remarkable.
Indeed, but he had not won even won PGA event in the 2 years prior to that Major. Even more impressive for a boxer to keep going in their 40s
QUite a few do, even when they shouldn't - but the level he kept up in his 40s was quite remarkable. He should probably retire now, Kovalev beat him well.
Indeed, I think eventually everyone has to accept they have pushed their body beyond its limits once they reach a certain age
Very true! I'm 60 in two weeks, last Saturday I had to have emergency laser treatment for a torn retina.
I'm slowly falling apart but very happy to still be here!
Sorry to hear that Nigel and hope the treatment went OK, you seem to have a positive attitude anyway
Thanks, my daughters seem concerned but told them it's only a poxy torn retina, it's not going to kill me. Unless I can't see a bus coming of course.
An interesting bet would be for both Roger Federer and Serena Williams to be Wimbledon champions at the age of 35.
Roger Federer is 33 !
So is Serena. Ian Bell too
Jack Nicklaus won the US Masters at 46!
A touch easier to do in golf, but youth still has a massive advantage.
Bernard Hopkins boxing career in his 40s is remarkable.
Indeed, but he had not won even won PGA event in the 2 years prior to that Major. Even more impressive for a boxer to keep going in their 40s
QUite a few do, even when they shouldn't - but the level he kept up in his 40s was quite remarkable. He should probably retire now, Kovalev beat him well.
Indeed, I think eventually everyone has to accept they have pushed their body beyond its limits once they reach a certain age
Very true! I'm 60 in two weeks, last Saturday I had to have emergency laser treatment for a torn retina.
I'm slowly falling apart but very happy to still be here!
Sorry to hear that Nigel and hope the treatment went OK, you seem to have a positive attitude anyway
Thanks, my daughters seem concerned but told them it's only a poxy torn retina, it's not going to kill me. Unless I can't see a bus coming of course.
Glad you are OK - hope you are feeling fit. However, what caused the torn retina? I'm not being funny (and I'm not knowledgeable) I know of somebody who had a detached retina and then a few days later he died of a stroke like collapse.
Blimey, thanks for the reassurance!
They don't know what causes it but I suspect it happened a few months ago, I've had blurred vision and flashing lights for a while now, for a time I thought I was back in my old local!
Not wishing to cause you a panic, FWIW I get a bit of blurred vision every now and again in one eye - your comment immediately makes me think that if it happens again I might actually go to the doctors. The 2 incidents for my acquaintance may be probably were just coincidence, but it makes me think.
My wife BTW at one time came very close to going blind due to acute (?) glaucoma. She needed laser treatment to drill little holes to relieve the pressure behind her eye. It was scary at the time.
Laying Liz Kendall looks clear cut at anything close to current prices.
Agreed.
Difficult to know why Labour are going to land up with Burnham.. Whatever "Henry G" might say... Yvette isn't the answer but then neither is anyone in the Labour Party.
Which Labour MP currently not in the running has any form of gravitas. I am struggling to think of anyone.
An interesting bet would be for both Roger Federer and Serena Williams to be Wimbledon champions at the age of 35.
Roger Federer is 33 !
So is Serena. Ian Bell too
Jack Nicklaus won the US Masters at 46!
A touch easier to do in golf, but youth still has a massive advantage.
Bernard Hopkins boxing career in his 40s is remarkable.
Indeed, but he had not won even won PGA event in the 2 years prior to that Major. Even more impressive for a boxer to keep going in their 40s
QUite a few do, even when they shouldn't - but the level he kept up in his 40s was quite remarkable. He should probably retire now, Kovalev beat him well.
Indeed, I think eventually everyone has to accept they have pushed their body beyond its limits once they reach a certain age
Very true! I'm 60 in two weeks, last Saturday I had to have emergency laser treatment for a torn retina.
I'm slowly falling apart but very happy to still be here!
