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All three front runners for the LAB leadership – Burnham/Kendal/Cooper have seen increases in their MP nomination totals. The other two – Corbyn/Creagh – have seen no change and they are still a very long way off the 35 that’s required.
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Kendall's support is concentrated mainly on east, south London MP's and Cardiff.
Cooper's support is more widespread but still it tends to cluster around west London, Birmingham and Sunderland.
Burnham's is still almost exclusively from the north.
Of course the ideological makeup of MP's would be equally interesting.
IIRC politicians haven't known a) the rate of VAT [AJ], b) the cost of petrol [AB], c) the OAP [NC], weekly family shopping bill [EM].
It's not hard is it? And they were out by miles or didn't know a simple fact in AJ's case.
My real issue is that it doesn't need to be the *personal* experience of politician - afterall most of them are in the top 10% of earners. However, if they're going to take a position, it's surely just sensible to actually *know* what others live on and spend as a % of their net income.
This really annoys me when they get it wrong. Politicians who get all outraged and damp eyed, then don't even know some basic cost of living facts?? It's risible faux behaviour.
I think there is a business to be made in providing a weekly news service to MP's. Price of a pint, of a loaf, of a litre of fuel, together with a brief summary of soap plotlines....
Andy
PLP Nominations
Debbie Abrahams MP for Oldham East and Saddleworth
Heidi Alexander MP for Lewisham East
Dave Anderson MP for Blaydon
Luciana Berger MP for Liverpool, Wavertree
Clive Betts MP for Sheffield South East
Kevin Brennan MP for Cardiff West
David Crausby MP for Bolton North East
Alex Cunningham MP for Stockton North
Wayne David MP for Caerphilly
Peter Dowd MP for Bootle
Michael Dugher MP for Barnsley East
Bill Esterson MP for Sefton Central
Paul Farrelly MP for Newcastle-Under-Lyme
Yvonne Fovargue MP for Makerfield
Pat Glass MP for North West Durham
Mary Glindon MP for North Tyneside
Lilian Greenwood MP for Nottingham South
Nia Griffith MP for Llanelli
Andrew Gwynne MP for Denton and Reddish
Harry Harpham MP for Sheffield Brightside & Hillsborough
Carolyn Harris MP for Swansea East
Dan Jarvis MP for Barnsley Central
Graham Jones MP for Hyndburn
Barbara Keeley MP for Worsley and Eccles South
Ian Lavery MP for Wansbeck
Emma Lewell-Buck MP for South Shields
Justin Madders MP for Ellesmere Port and Neston
Chris Matheson MP for City of Chester
Kerry McCarthy MP for Bristol East
Andy McDonald MP for Middlesbrough
Conor McGinn MP for St Helens North
Liz McInnes MP for Heywood and Middleton
Ian Mearns MP for Gateshead
Albert Owen MP for Ynys Mon
Lucy Powell MP for Manchester Central
Angela Rayner MP for Ashton-Under-Lyne
Christina Rees MP for Neath
Rachel Reeves MP for Leeds West
Steve Rotheram MP for Liverpool, Walton
Owen Smith MP for Pontypridd
Jo Stevens MP for Cardiff Central
Nick Thomas-Symonds MP for Torfaen
Anna Turley MP for Redcar
Karl Turner MP for Kingston Upon Hull East
Derek Twigg MP for Halton
Alan Whitehead MP for Southampton Test
Iain Wright MP for Hartlepool
Stephen Hepburn MP for Jarrow
Holly Lynch MP for Halifax
Rachael Maskell MP for York Central
Yasmin Qureshi MP for Bolton South East
Valerie Vaz MP for Walsall South
Lisa Nandy MP for Wigan
PLP Nominations
Thangham Debonnaire MP for Bristol West
Susan Elan Jones MP for Clwyd South
Mike Kane MP for Wythenshawe and Sale East
Stephen Kinnock MP for Aberavon
