I am at a loss, can someone please explain to me why the Welsh Assembly are planning on banning e-cigs in public places? Wasnt the reason that smoking was banned because of the impact it had on those who didnt smoke? What risk are e-cigs to others?
I really cannot understand what is going on. I was always curious as to how the state of hysteria could arise that resulted in the banning of songs, christmas and things that people 'enjoyed', purely because they enjoyed them during the interregnum of the 17thC.
These e-cigs are quite possibly the biggest breakthrough in public health since the discovery of penicillin, yet because people derive pleasure from it, they want to ban it.
As an ex smoker and current vapor. I think that the joyless puritans that have appointed themselves as our moral guardians think that we may be enjoying vaping too much. The tyranny of the do gooder and all that.
I am at a loss, can someone please explain to me why the Welsh Assembly are planning on banning e-cigs in public places? Wasnt the reason that smoking was banned because of the impact it had on those who didnt smoke? What risk are e-cigs to others?
I really cannot understand what is going on. I was always curious as to how the state of hysteria could arise that resulted in the banning of songs, christmas and things that people 'enjoyed', purely because they enjoyed them during the interregnum of the 17thC.
These e-cigs are quite possibly the biggest breakthrough in public health since the discovery of penicillin, yet because people derive pleasure from it, they want to ban it.
As an ex smoker and current vapor. I think that the joyless puritans that have appointed themselves as our moral guardians think that we may be enjoying vaping too much. The tyranny of the do gooder and all that.
The vapour is a con.. it just wants you to remain addicted.. there was a programme on the radio about it today.
Go cold turkey and stuff the fag companies.. they own the e-cig firms anyway. they will get you one way or another.. Two days of strong will and you are ok and free of the filthy habit.
I am at a loss, can someone please explain to me why the Welsh Assembly are planning on banning e-cigs in public places? Wasnt the reason that smoking was banned because of the impact it had on those who didnt smoke? What risk are e-cigs to others?
I really cannot understand what is going on. I was always curious as to how the state of hysteria could arise that resulted in the banning of songs, christmas and things that people 'enjoyed', purely because they enjoyed them during the interregnum of the 17thC.
These e-cigs are quite possibly the biggest breakthrough in public health since the discovery of penicillin, yet because people derive pleasure from it, they want to ban it.
As an ex smoker and current vapor. I think that the joyless puritans that have appointed themselves as our moral guardians think that we may be enjoying vaping too much. The tyranny of the do gooder and all that.
It seems si. I just wonder what the world has come to. Its like banning curly wurlies and cheese and onion crisps. I just cannot see why.
If a journo had asked Dave about the cost of petrol and he had screwed up, the howls on here of a Tory Toff out of touch etc would have been unbearable.. when it happens to a champagne socialist, suddenly people want to defend Burnham
WHY ???
Some have been making the point that even asking the question is just a silly trap, implicitly or in some cases explicitly defending both, or indeed any politician in that situation.
Personally I don't care in the slightest if a politician is out of touch in almost any way. They could still be a very good representative for ordinary people, or have policies that benefit ordinary people (ideally everyone, but you cannot please everyone all of the time), whether they know the cost of a pint of milk or not*. Knowing ordinary people through shared experience can be a help, but it's not automatically going to be one, nor the lack mean you cannot be a help to them.
*And that question is almost certainly even more of a trap than petrol - I've not paid above a £1.00 for 4pts in years, but then I don't buy single pints, which no doubt is more like 50-70p and not the equivalent of 25p I've been paying as a result.
Good night all.
But the price of petrol is so fundamental not just to personal budgets, but to the costs of virtually every business and most things that you buy in shops that just about everyone knows how much it costs, even people who don't drive. And given what a fuss Labour made about the "cost of living crisis" and about heating costs it shows that he clearly lives on another planet
I am at a loss, can someone please explain to me why the Welsh Assembly are planning on banning e-cigs in public places? Wasnt the reason that smoking was banned because of the impact it had on those who didnt smoke? What risk are e-cigs to others?
