I thought most of the TV election programmes were disappointing. They've been getting worse since 1992 IMO. What happens is they have the exit poll, show a few results, and then don't bother with the details because they think it's more interesting to have the likes of Neil Kinnock and Michael Gove chattering on endlessly about what they think's going to happen. Lots of unexpected results like the Tories gaining Gower are missed completely.
I think the BBC was in shock, Emily Maitliss looked on the verge of tears all night.
What is worse they think their graphics are clever and helpful. Their seat swingometer seemed to swing the same distance no matter what the swing. I hardly think it needed Maitliss to tap some button to produce the graphic.
The Guardian is giving the Charles’ letters the full Watergate treatment – from what I've read so far, it’s as about as anticlimactic as you could possibly get.
Well, he takes positions which are strongly on one side of intense public controversy, notably on the badger cull (very much in favour) and unrestricted sale of herbal medicines, some of which had proved harmful. You might agree or disagree, but whether it's healthy for the heir to the throne to weigh into controversies seems very doubtful. Isn't it the Queen's restraint in these things one of the reasons why her reign has been largely uncontroversial? What if a future heir urged nationalisation of the rail network or promoted sharia law? - unlikely, of course, but who can predict what an individual might think? Won't it be embarrassing if he later has to give a King's Speech advocating things that he's known to oppose?
I raised this politely with his office a decade or so ago, and has a detailed two-page reply from his political adviser, which said that Charles felt he had a right toraise issues that concerned him, but that he ceased to do so when they became matters of controversy between the parties - the letter pointed out that, for instance, he was not commenting on fox-hunting. But here he is taking sides on matters that are indeed controversial, and it's not a sufficient defence to say that you agree with his views. I don't dislike Charles, but this stuff just seems unwise.
I agree with Nick.
But that doesn't make the fact that this has blown up in the Guardian's face any less delicious.
I thought most of the TV election programmes were disappointing. They've been getting worse since 1992 IMO. What happens is they have the exit poll, show a few results, and then don't bother with the details because they think it's more interesting to have the likes of Neil Kinnock and Michael Gove chattering on endlessly about what they think's going to happen. Lots of unexpected results like the Tories gaining Gower are missed completely.
I think the BBC was in shock, Emily Maitliss looked on the verge of tears all night.
What is worse they think their graphics are clever and helpful. Their seat swingometer seemed to swing the same distance no matter what the swing. I hardly think it needed Maitliss to tap some button to produce the graphic.
I think that was because the SNP swings of 30% distorted the chart!
I thought most of the TV election programmes were disappointing. They've been getting worse since 1992 IMO. What happens is they have the exit poll, show a few results, and then don't bother with the details because they think it's more interesting to have the likes of Neil Kinnock and Michael Gove chattering on endlessly about what they think's going to happen. Lots of unexpected results like the Tories gaining Gower are missed completely.
I think the BBC was in shock, Emily Maitliss looked on the verge of tears all night.
What is worse they think their graphics are clever and helpful. Their seat swingometer seemed to swing the same distance no matter what the swing. I hardly think it needed Maitliss to tap some button to produce the graphic.
The clearest graphics were Peter Snow's in 1992 and 1997. If you don't believe me just check them out on YouTube.
Thanks to whoever it was that provided the link to a results spreadsheet. Some interesting bits in there as always. Impressive result for Steve Rotheram in Liverpool Walton - the only person to get over 80% of the vote. Also hadn't notices that Belfast South Result - SDLP holding on under 25% of the vote.
Didn't watch the BBC footage at the time, but I've seen snippets since.
Two bad points stuck out: 1) Graphically impressive but ridiculously overblown 'road to Downing Street' nonsense with Vine. Sky used a bar chart, to better effect. 2) Sophie Raworth is excellent. Sticking her outside with an unnecessarily enormous map of hexagonal tiles to spend the night and early morning filling in is not.
Didn't watch the BBC footage at the time, but I've seen snippets since.
Two bad points stuck out: 1) Graphically impressive but ridiculously overblown 'road to Downing Street' nonsense with Vine. Sky used a bar chart, to better effect. 2) Sophie Raworth is excellent. Sticking her outside with an unnecessarily enormous map of hexagonal tiles to spend the night and early morning filling in is not.
I thought most of the TV election programmes were disappointing. They've been getting worse since 1992 IMO. What happens is they have the exit poll, show a few results, and then don't bother with the details because they think it's more interesting to have the likes of Neil Kinnock and Michael Gove chattering on endlessly about what they think's going to happen. Lots of unexpected results like the Tories gaining Gower are missed completely.
BBC was really poor. Feeds going down, missed declarations, little analysis of results, and above all a palpable sense of shock and grief amongst their "unbiased" commentators. Andrew Marr was a particular disgrace, made no attempt to hide his anger and grief at the Scotland Labour losses. Spent a fortune on gimmicky graphics again as usual though.
Andrew neil was good as ever, but I switched to Sky at ~3.00.
Hilarious if the only outcome of the Charles "expose" is that public opinion for the heir to the throne shoots skyward, whilst the incompetence/callousness of the last Labour Government is exposed for all to see.
Would cap what has been a distinctly unstellar week for the Left!
Nice work Grauniad....
Unstellar week continues - Greece apparently not going to court over the Elgin Marbles.
Obviously the learned Mrs Clooney didn't find a magic solution.....
Labour majorities reduced Barrow and Furness from 11.8 to 1.8% Stoke South from 10.4 to 6.5% Bishop Auckland from 12.7 to 8.9% Coventry NW from 13.5% to 10% Copeland from 9 to 6.4% Halifax from 3.4% to 1% Harrow West from 6.8 to 4.7% Newcastle under Lyme from 3.6 to 1.5% Clwyd South from 8.2 to 6.9% Derbyshire NE from 5.2 to 3.9% Mansfield from 12.4 to 11.3% Coventry South from 8.4 to 7.3% Bridgend from 5.9 to 4.9% Birmingham Norhfield from 6.7 to 5.9% Westminster North from 5.4 to 5% Darlington from 7.9 to 7.7% Newport West from 8.9 to 8.7% + the seats lost
where it increased
York Central from 13.9 to 14.1% Tooting from 5 to 5.3% Bristol East from 8.3 to 8.6% Workington from 11.7 to 12.2% Bolton NE from 9.4 to 10.1% Alyn and Deeside from 7.3 to 8.1% Scunthorpe from 6.9 to 8.5% Delyn from 6.1 to 7.8% Hampstead and KIlburn from 0.1 to 2.1% Eltham from 4 to 6.2% Gedling from 3.9 to 6.2% Wakefield from 3.6 to 6.1% Walsall North from 2.7 to 5.3% Blackpool South from 5.3 to 8% Hyndburn from 7.2 to 10.3% Southampton Test from 5.5 to 8.7% Batley and Spen fro 8.6 to 12% Birmingham Edgbaston from 3.1 to 6.6% Chorley from 5.2 to 8.8% Bury South from 6.8 to 10.4% Slough from 11.6 to 15.2% Ellesmere from 9.8 to 13.4% Worsley and Eccles South from 10.4 to 14.1% Cardiff West from 11.6 to 15.5% Tynemouth from 10.9 to 15.4% Bradford South from 12.2 to 17.2 Cardiff South from 10.6 to 16% Leeds NE from 9.6 to 15% Birmingham Erdington from 9.2 to 14.8 Hammersmith from 7.5% to 13.6% Derby South from 14.9 to 21.6 Huddersfield from 11 to 18.1 Penistone from 6.5 to 14.3 Lancashire West from 9 to 16.8% Luton South from 5.5 to 13.5% Extere from 5.2 to 13.3% Erith and Thamesmead from 13.4 to 22.4% Wolverhampton NE from 7.1 to 16.2 Dudley North from 1.7 to 11.0 Stalybridge and Hyde from 6.7 to 16.3 Leicester West from 11.2 to 20.9 Wirral South from 1.3 to 11.0 Walsall South from 4.3 to 14.4 Birmingham Selly Oak from 7.5 to 18.6 Great Grimsby from 2.2 to 13.5 Nottingham South from 4.3 to 16.0 Don Valley from 8.3 to 20.9 Feltham and Heston from 9.6 to 23.2 Sefton Central from 8 to 24.2 Poplar and Limehouse from 12.9 to 33.2
I thought most of the TV election programmes were disappointing. They've been getting worse since 1992 IMO. What happens is they have the exit poll, show a few results, and then don't bother with the details because they think it's more interesting to have the likes of Neil Kinnock and Michael Gove chattering on endlessly about what they think's going to happen. Lots of unexpected results like the Tories gaining Gower are missed completely.
