FPT Nick Palmer. Hope you're doing well and commiserations. But I am sure you've plenty of worthy work to keep you out of mischief.
Re poverty, as a kid in Malta and Cyprus, the family had a fridge, but when we were in the UK we did not until 1972. We did not think of ourselves as poor. I remember schoolmates in Exmouth who had outside loos. And of course, no-one but no-one had central heating.
I agree with you that we should aspire for our poorest to do better than Mali by a long shot. But poverty should not simply be relative - there should be some link to meeting the basic needs of life - food, shelter, health - rather than just x% of y. And we should never forget what real poverty is. I am a firm believer that a Westerner's education is not complete until they have been to a Mali or Yemen, etc...
Unless we set meaningful metrics, programmes will always miss the mark as we'll have the wrong measure of progress.
That Antifrank article is great. This bollocks about Labour doing badly with "aspirational voters" just isn't borne out by reality: the real problem is there's a huge divergence between their results in the big cities and everywhere else, irrespective of wealth. Which as far as I see it is one of the main arguments in favour of Burnham: he may have a lot of flaws, but one thing he definitely isn't is a metropolitan.
A lot of the southern towns where Labour are doing badly are really quite poor. I really can't see the logic in saying that Labour would do better in those places if they pledged to cut public services more and been nicer to millionaires and big businesses.
That Antifrank article is great. This bollocks about Labour doing badly with "aspirational voters" just isn't borne out by reality: the real problem is there's a huge divergence between their results in the big cities and everywhere else, irrespective of wealth. Which as far as I see it is one of the main arguments in favour of Burnham: he may have a lot of flaws, but one thing he definitely isn't is a metropolitan.
A lot of the southern towns where Labour are doing badly are really quite poor. I really can't see the logic in saying that Labour would do better in those places if they pledged to cut public services more and been nicer to millionaires and big businesses.
I agree. I don't think big business is terribly popular, in those Southern towns.
But, people running small businesses got the impression that Labour hated them. And Metropolitan concerns about race and gender don't go down well.
That Antifrank article is great. This bollocks about Labour doing badly with "aspirational voters" just isn't borne out by reality: the real problem is there's a huge divergence between their results in the big cities and everywhere else, irrespective of wealth. Which as far as I see it is one of the main arguments in favour of Burnham: he may have a lot of flaws, but one thing he definitely isn't is a metropolitan.
A lot of the southern towns where Labour are doing badly are really quite poor. I really can't see the logic in saying that Labour would do better in those places if they pledged to cut public services more and been nicer to millionaires and big businesses.
I agree. I don't think big business is terribly popular, in those Southern towns.
But, people running small businesses got the impression that Labour hated them. And Metropolitan concerns about race and gender don't go down well.
I agree that gender, immigration, and the general perception of politically-correct humourlessness, are big handicaps for Labour in most of the seats they need to win (though ironically, the supposed "centrist" Kendall is the leadership candidate who is the most enthusiastic about the EU I think).
8. Interesting line for her to take. Quite frankly it must take superhuman efforts not be smug all the time at how every option offers some benefit, some more than others.
16. Well that's no surprise. Hell, really there should be no problems, as we have enough sci-fi stories about the dangers to our humanity to avoid them.
12. It's not me that needs convincing, but however much it is needed or not, it ain't happening. Will enough parties next time who support it win enough seats under the current system to then want to change it?
I think Michael White's most interesting point in his article was:
" The leak was so amateur (can this be Carmichael’s first time?) it took only a few phone records to trace it. "
I agree with his analysis, but it does beg the question why it took 7 weeks to investigate. It would be interesting to know exactly when the Cabinet Office identified who was responsible, particularly as anyone with a passing interest in this sorry affair had worked out it was a LibDem leak by 6th April.
I heard a collective groan from the London MSM as Malcolm Bruce broke out his golden spade and started digging for Australia, having tried their level best to ignore the story these guys have finally woken up - see below for a summary of the headlines:
An interesting quote below from Mr Bruce about the Oldham verdict:
" Oldham verdict price of lying
The court ruling which, subject to a judicial review, has cost Phil Woolas his parliamentary career, shows that lying about an opponent to win a seat has potentially devastating consequences.Mr Woolas defeated his Liberal Democrat opponent by just 103 votes and it seems highly likely the damagingly untruthful publications he put out made the difference. "
In all seriousness, I detect some in UKIP feel like they have to win the right way, or at least fight the right way, rather than being willing to try anything to win, funnily enough.
I think Michael White's most interesting point in his article was:
" The leak was so amateur (can this be Carmichael’s first time?) it took only a few phone records to trace it. "
I agree with his analysis, but it does beg the question why it took 7 weeks to investigate. It would be interesting to know exactly when the Cabinet Office identified who was responsible, particularly as anyone with a passing interest in this sorry affair had worked out it was a LibDem leak by 6th April.
I heard a collective groan from the London MSM as Malcolm Bruce broke out his golden spade and started digging for Australia, having tried their level best to ignore the story these guys have finally woken up - see below for a summary of the headlines:
An interesting quote below from Mr Bruce about the Oldham verdict:
" Oldham verdict price of lying
The court ruling which, subject to a judicial review, has cost Phil Woolas his parliamentary career, shows that lying about an opponent to win a seat has potentially devastating consequences.Mr Woolas defeated his Liberal Democrat opponent by just 103 votes and it seems highly likely the damagingly untruthful publications he put out made the difference. "
Michael White is a newsman I cannot stand. He lies and elaborates so much and when he does he rolls his eyes, so you can tell at once when truth flies out the window.
“Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union?”
I was weirdly musing on this on the bus home tonight and thought it would end up being a Yes to stay in question. Sensible. Makes the staying in a positive acclamation.
I see one of the big success stories for the UK in recent years, JLR, is planning to build factories in eastern Europe and move some production to Austria. This should ease pressure on immigration, eh, Mr Knobend Farage?
FPT Nick Palmer. Hope you're doing well and commiserations. But I am sure you've plenty of worthy work to keep you out of mischief.