I really cannot understand what is going on. I was always curious as to how the state of hysteria could arise that resulted in the banning of songs, christmas and things that people 'enjoyed', purely because they enjoyed them during the interregnum of the 17thC.
These e-cigs are quite possibly the biggest breakthrough in public health since the discovery of penicillin, yet because people derive pleasure from it, they want to ban it.
As an ex smoker and current vapor. I think that the joyless puritans that have appointed themselves as our moral guardians think that we may be enjoying vaping too much. The tyranny of the do gooder and all that.
The vapour is a con.. it just wants you to remain addicted.. there was a programme on the radio about it today.
Go cold turkey and stuff the fag companies.. they own the e-cig firms anyway. they will get you one way or another.. Two days of strong will and you are ok and free of the filthy habit.
That's friendly advice, but it isnt a reason to ban something. It's like telling someone who is fat to eat less and exercise more. It's almost Alan Partridgesque.
I am at a loss, can someone please explain to me why the Welsh Assembly are planning on banning e-cigs in public places? Wasnt the reason that smoking was banned because of the impact it had on those who didnt smoke? What risk are e-cigs to others?
I really cannot understand what is going on. I was always curious as to how the state of hysteria could arise that resulted in the banning of songs, christmas and things that people 'enjoyed', purely because they enjoyed them during the interregnum of the 17thC.
These e-cigs are quite possibly the biggest breakthrough in public health since the discovery of penicillin, yet because people derive pleasure from it, they want to ban it.
As an ex smoker and current vapor. I think that the joyless puritans that have appointed themselves as our moral guardians think that we may be enjoying vaping too much. The tyranny of the do gooder and all that.
The vapour is a con.. it just wants you to remain addicted.. there was a programme on the radio about it today.
Go cold turkey and stuff the fag companies.. they own the e-cig firms anyway. they will get you one way or another.. Two days of strong will and you are ok and free of the filthy habit.
No its much harder to give up than that. The physiological addiction disappears within days, the psychological addiction takes years. There are certain circumstances where I crave a ciggy even when I have not had one for six months.
SNP amendment gets 53 votes when the SNP has 56 MPs. Great start to Parliament as a supposed major third party. You'd think they'd be able to get their own party out for their first act!
I am at a loss, can someone please explain to me why the Welsh Assembly are planning on banning e-cigs in public places? Wasnt the reason that smoking was banned because of the impact it had on those who didnt smoke? What risk are e-cigs to others?
I really cannot understand what is going on. I was always curious as to how the state of hysteria could arise that resulted in the banning of songs, christmas and things that people 'enjoyed', purely because they enjoyed them during the interregnum of the 17thC.
These e-cigs are quite possibly the biggest breakthrough in public health since the discovery of penicillin, yet because people derive pleasure from it, they want to ban it.
As an ex smoker and current vapor. I think that the joyless puritans that have appointed themselves as our moral guardians think that we may be enjoying vaping too much. The tyranny of the do gooder and all that.
The vapour is a con.. it just wants you to remain addicted.. there was a programme on the radio about it today.
Go cold turkey and stuff the fag companies.. they own the e-cig firms anyway. they will get you one way or another.. Two days of strong will and you are ok and free of the filthy habit.
No its much harder to give up than that. The physiological addiction disappears within days, the psychological addiction takes years. There are certain circumstances where I crave a ciggy even when I have not had one for six months.
That psychological addiction is the major barrier either and getting a replacement crutch isn't necessary to get over that. Seriously wanting to quit is the major barrier.
I am at a loss, can someone please explain to me why the Welsh Assembly are planning on banning e-cigs in public places? Wasnt the reason that smoking was banned because of the impact it had on those who didnt smoke? What risk are e-cigs to others?
I really cannot understand what is going on. I was always curious as to how the state of hysteria could arise that resulted in the banning of songs, christmas and things that people 'enjoyed', purely because they enjoyed them during the interregnum of the 17thC.