I think the BBC was in shock, Emily Maitliss looked on the verge of tears all night.
What is worse they think their graphics are clever and helpful. Their seat swingometer seemed to swing the same distance no matter what the swing. I hardly think it needed Maitliss to tap some button to produce the graphic.
The best bit was that Vine's road to Downing Street simulation didn't have a daylight mode, making him look a bit silly when he was using it in daytime on the Friday. Huge award for forethought to someone there.
"barely 48 hours after receiving a 150-page dossier from Amal Clooney and fellow leading human rights lawyers at London’s Doughty Street chambers exhorting the Greek government to pursue legal channels immediately. The report, outlining the options Athens faced in its decades-long struggle to win back the fifth century BC carvings, described a “now or never” opportunity for Greece and advised it to take the British Museum to the international court of justice.
“The British adhere to international law,” said Clooney who co-authored the report with Geoffrey Robertson and Norman Palmer, British QCs regarded as pre-eminent experts in cultural restitution. “The Greek government has never taken advantage of this Achilles heel. You must take legal action now or you may lose the opportunity to do so due to future legal obstacles.”"
LOL - "You must take legal action now...."
150 page counsel's opinion - blimey, what did that cost the bankrupt nation?!
It obviously didn't convince enough if the Greeks have binned the advice after less than 48 hours consideration!
Please select a new leader who is just as far to the left (and just as closely associated with the past) as Miliband – or maybe even more so. If you could perhaps see fit to get, say, Andy Burnham in the top job with Tom Watson as his deputy, I’ll post you a thank you card. Think of the electoral power summoned up by a heady mix of endless discussion of your record in Mid Staffs and the merits of restricting press freedom.
And finally, please – please – commission another of those stone manifesto things at the next election. Sure, people thought it was a bit quirky but quirky can be fun, right? Eventually you could have loads of them, all lined up like a graveyard. A quirky, fun graveyard.
Thought Sky and ITV offered simple, unflashy coverage - with declarations, although the audio was often terrible and impossible to hear (though I did have the telly turned down a lot at 4am in fairness)
The Beeb just offered chattering lefties whilst a series of Tory holds and gains flashed up with barely any comment. By 3am I had mostly settled on ITV, forays to Sky and back to the Beeb after something big. Plus of course monitoring very closely what was happening here and on the BBC website.
"barely 48 hours after receiving a 150-page dossier from Amal Clooney and fellow leading human rights lawyers at London’s Doughty Street chambers exhorting the Greek government to pursue legal channels immediately. The report, outlining the options Athens faced in its decades-long struggle to win back the fifth century BC carvings, described a “now or never” opportunity for Greece and advised it to take the British Museum to the international court of justice.
“The British adhere to international law,” said Clooney who co-authored the report with Geoffrey Robertson and Norman Palmer, British QCs regarded as pre-eminent experts in cultural restitution. “The Greek government has never taken advantage of this Achilles heel. You must take legal action now or you may lose the opportunity to do so due to future legal obstacles.”"
LOL - "You must take legal action now...."
150 page counsel's opinion - blimey, what did that cost the bankrupt nation?!
It obviously didn't convince enough if the Greeks have binned the advice after less than 48 hours consideration!
I couldnt find the ITV coverage on ITVPlayer, never thought to check ITN.
This looks interesting, has Miranda Green and Owen Jones. I want to watch Owen Jones die live on air.
Has anyone found C4's entire coverage? It's not on 4OD.
There's another one to go on my list.... Hoorar!!! Once it's found anyway....
We watched some of Channel 4's coverage early on. Quite good, although helped by the mood of despondancy amongst the lefties. I liked the start of a Last Leg segment when Adam Hills interrupted himself and bemoaned the fact the atmosphere in the studio / the audience was totally killed by the exit poll - to which everyone cheered in agreement.
"barely 48 hours after receiving a 150-page dossier from Amal Clooney and fellow leading human rights lawyers at London’s Doughty Street chambers exhorting the Greek government to pursue legal channels immediately. The report, outlining the options Athens faced in its decades-long struggle to win back the fifth century BC carvings, described a “now or never” opportunity for Greece and advised it to take the British Museum to the international court of justice.
“The British adhere to international law,” said Clooney who co-authored the report with Geoffrey Robertson and Norman Palmer, British QCs regarded as pre-eminent experts in cultural restitution. “The Greek government has never taken advantage of this Achilles heel. You must take legal action now or you may lose the opportunity to do so due to future legal obstacles.”"
LOL - "You must take legal action now...."
150 page counsel's opinion - blimey, what did that cost the bankrupt nation?!
It obviously didn't convince enough if the Greeks have binned the advice after less than 48 hours consideration!
We may have found a use for Ed Miliband's policy stone.
Labour majorities reduced Barrow and Furness from 11.8 to 1.8% Stoke South from 10.4 to 6.5% Bishop Auckland from 12.7 to 8.9% Coventry NW from 13.5% to 10% Copeland from 9 to 6.4% Halifax from 3.4% to 1% Harrow West from 6.8 to 4.7% Newcastle under Lyme from 3.6 to 1.5% Clwyd South from 8.2 to 6.9% Derbyshire NE from 5.2 to 3.9% Mansfield from 12.4 to 11.3% Coventry South from 8.4 to 7.3% Bridgend from 5.9 to 4.9% Birmingham Norhfield from 6.7 to 5.9% Westminster North from 5.4 to 5% Darlington from 7.9 to 7.7% Newport West from 8.9 to 8.7% + the seats lost
Barrow !
That is straight 100% fear of the SNP and what it could mean for Trident jobs in the area.
Mr. Antifrank, I fear we may have difficulty persuading the Greeks that the pronouncements engraved upon Miliband's stone were the utterances of profound philosophers or laws handed down by Lycurgus and Solon...