Re poverty, as a kid in Malta and Cyprus, the family had a fridge, but when we were in the UK we did not until 1972. We did not think of ourselves as poor. I remember schoolmates in Exmouth who had outside loos. And of course, no-one but no-one had central heating.
I agree with you that we should aspire for our poorest to do better than Mali by a long shot. But poverty should not simply be relative - there should be some link to meeting the basic needs of life - food, shelter, health - rather than just x% of y. And we should never forget what real poverty is. I am a firm believer that a Westerner's education is not complete until they have been to a Mali or Yemen, etc...
Unless we set meaningful metrics, programmes will always miss the mark as we'll have the wrong measure of progress.
Thanks, Tim - yes, I'm fine, did my best but genuinely wasn't too bothered either way. Planning a nice long holiday in the States in August, starting with the world boardgames convention in Lancaster, PA.
I agree with all your points - really what it comes down to is saying what we mean, not just lazily saying "poverty". A healthy society IMO needs to avoid absolute destitution altogether (even for people who do nothing whatever - we just don't want anyone starving in the street), and beyond that provide a reasonable number of chances to people to make their way to success. My main quarrel with the "People should look after themselves" mantra is that it underestimates just how much luck there is in life - birth, parents, environment, etc. - so we need to give not just support at the bottom but a chance to recover from bad turnings. (America in some ways does that bit better than we do.)
And yes, I've known several people whose outlook on life was utterly transformed by a year in Africa. One elderly woman who I know is famously equable - she says that after seeing Malawi 40 years ago she decided to never grumble again, and just quietly try to help.
Awaiting news regarding a special forces raid well inside Syria last night, in a North East region where ISIS have a firm grip. Nothing has really come out yet but it wasn't to have a sniff around. This is perhaps the highest tempo of actual assault penetration ops seen yet, a massive 2 in a couple of weeks.....
The US always has decent comms & distance intelligence, are they finding ways to get Mark 1 eyeball intelligence as well?
They should have asked me on what the question to be
Q: Do you want to be a narrow little nationalist like the SNP and whinge and blame somebody else for all your ills and become an economic basket case by leaving the EU?
Evening all. What next for Stormont after the defeat of the Welfare Reform Bill?
Time for Cameron to appoint an English Viceroy to run Northern Ireland?
Thing is that the Nationalists seem to want the evil Brits to take over and then they can just blame Tories for the cuts that have to be made. You could have written the rubbish spouted today weeks or even years ago.
The Tories are apparently not scrapping the Human Rights Act after all. - Newsnight
According to the front page of the times
The prime minister has delayed the introduction of a British Bill of Rights, which will not be in the first wave of bills introduced into the Commons after the Queen’s Speech today. The bill, which seeks to limit abuse of human rights laws, has faced a backlash from Conservative backbenchers and the judiciary......
However, despite detailed legislation drawn up by Conservative lawyers during the last parliament, a government source said it was now more important to get the bill “right, rather than quickly”, adding that it would be “odd if we did not consult widely”.
This could mean that a full bill is not introduced into the Commons in the first year of this parliament, putting it on a slower timetable than more urgent legislation, such as the EU referendum bill, which will be among the first to be debated by MPs.
FPT Nick Palmer. Hope you're doing well and commiserations. But I am sure you've plenty of worthy work to keep you out of mischief.
Re poverty, as a kid in Malta and Cyprus, the family had a fridge, but when we were in the UK we did not until 1972. We did not think of ourselves as poor. I remember schoolmates in Exmouth who had outside loos. And of course, no-one but no-one had central heating.
I agree with you that we should aspire for our poorest to do better than Mali by a long shot. But poverty should not simply be relative - there should be some link to meeting the basic needs of life - food, shelter, health - rather than just x% of y. And we should never forget what real poverty is. I am a firm believer that a Westerner's education is not complete until they have been to a Mali or Yemen, etc...
Unless we set meaningful metrics, programmes will always miss the mark as we'll have the wrong measure of progress.
Thanks, Tim - yes, I'm fine, did my best but genuinely wasn't too bothered either way. Planning a nice long holiday in the States in August, starting with the world boardgames convention in Lancaster, PA.
I agree with all your points - really what it comes down to is saying what we mean, not just lazily saying "poverty". A healthy society IMO needs to avoid absolute destitution altogether (even for people who do nothing whatever - we just don't want anyone starving in the street), and beyond that provide a reasonable number of chances to people to make their way to success. My main quarrel with the "People should look after themselves" mantra is that it underestimates just how much luck there is in life - birth, parents, environment, etc. - so we need to give not just support at the bottom but a chance to recover from bad turnings. (America in some ways does that bit better than we do.)
And yes, I've known several people whose outlook on life was utterly transformed by a year in Africa. One elderly woman who I know is famously equable - she says that after seeing Malawi 40 years ago she decided to never grumble again, and just quietly try to help.
"Genuinely not too bothered either way.... bullshit.. , you cannot tell me that after investing the amount of time you put into Broxtowe that you were not bothered... indeed it is just as well then that you got caned by Anna Soubry, the right result was achieved.
I cannot believe what you posted was honest and truthful, given you said you never posted anything you knew to be untrue... If it was indeed entirely truthful.. Broxtowe Labour Party should never have selected you.
The Tories are apparently not scrapping the Human Rights Act after all. - Newsnight
According to the front page of the times
The prime minister has delayed the introduction of a British Bill of Rights, which will not be in the first wave of bills introduced into the Commons after the Queen’s Speech today. The bill, which seeks to limit abuse of human rights laws, has faced a backlash from Conservative backbenchers and the judiciary......
However, despite detailed legislation drawn up by Conservative lawyers during the last parliament, a government source said it was now more important to get the bill “right, rather than quickly”, adding that it would be “odd if we did not consult widely”.
This could mean that a full bill is not introduced into the Commons in the first year of this parliament, putting it on a slower timetable than more urgent legislation, such as the EU referendum bill, which will be among the first to be debated by MPs.