Sorry to hear that Nigel and hope the treatment went OK, you seem to have a positive attitude anyway
Thanks, my daughters seem concerned but told them it's only a poxy torn retina, it's not going to kill me. Unless I can't see a bus coming of course.
Well hope the treatment has helped anyway
Thanks again, I have to go back in a week or so and will find out then.
Why? I really don't get why this is relevant to a OMOV election. Is it simply a substitution for polling? I think it is vanishingly unlikely that the sort of person who turns up to constituency meetings has a huge amount in common with your average member but I may well be wrong.
It's clearly not a strong indicator, but it is an indicator of sorts and we don't have much in the way of better information. I think one can draw two tentative conclusions:
1. Liz is toast
2. Jeremy is going to do surprisingly well.
Hard to argue with either of these conclusions. Shame about Liz but she has not made anything like the breakthrough that she needed to given her poorer name recognition.
An interesting bet would be for both Roger Federer and Serena Williams to be Wimbledon champions at the age of 35.
Roger Federer is 33 !
So is Serena. Ian Bell too
Jack Nicklaus won the US Masters at 46!
A touch easier to do in golf, but youth still has a massive advantage.
Bernard Hopkins boxing career in his 40s is remarkable.
Indeed, but he had not won even won PGA event in the 2 years prior to that Major. Even more impressive for a boxer to keep going in their 40s
QUite a few do, even when they shouldn't - but the level he kept up in his 40s was quite remarkable. He should probably retire now, Kovalev beat him well.
Indeed, I think eventually everyone has to accept they have pushed their body beyond its limits once they reach a certain age
A certain Eldrick Tont Woods isn't buying it.
Tiger is only 40 in December, still 6 years to go to match Jack's Masters win!
He's a month younger than me
Well you still have a few years left to win the Masters then Sunil, better get down the driving range!
HYUFD except that Golf is perhaps the only sport more boring than Test Cricket
An interesting bet would be for both Roger Federer and Serena Williams to be Wimbledon champions at the age of 35.
Roger Federer is 33 !
So is Serena. Ian Bell too
Jack Nicklaus won the US Masters at 46!
A touch easier to do in golf, but youth still has a massive advantage.
Bernard Hopkins boxing career in his 40s is remarkable.
Indeed, but he had not won even won PGA event in the 2 years prior to that Major. Even more impressive for a boxer to keep going in their 40s
QUite a few do, even when they shouldn't - but the level he kept up in his 40s was quite remarkable. He should probably retire now, Kovalev beat him well.
Indeed, I think eventually everyone has to accept they have pushed their body beyond its limits once they reach a certain age
A certain Eldrick Tont Woods isn't buying it.
Tiger is only 40 in December, still 6 years to go to match Jack's Masters win!
He's a month younger than me
Well you still have a few years left to win the Masters then Sunil, better get down the driving range!
HYUFD except that Golf is perhaps the only sport more boring than Test Cricket
I've watched every ball of this Test, though I will miss some of tomorrow's play.
Laying Liz Kendall looks clear cut at anything close to current prices.
Agreed.
Difficult to know why Labour are going to land up with Burnham.. Whatever "Henry G" might say... Yvette isn't the answer but then neither is anyone in the Labour Party.
Which Labour MP currently not in the running has any form of gravitas. I am struggling to think of anyone.
Just to reiterate what everyone else has said (bad experience of eye diseases in my family too): all the best nigel. And take care of yourself - going to the doc is like going to the bog, when you've got to go, you've got to go, or things get messy :-)
An interesting bet would be for both Roger Federer and Serena Williams to be Wimbledon champions at the age of 35.
Roger Federer is 33 !
So is Serena. Ian Bell too
Jack Nicklaus won the US Masters at 46!
A touch easier to do in golf, but youth still has a massive advantage.
Bernard Hopkins boxing career in his 40s is remarkable.