Labour majorities reduced Barrow and Furness from 11.8 to 1.8% Stoke South from 10.4 to 6.5% Bishop Auckland from 12.7 to 8.9% Coventry NW from 13.5% to 10% Copeland from 9 to 6.4% Halifax from 3.4% to 1% Harrow West from 6.8 to 4.7% Newcastle under Lyme from 3.6 to 1.5% Clwyd South from 8.2 to 6.9% Derbyshire NE from 5.2 to 3.9% Mansfield from 12.4 to 11.3% Coventry South from 8.4 to 7.3% Bridgend from 5.9 to 4.9% Birmingham Norhfield from 6.7 to 5.9% Westminster North from 5.4 to 5% Darlington from 7.9 to 7.7% Newport West from 8.9 to 8.7% + the seats lost
where it increased
York Central from 13.9 to 14.1% Tooting from 5 to 5.3% Bristol East from 8.3 to 8.6% Workington from 11.7 to 12.2% Bolton NE from 9.4 to 10.1% Alyn and Deeside from 7.3 to 8.1% Scunthorpe from 6.9 to 8.5% Delyn from 6.1 to 7.8% Hampstead and KIlburn from 0.1 to 2.1% Eltham from 4 to 6.2% Gedling from 3.9 to 6.2% Wakefield from 3.6 to 6.1% Walsall North from 2.7 to 5.3% Blackpool South from 5.3 to 8% Hyndburn from 7.2 to 10.3% Southampton Test from 5.5 to 8.7% Batley and Spen fro 8.6 to 12% Birmingham Edgbaston from 3.1 to 6.6% Chorley from 5.2 to 8.8% Bury South from 6.8 to 10.4% Slough from 11.6 to 15.2% Ellesmere from 9.8 to 13.4% Worsley and Eccles South from 10.4 to 14.1% Cardiff West from 11.6 to 15.5% Tynemouth from 10.9 to 15.4% Bradford South from 12.2 to 17.2 Cardiff South from 10.6 to 16% Leeds NE from 9.6 to 15% Birmingham Erdington from 9.2 to 14.8 Hammersmith from 7.5% to 13.6% Derby South from 14.9 to 21.6 Huddersfield from 11 to 18.1 Penistone from 6.5 to 14.3 Lancashire West from 9 to 16.8% Luton South from 5.5 to 13.5% Extere from 5.2 to 13.3% Erith and Thamesmead from 13.4 to 22.4% Wolverhampton NE from 7.1 to 16.2 Dudley North from 1.7 to 11.0 Stalybridge and Hyde from 6.7 to 16.3 Leicester West from 11.2 to 20.9 Wirral South from 1.3 to 11.0 Walsall South from 4.3 to 14.4 Birmingham Selly Oak from 7.5 to 18.6 Great Grimsby from 2.2 to 13.5 Nottingham South from 4.3 to 16.0 Don Valley from 8.3 to 20.9 Feltham and Heston from 9.6 to 23.2 Sefton Central from 8 to 24.2 Poplar and Limehouse from 12.9 to 33.2
I was quite surprised that the Lab majority in Exeter went up so sharply considering what happened in the rest of the SW. It is strange that Exeter has a Lab MP and Plymouth 2 Tories when Exeter is much the nicer city. Could be students and met office workers I suppose.
I thought most of the TV election programmes were disappointing. They've been getting worse since 1992 IMO. What happens is they have the exit poll, show a few results, and then don't bother with the details because they think it's more interesting to have the likes of Neil Kinnock and Michael Gove chattering on endlessly about what they think's going to happen. Lots of unexpected results like the Tories gaining Gower are missed completely.
I think the BBC was in shock, Emily Maitliss looked on the verge of tears all night.
What is worse they think their graphics are clever and helpful. Their seat swingometer seemed to swing the same distance no matter what the swing. I hardly think it needed Maitliss to tap some button to produce the graphic.
The best bit was that Vine's road to Downing Street simulation didn't have a daylight mode, making him look a bit silly when he was using it in daytime on the Friday. Huge award for forethought to someone there.
Spot on Andy. Sky and ITV were better, but even they didn't manage top gear. Twitter was far more fun, highlights like "best/worst performance in x since" rumours and hard results. The CCHQ press office spent a while ahead of TV broadcasters.
If Labour don't choose a 2010 intake MP as leader, then the stench of Brown govt 10 years on will still hang around the party. Simple as that. The new Thatch but for the left.
Mind you if they choose Yvette = genius! Kerching.
I thought most of the TV election programmes were disappointing. They've been getting worse since 1992 IMO. What happens is they have the exit poll, show a few results, and then don't bother with the details because they think it's more interesting to have the likes of Neil Kinnock and Michael Gove chattering on endlessly about what they think's going to happen. Lots of unexpected results like the Tories gaining Gower are missed completely.
BBC was really poor. Feeds going down, missed declarations, little analysis of results, and above all a palpable sense of shock and grief amongst their "unbiased" commentators. Andrew Marr was a particular disgrace, made no attempt to hide his anger and grief at the Scotland Labour losses. Spent a fortune on gimmicky graphics again as usual though.
Andrew neil was good as ever, but I switched to Sky at ~3.00.
I switched over too, but somewhat later.
I didn't notice any bias from the BBC on election night. But the programme was poor nonetheless which was a pity given it was probably Dimbleby's final outing as anchor.
I thought most of the TV election programmes were disappointing. They've been getting worse since 1992 IMO. What happens is they have the exit poll, show a few results, and then don't bother with the details because they think it's more interesting to have the likes of Neil Kinnock and Michael Gove chattering on endlessly about what they think's going to happen. Lots of unexpected results like the Tories gaining Gower are missed completely.
I think the BBC was in shock, Emily Maitliss looked on the verge of tears all night.
What is worse they think their graphics are clever and helpful. Their seat swingometer seemed to swing the same distance no matter what the swing. I hardly think it needed Maitliss to tap some button to produce the graphic.
The clearest graphics were Peter Snow's in 1992 and 1997. If you don't believe me just check them out on YouTube.
I liked 1997 Channel 4 Bouncy Houses of Parliament. They had a red one and a blue one, with a team of boucing "MPs" who got on one or the other to demonstrate gains. Completely absurd and the blue one was rapidly looking rather forlorn.
Labour majorities reduced Barrow and Furness from 11.8 to 1.8% Stoke South from 10.4 to 6.5% Bishop Auckland from 12.7 to 8.9% Coventry NW from 13.5% to 10% Copeland from 9 to 6.4% Halifax from 3.4% to 1% Harrow West from 6.8 to 4.7% Newcastle under Lyme from 3.6 to 1.5% Clwyd South from 8.2 to 6.9% Derbyshire NE from 5.2 to 3.9% Mansfield from 12.4 to 11.3% Coventry South from 8.4 to 7.3% Bridgend from 5.9 to 4.9% Birmingham Norhfield from 6.7 to 5.9% Westminster North from 5.4 to 5% Darlington from 7.9 to 7.7% Newport West from 8.9 to 8.7% + the seats lost
where it increased
York Central from 13.9 to 14.1% Tooting from 5 to 5.3% Bristol East from 8.3 to 8.6% Workington from 11.7 to 12.2% Bolton NE from 9.4 to 10.1% Alyn and Deeside from 7.3 to 8.1% Scunthorpe from 6.9 to 8.5% Delyn from 6.1 to 7.8% Hampstead and KIlburn from 0.1 to 2.1% Eltham from 4 to 6.2% Gedling from 3.9 to 6.2% Wakefield from 3.6 to 6.1% Walsall North from 2.7 to 5.3% Blackpool South from 5.3 to 8% Hyndburn from 7.2 to 10.3% Southampton Test from 5.5 to 8.7% Batley and Spen fro 8.6 to 12% Birmingham Edgbaston from 3.1 to 6.6% Chorley from 5.2 to 8.8% Bury South from 6.8 to 10.4% Slough from 11.6 to 15.2% Ellesmere from 9.8 to 13.4% Worsley and Eccles South from 10.4 to 14.1% Cardiff West from 11.6 to 15.5% Tynemouth from 10.9 to 15.4% Bradford South from 12.2 to 17.2 Cardiff South from 10.6 to 16% Leeds NE from 9.6 to 15% Birmingham Erdington from 9.2 to 14.8 Hammersmith from 7.5% to 13.6% Derby South from 14.9 to 21.6 Huddersfield from 11 to 18.1 Penistone from 6.5 to 14.3 Lancashire West from 9 to 16.8% Luton South from 5.5 to 13.5% Extere from 5.2 to 13.3% Erith and Thamesmead from 13.4 to 22.4% Wolverhampton NE from 7.1 to 16.2 Dudley North from 1.7 to 11.0 Stalybridge and Hyde from 6.7 to 16.3 Leicester West from 11.2 to 20.9 Wirral South from 1.3 to 11.0 Walsall South from 4.3 to 14.4 Birmingham Selly Oak from 7.5 to 18.6 Great Grimsby from 2.2 to 13.5 Nottingham South from 4.3 to 16.0 Don Valley from 8.3 to 20.9 Feltham and Heston from 9.6 to 23.2 Sefton Central from 8 to 24.2 Poplar and Limehouse from 12.9 to 33.2
I was quite surprised that the Lab majority in Exeter went up so sharply considering what happened in the rest of the SW. It is strange that Exeter has a Lab MP and Plymouth 2 Tories when Exeter is much the nicer city. Could be students and met office workers I suppose.