Evening all. What next for Stormont after the defeat of the Welfare Reform Bill?
Time for Cameron to appoint an English Viceroy to run Northern Ireland?
Thing is that the Nationalists seem to want the evil Brits to take over and then they can just blame Tories for the cuts that have to be made. You could have written the rubbish spouted today weeks or even years ago.
Its about time they grew the f**k up and made decisions that are a part of actual governing responsibility.
The Tories are apparently not scrapping the Human Rights Act after all. - Newsnight
According to the front page of the times
The prime minister has delayed the introduction of a British Bill of Rights, which will not be in the first wave of bills introduced into the Commons after the Queen’s Speech today. The bill, which seeks to limit abuse of human rights laws, has faced a backlash from Conservative backbenchers and the judiciary......
However, despite detailed legislation drawn up by Conservative lawyers during the last parliament, a government source said it was now more important to get the bill “right, rather than quickly”, adding that it would be “odd if we did not consult widely”.
This could mean that a full bill is not introduced into the Commons in the first year of this parliament, putting it on a slower timetable than more urgent legislation, such as the EU referendum bill, which will be among the first to be debated by MPs.
Another load of meaningless Tory waffle.
First manifesto pledge fudged, only took a fortnight.
While I don't think negotiations will go well at all, it doesn't seem implausible that scrapping the HRA was going to be a bauble dropped in coalition negotiations - given the Tories singularly failed to convince on why it was so necessary to do so, vs the aggravation that would certainly be thrown at them for it, fair or not, and the certainty of at least a few rebels on the issue, it did seem more trouble than it was worth.
Anyone know how to fix NI (or how it can fix itself)? I cannot be the only one so thoroughly defeated by how factional the rhetoric always seems to be, despite a veneer of working togetherness (and knowing how much directly worse things used to be).
I think Michael White's most interesting point in his article was:
" The leak was so amateur (can this be Carmichael’s first time?) it took only a few phone records to trace it. "
I agree with his analysis, but it does beg the question why it took 7 weeks to investigate. It would be interesting to know exactly when the Cabinet Office identified who was responsible, particularly as anyone with a passing interest in this sorry affair had worked out it was a LibDem leak by 6th April.
I heard a collective groan from the London MSM as Malcolm Bruce broke out his golden spade and started digging for Australia, having tried their level best to ignore the story these guys have finally woken up - see below for a summary of the headlines:
An interesting quote below from Mr Bruce about the Oldham verdict:
" Oldham verdict price of lying
The court ruling which, subject to a judicial review, has cost Phil Woolas his parliamentary career, shows that lying about an opponent to win a seat has potentially devastating consequences.Mr Woolas defeated his Liberal Democrat opponent by just 103 votes and it seems highly likely the damagingly untruthful publications he put out made the difference. "
Michael White is a newsman I cannot stand. He lies and elaborates so much and when he does he rolls his eyes, so you can tell at once when truth flies out the window.
At the moment Mr White doesn't seem to have done a very good job of defending Mr Carmichael on TV! Will see what the news reports tomorrow say ... I see the polis (Scotland) have had a complaint made to them as well, no idea by whom or on what basis. And the fundraiser for the electoral petition against Mr C has raised 2/5 of its 60K target in 24 hours.
I think Michael White's most interesting point in his article was:
" The leak was so amateur (can this be Carmichael’s first time?) it took only a few phone records to trace it. "
I agree with his analysis, but it does beg the question why it took 7 weeks to investigate. It would be interesting to know exactly when the Cabinet Office identified who was responsible, particularly as anyone with a passing interest in this sorry affair had worked out it was a LibDem leak by 6th April.
I heard a collective groan from the London MSM as Malcolm Bruce broke out his golden spade and started digging for Australia, having tried their level best to ignore the story these guys have finally woken up - see below for a summary of the headlines:
An interesting quote below from Mr Bruce about the Oldham verdict:
" Oldham verdict price of lying
The court ruling which, subject to a judicial review, has cost Phil Woolas his parliamentary career, shows that lying about an opponent to win a seat has potentially devastating consequences.Mr Woolas defeated his Liberal Democrat opponent by just 103 votes and it seems highly likely the damagingly untruthful publications he put out made the difference. "
Michael White is a newsman I cannot stand. He lies and elaborates so much and when he does he rolls his eyes, so you can tell at once when truth flies out the window.
. And the fundraiser for the electoral petition against Mr C has raised 2/5 of its 60K target in 24 hours.
I should think someone with deep pockets could see that over the line easily enough if it falters, looks better if it's just smaller donations of course.
“Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union?”
No2AV won the AV ref, No won the Indyref, can the outers make it a hat trick for no?
No i mean Yes will win. inners for fookin Yes (iffy)
Nigel Farage wanted the question to be “Do you wish to be a free, independent sovereign democracy?”
Well, do you?
I thought we already were.
If you believe that then you are definitely not the fizziest bottle of pop in the fridge. More to the point, why have you begun this pathetic anti-Ukip campaign? They are more of a threat to Labour than your beloved Tories, or are you worried that the British people might vote to leave the EU?
Evening all. What next for Stormont after the defeat of the Welfare Reform Bill?
Time for Cameron to appoint an English Viceroy to run Northern Ireland?
Thing is that the Nationalists seem to want the evil Brits to take over and then they can just blame Tories for the cuts that have to be made. You could have written the rubbish spouted today weeks or even years ago.
Its about time they grew the f**k up and made decisions that are a part of actual governing responsibility.
Of course it is. But you have people like Marty spouting about how Tories don't have mandate to impose cuts on NI when NI budget is hugely subsidised by England. My Twitter feed was paint by numbers childish rhetoric this afternoon. On a more positive note, I thoroughly enjoyed Friday night at Fermanagh Unionist Hall. Some senior figures were talking up opposition. Of course, that will all be moot if the institutions are suspended again.
“Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union?”