Indeed, but he had not won even won PGA event in the 2 years prior to that Major. Even more impressive for a boxer to keep going in their 40s
QUite a few do, even when they shouldn't - but the level he kept up in his 40s was quite remarkable. He should probably retire now, Kovalev beat him well.
Indeed, I think eventually everyone has to accept they have pushed their body beyond its limits once they reach a certain age
A certain Eldrick Tont Woods isn't buying it.
Tiger is only 40 in December, still 6 years to go to match Jack's Masters win!
Tiger has had laser eye surgery twice, four operations on his left knee, a broken left leg - not to mention chronic back ailments, achilles tendon problems, and so on. Neither his left leg or his back are - or will probably ever will be - 100%.
In calendar years he may be 40, but thanks to his violent and strenuous golf swing, his leg and back are much older than 40.
Incidentally I was there for Jack's 1986 Masters win - it was my first year on the scoring committee. It was absolute magic.
Indeed, looks like Jack will keep his record then, you were lucky to be there for the win, one of the great sporting moments!
The first time I met him was in the men's room at the clubhouse!
If Tiger can put four good rounds together at the right time (and the Greenbrier doesn't count because it's an easy course with lots of rain), he might well win another major.
I don't think he has a cat in hell's chance of winning four.
Just to reiterate what everyone else has said (bad experience of eye diseases in my family too): all the best nigel. And take care of yourself - going to the doc is like going to the bog, when you've got to go, you've got to go, or things get messy :-)
Why? I really don't get why this is relevant to a OMOV election. Is it simply a substitution for polling? I think it is vanishingly unlikely that the sort of person who turns up to constituency meetings has a huge amount in common with your average member but I may well be wrong.
It's clearly not a strong indicator, but it is an indicator of sorts and we don't have much in the way of better information. I think one can draw two tentative conclusions:
1. Liz is toast
2. Jeremy is going to do surprisingly well.
Laying Liz Kendall looks clear cut at anything close to current prices.
Your analysis would seem to indicate that she is applying for the wrong job in the wrong party on the wrong planet.
Laying Liz Kendall looks clear cut at anything close to current prices.
Agreed.
Difficult to know why Labour are going to land up with Burnham.. Whatever "Henry G" might say... Yvette isn't the answer but then neither is anyone in the Labour Party.
Which Labour MP currently not in the running has any form of gravitas. I am struggling to think of anyone.
Gravitas is overrated, Brown had more gravitas than Blair, Howard and Davis than Cameron, charisma and likeability is more important in party leaders
An interesting bet would be for both Roger Federer and Serena Williams to be Wimbledon champions at the age of 35.
Roger Federer is 33 !
So is Serena. Ian Bell too
Jack Nicklaus won the US Masters at 46!
A touch easier to do in golf, but youth still has a massive advantage.
Bernard Hopkins boxing career in his 40s is remarkable.
Indeed, but he had not won even won PGA event in the 2 years prior to that Major. Even more impressive for a boxer to keep going in their 40s
QUite a few do, even when they shouldn't - but the level he kept up in his 40s was quite remarkable. He should probably retire now, Kovalev beat him well.
Indeed, I think eventually everyone has to accept they have pushed their body beyond its limits once they reach a certain age
Very true! I'm 60 in two weeks, last Saturday I had to have emergency laser treatment for a torn retina.
I'm slowly falling apart but very happy to still be here!
Sorry to hear that Nigel and hope the treatment went OK, you seem to have a positive attitude anyway
Thanks, my daughters seem concerned but told them it's only a poxy torn retina, it's not going to kill me. Unless I can't see a bus coming of course.
Well hope the treatment has helped anyway
Thanks again, I have to go back in a week or so and will find out then.
An interesting bet would be for both Roger Federer and Serena Williams to be Wimbledon champions at the age of 35.
Roger Federer is 33 !
So is Serena. Ian Bell too
Jack Nicklaus won the US Masters at 46!
A touch easier to do in golf, but youth still has a massive advantage.