These e-cigs are quite possibly the biggest breakthrough in public health since the discovery of penicillin, yet because people derive pleasure from it, they want to ban it.
As an ex smoker and current vapor. I think that the joyless puritans that have appointed themselves as our moral guardians think that we may be enjoying vaping too much. The tyranny of the do gooder and all that.
The vapour is a con.. it just wants you to remain addicted.. there was a programme on the radio about it today.
Go cold turkey and stuff the fag companies.. they own the e-cig firms anyway. they will get you one way or another.. Two days of strong will and you are ok and free of the filthy habit.
No its much harder to give up than that. The physiological addiction disappears within days, the psychological addiction takes years. There are certain circumstances where I crave a ciggy even when I have not had one for six months.
Well, I had smoked for over 40 yrs... I used to buy loads from abroad sort of tax paid half the price of the UK...then My wife died and I had virtually no disposable income. It was the red wine occasionally or the fags. The fags had to go!, I stopped.. there was that persistent voice telling me just buying one packet was ok, but I resisted it and won .. In fact I now hate the smell so much, no one is allowed to smoke in my house.. period.
It's enough to make me want to swap my regularly weekly shopping from Tesco & Waitrose to Sainsburys
What can you expect when you have sausages for brains. Never mind wanting to swap where you shop, it hardly encourages you to think that the premier opinion former on the subject of the EU is the full box-set.
SNP amendment gets 53 votes when the SNP has 56 MPs. Great start to Parliament as a supposed major third party. You'd think they'd be able to get their own party out for their first act!
SNP amendment gets 53 votes when the SNP has 56 MPs. Great start to Parliament as a supposed major third party. You'd think they'd be able to get their own party out for their first act!
I thought Tellers were still counted in the final total?
George Osborne will today pledge to ensure that Britain does not "give up on the future" with a new law to guarantee that the country always has money to spare in the event of an economic crisis.
The Chancellor will use a speech at the Mansion House to commit to a new “fiscal settlement" to enshrine in law a commitment to permanently run a surplus.
Mr Osborne will force a Commons vote on the issue in a bid to pile pressure on Labour to support the new rules.
The Chancellor will also announce that for the first time in more than 150 years, the Committee of the Commissioners for the Reduction of the National Debt will formally meet.
The Commissioners, who include Mr Osborne, the Governor and Deputy Governors of the Bank of England, the Lord Chief Justice and the Speaker of the House of Commons, were established by William Pitt the Younger to reduce the national debt and last met in October 1860.
George Osborne will today pledge to ensure that Britain does not "give up on the future" with a new law to guarantee that the country always has money to spare in the event of an economic crisis.
The Chancellor will use a speech at the Mansion House to commit to a new “fiscal settlement" to enshrine in law a commitment to permanently run a surplus.
Mr Osborne will force a Commons vote on the issue in a bid to pile pressure on Labour to support the new rules.
The Chancellor will also announce that for the first time in more than 150 years, the Committee of the Commissioners for the Reduction of the National Debt will formally meet.
The Commissioners, who include Mr Osborne, the Governor and Deputy Governors of the Bank of England, the Lord Chief Justice and the Speaker of the House of Commons, were established by William Pitt the Younger to reduce the national debt and last met in October 1860.
One man's running a surplus is another man's taking more in taxes than is needed.
Of course, one man who won't be running a surplus is George Osborne, so Labour might propose an amendment dismissing any Chancellor, like Osborne, who runs a deficit.
I am at a loss, can someone please explain to me why the Welsh Assembly are planning on banning e-cigs in public places? Wasnt the reason that smoking was banned because of the impact it had on those who didnt smoke? What risk are e-cigs to others?
I really cannot understand what is going on. I was always curious as to how the state of hysteria could arise that resulted in the banning of songs, christmas and things that people 'enjoyed', purely because they enjoyed them during the interregnum of the 17thC.
These e-cigs are quite possibly the biggest breakthrough in public health since the discovery of penicillin, yet because people derive pleasure from it, they want to ban it.