No2AV won the AV ref, No won the Indyref, can the outers make it a hat trick for no?
No i mean Yes will win. inners for fookin Yes (iffy)
Nigel Farage wanted the question to be “Do you wish to be a free, independent sovereign democracy?”
Well, do you?
I thought we already were.
If you believe that then you are definitely not the fizziest bottle of pop in the fridge. More to the point, why have you begun this pathetic anti-Ukip campaign? They are more of a threat to Labour than your beloved Tories, or are you worried that the British people might vote to leave the EU?
Begun? Christ you Kippers are well balanced people with chips on both shoulders.
I've half written one of the Sunday thread's on how OUT can win the referendum.
FPT Nick Palmer. Hope you're doing well and commiserations. But I am sure you've plenty of worthy work to keep you out of mischief.
Re poverty, as a kid in Malta and Cyprus, the family had a fridge, but when we were in the UK we did not until 1972. We did not think of ourselves as poor. I remember schoolmates in Exmouth who had outside loos. And of course, no-one but no-one had central heating.
I agree with you that we should aspire for our poorest to do better than Mali by a long shot. But poverty should not simply be relative - there should be some link to meeting the basic needs of life - food, shelter, health - rather than just x% of y. And we should never forget what real poverty is. I am a firm believer that a Westerner's education is not complete until they have been to a Mali or Yemen, etc...
Unless we set meaningful metrics, programmes will always miss the mark as we'll have the wrong measure of progress.
Thanks, Tim - yes, I'm fine, did my best but genuinely wasn't too bothered either way. Planning a nice long holiday in the States in August, starting with the world boardgames convention in Lancaster, PA.
I agree with all your points - really what it comes down to is saying what we mean, not just lazily saying "poverty". A healthy society IMO needs to avoid absolute destitution altogether (even for people who do nothing whatever - we just don't want anyone starving in the street), and beyond that provide a reasonable number of chances to people to make their way to success. My main quarrel with the "People should look after themselves" mantra is that it underestimates just how much luck there is in life - birth, parents, environment, etc. - so we need to give not just support at the bottom but a chance to recover from bad turnings. (America in some ways does that bit better than we do.)
And yes, I've known several people whose outlook on life was utterly transformed by a year in Africa. One elderly woman who I know is famously equable - she says that after seeing Malawi 40 years ago she decided to never grumble again, and just quietly try to help.
Nick, I agree, luck is a factor (although of course all successful people will put it down to their own skill and judgment - Justin Bieber I'm talking to you). But fortune does favour the prepared mind ...
it's a tricky balance. While the self-helpers down-play luck, the bleeding hearts tend to downplay motivational factors, and bizarrely to discount the extra value to society resulting from the self-esteem employment brings to citizens (and the obverse of that same coin, the destructive effect welfare can have on self-esteem and hence society). How to make sure no-one falls through the safety net without undermining them in the process? I don't have a clean cut answer to that one.
While I don't think negotiations will go well at all, it doesn't seem implausible that scrapping the HRA was going to be a bauble dropped in coalition negotiations - given the Tories singularly failed to convince on why it was so necessary to do so, vs the aggravation that would certainly be thrown at them for it, fair or not, and the certainty of at least a few rebels on the issue, it did seem more trouble than it was worth.
Anyone know how to fix NI (or how it can fix itself)? I cannot be the only one so thoroughly defeated by how factional the rhetoric always seems to be, despite a veneer of working togetherness (and knowing how much directly worse things used to be).
Easy, stop having a political structure where everyone is rewarded and everything is based on sectarian blocs. You cant stop people voting for their blocs but you sure as hell can ensure your political structures don't effectively entrench it.
“Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union?”
No2AV won the AV ref, No won the Indyref, can the outers make it a hat trick for no?
No i mean Yes will win. inners for fookin Yes (iffy)
Nigel Farage wanted the question to be “Do you wish to be a free, independent sovereign democracy?”
Well, do you?
I thought we already were.
If you believe that then you are definitely not the fizziest bottle of pop in the fridge. More to the point, why have you begun this pathetic anti-Ukip campaign? They are more of a threat to Labour than your beloved Tories, or are you worried that the British people might vote to leave the EU?
Begun? Christ you Kippers are well balanced people with chips on both shoulders.
I've half written one of the Sunday thread's on how OUT can win the referendum.
To be honest I don't have a chip on either shoulder, I said at the time if I lived in a marginal I would have voted Tory for the first time ever. However It is obvious to all on here that you hate Kippers, seems you may be the one with a bag of chips.
I'm sceptical of that Times front page. Sounds like a classic government decoy manoeuvre - get Nige to march his troops to the top of the hill only to march them down again when honest Dave sticks to his promise.
While I don't think negotiations will go well at all, it doesn't seem implausible that scrapping the HRA was going to be a bauble dropped in coalition negotiations - given the Tories singularly failed to convince on why it was so necessary to do so, vs the aggravation that would certainly be thrown at them for it, fair or not, and the certainty of at least a few rebels on the issue, it did seem more trouble than it was worth.
Anyone know how to fix NI (or how it can fix itself)? I cannot be the only one so thoroughly defeated by how factional the rhetoric always seems to be, despite a veneer of working togetherness (and knowing how much directly worse things used to be).
Easy, stop having a political structure where everyone is rewarded and everything is based on sectarian blocs. You cant stop people voting for their blocs but you sure as hell can ensure your political structures don't effectively entrench it.
NI is not a good standard bearer for devolution, power without responsibility. Voting by sectarian block is not particularly good, but it's a lot better than killing by them. The Arabs will probably work that out eventually.
Easy, stop having a political structure where everyone is rewarded and everything is based on sectarian blocs. You cant stop people voting for their blocs but you sure as hell can ensure your political structures don't effectively entrench it.
You think that's going to happen any time soon?
Also. David Ford said SF and SDLP need to prove that they can be responsible on budget matters in hard times. I don't see that happening any time soon, either.