Bernard Hopkins boxing career in his 40s is remarkable.
Indeed, but he had not won even won PGA event in the 2 years prior to that Major. Even more impressive for a boxer to keep going in their 40s
QUite a few do, even when they shouldn't - but the level he kept up in his 40s was quite remarkable. He should probably retire now, Kovalev beat him well.
Indeed, I think eventually everyone has to accept they have pushed their body beyond its limits once they reach a certain age
A certain Eldrick Tont Woods isn't buying it.
Tiger is only 40 in December, still 6 years to go to match Jack's Masters win!
He's a month younger than me
Well you still have a few years left to win the Masters then Sunil, better get down the driving range!
HYUFD except that Golf is perhaps the only sport more boring than Test Cricket
All depends on the context, Faldo's defeat of Norman at the 1996 Masters was very dramatic, as was the 2005 Ashes series
An interesting bet would be for both Roger Federer and Serena Williams to be Wimbledon champions at the age of 35.
Roger Federer is 33 !
So is Serena. Ian Bell too
Jack Nicklaus won the US Masters at 46!
A touch easier to do in golf, but youth still has a massive advantage.
Bernard Hopkins boxing career in his 40s is remarkable.
Indeed, but he had not won even won PGA event in the 2 years prior to that Major. Even more impressive for a boxer to keep going in their 40s
QUite a few do, even when they shouldn't - but the level he kept up in his 40s was quite remarkable. He should probably retire now, Kovalev beat him well.
Indeed, I think eventually everyone has to accept they have pushed their body beyond its limits once they reach a certain age
A certain Eldrick Tont Woods isn't buying it.
Tiger is only 40 in December, still 6 years to go to match Jack's Masters win!
Tiger has had laser eye surgery twice, four operations on his left knee, a broken left leg - not to mention chronic back ailments, achilles tendon problems, and so on. Neither his left leg or his back are - or will probably ever will be - 100%.
In calendar years he may be 40, but thanks to his violent and strenuous golf swing, his leg and back are much older than 40.
Incidentally I was there for Jack's 1986 Masters win - it was my first year on the scoring committee. It was absolute magic.
Indeed, looks like Jack will keep his record then, you were lucky to be there for the win, one of the great sporting moments!
The first time I met him was in the men's room at the clubhouse!
If Tiger can put four good rounds together at the right time (and the Greenbrier doesn't count because it's an easy course with lots of rain), he might well win another major.
I don't think he has a cat in hell's chance of winning four.
The door is closing for Tiger.
Well even champions have to go to the bathroom I suppose! I agree he may win one or 2 more Majors but his best days are well behind him
Watching BBC World News with Laura Trevelyan. She is standing near a desk, holding the ubiquitous BBC sheaf of papers. The camera pulls back, and there is a microphone lead coming out of the bottom of her dress and trailing along the floor. Really? Haven't they heard of cordless? Laura is married to the head of ABC News, so she could probably chip in a bit.
Why do they have these people standing and wandering around in front of huge flat screens and holding papers they never look at?
Why can't they just sit behind a desk like anyone else? It just looks odd.
Watching BBC World News with Laura Trevelyan. She is standing near a desk, holding the ubiquitous BBC sheaf of papers. The camera pulls back, and there is a microphone lead coming out of the bottom of her dress and trailing along the floor. Really? Haven't they heard of cordless? Laura is married to the head of ABC News, so she could probably chip in a bit.
Why do they have these people standing and wandering around in front of huge flat screens and holding papers they never look at?
Why can't they just sit behind a desk like anyone else? It just looks odd.
On the other hand, why do you still have to sign for credit card bills in the US? Businesses don't want to pay for the wireless keypad machines, I assume.
An interesting bet would be for both Roger Federer and Serena Williams to be Wimbledon champions at the age of 35.
Roger Federer is 33 !
So is Serena. Ian Bell too
Jack Nicklaus won the US Masters at 46!