Ben Bradshaw (Exeter) is very centrist and has spent a lot of time building up a personal vote.
I thought most of the TV election programmes were disappointing. They've been getting worse since 1992 IMO. What happens is they have the exit poll, show a few results, and then don't bother with the details because they think it's more interesting to have the likes of Neil Kinnock and Michael Gove chattering on endlessly about what they think's going to happen. Lots of unexpected results like the Tories gaining Gower are missed completely.
BBC was really poor. Feeds going down, missed declarations, little analysis of results, and above all a palpable sense of shock and grief amongst their "unbiased" commentators. Andrew Marr was a particular disgrace, made no attempt to hide his anger and grief at the Scotland Labour losses. Spent a fortune on gimmicky graphics again as usual though.
Andrew neil was good as ever, but I switched to Sky at ~3.00.
I switched over too, but somewhat later.
I didn't notice any bias from the BBC on election night. But the programme was poor nonetheless which was a pity given it was probably Dimbleby's final outing as anchor.
I didn't think it was overly biased, but I was concerned they were not up to speed with declarations as the (early) morning progressed.
Labour majorities reduced Barrow and Furness from 11.8 to 1.8% Stoke South from 10.4 to 6.5% Bishop Auckland from 12.7 to 8.9% Coventry NW from 13.5% to 10% Copeland from 9 to 6.4% Halifax from 3.4% to 1% Harrow West from 6.8 to 4.7% Newcastle under Lyme from 3.6 to 1.5% Clwyd South from 8.2 to 6.9% Derbyshire NE from 5.2 to 3.9% Mansfield from 12.4 to 11.3% Coventry South from 8.4 to 7.3% Bridgend from 5.9 to 4.9% Birmingham Norhfield from 6.7 to 5.9% Westminster North from 5.4 to 5% Darlington from 7.9 to 7.7% Newport West from 8.9 to 8.7% + the seats lost
where it increased
York Central from 13.9 to 14.1% Tooting from 5 to 5.3% Bristol East from 8.3 to 8.6% Workington from 11.7 to 12.2% Bolton NE from 9.4 to 10.1% Alyn and Deeside from 7.3 to 8.1% Scunthorpe from 6.9 to 8.5% Delyn from 6.1 to 7.8% Hampstead and KIlburn from 0.1 to 2.1% Eltham from 4 to 6.2% Gedling from 3.9 to 6.2% Wakefield from 3.6 to 6.1% Walsall North from 2.7 to 5.3% Blackpool South from 5.3 to 8% Hyndburn from 7.2 to 10.3% Southampton Test from 5.5 to 8.7% Batley and Spen fro 8.6 to 12% Birmingham Edgbaston from 3.1 to 6.6% Chorley from 5.2 to 8.8% Bury South from 6.8 to 10.4% Slough from 11.6 to 15.2% Ellesmere from 9.8 to 13.4% Worsley and Eccles South from 10.4 to 14.1% Cardiff West from 11.6 to 15.5% Tynemouth from 10.9 to 15.4% Bradford South from 12.2 to 17.2 Cardiff South from 10.6 to 16% Leeds NE from 9.6 to 15% Birmingham Erdington from 9.2 to 14.8 Hammersmith from 7.5% to 13.6% Derby South from 14.9 to 21.6 Huddersfield from 11 to 18.1 Penistone from 6.5 to 14.3 Lancashire West from 9 to 16.8% Luton South from 5.5 to 13.5% Extere from 5.2 to 13.3% Erith and Thamesmead from 13.4 to 22.4% Wolverhampton NE from 7.1 to 16.2 Dudley North from 1.7 to 11.0 Stalybridge and Hyde from 6.7 to 16.3 Leicester West from 11.2 to 20.9 Wirral South from 1.3 to 11.0 Walsall South from 4.3 to 14.4 Birmingham Selly Oak from 7.5 to 18.6 Great Grimsby from 2.2 to 13.5 Nottingham South from 4.3 to 16.0 Don Valley from 8.3 to 20.9 Feltham and Heston from 9.6 to 23.2 Sefton Central from 8 to 24.2 Poplar and Limehouse from 12.9 to 33.2
I was quite surprised that the Lab majority in Exeter went up so sharply considering what happened in the rest of the SW. It is strange that Exeter has a Lab MP and Plymouth 2 Tories when Exeter is much the nicer city. Could be students and met office workers I suppose.
Exeter is a University town, Plymouth is a Naval town. The matelots want to keep Trident. I was a bit surprised that UKIP did not do too well in Plymouth. I thought the combination of WWC, Navy and SouthWest would give them a strong vote. It was enough to deliver a Con victory at 9/1, one of my later bets but only a fiver sadly.
I was quite surprised that the Lab majority in Exeter went up so sharply considering what happened in the rest of the SW. It is strange that Exeter has a Lab MP and Plymouth 2 Tories when Exeter is much the nicer city. Could be students and met office workers I suppose.
It does seem odd, but there was a decent Lib Dem vote in Exeter which got pummelled and went over to Bradshaw, whilst i doubt the Labour vote in Exeter is the sort that found itself drifting over to UKIP as in other Labour held seats. I imagine the UKIP vote in Exeter is very much old colonels and other right wing Tory duffers....
It is also worth remembering some of the criticisms of my constituency polls that were made before the election. By not naming candidates, I was told, I was understating the importance of incumbency and therefore seriously underestimating the number of Lib Dem MPs who would be re-elected. So much for that.
Who runs the CCHQ Twitter account now? The guy who started it [Henry?]and was very irrerevent was brilliant and think it's streets ahead of the right-on-po-faced Labour HQ one.
I thought most of the TV election programmes were disappointing. They've been getting worse since 1992 IMO. What happens is they have the exit poll, show a few results, and then don't bother with the details because they think it's more interesting to have the likes of Neil Kinnock and Michael Gove chattering on endlessly about what they think's going to happen. Lots of unexpected results like the Tories gaining Gower are missed completely.
I think the BBC was in shock, Emily Maitliss looked on the verge of tears all night.
What is worse they think their graphics are clever and helpful. Their seat swingometer seemed to swing the same distance no matter what the swing. I hardly think it needed Maitliss to tap some button to produce the graphic.