Easy, stop having a political structure where everyone is rewarded and everything is based on sectarian blocs. You cant stop people voting for their blocs but you sure as hell can ensure your political structures don't effectively entrench it.
You think that's going to happen any time soon?
Also. David Ford said SF and SDLP need to prove that they can be responsible on budget matters in hard times. I don't see that happening any time soon, either.
The base system needs breaking, one way or another.
While I don't think negotiations will go well at all, it doesn't seem implausible that scrapping the HRA was going to be a bauble dropped in coalition negotiations - given the Tories singularly failed to convince on why it was so necessary to do so, vs the aggravation that would certainly be thrown at them for it, fair or not, and the certainty of at least a few rebels on the issue, it did seem more trouble than it was worth.
Anyone know how to fix NI (or how it can fix itself)? I cannot be the only one so thoroughly defeated by how factional the rhetoric always seems to be, despite a veneer of working togetherness (and knowing how much directly worse things used to be).
Easy, stop having a political structure where everyone is rewarded and everything is based on sectarian blocs. You cant stop people voting for their blocs but you sure as hell can ensure your political structures don't effectively entrench it.
I await the day politicians have the balls to try to change the system there again.
Some people may hate Kippers, some may not, but even more than some other groupings they lean toward the comforting 'it's a msm/establisment campaign conspiracy' arguments a bit too much for my tastes at times.
And I wanted UKIP to do well at the GE, the more MPs the better (except in purely financial terms, as I had a bet they would get less than 5MPs, but that was expectation not desire).
While I don't think negotiations will go well at all, it doesn't seem implausible that scrapping the HRA was going to be a bauble dropped in coalition negotiations - given the Tories singularly failed to convince on why it was so necessary to do so, vs the aggravation that would certainly be thrown at them for it, fair or not, and the certainty of at least a few rebels on the issue, it did seem more trouble than it was worth.
Anyone know how to fix NI (or how it can fix itself)? I cannot be the only one so thoroughly defeated by how factional the rhetoric always seems to be, despite a veneer of working togetherness (and knowing how much directly worse things used to be).
Easy, stop having a political structure where everyone is rewarded and everything is based on sectarian blocs. You cant stop people voting for their blocs but you sure as hell can ensure your political structures don't effectively entrench it.
I await the day politicians have the balls to try to change the system there again.
...questioned whether globalisation was really achieving more "pluralistic" societies...A Muslim is first and foremost identified as a Muslim, rather than simply a human being.
"Whether they are Pakistani, Malaysian, Senegalese, or even British born, their multiple identities are levelled under a constructed monolith of Islam,"
... it was a failure of "our collective responsibility" not to admit that the violence of groups such as the so-called Islamic State were the result of our own modern era.
"Isis is as modern as Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib. They are all products of our age."
While I don't think negotiations will go well at all, it doesn't seem implausible that scrapping the HRA was going to be a bauble dropped in coalition negotiations - given the Tories singularly failed to convince on why it was so necessary to do so, vs the aggravation that would certainly be thrown at them for it, fair or not, and the certainty of at least a few rebels on the issue, it did seem more trouble than it was worth.
Anyone know how to fix NI (or how it can fix itself)? I cannot be the only one so thoroughly defeated by how factional the rhetoric always seems to be, despite a veneer of working togetherness (and knowing how much directly worse things used to be).
Easy, stop having a political structure where everyone is rewarded and everything is based on sectarian blocs. You cant stop people voting for their blocs but you sure as hell can ensure your political structures don't effectively entrench it.
I await the day politicians have the balls to try to change the system there again.
Why should they? It suits them fine.
I await, but do not anticipate it I should have said, for just that reason.
The retreat from the Conservatives' manifesto commitment to repeal the Human Rights Act 1998 is unsurprising. They lacked a cogent attack on the principles underlying the Act, and their suggested proposals were contradictory and incoherent. Unfortunately for the country, a perhaps once in a generation opportunity to rid the country of that wretched Act of Parliament has slipped away.
I don't know the last time I thought this, but Julia Hartley-Brewer has made what I feel is a very decent point
But it’s not always their fault. We force politicians to lie. We insist they tell us that things can only get better, and that we can spend more and more on public services while we all pay less and less tax. If we want our politicians to be honest with us, then we will have to stop punishing them at the ballot box for being brave enough to tell us the truth.
While still clarifying in this specific case.
Sometimes it is entirely their own fault. After all, no one forced Alistair Carmichael to do what he did.
Whatever the specifics in this instance, the general hysteria about our political classes does get get overblown I fear, and I'm as guilty of that as anyone at times, as at the end of the day they act in the way they do because that's what works, if it didn't they would act in other ways. We get the politicians we deserve, by and large.
I see Kendall is the only History graduate left in the Labour leadership race. Another point in her favour.
3. Creagh may be great, and an endorsement will be by its very nature in part a fluff piece, but that reads like a lot of empty words between worthy points.
3. Creagh may be great, and an endorsement will be by its very nature in part a fluff piece, but that reads like a lot of empty words between worthy points.
Watching Creagh's interview tonight I couldn't help feeling that the fact she's a candidate shows that she is seriously lacking in self-awareness. She's someone who stands for nothing and is clearly not equipped to lead one of the two parties of government in this country. If she's on the ballot it won't enhance the choice of members one bit.
Alex.Kane @AlexKane221b 2m2 minutes ago .@NIOPressOffice "Reflect carefully" is diplomatic speak for "how do we get these tossers out of yet another hole of their own digging."
3. Creagh may be great, and an endorsement will be by its very nature in part a fluff piece, but that reads like a lot of empty words between worthy points.
Watching Creagh's interview tonight I couldn't help feeling that the fact she's a candidate shows that she is seriously lacking in self-awareness. She's someone who stands for nothing and is clearly not equipped to lead one of the two parties of government in this country. If she's on the ballot it won't enhance the choice of members one bit.