A touch easier to do in golf, but youth still has a massive advantage.
Bernard Hopkins boxing career in his 40s is remarkable.
Indeed, but he had not won even won PGA event in the 2 years prior to that Major. Even more impressive for a boxer to keep going in their 40s
QUite a few do, even when they shouldn't - but the level he kept up in his 40s was quite remarkable. He should probably retire now, Kovalev beat him well.
Indeed, I think eventually everyone has to accept they have pushed their body beyond its limits once they reach a certain age
Very true! I'm 60 in two weeks, last Saturday I had to have emergency laser treatment for a torn retina.
I'm slowly falling apart but very happy to still be here!
Sorry to hear that Nigel and hope the treatment went OK, you seem to have a positive attitude anyway
Thanks, my daughters seem concerned but told them it's only a poxy torn retina, it's not going to kill me. Unless I can't see a bus coming of course.
Well hope the treatment has helped anyway
Thanks again, I have to go back in a week or so and will find out then.
An interesting bet would be for both Roger Federer and Serena Williams to be Wimbledon champions at the age of 35.
Roger Federer is 33 !
So is Serena. Ian Bell too
Jack Nicklaus won the US Masters at 46!
A touch easier to do in golf, but youth still has a massive advantage.
Bernard Hopkins boxing career in his 40s is remarkable.
Indeed, but he had not won even won PGA event in the 2 years prior to that Major. Even more impressive for a boxer to keep going in their 40s
QUite a few do, even when they shouldn't - but the level he kept up in his 40s was quite remarkable. He should probably retire now, Kovalev beat him well.
Indeed, I think eventually everyone has to accept they have pushed their body beyond its limits once they reach a certain age
Very true! I'm 60 in two weeks, last Saturday I had to have emergency laser treatment for a torn retina.
I'm slowly falling apart but very happy to still be here!
Hope the treatment is successful. 60 is no age, you shouldn't be falling apart, save that for your 80s.
Just back from a CLP nomination meeting for 2 joint Labour CLPs,one went for Corbyn,one for Cooper.Biggest attendance at a Labour party meeting I have seen for some time.Interestingly,not one speaker from the floor supported Kendall.The most influential contribution came from Cooper supporters who made the point convincingly she was the only one they could see "on the world stage".Tom Watson won both nominations for deputy,though run close by Stella Creasy fans who seemed to have most of the support of an encouraging number of young people present. Jeremy Corbyn's "you can't cut your way to prosperity" continues to gain traction.
Watching BBC World News with Laura Trevelyan. She is standing near a desk, holding the ubiquitous BBC sheaf of papers. The camera pulls back, and there is a microphone lead coming out of the bottom of her dress and trailing along the floor. Really? Haven't they heard of cordless? Laura is married to the head of ABC News, so she could probably chip in a bit.
Why do they have these people standing and wandering around in front of huge flat screens and holding papers they never look at?
Why can't they just sit behind a desk like anyone else? It just looks odd.
On the other hand, why do you still have to sign for credit card bills in the US? Businesses don't want to pay for the wireless keypad machines, I assume.
That's a great non-sequitur!
Because chip and pin cards are only just coming into use, incredible though that sounds.
Until recently credit card fraud was much lower here than elsewhere. With the increasing sophistication of fraudsters that changed about 3 years ago. Now the card business is going chip and pin.
October is I believe when they will have to be used.
An interesting bet would be for both Roger Federer and Serena Williams to be Wimbledon champions at the age of 35.
Roger Federer is 33 !
So is Serena. Ian Bell too
Jack Nicklaus won the US Masters at 46!
A touch easier to do in golf, but youth still has a massive advantage.
Bernard Hopkins boxing career in his 40s is remarkable.
Indeed, but he had not won even won PGA event in the 2 years prior to that Major. Even more impressive for a boxer to keep going in their 40s
QUite a few do, even when they shouldn't - but the level he kept up in his 40s was quite remarkable. He should probably retire now, Kovalev beat him well.