The best bit was that Vine's road to Downing Street simulation didn't have a daylight mode, making him look a bit silly when he was using it in daytime on the Friday. Huge award for forethought to someone there.
Spot on Andy. Sky and ITV were better, but even they didn't manage top gear. Twitter was far more fun, highlights like "best/worst performance in x since" rumours and hard results. The CCHQ press office spent a while ahead of TV broadcasters.
I thought most of the TV election programmes were disappointing. They've been getting worse since 1992 IMO. What happens is they have the exit poll, show a few results, and then don't bother with the details because they think it's more interesting to have the likes of Neil Kinnock and Michael Gove chattering on endlessly about what they think's going to happen. Lots of unexpected results like the Tories gaining Gower are missed completely.
I think the BBC was in shock, Emily Maitliss looked on the verge of tears all night.
What is worse they think their graphics are clever and helpful. Their seat swingometer seemed to swing the same distance no matter what the swing. I hardly think it needed Maitliss to tap some button to produce the graphic.
The clearest graphics were Peter Snow's in 1992 and 1997. If you don't believe me just check them out on YouTube.
I liked 1997 Channel 4 Bouncy Houses of Parliament. They had a red one and a blue one, with a team of boucing "MPs" who got on one or the other to demonstrate gains. Completely absurd and the blue one was rapidly looking rather forlorn.
Who runs the CCHQ Twitter account now? The guy who started it [Henry?]and was very irrerevent was brilliant and think it's streets ahead of the right-on-po-faced Labour HQ one.
I thought most of the TV election programmes were disappointing. They've been getting worse since 1992 IMO. What happens is they have the exit poll, show a few results, and then don't bother with the details because they think it's more interesting to have the likes of Neil Kinnock and Michael Gove chattering on endlessly about what they think's going to happen. Lots of unexpected results like the Tories gaining Gower are missed completely.
I think the BBC was in shock, Emily Maitliss looked on the verge of tears all night.
What is worse they think their graphics are clever and helpful. Their seat swingometer seemed to swing the same distance no matter what the swing. I hardly think it needed Maitliss to tap some button to produce the graphic.
The best bit was that Vine's road to Downing Street simulation didn't have a daylight mode, making him look a bit silly when he was using it in daytime on the Friday. Huge award for forethought to someone there.
Spot on Andy. Sky and ITV were better, but even they didn't manage top gear. Twitter was far more fun, highlights like "best/worst performance in x since" rumours and hard results. The CCHQ press office spent a while ahead of TV broadcasters.
are you thinking ric holden? He was the tory candidate for Preston.... tricky.
Thought Sky and ITV offered simple, unflashy coverage - with declarations, although the audio was often terrible and impossible to hear (though I did have the telly turned down a lot at 4am in fairness)
The Beeb just offered chattering lefties whilst a series of Tory holds and gains flashed up with barely any comment. By 3am I had mostly settled on ITV, forays to Sky and back to the Beeb after something big. Plus of course monitoring very closely what was happening here and on the BBC website.
I was flicking between Sky and BBC for the most part. By far the best differentiator was that Sky actually put up the votes cast for each candidate in real time as the Returning Officer read them out.
That Guardian article is epically funny - and I think I may change my screen name to Patagonian Toothfish just for the trolling
The next morning, I felt numb, barely spoke, apart from wondering aloud, “What human being votes Tory?” My 18-month-old girl laughed at her demented father, but my four-year-old son fixed a look. For once, he wasn’t asking for “One more Diego”, but he looked concerned. I gave him a pathetic look, tried: “Daddy’s upset. Something not nice has happened.” I hugged him and explained badly that it was a sad day for people who put friends before themselves. He smiled with sympathy and said: “Wanna watch Diego?”
I thought most of the TV election programmes were disappointing. snip
BBC was really poor. Feeds going down, missed declarations, little analysis of results, and above all a palpable sense of shock and grief amongst their "unbiased" commentators. snip Andrew neil was good as ever, but I switched to Sky at ~3.00.
I switched over too, but somewhat later.
I didn't notice any bias from the BBC on election night. But the programme was poor nonetheless which was a pity given it was probably Dimbleby's final outing as anchor.
I didn't think it was overly biased, but I was concerned they were not up to speed with declarations as the (early) morning progressed.
Come on now... Spare a thought for the BBC, it needs more licence fee money... :-)
I was flicking between Sky and BBC for the most part. By far the best differentiator was that Sky actually put up the votes cast for each candidate in real time as the Returning Officer read them out.
"Ed Miliband lost the election because of "lazy Labour" supporters who failed to vote, according to Ipsos Mori, undermining the theory that predictions were swayed by "shy Tories".
Ben Page, the pollster's chief executive, was seeking to explain why his final eve of election poll overstated the number of Labour voters by almost three million. The number of votes for Labour implied by his final poll was 12.2 million but only 9.3 million turned out to vote. The same poll implied that there would be 12.5 million Tory votes; 11.3 million turned out."
Just watched the rescue of boat people by the Bulwark..very professional..very British..very Navy...Well done..Those poor sods looked like they had just won the lottery .
BBC now reporting that the police have decided there was no fraud in South Thanet. The report states that suspicions were raised on Twitter when UKIP won control of the council. The returning officer points out that the constituency extends beyond the council boundary.
As a kid, Plymouth always used to have at least one Labour MP. David Owen won both Plymouth Sutton and Plymouth Devonport. His parents were in our parish, so we'd see him at church every now and then. At the time, Plymouth was considered much more Labour-friendly than Exeter.
Not lived there since 1980, so can't comment on what has changed.
Just watched the rescue of boat people by the Bulwark..very professional..very British..very Navy...Well done..Those poor sods looked like they had just won the lottery .
Delicious ITV playback - Mandy just giggled as says 'once again David Cameron and the Conservatives have yet again failed to win a general election... not done so for 23 years'
Delicious ITV playback - Mandy just giggled as says 'once again David Cameron and the Conservatives have yet again failed to win a general election... not done so for 23 years'
Delicious ITV playback - Mandy just giggled as says 'once again David Cameron and the Conservatives have yet again failed to win a general election... not done so for 23 years'
Delicious ITV playback - Mandy just giggled as says 'once again David Cameron and the Conservatives have yet again failed to win a general election... not done so for 23 years'
An hour in he says Ed should stay on as he's run a magnificent campaign even based on the exit poll...
Just watched the rescue of boat people by the Bulwark..very professional..very British..very Navy...Well done..Those poor sods looked like they had just won the lottery .
They have
Doesn't the Nasty Party want to send them back?
There are two policies that make sense:
- Open the borders and let everyone in. That way there would be no market for the people who exploit asylum seekers in rickety boats.
- Send them back. If asylum seekers knew that attempting to get themselves smuggled in would probably lead to either death or return to their country of origin it is likely that the number of boat people would drop dramatically (as has been seen in Australia).
The second policy seems heartless but there is no appetite for the first which leaves us with a policy that is the worst of all worlds. Asylum seekers know they can't just turn up and gain entry so they pay large sums of money to people who promise to smuggle them in. They know that if they survive they will probably be allowed to enter the EU so many will be prepared to take the risk. So our current policy is directly responsible for asylum seekers drowning in my view.
"Ed Miliband lost the election because of "lazy Labour" supporters who failed to vote, according to Ipsos Mori, undermining the theory that predictions were swayed by "shy Tories".