E-cigs are NOT safe, they are merely less harmful than cigarettes. They can give off several chemicals including formaldehyde. The stuff breathed out by the vaper is also a second hand smoke problem. Studies are under way here in the US.
Be assured, certainly in the US, regulation is coming.
E-cigs are NOT safe, they are merely less harmful than cigarettes. They can give off several chemicals including formaldehyde. The stuff breathed out by the vaper is also a second hand smoke problem. Studies are under way here in the US.
Be assured, certainly in the US, regulation is coming.
I can imagine that the formaldehyde could conceivable be a problem to the person "vaping" but it's hard to imagine that the concentration would be high enough to cause a second hand vapour problem. But I guess the studies may reveal something.
seems like a bizarre activity to me. but then I'm here in Japan where you can still experience the joy of a lungfull of second hand smoke over your sashimi
What utter twaddle. At first I thought this was a spoof article but it appears to be serious.
Wow! What an idiot.
I think that is the website that posts articles from a member formerly of this parish. So, gives you an idea of what kind of quality we are dealing with..... titters.
What utter twaddle. At first I thought this was a spoof article but it appears to be serious.
Wow! What an idiot.
I think that is the website that posts articles from a member formerly of this parish. So, gives you an idea of what kind of quality we are dealing with..... titters.
And lol. LDs right wing. Okay.
It was obviously written by someone looking for a nugget, a merest morsel, of hope for left-wing politics in the last election. And there are some; the opportunity of replacing Miliband with someone not quite so hopeless being one.
But seriously.
He even gets things wrong in the comments below the article, when he says that putting the Lib Dems on the 'left' would mean the left got a bigger increase.
I liked the photo in the article at the top of the previous thread - not because of the people in it, but because of the general colour scheme and the gentle woodlandy background. It reminded me of this photo, which contains an impressively delightful person who is significant because this month is the tenth anniversary.
BBC Breakfast have just had a segment from Bempton on the East Yorkshire coast, where I once saw a suicidal rabbit jump off the cliffs whilst I was doing a remote radio interview with BBC Radio Humberside.
SNP amendment gets 53 votes when the SNP has 56 MPs. Great start to Parliament as a supposed major third party. You'd think they'd be able to get their own party out for their first act!
I thought Tellers were still counted in the final total?
No. It's a formality, of course, since there are two on each side, but they're not counted.
Danish update for punters or anyone else interested: the centre-right has seemingly stopped the rot, and the polls for the last couple of days are exactly even down to the decimal point - 50.0% each. The individual polls are varying with either side up to 1.5% ahead. If anyone took my advice to punt on Thorning when the price was longer, it'd arguably be worth taking the profit now.
The poisition is now where we were in Britain - the PM is ahead both in personal ratings and perceived economic competence, but the Government as a whole isn't very popular so the polls are even after several years of small opposition leads. If this persists up to polling day, it'll be interesting to see if the result of that is a British style "oh well, stick to what we've got" result, or not.
Issues, as in Britain, are the economy (OKish, could be better), immigration (UKIP counterpart has picked up 6% from the mainstream centre-right), a bit about training and apprenticeships and a bit about tax (much higher than in Britain with much better services - people aren't much bothered but the centre-right would reduce it a bit).
Genuine question: is the key number not just 35? Once you have achieved that you are on the ballot. Or do people think that MPs will be influential with their local membership and activists once the nomination process is completed?
I have my doubts, especially when there is a relatively long winded hustings process for those taking part but maybe I am underestimating the influence of the local MP who "knows" the candidates so much better than the average member who might be willing to take their advice.
@Claire_Phipps: David Miliband on the Labour "delusion that running away from three election victories is a route to success" http://t.co/MDqnxcddko
The Times also has "Labour's 5 year suicide note". Entertaining stuff
Ever since Major's problems, I've been sort-of expecting the Conservatives to split into two parties; one of the centre-right (roughly socially liberal, economically right) and one of the hard-right (socially and economically right). That hasn't quite happened with UKIP.