Indeed, I think eventually everyone has to accept they have pushed their body beyond its limits once they reach a certain age
Very true! I'm 60 in two weeks, last Saturday I had to have emergency laser treatment for a torn retina.
I'm slowly falling apart but very happy to still be here!
Hope the treatment is successful. 60 is no age, you shouldn't be falling apart, save that for your 80s.
Ha! Falling apart at 57 - knees mainly, ankles and back too.
Just back from a CLP nomination meeting for 2 joint Labour CLPs,one went for Corbyn,one for Cooper.Biggest attendance at a Labour party meeting I have seen for some time.Interestingly,not one speaker from the floor supported Kendall.The most influential contribution came from Cooper supporters who made the point convincingly she was the only one they could see "on the world stage".Tom Watson won both nominations for deputy,though run close by Stella Creasy fans who seemed to have most of the support of an encouraging number of young people present. Jeremy Corbyn's "you can't cut your way to prosperity" continues to gain traction.
Given George W Bush and Silvio Berlusconi and Jacob Zuma have all managed to 'get on the world stage' I would not rule anyone out on that criteria!
An interesting bet would be for both Roger Federer and Serena Williams to be Wimbledon champions at the age of 35.
Roger Federer is 33 !
So is Serena. Ian Bell too
Jack Nicklaus won the US Masters at 46!
A touch easier to do in golf, but youth still has a massive advantage.
Bernard Hopkins boxing career in his 40s is remarkable.
Indeed, but he had not won even won PGA event in the 2 years prior to that Major. Even more impressive for a boxer to keep going in their 40s
QUite a few do, even when they shouldn't - but the level he kept up in his 40s was quite remarkable. He should probably retire now, Kovalev beat him well.
Indeed, I think eventually everyone has to accept they have pushed their body beyond its limits once they reach a certain age
Very true! I'm 60 in two weeks, last Saturday I had to have emergency laser treatment for a torn retina.
I'm slowly falling apart but very happy to still be here!
Hope the treatment is successful. 60 is no age, you shouldn't be falling apart, save that for your 80s.
Ha! Falling apart at 57 - knees mainly, ankles and back too.
You can always claim that they are old rugby injuries.
Just back from a CLP nomination meeting for 2 joint Labour CLPs,one went for Corbyn,one for Cooper.Biggest attendance at a Labour party meeting I have seen for some time.Interestingly,not one speaker from the floor supported Kendall.The most influential contribution came from Cooper supporters who made the point convincingly she was the only one they could see "on the world stage".Tom Watson won both nominations for deputy,though run close by Stella Creasy fans who seemed to have most of the support of an encouraging number of young people present. Jeremy Corbyn's "you can't cut your way to prosperity" continues to gain traction.
Interesting. Did Cooper's denial of dirty tricks concerning Kendall do any good?
I think Corbyn would be better than Cooper. He will bring in annual elections for leader, and I think Labour have to get neo-Syrizia out of their system before they can be a sensible party again.
Corbyn will also do the LDs a lot of good, just as Foot did the Liberals and SDP in the early eighties.
David Gower, Ian Botham, Nasser Hussain and Bob Willis may have been brilliant cricketers but I find their commentary less than scintillating to listen to, so I tend to stick to TMS and watch the highlights on Five.
An interesting bet would be for both Roger Federer and Serena Williams to be Wimbledon champions at the age of 35.
Roger Federer is 33 !
So is Serena. Ian Bell too
Jack Nicklaus won the US Masters at 46!
A touch easier to do in golf, but youth still has a massive advantage.
Bernard Hopkins boxing career in his 40s is remarkable.
Indeed, but he had not won even won PGA event in the 2 years prior to that Major. Even more impressive for a boxer to keep going in their 40s
QUite a few do, even when they shouldn't - but the level he kept up in his 40s was quite remarkable. He should probably retire now, Kovalev beat him well.