Ben Page, the pollster's chief executive, was seeking to explain why his final eve of election poll overstated the number of Labour voters by almost three million. The number of votes for Labour implied by his final poll was 12.2 million but only 9.3 million turned out to vote. The same poll implied that there would be 12.5 million Tory votes; 11.3 million turned out."
Laziness? Or the registration issue? The % turnout figure was slightly up on 2010 (66 vs 65) so if the number of votes went down and the % remains the same then there is a good likelihood that the registered number was down too. (Obviously distribution will affect it too).
Was it individual registration wot won it? Anyone have a spreadsheet of the 2010 registered voters vs 2015 registered voters by constituency?
Just watched the rescue of boat people by the Bulwark..very professional..very British..very Navy...Well done..Those poor sods looked like they had just won the lottery .
They have
Doesn't the Nasty Party want to send them back?
There are two policies that make sense:
- Open the borders and let everyone in. That way there would be no market for the people who exploit asylum seekers in rickety boats.
- Send them back. If asylum seekers knew that attempting to get themselves smuggled in would probably lead to either death or return to their country of origin it is likely that the number of boat people would drop dramatically (as has been seen in Australia).
The second policy seems heartless but there is no appetite for the first which leaves us with a policy that is the worst of all worlds. Asylum seekers know they can't just turn up and gain entry so they pay large sums of money to people who promise to smuggle them in. They know that if they survive they will probably be allowed to enter the EU so many will be prepared to take the risk. So our current policy is directly responsible for asylum seekers drowning in my view.
There are many Eritreans now. Their government is off the radar but makes North Korea seem sane.
Balls is on now .... even if exit poll is right coalition majority is entirely wiped out.... cameron is not going to be able to get the numbers for a queens speech....
mood on the doorstep here in Morley has been very good indeed, the Conservative campaign has been desultory and UKIP non-existent.
Just watched the rescue of boat people by the Bulwark..very professional..very British..very Navy...Well done..Those poor sods looked like they had just won the lottery .
They have
Doesn't the Nasty Party want to send them back?
There are two policies that make sense:
- Open the borders and let everyone in. That way there would be no market for the people who exploit asylum seekers in rickety boats.
- Send them back. If asylum seekers knew that attempting to get themselves smuggled in would probably lead to either death or return to their country of origin it is likely that the number of boat people would drop dramatically (as has been seen in Australia).
The second policy seems heartless but there is no appetite for the first which leaves us with a policy that is the worst of all worlds. Asylum seekers know they can't just turn up and gain entry so they pay large sums of money to people who promise to smuggle them in. They know that if they survive they will probably be allowed to enter the EU so many will be prepared to take the risk. So our current policy is directly responsible for asylum seekers drowning in my view.
Not to mention that many of them are not asylum seekers, certainly within the meaning of the relevant Convention. Since they aren't they should be sent back - either to their country of origin or the place from which they departed - and they can apply to enter based on the normal criteria.
Just to say that I'm leaving this blog. It's become a hang-out place for right-wing loons and fruitcakes (there are a few sensible right-wing posters on here but they are the exception rather than the rule). There is simply no balance here...
Balls is on now .... even if exit poll is right coalition majority is entirely wiped out.... cameron is not going to be able to get the numbers for a queens speech....
mood on the doorstep here in Morley has been very good indeed, the Conservative campaign has been desultory and UKIP non-existent.
Just to say that I'm leaving this blog. It's become a hang-out place for right-wing loons and fruitcakes (there are a few sensible right-wing posters on here but they are the exception rather than the rule). There is simply no balance here...
Bye!
The site does have a right-wing bias but if you leave, it will make the problem worse. Be patient and the left will see better days and maybe then more left wing posters will post here
Just to say that I'm leaving this blog. It's become a hang-out place for right-wing loons and fruitcakes (there are a few sensible right-wing posters on here but they are the exception rather than the rule). There is simply no balance here...
Bye!
The trouble is, you leaving makes it worse. This site definitely is a Tory-haven, but the more lefties that join, the more balance we can have to the debate
Just to say that I'm leaving this blog. It's become a hang-out place for right-wing loons and fruitcakes (there are a few sensible right-wing posters on here but they are the exception rather than the rule). There is simply no balance here...
Bye!
The balance of commentators on this site varies a lot over time. It was not so long ago when it felt dominated by the likes of tim, IoS, BenM etc... on the left. I doubt the Tory domination will survive more than a month or so.
Just to say that I'm leaving this blog. It's become a hang-out place for right-wing loons and fruitcakes (there are a few sensible right-wing posters on here but they are the exception rather than the rule). There is simply no balance here...
Bye!
The site does have a right-wing bias but if you leave, it will make the problem worse. Be patient and the left will see better days and maybe then more left wing posters will post here
It would be instructive to have a poll of posters to see the party split based on last week's vote. Someone clever could then weight the scores by frequency of postings to get an adjusted result.
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Why don't you stay and argue your points of view? Makes it a lot more enjoyable for all. I think the likes of Southam Observer and AntiFrank are well respected on here, because they do exactly that.
For a while Jonathan and HenryMason were doing regular articles and they worth always worth a read.
I switched on the TV to see Peter Bone saying it was essential to get out of the human rights act then right on cue Theresa May says we have to send the drowning boat people back......
Before the end of the summer we'll have beggars on every street corner and cardboard boxes in every doorway filled with the homeless. Thatcher is back and big time.
Those of us who wished the Lib Dems ill owe them a big apology. They were the only thing standing between the last government and barbarism.
Re BBC coverage - the OB from John Curtice from whatever polling station he was at sounds stunned, and saying that there's no other way to interpret the numbers they're gathering.
He sounds WTF. I'd love to read an article from him about the experience of gathering data so at variance with the polls.
Just noticed an interesting comparison between two seats in Bristol.
In the mostly extremely posh Bristol West there was a swing of nearly 20% to Labour. In the most working-class seat in the city, Bristol South — which was the only Labour seat in the south-west of England in 1983 and 1987, there was a small swing of 0.76% from Labour to the Tories.
"Ed Miliband lost the election because of "lazy Labour" supporters who failed to vote, according to Ipsos Mori, undermining the theory that predictions were swayed by "shy Tories".
Ben Page, the pollster's chief executive, was seeking to explain why his final eve of election poll overstated the number of Labour voters by almost three million. The number of votes for Labour implied by his final poll was 12.2 million but only 9.3 million turned out to vote. The same poll implied that there would be 12.5 million Tory votes; 11.3 million turned out."
Laziness? Or the registration issue? The % turnout figure was slightly up on 2010 (66 vs 65) so if the number of votes went down and the % remains the same then there is a good likelihood that the registered number was down too. (Obviously distribution will affect it too).
Was it individual registration wot won it? Anyone have a spreadsheet of the 2010 registered voters vs 2015 registered voters by constituency?
I've got to say Fox, you brought up the registration issue throughout the campaign, and I found it (and still find it) an extremely compelling argument to explain the discrepancy between polls and voting.
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Bye!
I hope you change your mind soon. You will be missed.
Just to say that I'm leaving this blog. It's become a hang-out place for right-wing loons and fruitcakes (there are a few sensible right-wing posters on here but they are the exception rather than the rule). There is simply no balance here...
Bye!
Might I suggest whilst we blues engorge on reliving the tv and radio coverage of election night, you instead return to the halcyon election day threads on PB and you'll feel right at home.
I switched on the TV to see Peter Bone saying it was essential to get out of the human rights act then right on cue Theresa May says we have to send the drowning boat people back......