I'll reserve judgement on her until I see more, but I suppose it's handy in any race to have an obvious no-hoper among the genuine contenders. At least this time she might get there on the basis of her own skills, or at least without someone openly stating they wanted their backers to back someone else solely because a female candidate was needed (no, I cannot let go how pathetic that shambles made Diane Abbot look in 2010).
Good night all.
P.S What has Theresa Villiers done to deserve not being moved away from the Northern Ireland Office? Poor woman.
3. Creagh may be great, and an endorsement will be by its very nature in part a fluff piece, but that reads like a lot of empty words between worthy points.
Watching Creagh's interview tonight I couldn't help feeling that the fact she's a candidate shows that she is seriously lacking in self-awareness. She's someone who stands for nothing and is clearly not equipped to lead one of the two parties of government in this country. If she's on the ballot it won't enhance the choice of members one bit.
I'll reserve judgement on her until I see more, but I suppose it's handy in any race to have an obvious no-hoper among the genuine contenders. At least this time she might get there on the basis of her own skills, or at least without someone openly stating they wanted their backers to back someone else solely because a female candidate was needed (no, I cannot let go how pathetic that shambles made Diane Abbot look in 2010).
Good night all.
P.S What has Theresa Villiers done to deserve not being moved away from the Northern Ireland Office? Poor woman.
One curiosity is how short HH has moved in the betfair market, now on 11. If there was a desire to have a veteran lead for a few years, then HH must be the one. She is not doing too badly at present.
Nick will come back dressed all in black with a beard, speaking Pennsylvania Dutch, and with an oil lamp for those long winter evenings of board games
I wonder if he knows that a couple of town names there include Bird in Hand, and the inimitable Intercourse.
I used to live in southern NJ near Philly, so knew Lancaster county quite well.
Yes, I've been twice before. I remember being amused to find the Intercourse News (local paper) in the lobby, and further (discreetly) amused that nobody else thought it in the least curious.
Going on to Las Vegas and San Franciso afterwards, so sonme bright lights too.
"Genuinely not too bothered either way.... bullshit.. , you cannot tell me that after investing the amount of time you put into Broxtowe that you were not bothered... indeed it is just as well then that you got caned by Anna Soubry, the right result was achieved.
I cannot believe what you posted was honest and truthful, given you said you never posted anything you knew to be untrue... If it was indeed entirely truthful.. Broxtowe Labour Party should never have selected you.
Your concern for Broxtowe Labour Party is touching, old chap. I think it's you that needs to get over the election, not me (and considering you won your charity bet you're not being especially magnaminous). Your team won, enjoy it!
As for me, I've always done my best for the cause, but in most ways at a personal level my life is pretty good. Would you really wish it otherwise?
I have found the quotation I was looking for. I had thought that it was by Mao Zedong on the subject of imperialism, then I thought it was a reference to the Vietnam War. But it actually refers to World War 2.
"The German Army in fighting Russia will be like an elephant attacking an army of ants. The elephant will kill thousands, even millions of ants, but he will in the end be overcome by their numbers and be eaten to the bone."
from the diary of General Berndt von Kleist, 1941.
In finding the origin of the quotation I also thus remembered where I first heard it - not from a book or a website, but from the TV series "The World At War".
Nick will come back dressed all in black with a beard, speaking Pennsylvania Dutch, and with an oil lamp for those long winter evenings of board games
I wonder if he knows that a couple of town names there include Bird in Hand, and the inimitable Intercourse.
I used to live in southern NJ near Philly, so knew Lancaster county quite well.
Yes, I've been twice before. I remember being amused to find the Intercourse News (local paper) in the lobby, and further (discreetly) amused that nobody else thought it in the least curious.
Going on to Las Vegas and San Franciso afterwards, so sonme bright lights too.
"Genuinely not too bothered either way.... bullshit.. , you cannot tell me that after investing the amount of time you put into Broxtowe that you were not bothered... indeed it is just as well then that you got caned by Anna Soubry, the right result was achieved.
I cannot believe what you posted was honest and truthful, given you said you never posted anything you knew to be untrue... If it was indeed entirely truthful.. Broxtowe Labour Party should never have selected you.
Your concern for Broxtowe Labour Party is touching, old chap. I think it's you that needs to get over the election, not me (and considering you won your charity bet you're not being especially magnaminous). Your team won, enjoy it!
As for me, I've always done my best for the cause, but in most ways at a personal level my life is pretty good. Would you really wish it otherwise?
Are you doing the road trip? Though in some ways a loop through Southern utah and the Grand Canyon would be more fun than the plains.
Are you doing the road trip? Though in some ways a loop through Southern utah and the Grand Canyon would be more fun than the plains.
No, got talked out of the big Easy Rider idea - several people said that it'd be fun if I had two months and could visit lots of little places, but if I was doing it in a week I'd just be hammering down the interstates, and nobody thought that a good idea. So the plan is a week's boardgaming, a few days' poker in Vegas and a week in California sightseeing with friends - Napa and Sonoma are on their list, and I might do some jet-skiing, which I've not done for 20 years. Only the California bit will be with a hired car.
The feeling of having the time to do this stuff instead of knocking on doors or trying to solve people's problems is odd, but growing on me. I've got a work trip to China first, though.
Evening all. What next for Stormont after the defeat of the Welfare Reform Bill?
Time for Cameron to appoint an English Viceroy to run Northern Ireland?
Thing is that the Nationalists seem to want the evil Brits to take over and then they can just blame Tories for the cuts that have to be made. You could have written the rubbish spouted today weeks or even years ago.
Its about time they grew the f**k up and made decisions that are a part of actual governing responsibility.
Yes.
Its entertaining when 'protest' parties are finally confronted with the hard choices of governing.
evenin all. well, no.15 is episode 897 in the series "near alcoholic hack self-justifies behaviour by willful misinterpretation of spurious evidence" if I am not mistaken
US media reported that up to 14 executives could be arrested as part of the FBI investigation, which has been running since 2011. The charges against them include fraud, racketeering and money laundering and relate to World Cup bids as well as marketing and broadcast deals.