Indeed, I think eventually everyone has to accept they have pushed their body beyond its limits once they reach a certain age
A certain Eldrick Tont Woods isn't buying it.
Tiger is only 40 in December, still 6 years to go to match Jack's Masters win!
He's a month younger than me
Well you still have a few years left to win the Masters then Sunil, better get down the driving range!
HYUFD except that Golf is perhaps the only sport more boring than Test Cricket
I've watched every ball of this Test, though I will miss some of tomorrow's play.
Why? I really don't get why this is relevant to a OMOV election. Is it simply a substitution for polling? I think it is vanishingly unlikely that the sort of person who turns up to constituency meetings has a huge amount in common with your average member but I may well be wrong.
It's clearly not a strong indicator, but it is an indicator of sorts and we don't have much in the way of better information. I think one can draw two tentative conclusions:
1. Liz is toast
2. Jeremy is going to do surprisingly well.
We should take seriously the idea that Jeremy could win. I can't see any reason why the CLP nominations shouldn't be reasonably representative of the voluntary party, and the big union endorsements could make the difference for him as they did for Miliband.
I do wonder if he'll pick up some unexpected 'gesture' second places, where voters don't expect him to even be in the contest should that vote be redistributed so they feel it safe to make the point.
I have held off taking part in the Labour leader elections precisely because I didn't think Corbyn had a snowball-in-hell's chance of victory. As things go on, his outside shot looks more and more ... well, not exactly credible, but certainly plausible. That might sway me enough to get me to (a) vote, (b) for Corbyn. I wonder how many other people are in a similar position.
Corbyn's momentum is to some extent self-fulfilling.
I have held off taking part in the Labour leader elections precisely because I didn't think Corbyn had a snowball-in-hell's chance of victory. As things go on, his outside shot looks more and more ... well, not exactly credible, but certainly plausible. That might sway me enough to get me to (a) vote, (b) for Corbyn. I wonder how many other people are in a similar position.
Corbyn's momentum is to some extent self-fulfilling.
Do you think Corbyn could win a general election for Labour (serious question)?
I have just watched the Top Gear Patagonia special. I have all the dvds including series 21, but it's not on them that I can find. It's copyrighted 2014. Is it part of series 22, the last episode of which airs here on Monday?
I have just watched the Top Gear Patagonia special. I have all the dvds including series 21, but it's not on them that I can find. It's copyrighted 2014. Is it part of series 22, the last episode of which airs here on Monday?
No, it's a Christmas special, not officially part of any regular series
I have just watched the Top Gear Patagonia special. I have all the dvds including series 21, but it's not on them that I can find. It's copyrighted 2014. Is it part of series 22, the last episode of which airs here on Monday?
It's formally listed as (total) episodes 167/168 in Series 22
The Corbyn momentum reminds me a little of Fox's momentum in 2005 when it was thought he could get into the final 2, in the end he was third and beat Clarke but it ended up Davis v Cameron.
I have just watched the Top Gear Patagonia special. I have all the dvds including series 21, but it's not on them that I can find. It's copyrighted 2014. Is it part of series 22, the last episode of which airs here on Monday?
No, it's a Christmas special, not officially part of any regular series
The Christmas specials typically make their way into the dvd sets.
The only 'specials' that haven't so far are Winter Olympics, 50 years of bond cars, armageddon (thank heaven), at the movies (truly awful), and worst car in the world. But they were all less than 3 pounds on amazon uk, so no biggie.
I have just watched the Top Gear Patagonia special. I have all the dvds including series 21, but it's not on them that I can find. It's copyrighted 2014. Is it part of series 22, the last episode of which airs here on Monday?
It's formally listed as (total) episodes 167/168 in Series 22
It should emerge in the next couple of months then, whenever series 22 comes out on dvd.