Before the end of the summer we'll have beggars on every street corner and cardboard boxes in every doorway filled with the homeless. Thatcher is back and big time.
Those of us who wished the Lib Dems ill owe them a big apology. They were the only thing standing between the last government and barbarism.
Roger- the streets of homeless will arrive shortly to every city after the welfare cuts to the under 25's bite. I remember the 80's well. And to come.... the human rights act, the threats to the BBC by the swivel eyed, UK marginalised by Europe, Tory infighting and weak governance, the rich getting richer and the poor, poorer, rampant ideological privatisation; this is going to be a tough five years for the UK. You and I will be fine, we don't need Labour, but I rather like living in a compassionate country.
I'm still annoyed with Ed for putting his ego, and ambition beyond the utilitarian value to keep the Tories out.
I switched on the TV to see Peter Bone saying it was essential to get out of the human rights act then right on cue Theresa May says we have to send the drowning boat people back......
Before the end of the summer we'll have beggars on every street corner and cardboard boxes in every doorway filled with the homeless. Thatcher is back and big time.
Those of us who wished the Lib Dems ill owe them a big apology. They were the only thing standing between the last government and barbarism.
Roger- the streets of homeless will arrive shortly to every city after the welfare cuts to the under 25's bite. I remember the 80's well. And to come.... the human rights act, the threats to the BBC by the swivel eyed, UK marginalised by Europe, Tory infighting and weak governance, the rich getting richer and the poor, poorer, rampant ideological privatisation; this is going to be a tough five years for the UK. You and I will be fine, we don't need Labour, but I rather like living in a compassionate country.
I'm still annoyed with Ed for putting his ego, and ambition beyond the utilitarian value to keep the Tories out.
Tyson , do you actually live in this country? I thought you lived in Italy where they give migrants a train ticket to Berlin.
Evening all! Reading through the many comments and articles on the UKIP/Farage/Carswell row over the Short money.
I think Carswell's point is that is he is the de facto leader of the party in the Commons, therefore he is the only person that can be held accountable to Parliament for the money, therefore he should be signing off on how it is spent.
If I were accountable as he thinks he is, I would have the same attitude. Maybe others, used to other expenses regimes elsewhere, may have a different attitude to these sorts of things?
I say fair play to him. I disagreed with his defection, but he is doing his best to be an upstanding Parliamentarian - despite his new party.
Just to say that I'm leaving this blog. It's become a hang-out place for right-wing loons and fruitcakes (there are a few sensible right-wing posters on here but they are the exception rather than the rule). There is simply no balance here...
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That's pretty ridiculous if I may say so. Do you not expect right wing 'loons' to temporarily be in the ascendancy after an unexpected win? Key word, 'temporarily'.
I switched on the TV to see Peter Bone saying it was essential to get out of the human rights act then right on cue Theresa May says we have to send the drowning boat people back......
Before the end of the summer we'll have beggars on every street corner and cardboard boxes in every doorway filled with the homeless. Thatcher is back and big time.
Those of us who wished the Lib Dems ill owe them a big apology. They were the only thing standing between the last government and barbarism.
Roger- the streets of homeless will arrive shortly to every city after the welfare cuts to the under 25's bite. I remember the 80's well. And to come.... the human rights act, the threats to the BBC by the swivel eyed, UK marginalised by Europe, Tory infighting and weak governance, the rich getting richer and the poor, poorer, rampant ideological privatisation; this is going to be a tough five years for the UK. You and I will be fine, we don't need Labour, but I rather like living in a compassionate country.
I'm still annoyed with Ed for putting his ego, and ambition beyond the utilitarian value to keep the Tories out.
Tyson , do you actually live in this country? I thought you lived in Italy where they give migrants a train ticket to Berlin.
OK- I live in Italy, but that doesn't mean to say I do not care about the UK.
By the way the Tories approach to the boat migrants is disgusting and vile and makes me ashamed of my country. It makes me feel sick to the pit of my stomach. Day 6 of the Tories. Scum is frankly too good a word for this bunch of uncaring degenerates. Only another 4 years and 359 days to go and counting....
I switched on the TV to see Peter Bone saying it was essential to get out of the human rights act then right on cue Theresa May says we have to send the drowning boat people back......
Before the end of the summer we'll have beggars on every street corner and cardboard boxes in every doorway filled with the homeless. Thatcher is back and big time.
Those of us who wished the Lib Dems ill owe them a big apology. They were the only thing standing between the last government and barbarism.
There is nothing barbarous about repealing the Human Rights Act 1998. In fact, there was a great deal more civil and political liberty in many areas before the Act was passed. This country did not become "civilised" on 2 October 2000 when the said Act came into force.
Just to say that I'm leaving this blog. It's become a hang-out place for right-wing loons and fruitcakes (there are a few sensible right-wing posters on here but they are the exception rather than the rule). There is simply no balance here...
Bye!
I hope you change your mind soon. You will be missed.
I'm sure he'll be back for the run up to the EU referendum when the Eurosceptic Tories and UKIP go to war with the rest of the Tory party and most of the left. I wonder how many Eurosceptic Tories there are after this current intake?
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But that doesn't make the fact that this has blown up in the Guardian's face any less delicious.
Two bad points stuck out:
1) Graphically impressive but ridiculously overblown 'road to Downing Street' nonsense with Vine. Sky used a bar chart, to better effect.
2) Sophie Raworth is excellent. Sticking her outside with an unnecessarily enormous map of hexagonal tiles to spend the night and early morning filling in is not.
This looks interesting, has Miranda Green and Owen Jones. I want to watch Owen Jones die live on air.
Has anyone found C4's entire coverage? It's not on 4OD.
Obviously the learned Mrs Clooney didn't find a magic solution.....
Labour majorities reduced
Barrow and Furness from 11.8 to 1.8%
Stoke South from 10.4 to 6.5%
Bishop Auckland from 12.7 to 8.9%
Coventry NW from 13.5% to 10%
Copeland from 9 to 6.4%
Halifax from 3.4% to 1%
Harrow West from 6.8 to 4.7%
Newcastle under Lyme from 3.6 to 1.5%
Clwyd South from 8.2 to 6.9%
Derbyshire NE from 5.2 to 3.9%
Mansfield from 12.4 to 11.3%
Coventry South from 8.4 to 7.3%
Bridgend from 5.9 to 4.9%
Birmingham Norhfield from 6.7 to 5.9%
Westminster North from 5.4 to 5%
Darlington from 7.9 to 7.7%
Newport West from 8.9 to 8.7%
+ the seats lost
where it increased
York Central from 13.9 to 14.1%
Tooting from 5 to 5.3%
Bristol East from 8.3 to 8.6%
Workington from 11.7 to 12.2%
Bolton NE from 9.4 to 10.1%
Alyn and Deeside from 7.3 to 8.1%
Scunthorpe from 6.9 to 8.5%
Delyn from 6.1 to 7.8%
Hampstead and KIlburn from 0.1 to 2.1%
Eltham from 4 to 6.2%
Gedling from 3.9 to 6.2%
Wakefield from 3.6 to 6.1%
Walsall North from 2.7 to 5.3%
Blackpool South from 5.3 to 8%
Hyndburn from 7.2 to 10.3%
Southampton Test from 5.5 to 8.7%
Batley and Spen fro 8.6 to 12%
Birmingham Edgbaston from 3.1 to 6.6%
Chorley from 5.2 to 8.8%
Bury South from 6.8 to 10.4%
Slough from 11.6 to 15.2%
Ellesmere from 9.8 to 13.4%
Worsley and Eccles South from 10.4 to 14.1%
Cardiff West from 11.6 to 15.5%
Tynemouth from 10.9 to 15.4%
Bradford South from 12.2 to 17.2
Cardiff South from 10.6 to 16%
Leeds NE from 9.6 to 15%
Birmingham Erdington from 9.2 to 14.8
Hammersmith from 7.5% to 13.6%
Derby South from 14.9 to 21.6
Huddersfield from 11 to 18.1
Penistone from 6.5 to 14.3
Lancashire West from 9 to 16.8%
Luton South from 5.5 to 13.5%
Extere from 5.2 to 13.3%
Erith and Thamesmead from 13.4 to 22.4%
Wolverhampton NE from 7.1 to 16.2
Dudley North from 1.7 to 11.0
Stalybridge and Hyde from 6.7 to 16.3
Leicester West from 11.2 to 20.9
Wirral South from 1.3 to 11.0
Walsall South from 4.3 to 14.4
Birmingham Selly Oak from 7.5 to 18.6
Great Grimsby from 2.2 to 13.5
Nottingham South from 4.3 to 16.0
Don Valley from 8.3 to 20.9
Feltham and Heston from 9.6 to 23.2
Sefton Central from 8 to 24.2
Poplar and Limehouse from 12.9 to 33.2
"barely 48 hours after receiving a 150-page dossier from Amal Clooney and fellow leading human rights lawyers at London’s Doughty Street chambers exhorting the Greek government to pursue legal channels immediately. The report, outlining the options Athens faced in its decades-long struggle to win back the fifth century BC carvings, described a “now or never” opportunity for Greece and advised it to take the British Museum to the international court of justice.