Tulip Siddiq MP for Hampstead and Kilburn
PLP Nominations
Grahame Morris MP for Easington
Diane Abbott MP for Hackney North and Stoke Newington
Ronnie Campbell MP for Blyth Valley
Kelvin Hopkins MP for Luton North
Clive Lewis MP for Norwich South
John McDonnell MP for Hayes and Harlington
Kate Osamor MP for Edmonton
Dennis Skinner MP for Bolsover
Cat Smith MP for Lancaster and Fleetwood
Frank Field MP for Birkenhead
Jon Trickett MP for Hemsworth
PLP Nominations
Kevin Barron MP for Rother Valley
Tom Blenkinsop MP for Middlesbrough South and East Cleveland
Jenny Chapman MP for Darlington
Ann Coffey MP for Stockport
Simon Danczuk MP for Rochdale
Gloria De Piero MP for Ashfield
Stephen Doughty MP for Cardiff South and Penarth
Julie Elliott MP for Sunderland Central
Louise Ellman MP for Liverpool, Riverside
Chris Evans MP for Islwyn
Paul Flynn MP for Newport West
Mike Gapes MP for Ilford South
Margaret Hodge MP for Barking
Tristram Hunt MP for Stoke-On-Trent Central
Peter Kyle MP for Hove
Ivan Lewis MP for Bury South
Fiona Mactaggart MP for Slough
Pat McFadden MP for Wolverhampton South East
Jessica Morden MP for Newport East
Toby Perkins MP for Chesterfield
Steve Reed MP for Croydon North
Johnny Reynolds MP for Stalybridge and Hyde
Joan Ryan MP for Enfield North
Barry Sheerman MP for Huddersfield
Gavin Shuker MP for Luton South
Nick Smith MP for Blaenau Gwent
Angela Smith MP for Penistone and Stocksbridge
Wes Streeting MP for Ilford North
Gisela Stuart MP for Birmingham, Edgbaston
Stephen Timms MP for East Ham
Stephen Twigg MP for Liverpool, West Derby
Phil Wilson MP for Sedgefield
Jim Dowd MP for Lewisham West & Penge
Emma Reynolds MP for Wolverhampton North East
Chuka Umunna MP for Streatham
Siobhain McDonagh MP for Mitcham and Morden
PLP Nominations
Ian Austin MP for Dudley North
Lyn Brown MP for West Ham
Chris Bryant MP for Rhondda
Liam Byrne MP for Birmingham, Hodge Hill
Ruth Cadbury MP for Brentford and Isleworth
Vernon Coaker MP for Gedling
Judith Cummins MP for Bradford South
Jim Cunningham MP for Coventry South
Geraint Davies MP for Swansea West
Jack Dromey MP for Birmingham, Erdington
Coleen Fletcher MP for Coventry North East
Vicky Foxcroft MP for Lewisham, Deptford
Kate Green MP for Stretford and Urmston
David Hanson MP for Delyn
Sharon Hodgson MP for Washington and Sunderland West
Diana Johnson MP for Hull North
Kevan Jones MP for North Durham
Helen Jones MP for Warrington North
Khalid Mahmood MP for Birmingham, Perry Barr
Shabana Mahmood MP for Birmingham, Ladywood
Seema Malhotra MP for Feltham and Heston
Stephen McCabe MP for Birmingham, Selly Oak
Catherine McKinnell MP for Newcastle Upon Tyne North
Matthew Pennycook MP for Greenwich and Woolwich
Jess Phillips MP for Birmingham Yardley
Bridget Phillipson MP for Houghton and Sunderland South
Stephen Pound MP for Ealing North
Marie Rimmer MP for St Helens South and Whiston
Virendra Sharma MP for Ealing, Southall
Paula Sherriff MP for Dewsbury
Ruth Smeeth MP for Stoke-on-Trent North
John Spellar MP for Warley
Adrian Bailey MP for West Bromwich West
Nick Brown MP for Newcastle Upon Tyne East
Helen Goodman MP for Bishop Auckland
Fabian Hamilton MP for Leeds North East
John Healey MP for Wentworth and Dearne
Melanie Onn MP for Great Grimsby
Geoffrey Robinson MP for Coventry North West
Andrew Slaughter MP for Hammersmith
Jonathan Ashworth MP for Leicester South
"Andy Burnham's attempts to portray himself as a man of the people backfired today when he was exposed for not knowing the price of petrol."
So, it appears the Mail thinks that by definition an ordinary person must own a car. How sad, etc, is that?