I now wonder if it is more likely that Labour will split into three:
*) Scottish Labour *) Centre-left Blairists. *) Milibandists and the moderate-to-hard left.
This might now happen, depending on who is made leader. If we get any form of PR, I can see all these splits happening to both parties.
@michaelsavage: David Miliband: "There is no consolation in any sense of vindication ... I care about the country and the party.” http://t.co/RNdgaK6neq
Steven Woolfe MEP ✔@Steven_Woolfe .@sainsburys Public Affairs team just rang my office to say they WILL NOT fund the #EURef 'YES' campaign. Hope other companies follow suit.. 5:22 PM - 8 Jun 2015
UKIP MEP not only an idiot, but a deceitful idiot.
Steven Woolfe MEP ✔@Steven_Woolfe .@sainsburys Public Affairs team just rang my office to say they WILL NOT fund the #EURef 'YES' campaign. Hope other companies follow suit.. 5:22 PM - 8 Jun 2015
UKIP MEP not only an idiot, but a deceitful idiot.
Woolfe should resign. It was a stupid mistake to make, and instead of apologising he pretends it is a victory. He is either a lying idiot or delusional if he believes what he implies.
Not that resignations mean much to the Farage party anyway. ;-)
The Welsh Assembly banning e-cigs has distracted attention from a series of stories about Betsi Cadwaladr Health Board (which covers North Wales).
This includes [1] a major scandal at Tawel Fan (patients crawling on dirty floors, restrained in bucket chairs and allowed to defecate on the floor), [2] the former chief executive (now sadly diagnosed with breast cancer) moving to England to obtain drugs on the English NHS which are refused in Wales, and [3] the present chief executive suspended with immediate effect yesterday and the Health Board placed in special measures.
It is all building into a pattern of very serious problems for the NHS in Wales, and Labour's stewardship of it.
Anyone looking for an explanation of the Tories surprise victory in the Vale of Clwyd at the GE could probably find some clues in Betsi Cadwaladr.
Thanks for the Danish update (my son lives in Copenhagen).
From my outside perspective ... an interesting electorate. They seem naturally socially democratic and content with high taxes and high welfare payments. And the women, having won the battle for equality, seem happy to let men be men.
But the high recent immigration seems to be producing a backlash.
'I am at a loss, can someone please explain to me why the Welsh Assembly are planning on banning e-cigs in public places? '
Sounds like they've run out of things to do.
It is just that they are so incompetent at the important things that they should be doing - heath, education, economy etc - that they just focus on the easy and irrelevant bits.
It is interesting to speculate on why David Miliband is making these interventions. Is it just another bubbling up of the bitterness about what his brother did to his career and his ambitions? Or does he think he can genuinely influence the current leadership campaign by seeking to reenergise the Blairites who were so dissipated, ignored and disillusioned during Ed's reign?
If so, and the even bigger if of assuming he can, who does this benefit? Kendall? Burnham was a Blairite once but that was a long time ago.
I think his brother did not just destroy his career but took away his passion and that he will be looking for some sort of role once his time as a Thunderbird comes to an end. If Labour regain power before he is in his dotage and if he is seen to have played a part there may be a job for him. Maybe as an EU Commissioner?
It is interesting to speculate on why David Miliband is making these interventions. Is it just another bubbling up of the bitterness about what his brother did to his career and his ambitions? Or does he think he can genuinely influence the current leadership campaign by seeking to reenergise the Blairites who were so dissipated, ignored and disillusioned during Ed's reign?
Ed may have been crap but at least he wasn't a bottler.
It is interesting to speculate on why David Miliband is making these interventions. Is it just another bubbling up of the bitterness about what his brother did to his career and his ambitions? Or does he think he can genuinely influence the current leadership campaign by seeking to reenergise the Blairites who were so dissipated, ignored and disillusioned during Ed's reign?
Ed may have been crap but at least he wasn't a bottler.