“The British adhere to international law,” said Clooney who co-authored the report with Geoffrey Robertson and Norman Palmer, British QCs regarded as pre-eminent experts in cultural restitution. “The Greek government has never taken advantage of this Achilles heel. You must take legal action now or you may lose the opportunity to do so due to future legal obstacles.”"
LOL - "You must take legal action now...."
150 page counsel's opinion - blimey, what did that cost the bankrupt nation?!
It obviously didn't convince enough if the Greeks have binned the advice after less than 48 hours consideration!
Cut off date should be last Thursday.
Incidentally, I was in Swindon yesterday but I didn't see Chuka.
The Beeb just offered chattering lefties whilst a series of Tory holds and gains flashed up with barely any comment. By 3am I had mostly settled on ITV, forays to Sky and back to the Beeb after something big. Plus of course monitoring very closely what was happening here and on the BBC website.
I couldn't stop laughing....
That is straight 100% fear of the SNP and what it could mean for Trident jobs in the area.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/video/2015/may/13/andy-burnham-announces-his-candidacy-for-labour-leadership-video
Mind you if they choose Yvette = genius! Kerching.
It is also worth remembering some of the criticisms of my constituency polls that were made before the election. By not naming candidates, I was told, I was understating the importance of incumbency and therefore seriously underestimating the number of Lib Dem MPs who would be re-elected. So much for that.
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2015/05/reflections-on-the-election-polls-and-creating-a-conservative-party-people-need-not-be-shy-about-supporting/?utm_source=Lord+Ashcroft+Polls&utm_campaign=69d8089e21-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_b70c7aec0a-69d8089e21-71634673
http://liberalconspiracy.org/2012/04/13/meet-the-official-tory-troll-richolden/
:-)
They got a bit lost about 5am and missed a few - don't think they covered Galloway or maybe I had a loo-break and missed it.
"Ed Miliband lost the election because of "lazy Labour" supporters who failed to vote, according to Ipsos Mori, undermining the theory that predictions were swayed by "shy Tories".
Ben Page, the pollster's chief executive, was seeking to explain why his final eve of election poll overstated the number of Labour voters by almost three million. The number of votes for Labour implied by his final poll was 12.2 million but only 9.3 million turned out to vote. The same poll implied that there would be 12.5 million Tory votes; 11.3 million turned out."
Anyone know what BBC Parliament are showing at the next BH?
Not lived there since 1980, so can't comment on what has changed.
http://www.itv.com/news/2015-05-07/watch-itv-news-election-night-live/
- Open the borders and let everyone in. That way there would be no market for the people who exploit asylum seekers in rickety boats.
- Send them back. If asylum seekers knew that attempting to get themselves smuggled in would probably lead to either death or return to their country of origin it is likely that the number of boat people would drop dramatically (as has been seen in Australia).
The second policy seems heartless but there is no appetite for the first which leaves us with a policy that is the worst of all worlds. Asylum seekers know they can't just turn up and gain entry so they pay large sums of money to people who promise to smuggle them in. They know that if they survive they will probably be allowed to enter the EU so many will be prepared to take the risk. So our current policy is directly responsible for asylum seekers drowning in my view.
Was it individual registration wot won it? Anyone have a spreadsheet of the 2010 registered voters vs 2015 registered voters by constituency?
mood on the doorstep here in Morley has been very good indeed, the Conservative campaign has been desultory and UKIP non-existent.
There are no easy choices here.
https://twitter.com/stephenkb/status/598520426269175808
Just to say that I'm leaving this blog. It's become a hang-out place for right-wing loons and fruitcakes (there are a few sensible right-wing posters on here but they are the exception rather than the rule). There is simply no balance here...
Bye!
The presenters are sounding so upbeat - Pienaar "exit polls have been pretty accurate in the past..." it's 21:58
50-1 on Betfair.
For a while Jonathan and HenryMason were doing regular articles and they worth always worth a read.
I mentioned watching BBC Parliament and old GEs on Bank Holidays to someone a while ago and they looked at me very strangely.
I think they thought I was kidding...
Before the end of the summer we'll have beggars on every street corner and cardboard boxes in every doorway filled with the homeless. Thatcher is back and big time.
Those of us who wished the Lib Dems ill owe them a big apology. They were the only thing standing between the last government and barbarism.
He sounds WTF. I'd love to read an article from him about the experience of gathering data so at variance with the polls.
In the mostly extremely posh Bristol West there was a swing of nearly 20% to Labour. In the most working-class seat in the city, Bristol South — which was the only Labour seat in the south-west of England in 1983 and 1987, there was a small swing of 0.76% from Labour to the Tories.
And to come.... the human rights act, the threats to the BBC by the swivel eyed, UK marginalised by Europe, Tory infighting and weak governance, the rich getting richer and the poor, poorer, rampant ideological privatisation; this is going to be a tough five years for the UK. You and I will be fine, we don't need Labour, but I rather like living in a compassionate country.
I'm still annoyed with Ed for putting his ego, and ambition beyond the utilitarian value to keep the Tories out.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/11600116/John-Majors-1996-cabinet-Where-are-they-now.html?frame=3301234
Reading through the many comments and articles on the UKIP/Farage/Carswell row over the Short money.
I think Carswell's point is that is he is the de facto leader of the party in the Commons, therefore he is the only person that can be held accountable to Parliament for the money, therefore he should be signing off on how it is spent.
If I were accountable as he thinks he is, I would have the same attitude. Maybe others, used to other expenses regimes elsewhere, may have a different attitude to these sorts of things?
I say fair play to him. I disagreed with his defection, but he is doing his best to be an upstanding Parliamentarian - despite his new party.
By the way the Tories approach to the boat migrants is disgusting and vile and makes me ashamed of my country. It makes me feel sick to the pit of my stomach. Day 6 of the Tories. Scum is frankly too good a word for this bunch of uncaring degenerates. Only another 4 years and 359 days to go and counting....