The idea of a weekly list of these things to MPs sounds like an ok idea though, they'll keep getting asked these things and silly as it is it does cause embarrassment.
Yvette 41 noms, Liz 36, Jeremy 11, Mary 5, Andy 53
Just piss-poor politics.
PLP Nominations
Debbie Abrahams MP for Oldham East and Saddleworth
Stella Creasy MP for Walthamstow
Stephen Doughty MP for Cardiff South and Penarth
Kate Green MP for Stretford and Urmston
Dan Jarvis MP for Barnsley Central
Fiona Mactaggart MP for Slough
Wes Streeting MP for Ilford North
Stephen Twigg MP for Liverpool, West Derby
Jamie Reed MP for Copeland
Gareth Thomas MP for Harrow West
I've not been really involved witn serious campaigning for a while, but I'd be up for working for IN. As I did in 1975.
PLP Nominations
Tom Blenkinsop MP for Middlesbrough South and East Cleveland
Ann Coffey MP for Stockport
Alex Cunningham MP for Stockton North
Nic Dakin MP for Scunthorpe
Wayne David MP for Caerphilly
Julie Elliott MP for Sunderland Central
Jim Fitzpatrick MP for Poplar and Limehouse
Caroline Flint MP for Don Valley
Yvonne Fovargue MP for Makerfield
Barry Gardiner MP for Brent North
Mary Glindon MP for North Tyneside
Carolyn Harris MP for Swansea East
George Howarth MP for Knowsley
Graham Jones MP for Hyndburn
Gerald Kaufman MP for Manchester Gorton
Stephen Kinnock MP for Aberavon
Siobhain McDonagh MP for Mitcham and Morden
Jessica Morden MP for Newport East
Albert Owen MP for Ynys Mon
Johnny Reynolds MP for Stalybridge and Hyde
Joan Ryan MP for Enfield North
Owen Smith MP for Pontypridd
Angela Smith MP for Penistone and Stocksbridge
Gisela Stuart MP for Birmingham, Edgbaston
Anna Turley MP for Redcar
Karl Turner MP for Kingston Upon Hull East
Alan Whitehead MP for Southampton Test
Phil Wilson MP for Sedgefield
Jim Dowd MP for Lewisham West & Penge
Toby Perkins MP for Chesterfield
PLP Nominations
Kevin Barron MP for Rother Valley
Clive Betts MP for Sheffield South East
Ruth Cadbury MP for Brentford and Isleworth
Simon Danczuk MP for Rochdale
Clive Efford MP for Eltham
Louise Ellman MP for Liverpool, Riverside
Fabian Hamilton MP for Leeds North East
Harry Harpham MP for Sheffield Brightside & Hillsborough
Madeleine Moon MP for Bridgend
Paula Sherriff MP for Dewsbury
Andrew Slaughter MP for Hammersmith
Derek Twigg MP for Halton
Paul Blomfield MP for Sheffield Central
John Healey MP for Wentworth and Dearne
Ivan Lewis MP for Bury South
Holly Lynch MP for Halifax
Gordon Marsden MP for Blackpool South
PLP Nominations
Maria Eagle MP for Garston and Halewood
Bill Esterson MP for Sefton Central
Mike Gapes MP for Ilford South
Pat Glass MP for North West Durham
Nia Griffith MP for Llanelli
Mark Hendrick MP for Preston
Sharon Hodgson MP for Washington and Sunderland West
Kelvin Hopkins MP for Luton North
Liz McInnes MP for Heywood and Middleton
Stephen Pound MP for Ealing North
Marie Rimmer MP for St Helens South and Whiston
Tulip Siddiq MP for Hampstead and Kilburn
PLP Nominations
Dave Anderson MP for Blaydon
Jon Ashworth MP for Leicester South
Ian Austin MP for Dudley North
Adrian Bailey MP for West Bromwich West
Kevin Brennan MP for Cardiff West
Liam Byrne MP for Birmingham, Hodge Hill
Ronnie Campbell MP for Blyth Valley
Vernon Coaker MP for Gedling
David Crausby MP for Bolton North East
Jon Cruddas MP for Dagenham
Judith Cummins MP for Bradford South
Jim Cunningham MP for Coventry South
Gloria De Piero MP for Ashfield
Michael Dugher MP for Barnsley East
Paul Farrelly MP for Newcastle-Under-Lyme
Rob Flello MP for Stoke-On-Trent South
Coleen Fletcher MP for Coventry North East
Vicky Foxcroft MP for Lewisham, Deptford
Louise Haig MP for Sheffield, Heeley
Kevan Jones MP for North Durham
Helen Jones MP for Warrington North