Oh I agree. The failure to challenge the madness of King Brown is an irredeemable stain on all those that were in that cabinet (including Burnham and Cooper) but those who were in senior positions bear a particular responsibility. If David had had the courage to act when Darling went to see him the politics of the last decade could have been very different.
In regards to your comments on the Danish election ; it seems to me that the benefits of incumbency and the personal popularity of Schmidt SHOULD be enough to scrape a small victory .....the fact that the centre right has been ahead in the polls for years until this last month or so bodes an ill wind for them as the centre left now has the momentum and folks do tend to remain with the status quo when an election is this close Schmidt seems to have a spring in her step and reading from her body language she seems somewhat confident of winning ...a week can be a long time in politics , but I'd guess that she will win
"Halsey mother has filed paperwork to have a popular graphic novel banned from the Central Linn High School library.
There's just one hitch: Taffey Anderson refuses to return "The Book of Bunny Suicides" to the school district so a committee can review her complaint.
She won't budge. In fact, she reportedly plans to burn the book.
Two weeks after students at the school discussed the First Amendment as part of Banned Book Week, Principal Julie Knoedler said Anderson's challenge is timely if not frustrating.
"I understand her feeling very strongly about her rights, values and responsibility as a parent," Knoedler said. "But I'm disappointed that she is forcing us to buy another copy beenjoycan review the book.""
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I think that the joyless puritans that have appointed themselves as our moral guardians think that we may be enjoying vaping too much.
The tyranny of the do gooder and all that.
Go cold turkey and stuff the fag companies.. they own the e-cig firms anyway. they will get you one way or another.. Two days of strong will and you are ok and free of the filthy habit.
'I am at a loss, can someone please explain to me why the Welsh Assembly are planning on banning e-cigs in public places? '
Sounds like they've run out of things to do.
One man's running a surplus is another man's taking more in taxes than is needed.
Of course, one man who won't be running a surplus is George Osborne, so Labour might propose an amendment dismissing any Chancellor, like Osborne, who runs a deficit.
Be assured, certainly in the US, regulation is coming.
seems like a bizarre activity to me. but then I'm here in Japan where you can still experience the joy of a lungfull of second hand smoke over your sashimi
and not a fan of standard mathematics either I'll wager
Don't give Chilcot any ideas....
Let's hope the reinvigorated commission will do better than the last one! Have we seen their final report from the 1860s?
And lol. LDs right wing. Okay.
But seriously.
He even gets things wrong in the comments below the article, when he says that putting the Lib Dems on the 'left' would mean the left got a bigger increase.
Incredible.
I liked the photo in the article at the top of the previous thread - not because of the people in it, but because of the general colour scheme and the gentle woodlandy background. It reminded me of this photo, which contains an impressively delightful person who is significant because this month is the tenth anniversary.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHFRDtkXIAAv-oz.jpg
BBC Breakfast have just had a segment from Bempton on the East Yorkshire coast, where I once saw a suicidal rabbit jump off the cliffs whilst I was doing a remote radio interview with BBC Radio Humberside.
One of the more surreal moments of my life.
Danish update for punters or anyone else interested: the centre-right has seemingly stopped the rot, and the polls for the last couple of days are exactly even down to the decimal point - 50.0% each. The individual polls are varying with either side up to 1.5% ahead. If anyone took my advice to punt on Thorning when the price was longer, it'd arguably be worth taking the profit now.
The poisition is now where we were in Britain - the PM is ahead both in personal ratings and perceived economic competence, but the Government as a whole isn't very popular so the polls are even after several years of small opposition leads. If this persists up to polling day, it'll be interesting to see if the result of that is a British style "oh well, stick to what we've got" result, or not.
Issues, as in Britain, are the economy (OKish, could be better), immigration (UKIP counterpart has picked up 6% from the mainstream centre-right), a bit about training and apprenticeships and a bit about tax (much higher than in Britain with much better services - people aren't much bothered but the centre-right would reduce it a bit).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_of_Bunny_Suicides
It was a bit depressing really. I mean, I know my voice is awful, but I didn't think the interview was *that* bad.