US media reported that up to 14 executives could be arrested as part of the FBI investigation, which has been running since 2011. The charges against them include fraud, racketeering and money laundering and relate to World Cup bids as well as marketing and broadcast deals.
US media reported that up to 14 executives could be arrested as part of the FBI investigation, which has been running since 2011. The charges against them include fraud, racketeering and money laundering and relate to World Cup bids as well as marketing and broadcast deals.
Good article, NYT obviously well briefed; looks like the new AG in the US is keen to make her mark. It would be great to see Jack Warner and his ilk end up in prison, what level of corruption is needed to give the World Cup to Russia and then Qatar of all places?
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Re poverty, as a kid in Malta and Cyprus, the family had a fridge, but when we were in the UK we did not until 1972. We did not think of ourselves as poor. I remember schoolmates in Exmouth who had outside loos. And of course, no-one but no-one had central heating.
I agree with you that we should aspire for our poorest to do better than Mali by a long shot. But poverty should not simply be relative - there should be some link to meeting the basic needs of life - food, shelter, health - rather than just x% of y. And we should never forget what real poverty is. I am a firm believer that a Westerner's education is not complete until they have been to a Mali or Yemen, etc...
Unless we set meaningful metrics, programmes will always miss the mark as we'll have the wrong measure of progress.
A lot of the southern towns where Labour are doing badly are really quite poor. I really can't see the logic in saying that Labour would do better in those places if they pledged to cut public services more and been nicer to millionaires and big businesses.
But, people running small businesses got the impression that Labour hated them. And Metropolitan concerns about race and gender don't go down well.
16. Well that's no surprise. Hell, really there should be no problems, as we have enough sci-fi stories about the dangers to our humanity to avoid them.
12. It's not me that needs convincing, but however much it is needed or not, it ain't happening. Will enough parties next time who support it win enough seats under the current system to then want to change it?
" The leak was so amateur (can this be Carmichael’s first time?) it took only a few phone records to trace it. "
I agree with his analysis, but it does beg the question why it took 7 weeks to investigate. It would be interesting to know exactly when the Cabinet Office identified who was responsible, particularly as anyone with a passing interest in this sorry affair had worked out it was a LibDem leak by 6th April.
I heard a collective groan from the London MSM as Malcolm Bruce broke out his golden spade and started digging for Australia, having tried their level best to ignore the story these guys have finally woken up - see below for a summary of the headlines:
http://wingsoverscotland.com/pouring-oil-on-troubled-waters/
An interesting quote below from Mr Bruce about the Oldham verdict:
" Oldham verdict price of lying
The court ruling which, subject to a judicial review, has cost Phil Woolas his parliamentary career, shows that lying about an opponent to win a seat has potentially devastating consequences.Mr Woolas defeated his Liberal Democrat opponent by just 103 votes and it seems highly likely the damagingly untruthful publications he put out made the difference. "
In all seriousness, I detect some in UKIP feel like they have to win the right way, or at least fight the right way, rather than being willing to try anything to win, funnily enough.
12 degrees, heavy showers, 16 mph winds:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2644688
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/politics/constituencies/E14000931
“Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union?”
No2AV won the AV ref, No won the Indyref, can the outers make it a hat trick for no?
I agree with all your points - really what it comes down to is saying what we mean, not just lazily saying "poverty". A healthy society IMO needs to avoid absolute destitution altogether (even for people who do nothing whatever - we just don't want anyone starving in the street), and beyond that provide a reasonable number of chances to people to make their way to success. My main quarrel with the "People should look after themselves" mantra is that it underestimates just how much luck there is in life - birth, parents, environment, etc. - so we need to give not just support at the bottom but a chance to recover from bad turnings. (America in some ways does that bit better than we do.)
And yes, I've known several people whose outlook on life was utterly transformed by a year in Africa. One elderly woman who I know is famously equable - she says that after seeing Malawi 40 years ago she decided to never grumble again, and just quietly try to help.
Awaiting news regarding a special forces raid well inside Syria last night, in a North East region where ISIS have a firm grip. Nothing has really come out yet but it wasn't to have a sniff around. This is perhaps the highest tempo of actual assault penetration ops seen yet, a massive 2 in a couple of weeks.....
The US always has decent comms & distance intelligence, are they finding ways to get Mark 1 eyeball intelligence as well?
Q: Do you want to be a narrow little nationalist like the SNP and whinge and blame somebody else for all your ills and become an economic basket case by leaving the EU?
The prime minister has delayed the introduction of a British Bill of Rights, which will not be in the first wave of bills introduced into the Commons after the Queen’s Speech today.
The bill, which seeks to limit abuse of human rights laws, has faced a backlash from Conservative backbenchers and the judiciary......
However, despite detailed legislation drawn up by Conservative lawyers during the last parliament, a government source said it was now more important to get the bill “right, rather than quickly”, adding that it would be “odd if we did not consult widely”.
This could mean that a full bill is not introduced into the Commons in the first year of this parliament, putting it on a slower timetable than more urgent legislation, such as the EU referendum bill, which will be among the first to be debated by MPs.
I cannot believe what you posted was honest and truthful, given you said you never posted anything you knew to be untrue... If it was indeed entirely truthful.. Broxtowe Labour Party should never have selected you.
Just how desperate are you?
While I don't think negotiations will go well at all, it doesn't seem implausible that scrapping the HRA was going to be a bauble dropped in coalition negotiations - given the Tories singularly failed to convince on why it was so necessary to do so, vs the aggravation that would certainly be thrown at them for it, fair or not, and the certainty of at least a few rebels on the issue, it did seem more trouble than it was worth.
Anyone know how to fix NI (or how it can fix itself)? I cannot be the only one so thoroughly defeated by how factional the rhetoric always seems to be, despite a veneer of working togetherness (and knowing how much directly worse things used to be).