Barbara Keeley MP for Worsley and Eccles South
Ian Lavery MP for Wansbeck
Emma Lewell-Buck MP for South Shields
Clive Lewis MP for Norwich South
Justin Madders MP for Ellesmere Port and Neston
Khalid Mahmood MP for Birmingham, Perry Barr
Shabana Mahmood MP for Birmingham, Ladywood
Rob Marris MP for Wolverhampton South West
Chris Matheson MP for City of Chester
Stephen McCabe MP for Birmingham, Selly Oak
Andy McDonald MP for Middlesbrough
Conor McGinn MP for St Helens North
Ian Mearns MP for Gateshead
Grahame Morris MP for Easington
Lisa Nandy MP for Wigan
Kate Osamor MP for Edmonton
Lucy Powell MP for Manchester Central
Naz Shah MP for Bradford West
Virendra Sharma MP for Ealing, Southall
Ruth Smeeth MP for Stoke-on-Trent North
John Spellar MP for Warley
Jo Stevens MP for Cardiff Central
Tom Watson MP for West Bromwich East
David Winnick MP for Walsall North
Iain Wright MP for Hartlepool
Stephen Hepburn MP for Jarrow
Jess Phillips MP for Birmingham Yardley
Geoffrey Robinson MP for Coventry North West
Jeff Smith MP for Manchester Withington
Merkel is pushing EU expansion in the Balkans back up the agenda.
PLP Nominations
Lyn Brown MP for West Ham
Seema Malhotra MP for Feltham and Heston
Chuka Umunna MP for Streatham
Yasmin Quereshi MP for Bolton South East
PLP Nominations
Heidi Alexander MP for Lewisham East
Ben Bradshaw MP for Exeter
Paul Flynn MP for Newport West
Alan Johnson MP for Hull West and Hessle
Diana Johnson MP for Hull North
Susan Elan Jones MP for Clwyd South
Peter Kyle MP for Hove
Kerry McCarthy MP for Bristol East
Stephen Timms MP for East Ham
Chris Evans MP for Islwyn
Frank Field MP for Birkenhead
I know the local price of fuel because I have to fill up the tank once, maybe twice a week and am always looking for best price. I doubt Burnham needs to watch the pennies quite as much as the average joe.
I'd rather have a politician who has a brain to sort out issues than one who has filled his brain with useless prices of grapefruits, bread and petrol just in case he gets asked worthless questions.
They're just traps. If you say you don't know, you are classed as out-of-touch; if you get it too low, you are a liar. If you get it too high, then you are either a liar or get really expensive, posho ones.
Win by 210 runs? Normally struggle to score that many.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/oct/01/david-cameron-price-of-bread
The criticism was pathetic then, and it's pathetic now.
Still, Labour made the cost of living for ordinary people a big part of its offering. So entirely predictable that you might be asked about it and sensible to be prepared for such a question.
And if you don't know because you're too busy say so instead of pretending.
It's the falseness and insincerity that grates. And it would not do MPs any harm to live like the rest of us. Their jobs are not, frankly, that more important than lots of other jobs where people have to work long hours, juggle family life and manage a budget etc.
Stella Creasy is good, Ben Bradshaw has his moments, but the rest!
It's one of these cases where the question says more about the interviewer than it does the interviewee.
About the only honest answer would be: "Look, I'm in a very fortunate situation where I can afford to buy (insert applicable consumable) without really thinking about the cost. I know many people are not in that position, and that is why we will try to reduce the price of (insert applicable consumable) and other everyday items for everyone."
And even that would get slated.
But if they're asked a question and don't know, how refreshing would it be for them to say just that and that they'll go away and find out. Honesty rather than bluster.