BBC America is touting Monday's episode as 'the one you never thought you'd see.'
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1. Come out with an insane policy that everyone can easily object too.
2. The actual (a bit milder) policy that comes out later gets ignored as the media circus has moved on by then.
3. Everybody carries on as before.
I'm slowly falling apart but very happy to still be here!
After all, it's not as if any men ever chuck in their jobs to look after the kid (s) whilst their wives put bread on the table.
http://isteve.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/the-economist-finally-discovers.html?m=1
http://isteve.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/obama-v-romney-demographics-draw-your.html?m=1
(ISTR he had a very promising naval career ahead of him, which he gave up when he marries Lizzie. Or at least a more promising naval career than his eldest son's).
Besides, any sign of a nanny and they're not really doing the job ...
In calendar years he may be 40, but thanks to his violent and strenuous golf swing, his leg and back are much older than 40.
Incidentally I was there for Jack's 1986 Masters win - it was my first year on the scoring committee. It was absolute magic.
His asshole is still perpendicular, unless I've missed the announcement.....
Why? I really don't get why this is relevant to a OMOV election. Is it simply a substitution for polling? I think it is vanishingly unlikely that the sort of person who turns up to constituency meetings has a huge amount in common with your average member but I may well be wrong.
They don't know what causes it but I suspect it happened a few months ago, I've had blurred vision and flashing lights for a while now, for a time I thought I was back in my old local!
1. Liz is toast
2. Jeremy is going to do surprisingly well.
My wife BTW at one time came very close to going blind due to acute (?) glaucoma. She needed laser treatment to drill little holes to relieve the pressure behind her eye. It was scary at the time.
Which Labour MP currently not in the running has any form of gravitas. I am struggling to think of anyone.
Test cricket is the best sport in the world.
Diane Abbott — 20
Ed Balls — 17
Andy Burnham — 44
David Miliband — 164
Ed Miliband — 151
http://labourlist.org/2010/06/clp-nominations/
Note however that Balls ended up doing a lot better, and Burnham rather worse, amongst members than that would indicate.
(EHWI2013!)
If Tiger can put four good rounds together at the right time (and the Greenbrier doesn't count because it's an easy course with lots of rain), he might well win another major.
I don't think he has a cat in hell's chance of winning four.
The door is closing for Tiger.
Why do they have these people standing and wandering around in front of huge flat screens and holding papers they never look at?
Why can't they just sit behind a desk like anyone else? It just looks odd.
"Arise, Sir Andy - please accept this tennis racket for your services."
Jeremy Corbyn's "you can't cut your way to prosperity" continues to gain traction.
Because chip and pin cards are only just coming into use, incredible though that sounds.
Until recently credit card fraud was much lower here than elsewhere. With the increasing sophistication of fraudsters that changed about 3 years ago. Now the card business is going chip and pin.
October is I believe when they will have to be used.
My running total...maybe mistakes, hopefully not
Andy 43
Jeremy 34
Yvette 27
Liz 5
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I think Corbyn would be better than Cooper. He will bring in annual elections for leader, and I think Labour have to get neo-Syrizia out of their system before they can be a sensible party again.
Corbyn will also do the LDs a lot of good, just as Foot did the Liberals and SDP in the early eighties.
I do wonder if he'll pick up some unexpected 'gesture' second places, where voters don't expect him to even be in the contest should that vote be redistributed so they feel it safe to make the point.
Corbyn's momentum is to some extent self-fulfilling.
So what is his remedy?
The only 'specials' that haven't so far are Winter Olympics, 50 years of bond cars, armageddon (thank heaven), at the movies (truly awful), and worst car in the world. But they were all less than 3 pounds on amazon uk, so no biggie.
BBC America is touting Monday's episode as 'the one you never thought you'd see.'
Oxford PPE maybe slightly more usual, though
"and she seems to be very much her own woman"
I actually knew Helen slightly years ago, and I can confirm that's certainly true!