I've half written one of the Sunday thread's on how OUT can win the referendum.
it's a tricky balance. While the self-helpers down-play luck, the bleeding hearts tend to downplay motivational factors, and bizarrely to discount the extra value to society resulting from the self-esteem employment brings to citizens (and the obverse of that same coin, the destructive effect welfare can have on self-esteem and hence society). How to make sure no-one falls through the safety net without undermining them in the process? I don't have a clean cut answer to that one.
Anyone know how to fix NI (or how it can fix itself)? I cannot be the only one so thoroughly defeated by how factional the rhetoric always seems to be, despite a veneer of working togetherness (and knowing how much directly worse things used to be).
Easy, stop having a political structure where everyone is rewarded and everything is based on sectarian blocs. You cant stop people voting for their blocs but you sure as hell can ensure your political structures don't effectively entrench it.
http://viewnh.typepad.com/.a/6a01157055b657970b0133f068e232970b-320wi
Nick will come back dressed all in black with a beard, speaking Pennsylvania Dutch, and with an oil lamp for those long winter evenings of board games
I wonder if he knows that a couple of town names there include Bird in Hand, and the inimitable Intercourse.
I used to live in southern NJ near Philly, so knew Lancaster county quite well.
I'm sceptical of that Times front page. Sounds like a classic government decoy manoeuvre - get Nige to march his troops to the top of the hill only to march them down again when honest Dave sticks to his promise.
NI is not a good standard bearer for devolution, power without responsibility. Voting by sectarian block is not particularly good, but it's a lot better than killing by them. The Arabs will probably work that out eventually.
Also. David Ford said SF and SDLP need to prove that they can be responsible on budget matters in hard times. I don't see that happening any time soon, either.
Also. David Ford said SF and SDLP need to prove that they can be responsible on budget matters in hard times. I don't see that happening any time soon, either.
The base system needs breaking, one way or another.
I await the day politicians have the balls to try to change the system there again.
And I wanted UKIP to do well at the GE, the more MPs the better (except in purely financial terms, as I had a bet they would get less than 5MPs, but that was expectation not desire).
@MrHarryCole: Mary Creagh. Cooked.
@BBCNewsnight: That interview with Labour leadership candidate Mary Creagh up on Youtube here: http://t.co/cSp6qxEUno
Why should they? It suits them fine.
...questioned whether globalisation was really achieving more "pluralistic" societies...A Muslim is first and foremost identified as a Muslim, rather than simply a human being.
"Whether they are Pakistani, Malaysian, Senegalese, or even British born, their multiple identities are levelled under a constructed monolith of Islam,"
... it was a failure of "our collective responsibility" not to admit that the violence of groups such as the so-called Islamic State were the result of our own modern era.
"Isis is as modern as Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib. They are all products of our age."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-32887820
I await, but do not anticipate it I should have said, for just that reason.
But it’s not always their fault. We force politicians to lie. We insist they tell us that things can only get better, and that we can spend more and more on public services while we all pay less and less tax. If we want our politicians to be honest with us, then we will have to stop punishing them at the ballot box for being brave enough to tell us the truth.
While still clarifying in this specific case.
Sometimes it is entirely their own fault. After all, no one forced Alistair Carmichael to do what he did.
Whatever the specifics in this instance, the general hysteria about our political classes does get get overblown I fear, and I'm as guilty of that as anyone at times, as at the end of the day they act in the way they do because that's what works, if it didn't they would act in other ways. We get the politicians we deserve, by and large.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2015/politics-blog/11629927/Politicians-lie.-Get-over-it.html
3. Creagh may be great, and an endorsement will be by its very nature in part a fluff piece, but that reads like a lot of empty words between worthy points.
And I would know, it's my own default style.
.@NIOPressOffice "Reflect carefully" is diplomatic speak for "how do we get these tossers out of yet another hole of their own digging."
Good night all.
P.S What has Theresa Villiers done to deserve not being moved away from the Northern Ireland Office? Poor woman.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCNG5UeKMZw
Going on to Las Vegas and San Franciso afterwards, so sonme bright lights too. Your concern for Broxtowe Labour Party is touching, old chap. I think it's you that needs to get over the election, not me (and considering you won your charity bet you're not being especially magnaminous). Your team won, enjoy it!
As for me, I've always done my best for the cause, but in most ways at a personal level my life is pretty good. Would you really wish it otherwise?
I have found the quotation I was looking for. I had thought that it was by Mao Zedong on the subject of imperialism, then I thought it was a reference to the Vietnam War. But it actually refers to World War 2.
"The German Army in fighting Russia will be like an elephant attacking an army of ants. The elephant will kill thousands, even millions of ants, but he will in the end be overcome by their numbers and be eaten to the bone."
from the diary of General Berndt von Kleist, 1941.
In finding the origin of the quotation I also thus remembered where I first heard it - not from a book or a website, but from the TV series "The World At War".
The feeling of having the time to do this stuff instead of knocking on doors or trying to solve people's problems is odd, but growing on me. I've got a work trip to China first, though.
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Blue+Ball,+PA/Paradise,+PA/@40.0615794,-76.1650315,12z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x89c66a84e3cc1793:0x643f08cf141e27c6!2m2!1d-76.0482087!2d40.1183438!1m5!1m1!1s0x89c6386a259fad6b:0x7eb079ccc0090ec3!2m2!1d-76.1285654!2d40.0098226!3e0
Its entertaining when 'protest' parties are finally confronted with the hard choices of governing.
Just ask the Lib Dems.
If you can find one.....
Bloody Hell, big cajones on the Swiss police and US FBI
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/11631966/Swiss-police-arrest-Fifa-executives-as-part-of-US-corruption-investigation.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/27/sports/soccer/fifa-officials-face-corruption-charges-in-us.html?_r=0
"Scotland's voice" really is a wailing, spoilt child.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/27/sports/soccer/fifa-officials-face-corruption-charges-in-us.html?_r=0
Good article, NYT obviously well briefed; looks like the new AG in the US is keen to make her mark.
It would be great to see Jack Warner and his ilk end up in prison, what level of corruption is needed to give the World Cup to Russia and then Qatar of all places?