Mrs T was the only politician who gave the impression that she knew down to the last penny what everything in the country cost when the reality was that she had never really ever been a housewife in her life.
Of course you have no idea what the future outside the EU looks like. You don't have any idea what the future inside it looks like (except bleak). We can't predict the future, and as I've shown, companies move where the bottom line takes them. Only the other week a major Irish businessman said that if we left, Ireland would have to follow the UK out of the EU in order to compete economically and stop every company coming here.
Furthermore, leaving the EU is hardly a leap into some unknown chasm -Australia, Singapore, Norway, Switzerland, etc. etc. even this country within living memory - all seem to somehow struggle on without the blessing of EU membership.
Your mention of Scotland only highlights the differences. There is no currency question. There is no question over ministries of state having to be replicated; there is no question over diplomatic services having to be created. There is no issue of having to find an army. It's not a country cutting itself in half, it is a sovereign nation leaving a dysfunctional conglomerate.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/jimwaterson/taste-the-diffidence#.fwXLnrdN0
*I think I may have just violated the first rule of tautology club there.
I haven't been this irked in a very long time
It is going to be a long year.
Might have been different if they had another bowler of Boult's class though.
Harrow East CLP: Jowell and Thomas
Gareth Thomas is now at 4 noms.1 day left
I'm quite optimistic now about the wisdom of buying tickets to three of the one dayers v Australia in September
http://tinyurl.com/NoAmericanTanksInBaghdad
Of course Britain survived before 1973 - though not very well - hence the collective loss of self-confidence which, in part, propelled us in. But the world now is different. It will be a leap into the unknown. There is a big difference between never having joined and having to unpick yourself from an organisation you've been a member of for decades. That is likely to be more difficult and more costly than people might envisage, even if it's the best course.
There aren't that many good examples: the Velvet divorce in Czechoslovakia is the only one I can think of. Otherwise in Europe what is there? Ireland leaving the UK; Yugoslavia; the break up of the Soviet Union. I'm not saying there will be war or civil strife. But there will be costs and those costs may well be borne by those least able to bear them - a bit like immigration, perhaps. So you need to think how to persuade those who will bear the costs to vote for you.
Of course, Britain can survive and prosper without the EU - and can also survive and prosper within the EU.
It's just that they would be, in some respects, different sorts of Britains.
The "No" campaign is asking people to make a change to the status quo and so it needs to have a very compelling and attractive answer to people who will, rightly, be worried about what it means for them.
"Britain will be a sovereign nation trading with the world" etc may be right and may be attractive as a general statement. It may not be enough for the man in his 50's who is worried that he might lose his job, find it difficult to get another one and worries that he will be the one bearing the sacrifice for the bright tomorrow. So the campaign will have to have an answer that makes sense to him.
Why is it everyone who loses wants voting reform, then they don't care about it when they get back in?
Hmmm.
Personally I've grown to like FPTP - it forces parties to form a much broader consensus than just piling up votes with their special interest groups.
WHY ???
Personally I don't care in the slightest if a politician is out of touch in almost any way. They could still be a very good representative for ordinary people, or have policies that benefit ordinary people (ideally everyone, but you cannot please everyone all of the time), whether they know the cost of a pint of milk or not*. Knowing ordinary people through shared experience can be a help, but it's not automatically going to be one, nor the lack mean you cannot be a help to them.
*And that question is almost certainly even more of a trap than petrol - I've not paid above a £1.00 for 4pts in years, but then I don't buy single pints, which no doubt is more like 50-70p and not the equivalent of 25p I've been paying as a result.
Good night all.
I really cannot understand what is going on. I was always curious as to how the state of hysteria could arise that resulted in the banning of songs, christmas and things that people 'enjoyed', purely because they enjoyed them during the interregnum of the 17thC.
These e-cigs are quite possibly the biggest breakthrough in public health since the discovery of penicillin, yet because people derive pleasure from it, they want to ban it.
I have no reason to favour the WA view. While I know of cig>e-cig switchers I have no evidence of a non-smoker>e-cig swing.
Whereas in the NHS organisation where I work we have had two staff members (one clinical) quit smoking via e-cigs, they happily puff away in the office.
positively tantric