Is it possible for rabbits to breed with lemmings?
The Times also has "Labour's 5 year suicide note". Entertaining stuff
I have my doubts, especially when there is a relatively long winded hustings process for those taking part but maybe I am underestimating the influence of the local MP who "knows" the candidates so much better than the average member who might be willing to take their advice.
I now wonder if it is more likely that Labour will split into three:
*) Scottish Labour
*) Centre-left Blairists.
*) Milibandists and the moderate-to-hard left.
This might now happen, depending on who is made leader. If we get any form of PR, I can see all these splits happening to both parties.
Translation "Neener, Neener, Neener, Neener, Neener, Neener, Neener, Neener, Neener, Neener"
.@sainsburys Public Affairs team just rang my office to say they WILL NOT fund the #EURef 'YES' campaign. Hope other companies follow suit..
5:22 PM - 8 Jun 2015
UKIP MEP not only an idiot, but a deceitful idiot.
Not that resignations mean much to the Farage party anyway. ;-)
This includes [1] a major scandal at Tawel Fan (patients crawling on dirty floors, restrained in bucket chairs and allowed to defecate on the floor), [2] the former chief executive (now sadly diagnosed with breast cancer) moving to England to obtain drugs on the English NHS which are refused in Wales, and [3] the present chief executive suspended with immediate effect yesterday and the Health Board placed in special measures.
It is all building into a pattern of very serious problems for the NHS in Wales, and Labour's stewardship of it.
Anyone looking for an explanation of the Tories surprise victory in the Vale of Clwyd at the GE could probably find some clues in Betsi Cadwaladr.
Thanks for the Danish update (my son lives in Copenhagen).
From my outside perspective ... an interesting electorate. They seem naturally socially democratic and content with high taxes and high welfare payments. And the women, having won the battle for equality, seem happy to let men be men.
But the high recent immigration seems to be producing a backlash.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-33047817
makes me think of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyfaB8SW5Sw
Because she is running for deputy speaker maybe she won't ?
If so, and the even bigger if of assuming he can, who does this benefit? Kendall? Burnham was a Blairite once but that was a long time ago.
I think his brother did not just destroy his career but took away his passion and that he will be looking for some sort of role once his time as a Thunderbird comes to an end. If Labour regain power before he is in his dotage and if he is seen to have played a part there may be a job for him. Maybe as an EU Commissioner?
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In regards to your comments on the Danish election ; it seems to me that the benefits of incumbency and the personal popularity of Schmidt SHOULD be enough to scrape a small victory .....the fact that the centre right has been ahead in the polls for years until this last month or so bodes an ill wind for them as the centre left now has the momentum and folks do tend to remain with the status quo when an election is this close
Schmidt seems to have a spring in her step and reading from her body language she seems somewhat confident of winning ...a week can be a long time in politics , but I'd guess that she will win
"Halsey mother has filed paperwork to have a popular graphic novel banned from the Central Linn High School library.
There's just one hitch: Taffey Anderson refuses to return "The Book of Bunny Suicides" to the school district so a committee can review her complaint.
She won't budge. In fact, she reportedly plans to burn the book.
Two weeks after students at the school discussed the First Amendment as part of Banned Book Week, Principal Julie Knoedler said Anderson's challenge is timely if not frustrating.
"I understand her feeling very strongly about her rights, values and responsibility as a parent," Knoedler said. "But I'm disappointed that she is forcing us to buy another copy beenjoycan review the book.""
http://www.oregonlive.com/news/index.ssf/2008/10/ore_mom_wont_return_bunny_suic.html#post
I wonder if she is Welsh.
I just enjoy scratching my back with next doors formerly annoying dead cat, which now has a use in life .. Er .. Death.
The frightening thing is that kind of trivial knee jerk is precisely the kind of thing all our liberal left goons get outraged about.